Why Don't Sax Mutes Work? Plus, the bizarre mute that actually... works!

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  • Do you want to practice sax silently, without disturbing others? Perhaps you've tried a saxophone mute! But, why don't these mutes work? Find out why, and which strange mute actually does!
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    Why don't sax mutes work?
    If you live in an apartment building, with housemates, or with family in close proximity, practicing without disturbing others has to be a major consideration for a saxophonist.
    Looking on Amazon, eBay or AliExpress can turn up hundreds of different options for sax mutes. But, as many people can attest, these mutes rarely work as intended.
    In this video we'll cover the following topics:
    - The 3 different types of mutes available
    - How these mutes are INTENDED to work
    - Why they don't work as advertised
    - The mysterious 4th mute which may hold the answer!
    - Other suggestions for lowering your saxophone volume so you don't disturb others.
    Questions about anything in this video? Please leave them in the comments section below!
    If you enjoyed the video, please hit the 'thumbs up' button and subscribe to SaxTuition CZcams channel for more great saxophone content.
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Komentáře • 66

  • @SaxTuition
    @SaxTuition  Před rokem +2

    If only the saxophone didn't have so many holes! (Just kidding...) If you're interested in learning the saxophone from scratch (and you don't mind annoying the neighbors), check out the SaxTuition Beginner Series: www.saxtuition.com/beginner-series

  • @bossnassbigbass
    @bossnassbigbass Před 4 lety +25

    Hi, you have helped me start playing the saxophone. Your voice always makes me smile. Thank you

    • @SaxTuition
      @SaxTuition  Před 4 lety +1

      Thanks so much mate! So glad to hear the channel has helped you :)

  • @ChrisF_1982
    @ChrisF_1982 Před 2 lety +17

    I'm at night owl, and could practice more if noise were not an issue.

  • @hobbesthebrainslug12
    @hobbesthebrainslug12 Před 3 lety +10

    I'm glad I didn't waste my money on one of those mutes

  • @danielbaldi320
    @danielbaldi320 Před 2 lety +8

    The "window" method is the one I've been using for the past 30 years :P

  • @SaxTuition
    @SaxTuition  Před 2 lety +1

    Want more proof that sax mutes don't work? 😬 Check out this CZcams short! czcams.com/users/shorts10wWzhg_TIE

  • @femalehobbitwithhairyfeet

    The arm hole case thing is horrible for a beginner as you can't see the instrument and you can't see the keys. This sucks. Really thought there was an answer to this. Loved the video either way

  • @smokinjoe4709
    @smokinjoe4709 Před 4 lety +8

    You have a great sense of humor... thanks for all you do.

  • @SeviNG
    @SeviNG Před 3 lety +7

    How about playing under your covers and duvet?

  • @gabrielbrouillard9832
    @gabrielbrouillard9832 Před 3 lety +5

    This super helpful i was really close too buy one thanks

  • @vivianastridge2167
    @vivianastridge2167 Před 3 lety +13

    As stated none of the trumpet type mutes work. I was faced with the problem of disturbing others and not being able to purchase that massive box type I was forced to devise my own mute. I found that a tiny bottle washer brush cut off either at the small end or the large end to suit and inserted either into the mouthpiece or the end of the neck. It will be noted that some notes are lowered in pitch but this may be corrected by using a harder reed. This type mute does most certainly prove totally effective and any degree of muting may be obtained by cutting the brush till desired muting effect is obtained.

    • @SZebS
      @SZebS Před 3 lety

      That's what i was thinking! You're esaentially palm-muting your sax

  • @__Dany
    @__Dany Před 4 lety +20

    Interesting argument Jeremy, since I started practicing about 2 months ago my actual issue now is making too much noise.
    Only have an hour frame to play each day, but still, sometimes it affects my progress because I unconsciously think I'm being too loud
    therefore try to play quieter but in the end I'll either break the tone or just lose the note.
    This is why I just bought the Roland Aerophone. What do you think about it?

    • @SaxTuition
      @SaxTuition  Před 4 lety +5

      Hey AnyDany, yeah it really is a shame if you have to limit your volume during practice because it can affect your tone production a lot, especially when you're just starting out!
      I love everything I've seen about the Roland Aerophone so far, it looks like it fits the saxophone concept much better than any other electronic sax - particularly the EWI. I think it could be a great tool for practicing your fingerings and rhythms etc, although it would be impossible to develop a good concept of tone or embouchure without an opportunity to play on a real sax.
      As long as you have the ability to practice on a real sax from time to time, I think it could be a very useful tool for practice :)

    • @voiciray
      @voiciray Před měsícem

      @@SaxTuitioncould you do a review on the EMEO, please?

  • @MrSerbianOrthodox
    @MrSerbianOrthodox Před 9 měsíci +1

    No demo??

  • @owencooper1360
    @owencooper1360 Před rokem

    Great explanation!

  • @YaNeK92
    @YaNeK92 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Looks like the only solution is to drive out far away into a forest, bush or beach and start practicing away from civilization 😂👌🏼

  • @edmcwv
    @edmcwv Před rokem

    I wish found your channel before I bought a mute from Amazon. 😢😢😢

  • @Honyasu
    @Honyasu Před 3 lety +3

    The case looks like 2077 version of Sax.

  • @keithwallis7170
    @keithwallis7170 Před 9 měsíci

    Thank you for the video on mutes. I was just looking at buying one myself. What you said about mutes on the mouth of the horn not working due to all the tone holes makes perfect sense. The mute cases however look like a nightmare for a beginner who is not yet able to play by feel. As the sound originates in the mouthpiece, you might think that some sort of suppressor inserted into the crook of the sax or on the outlet of the mouthpiece itself, would be effective. I've seen people using techniques on duck calls (and other similar devices) to modulate the outputs of those devices. I'm just wondering if applying that to a sax mouthpiece wouldn't do the job. The sound would be affected, of course, but that's the intent. Maybe I'll do a little experimenting. What do you think?

  • @Whol3NothaL3v3l
    @Whol3NothaL3v3l Před rokem

    This is the first time I've been to this channel, and already it seems like Jeremy is a nice, fun person lol. Thank you for acknowledging the mutes really don't work. I wish the sellers would stop lying. Also, I refuse to play my saxophone through a casket with armholes 😂😂😂😂. So I guess I just have to free ball it🤷🏾‍♀️

  • @jaynecenturion
    @jaynecenturion Před 2 lety +1

    I feel like the main issue is not that mutes don’t work. It’s a misunderstanding of the purpose of a mute. Even trom & trumpet mutes are not for silencing the instrument it’s for manipulating the type of sound you produce like the wah sound of a jazz trumpet. That’s achieved using a mute and has nothing to do with ‘silencing’ the instrument. What is like to know more about is the manipulation using a mute.

    • @SaxTuition
      @SaxTuition  Před 2 lety +1

      Hey Jayne! Interesting point, however even mutes that are designed for manipulating the sound unfortunately won’t work on a saxophone due to its design.

    • @jaynecenturion
      @jaynecenturion Před 2 lety

      @@SaxTuition thanks and this is what I’m trying to get to the bottom of. Every resource seems to be about volume rather than the traditional use. I’ve been playing a lot of jazz and swing but i’m playing trumpet parts so I’m trying to figure out how I might replicate some
      of those muted and wah techniques on sax. You’re right even traditional looking mutes remade for sax don’t appear to be providing people the same results as we see in a true valve brass instrument.

  • @mrcrowleyoz
    @mrcrowleyoz Před 4 měsíci

    That case is horrible. It makes fingers humid, you can’t hear your sound properly, it’s awkward to hold, and it limits your ability have proper form.

  • @kablammy7
    @kablammy7 Před 3 lety +1

    I made a mouthpiece silencer from a large vitamin bottle - carved out the front flap opening a little and the mouthpiece fits snug - put a wash cloth in and a hole in the bottom and it works great - costs ? $ 0

    • @kablammy7
      @kablammy7 Před 3 lety

      I think it reduces the volume at least by half . You cannot tell by the video, I guess because the phone recording volume is maxed out . Maybe if I put the phone farther away during the sound test it would be apparent . However, you can hear the sound resonate in the room at the end of the first test . In the second test, you can tell there is no resounding resonance present .
      Here is a video showing what I have .
      czcams.com/video/yHIAxdTOvk8/video.html
      Maybe I will try making a saxophone cover-all silencer with a cardboard box and some shredded newspaper ...

  • @katemcg5833
    @katemcg5833 Před 3 lety +5

    I had one of the mutes you stick your hands into. It didn’t mute the sound enough. My neighbors told me they still heard me playing.

    • @SaxTuition
      @SaxTuition  Před 3 lety +3

      That’s a shame Kate, thanks for the feedback, I’m sure people will find that useful 👍 Do you remember the brand you had?

  • @Francois_Dupont
    @Francois_Dupont Před 4 lety +2

    i got sensible front top teeth... bought a sax and i dont know what to do now.
    i played for 3days and made very good progress, but i feel pain in those teeth. is there a solution?

    • @SaxTuition
      @SaxTuition  Před 4 lety +3

      Hey Francois, I think what will really help you is to buy a mouthpiece patch, which is basically a rubber cushion that goes on top of your mouthpiece. I made a video about them over here: czcams.com/video/aSd2wqrpAlI/video.html
      They can also help to set your embouchure correctly and to avoid the mouthpiece sliding around in your mouth. Hope that helps!

    • @Francois_Dupont
      @Francois_Dupont Před 4 lety +1

      @@SaxTuition thank you very much.

  • @aparajit2350
    @aparajit2350 Před 4 lety +2

    Hi Jeremy, I live in India and as a classical player I wanna buy the d'addario reserve reeds .
    It's costing 37 $ according to usa. is it overpriced?

    • @SaxTuition
      @SaxTuition  Před 4 lety +1

      Hi Aparajit, that sounds about right! That's actually quite a good price, as they are expensive reeds.

  • @kurtmampaey1208
    @kurtmampaey1208 Před 4 měsíci

    I bought ear protection/noise protection for all my neighbors, it was much cheaper

  • @45zapatero
    @45zapatero Před 2 lety

    A other option : electronic wind instrument. The roland aerophone or yamaha yds 150.

    • @katiestevenson6232
      @katiestevenson6232 Před rokem

      That would help if all you need to practice is the fingering, but it won't help with practicing breath control or projection.

  • @nancyperez8081
    @nancyperez8081 Před 3 lety

    The sounds comes out from the different holes, at least (the mute) it's so cheap I can just throw it away 😂

  • @Semonyacob
    @Semonyacob Před 4 lety +1

    SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME THE SONG AT THE END IVE BEEN LOOKING FOR IT

    • @SaxTuition
      @SaxTuition  Před 4 lety +1

      Hi Simon! It’s actually a royalty free track included with the Apple sound library for GarageBand / Final Cut Pro etc.. I believe it’s called 44th Street 😊

  • @user-theodor-agathos
    @user-theodor-agathos Před 4 lety +6

    You get a guitar soft case. Two holes for your hands, and you cut the uper part for the neck.
    For an alto sax a case from a tele or strat is ok.
    For a tenor you will need a case for a semihollow (335).
    You will also find enough place for sound absorbing material.
    Good luck.

    • @SaxTuition
      @SaxTuition  Před 4 lety +5

      Haha I don’t recommend this 😂

  • @dzunku1
    @dzunku1 Před 2 lety

    Can't this bizarre mute work as an enclosure with all the holes closed? It should have enough room to store removed neck and mouth piece somewhere inside.

  • @user-xu4vs6ni3p
    @user-xu4vs6ni3p Před rokem

    Maybe people have already invented something mute for soprano saxophone ?

  • @lourengaming5524
    @lourengaming5524 Před 3 lety +1

    the bizarre mute that actually works, is play with no mute at all

    • @myfyp2
      @myfyp2 Před 3 lety

      Yeah, it is basically a portable version of the soundproofed walk in closet.

  • @anchorboy66
    @anchorboy66 Před 9 měsíci

    Practice in the closet …the clothes soak up the sound

  • @yaoren05
    @yaoren05 Před 4 lety

    What if putting mouthpiece brush inside the neck??

    • @SaxTuition
      @SaxTuition  Před 4 lety +3

      No don't do that! It might get stuck up there...

  • @flrn84791
    @flrn84791 Před rokem

    It's expensive, it's inconvenient... and it's not available for baritone 😂

  • @dogeoftheyear1113
    @dogeoftheyear1113 Před rokem

    british seth macfarlane

  • @AGC828
    @AGC828 Před rokem

    THe sax case. The one you mentioned is a copy of the "original" brand --forgot the brand name. :) But acccording to other reviewers it DOES work. Plus that model has a headphone jack. So I'm guessing you can go near "silent...to others".
    In the end.....the reality is there are virtually no instruments we can play at home wtihout being the annoying family member or neighbour. :) I have a neiighbor who praceds his (or her?) sax in the park. :) Not often so I guess he (or she) still got complaints as the park is flanked by condo's. :) The sound is still loud "enough". heh...though not as loud as if he or she played in their condo unit or condo parking garage.... you need to be able to afford to build a "recording studio type room" in your home. :...for ALL instruments except a "hyprid/digital piano" ---you can plug headphones into it and go "silent" (to others around you). ...and they approximate the soun from other pianos near identically ..elctronic or acoustic.
    Sax and the case....I elieve works

    • @SaxTuition
      @SaxTuition  Před rokem

      Hey Anderson - absolutely, the mutes that cover your entire saxophone (look like a giant case) are the mutes that DO work. I hope I made that clear enough in the video :)
      The mutes that I was referring to that don't work are basically anything that involves placing something over or down your bell. These are all over eBay and Amazon and I didn't want anyone to get fooled into thinking they can actually play softer this way. Thanks for watching!

  • @lucaaccardifonseca1367

    Are you reading?

  • @qwertz3650
    @qwertz3650 Před 3 lety

    Good video bro, so far the only one of your channel that I have seen. Maybe I would recommend you to speak a little faster in the moments that you do not speak about technical things or that require a lot of attention, since like me, perhaps there will be a lot that only look for the answer rather than the justification or """Filling""". Even so I emphasize, good video.

    • @sora8537
      @sora8537 Před 2 lety +1

    • @Whol3NothaL3v3l
      @Whol3NothaL3v3l Před rokem

      You can also skip ahead. The video wasn't made for you personally. Plus CZcams has way too many alternatives for you to find what you like, without asking someone to change their personal style to accommodate people "like you". And then there would be complaints from people who like his current way of doing things, if he changes to accommodate people like you.

    • @qwertz3650
      @qwertz3650 Před rokem

      @@Whol3NothaL3v3l it's just feedback, ty for ur feedback tho

  • @brightbillionz6465
    @brightbillionz6465 Před 3 lety

    Ur fada. Play something u just Sidon der dey talk talk 🥺

  • @robertgreen3702
    @robertgreen3702 Před 11 měsíci

    Pease investigste the Whisper Room. I saw an advert in DOWNBEAT magazine sone years ago