He was the hardest man in the business to work for. A friend of mine drove his equipment truck for a couple years. Sometimes he was allowed to sit in on their rehearsals. He was always in awe.
@@absolutelypositively my wife thinks i'm an angel and if you met me on the street you would think that is a great guy. you wouldn't want to work for me though but if you did you would definitely know how to do the job right.
a conductor for life and art can banter around, genius comes to mind. Time loves a hero, sent here from heaven or mouthpiece from hell a Lowell George quote got a bit misty when Lowell play with Frank
For all his ego and genius, Zappa was a very self-defacing guy. His main desire was never fame and fortune but, as he said, rather to just be able to release material, mostly that which was an alternative to the majority of music out there. He certainly accomplished his goal. RIP brother .
+Synapsenkitzler - I have to agree. Every time I hear his music, it's like the Universe is being explained to me in the form of a musical journey. He's the Einstein of Music.
Honored to see Frank a few times back in the day. One show at the Boston Music Hall, he came out and signaled the band into song. He went over and picked up the SG from the guitar stand, hit two notes, which were out of tune, and waved his hand once horizontally without even looking at the band, and in a nano second there was complete silence. It seemed unprofessional at first, but after a minute or two of tuning, he re-signaled the band to restart the song, and Holy Cow, The next fifty minutes were pure magic! Thank you F.Z. for an educational lesson, and a wonderful show for a fledgling musician.
This is contemporary music.Music of the highest calibre performed through a band of great musicians. Classical music composed in the 70's,with contemporary and non contemporary instruments, the way it shoudl be.Zappa took the music of the twentieth century to the other side of the mirror.A place you don't want to leave once you are introduced to that world. Thanks to the amazing genius of Frank Zappa.
I was at Concert 88 in Dortmund and in Germany Zappa was a great Number . Zappa was the best Musikan. He was funny, i like the Musik from him.....Regards from Germany
@@kay61100 I performed in Dortmund in 1994 with the show tour Evita (percussionist)-I always enjoyed working in Germany, great beer, great food and interesting cool people.
Dear god that is amazing. I knew he was a great composer (obviously), but to be a great conductor and to just make something like that is amazing! Thanks for showing us this
Given the mastery Frank had over ALL musical genres, I believe he eclipsed his heroes Stravinsky & Varese. Miss ya Frank, R.I.P. You got your " own little piece of heaven " now, and you ain't here to go through the insanity we are . . .
i was 14, (1969), one of my first jobs, at a used furniture store in van nuys, ca. i went out to the loading dock, and sitting there, was the indian of the group. his wife was shopping inside. i knew who he was, sat down beside him, and shared an hour of cha-hortles! one of those memories i'll never forget.
I can see some dislike of FZ works as a conductor on comments here.. it takes hours and hours of rehearsal to be able to control a band like that, itll take some a lifetime to get it as good as FZ and company, believe it.. its not like hes some revolution or anything really new, but he definetely was one of the most sincere personas in music altogether
Tempo, dynamics, AND texture, phrasing, balance, blend, emotion, color, expression, articulation, line... there are LOTS more elements to conducting than simply tempo and dynamics! I am a professional conductor, friend, and that is why I wrote my original post. BTW, "what he did 'exceeded' conducting" was what you meant, right? Zappa was a very talented guy who had a fresh approach to music which I do respect. I simply take issue with that moniker "the best conductor".
It is certainly easy to see Edgard Varese's influence watching this video. If you are not familiar with this composer, I suggest the piece "Ionisation". One amazing concept Frank had was incorporating the audience into a piece. This would not only ensure uniqueness, but give the audience the feeling of being "inside" the piece.
I saw Frank Zappa conduct the L.A. Philharmonic one night at U.C.L.A. Not bad. He had the entire orchestra quacking and making fart noises and chanting and...well, ya had to be there. 1974 possibly.
Frank Zappa was an original and -truly unique rock'n'roll genuis. Irrelevant to modern media and Brilliant in his delivery of his own brand of music which of course -was zany and immediately great. He is missed and quite the legend.
Frank's conducting reminds me of Tim the Enchanter on the mountain top in MONTY PYTHON AND THE HOLY GRAIL, his gestures generating explosions here, there, wherever. Crazy genius!
The lesson to be learned from Frank's body of work is NOT a list of attributes to qualify him for geniushood, but rather, to open your mind to all of the possibilities that exist in musical expression that are ignored or not even thought of because of the rigidity that exists in the musical establishment, and Frankly, society as a whole. What is it's purpose ? - To delight, to surprise. it tells you nothing about human nature, that is not it's point. Frank's mind was very focused, no agitation.
thanks for that! :) I will show that to my ensemble students...although we still work on a rather simple medley of popular music tunes, this will hopefully put their minds on fire...or at least amuse them :D
George Duke is using a ring modulator on the Rhodes piano. Choral conductors in African-American churches use many of the same techniques, as their choirs are often singing spontaneous arrangements, or singing harmony parts assigned in realtime by the conductor. Thus, this Zappa conducting is as real as any other set of musical directions given in any number of different ensemble genres. Who is the talk-show host from the big-band and audience participation section, in the black and white footage? Performance art uses many of the same techniques. The danger for the avant-garde is that its non-standard uses of sound, image, and gesture can become codified, as Jackson Pollock's action paintings did. MBB
+Michael Ledford Negative! That's not Mike Douglas. Many years ago I bought fro 818-PUMPKIN, the video called Video From Hell. It is a compilation of filmed sequences with FZ music attached, and on it is this black and white (with the blue-ish hue placed over it) talk show interview in its entirely. It is identified as from Australia in 1973, so it must be in January of 1973, because that was when Frank first went to Australia. I sold the video a long time ago when I was scrapping for money and forgot the name of the talk show. But there you ago, not Mike Douglas.
Marc Ribe I still have baby snakes & video from hell , both on " honker " video , I'll have a run thru of the vhs & see who your talking about , of that ain't Mike Douglas it's his body double but I will have a peep at the video from hell & see who the guy your talking about is , I could be wrong but I don't think so :)
My friends and I from the Chicago 'burbs went to see Frank in concert 5 times, tripping every time. It was awesome. Uptown Theater 4 of the times, and once at a college auditorium where I was a mere 20 feet away from Frank and his body guard the whole time.....
Mak Muk Was Right mak muk f**k, Zappa is not relevant anymore. Have you seen how many people on CZcams are covering him. I think you are are not relevant and I should ignore you. But you are talking dirty about Zappa!
This is a first of the conductor side I have seen of this BEing. LOVED his musical creations and lyrics but his conductor- perfection must have been brutal. His signs are a conductors-sign-language of sorts. This vid creation is a fantastic side of this great I am thrilled to have introduced to me. ENJOY!!!!!! :-)
He was a genius. Although I'm sure he could give his bandmembers a VERY hard time when recording or rehearsing. As explained before, he was quite a perfectionist. But he COULD makes mistakes, while others weren't allowed too. I'm sure he was very demanding. Perhaps even to a degree us fans cant imagine. Thats a side of Frank we'll probably never know much about. Still, his demand of perfection and control in terms of music, created some of the most exceptional & beautifull art of the century
And you wonder where the inspiration for things like Stomp and Blue Man Group came from? All that AND real musical chops, always more chops, increasing over time. The man realized his dreams and made some of ours come true.
Like I said, if you like it, hoorah! I needed to say what I have just said, after many years of nodding and affirming to a few friends how cool this stuff is... I never find myself wanting to hear it. But they work hard, and are so CERTAIN they are geniuses; how can they be denied?
Frank was light years ahead of other producers and studio owners,Frank had the 1st fully digital recording studio in the world,for years the Utility Muffin Research Studios were the worlds most advanced studio ,Frank even made a presentation of an early version of I tunes where music buyers could download albums and single songs for a fee,the Zappa estate spent years in court against Apples I tunez.
This is what is know as musical concrete. The term is used when sounds via tape , are constructed and can be used to create the musical image to the listener. Zappa wanted to do that with live musicians.
fascinating. Zappa was the real deal as far as a avante-rock fusion composer and conductor goes. It's amusing that he conducted sometimes without a shirt and a cigarette going.
He was the hardest man in the business to work for. A friend of mine drove his equipment truck for a couple years. Sometimes he was allowed to sit in on their rehearsals. He was always in awe.
Lucky friend! I met Frank once outside of the musical environment. Very polite.
@@absolutelypositively my wife thinks i'm an angel and if you met me on the street you would think that is a great guy. you wouldn't want to work for me though but if you did you would definitely know how to do the job right.
Man he's like a wild child that created his own vocabulary that's so impressive.
That's free flowing creativity and musicality right there.
It’s money well spent - it’s a really damned liberating thing to watch.
Musicians were his instruments. ;)
a conductor for life and art can banter around, genius comes to mind. Time loves a hero, sent here from heaven or mouthpiece from hell a Lowell George quote got a bit misty when Lowell play with Frank
Humanity will never see anything like him again.
For all his ego and genius, Zappa was a very self-defacing guy. His main desire was never fame and fortune but, as he said, rather to just be able to release material, mostly that which was an alternative to the majority of music out there. He certainly accomplished his goal. RIP brother .
Zappa always said he mainly made records so that he could take them home and listen to them himself!
And cheating on his suffering poor wife
Jimmy Carl Black summed it up quite well when he said "we were the best band in the world"!
He Sure did!
Yeah, and you probably believe that, right?
lies all lies huh
Absolutely amazing. Zappa played the bands.
I can not imagine, someday there will be a better human being music, that will talk to me in those ways, the music of Frank Zappa does.
Mak Muk Check out: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flying_Spaghetti_Monster
*****
It sucks for you. LMFAO
Mak Muk Someone should present mak Muk a sweet candy. :-)
+Synapsenkitzler - I have to agree. Every time I hear his music, it's like the Universe is being explained to me in the form of a musical journey. He's the Einstein of Music.
What?
LMFAO
Honored to see Frank a few times back in the day. One show at the Boston Music Hall, he came out and signaled the band into song. He went over and picked up the SG from the guitar stand, hit two notes, which were out of tune, and waved his hand once horizontally without even looking at the band, and in a nano second there was complete silence. It seemed unprofessional at first, but after a minute or two of tuning, he re-signaled the band to restart the song, and Holy Cow, The next fifty minutes were pure magic! Thank you F.Z. for an educational lesson, and a wonderful show for a fledgling musician.
This is contemporary music.Music of the highest calibre performed through a band of great musicians. Classical music composed in the 70's,with contemporary and non contemporary instruments, the way it shoudl be.Zappa took the music of the twentieth century to the other side of the mirror.A place you don't want to leave once you are introduced to that world. Thanks to the amazing genius of Frank Zappa.
Frank: America needs you now more than ever -- send a reincarnation clone NOW please
hell no
His name is Ben Levin
Working on It with my cat rn hes not that musically talented ....neither am i
I was at Concert 88 in Dortmund and in Germany Zappa was a great Number . Zappa was the best Musikan. He was funny, i like the Musik from him.....Regards from Germany
@@kay61100 I performed in Dortmund in 1994 with the show tour Evita (percussionist)-I always enjoyed working in Germany, great beer, great food and interesting cool people.
Thanks for posting ... What an Absolubte Genius. RIP Frank ... Miss Ya!
Dear god that is amazing. I knew he was a great composer (obviously), but to be a great conductor and to just make something like that is amazing! Thanks for showing us this
I love all Frank's video's and interviews... a genius!
Have you watched his movie,"Baby Snakes?" CZcams it if you haven't. "200 Hotels" is another one.
He was capable of create a high quality piece of contemporary music on the go.
Given the mastery Frank had over ALL musical genres, I believe he eclipsed his heroes Stravinsky & Varese. Miss ya Frank, R.I.P. You got your " own little piece of heaven " now, and you ain't here to go through the insanity we are . . .
God, I miss Zappa :-(
i was 14, (1969), one of my first jobs, at a used furniture store in van nuys, ca. i went out to the loading dock, and sitting there, was the indian of the group. his wife was shopping inside. i knew who he was, sat down beside him, and shared an hour of cha-hortles! one of those memories i'll never forget.
A master of structured mayhem. Great compilation!
I LOVE this, thank you!
Thank-you, so much. Got on track again. Thank's again.
Sounds like soundpainting to me. :-)
Sheer Genius.. Way ahead of his time.
And nobody has even come close in the 1st Century! 😜
Zappa's music exists outside of what we understand to be time
Great post. Thanx. R.I.P. Frank Zappa Jimmy Carl Black, my heroes.
4:59 like something out of a movie, badass cinematography
I can see some dislike of FZ works as a conductor on comments here.. it takes hours and hours of rehearsal to be able to control a band like that, itll take some a lifetime to get it as good as FZ and company, believe it.. its not like hes some revolution or anything really new, but he definetely was one of the most sincere personas in music altogether
Amazing stuff! Thanks!
Tempo, dynamics, AND texture, phrasing, balance, blend, emotion, color, expression, articulation, line... there are LOTS more elements to conducting than simply tempo and dynamics!
I am a professional conductor, friend, and that is why I wrote my original post.
BTW, "what he did 'exceeded' conducting" was what you meant, right?
Zappa was a very talented guy who had a fresh approach to music which I do respect. I simply take issue with that moniker "the best conductor".
It is certainly easy to see Edgard Varese's influence watching this video. If you are not familiar with this composer, I suggest the piece "Ionisation". One amazing concept Frank had was incorporating the audience into a piece. This would not only ensure uniqueness, but give the audience the feeling of being "inside" the piece.
It's as if he created a real life super power.
I love it, nice work! Thank you.
fantastic Video, tnx!
Really great stuff! Thank You!!!
Great vid. Thanks. Zappa is king.
Thanks for this!!! Great memories of LIVE (since '68) variations of this stuff rekindled! Whatta guy, eh? ( :-)
Frank playing Wii Fusion-Band there. Incredible.
I love freaky frank RIP
Thanks for what you dit for us!!
I saw Frank Zappa conduct the L.A. Philharmonic one night at U.C.L.A. Not bad. He had the entire orchestra quacking and making fart noises and chanting and...well, ya had to be there. 1974 possibly.
he was experimenting. but he had his own band. the guy could play too. zappa was a gifted guitarist
That's just George Duke freaking out on his new synth Frank bought for him...
Frank Zappa was an original and
-truly unique rock'n'roll genuis.
Irrelevant to modern media and
Brilliant in his delivery of his own
brand of music which of course
-was zany and immediately great.
He is missed and quite the legend.
Thank;s in the biggest way . I think I just subscribed to a great channel.
How can I feel nostalgic for something I didn't live?
one of the greatest things i've ever seen in my life
Stunning! What a genius!
amazing!
Fantastic editing job. Great music and great people.
awesome vid!!
Can't believe he's been gone twenty years. Actually, still here, really!!!!
Thanks very much!! Very helpful.
Frank's conducting reminds me of Tim the Enchanter on the mountain top in MONTY PYTHON AND THE HOLY GRAIL, his gestures generating explosions here, there, wherever. Crazy genius!
The lesson to be learned from Frank's body of work is NOT a list of attributes to qualify him for geniushood, but rather, to open your mind to all of the possibilities that exist in musical expression that are ignored or not even thought of because of the rigidity that exists in the musical establishment, and Frankly, society as a whole. What is it's purpose ? - To delight, to surprise. it tells you nothing about human nature, that is not it's point. Frank's mind was very focused, no agitation.
thanks for that! :) I will show that to my ensemble students...although we still work on a rather simple medley of popular music tunes, this will hopefully put their minds on fire...or at least amuse them :D
something he brought that many forgot...music is fun...and should be played with a smile
thanks!
Beautiful!
The greatest musical mind EVER! and a tear fell from his eye
Zappa was a magician
Fantastic!! making music fun He was a very talented guy
a great conductor and an even better guitar player.
Thanks!
The man was a musical genious!
so inspiring...
George Duke is using a ring modulator on the Rhodes piano. Choral conductors in African-American churches use many of the same techniques, as their choirs are often singing spontaneous arrangements, or singing harmony parts assigned in realtime by the conductor. Thus, this Zappa conducting is as real as any other set of musical directions given in any number of different ensemble genres. Who is the talk-show host from the big-band and audience participation section, in the black and white footage? Performance art uses many of the same techniques. The danger for the avant-garde is that its non-standard uses of sound, image, and gesture can become codified, as Jackson Pollock's action paintings did. MBB
Michael BB , the talk show host with the big band In black & white footage is the Mike Douglas show in its 1st incarnation .
+Michael Ledford , thanx. I have recently seen other Mike Douglas/Zappa footage as well. MBB
+Michael Ledford Negative! That's not Mike Douglas. Many years ago I bought fro 818-PUMPKIN, the video called Video From Hell. It is a compilation of filmed sequences with FZ music attached, and on it is this black and white (with the blue-ish hue placed over it) talk show interview in its entirely. It is identified as from Australia in 1973, so it must be in January of 1973, because that was when Frank first went to Australia. I sold the video a long time ago when I was scrapping for money and forgot the name of the talk show. But there you ago, not Mike Douglas.
+Marc Ribe Got it, thanx, MBB
Marc Ribe I still have baby snakes & video from hell , both on " honker " video , I'll have a run thru of the vhs & see who your talking about , of that ain't Mike Douglas it's his body double but I will have a peep at the video from hell & see who the guy your talking about is , I could be wrong but I don't think so :)
Auténticamente genial. Solamente Frank Zappa es capaz de algo así. Irrepetible.
I love this so much
I LOVE this!
My friends and I from the Chicago 'burbs went to see Frank in concert 5 times, tripping every time. It was awesome. Uptown Theater 4 of the times, and once at a college auditorium where I was a mere 20 feet away from Frank and his body guard the whole time.....
The Greatest Contemporary Musician of the 20th Century.
Hahaahahahaahaa..........your local high school band probably has 10 musicians who are better than Zappa. Zappa was a clever show man and a con man.
Aeen my friend says he was better than mozart
Nice meltdown. Barney is still relevant. Zappa is not. What does that tell you?
Mak Muk Was Right ...it tells me that your out of your fuckin mind !! ha ha ha ha
Mak Muk Was Right mak muk f**k, Zappa is not relevant anymore. Have you seen how many people on CZcams are covering him. I think you are are not relevant and I should ignore you. But you are talking dirty about Zappa!
One of a kind
you WERE in the best band in the world Jimmy! We miss you both.
This is a first of the conductor side I have seen of this BEing. LOVED his musical creations and lyrics but his conductor- perfection must have been brutal. His signs are a conductors-sign-language of sorts. This vid creation is a fantastic side of this great I am thrilled to have introduced to me. ENJOY!!!!!! :-)
You tell ‘em Jimmy Carl…the best band in the world you were indeed!
He was a genius.
Although I'm sure he could give his bandmembers a VERY hard time when recording or rehearsing. As explained before, he was quite a perfectionist. But he COULD makes mistakes, while others weren't allowed too. I'm sure he was very demanding. Perhaps even to a degree us fans cant imagine. Thats a side of Frank we'll probably never know much about. Still, his demand of perfection and control in terms of music, created some of the most exceptional & beautifull art of the century
And you wonder where the inspiration for things like Stomp and Blue Man Group came from? All that AND real musical chops, always more chops, increasing over time. The man realized his dreams and made some of ours come true.
Frank was pure musical and comic genius.
Zappa's music is my religion
If only more musician's were like Frank
...and that's why you were and still remain to be so cool, Jimmy Carl Black!
Wow that's an interesting idea.
a brilliant and sick mind.
Thanks. I'll have to get that at once.
great
Like I said, if you like it, hoorah!
I needed to say what I have just said, after many years of nodding and affirming to a few friends how cool this stuff is...
I never find myself wanting to hear it. But they work hard, and are so CERTAIN they are geniuses; how can they be denied?
It is my belief y'all were the best band in the world, Zappa the best composer and director!
Frank was light years ahead of other producers and studio owners,Frank had the 1st fully digital recording studio in the world,for years the Utility Muffin Research Studios were the worlds most advanced studio ,Frank even made a presentation of an early version of I tunes where music buyers could download albums and single songs for a fee,the Zappa estate spent years in court against Apples I tunez.
I freaking love him telling the band to go back and forth between A and C about @9:00 in... So awesome....
REAL GENIUS!!!!!!!!
Dude conducted like some kind of wizard casting sonic spells.
Zappa was a mind supreme.
Jimmy Carl Black...you were absolutely in the best band in the world❤!!
Best band in the world from 1965 thru 1988 when he stopped touring.
This is what is know as musical concrete. The term is used when sounds via tape , are constructed and can be used to create the musical image to the listener. Zappa wanted to do that with live musicians.
00:35 This bit is presented as a bit of light relief, but it actually explains a Hell of a lot about Zappa's sound.
20th century composer/genius!
Frank made doing music fun for All!
fascinating. Zappa was the real deal as far as a avante-rock fusion composer and conductor goes. It's amusing that he conducted sometimes without a shirt and a cigarette going.
Roy Estrada was freakin' crazy! LOL
I love Frank gathering sound and hitting the guy in the face with it. Pure genius.
5 and a half stars for that one.