Melee moments that DEBUNK TIERLISTS
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- čas přidán 7. 05. 2024
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Thanks everyone for the love and support, melee is meant for sharing and I appreciate having you here with me!
Shoutouts to all the incredible players mentioned in this video for their likeness, for their gameplay, and for creating these incredible melee moments:
Hungrybox
Junebug
Ringler
Zain
Chango
Mang0
Plup
Armada
Rienne
Aura
Mew2king
Bowser Dave
Codeman
S2J
SFOP
Magi
Cody Schwab
TheSWOOPER
Aklo
KoDoRiN
Leffen
Axe
Rocket
Spark
Shoutouts to Brockor for their amazing unranked falco meme content: • when an unranked falco...
Thanks to Gamerfreak for the FOX TAS footage: • 20XX: The Ultimate Sho...
Thanks to the incredible tournaments and tournament organizers/producers who helped bring this footage to the masses.
Music:
Legend of Zelda Ocarina of time: In a Room
Legend of Zelda Ocarina of time: Hyrule Castle Grounds
Legend of Zelda Ocarina of time: Minuet of Forest
Pokemon Emerald: Rival Battle Vs May
Pokemon Emerald: Gym Theme
TheOfficialLobst: Interdimensional
Bramble Blast - Super Smash Brothers Brawl - Hry
That Duck vs Hbox set is so bittersweet because on one hand it was amazing to see Samus do so well, but on the other hand, I don’t think Samus will ever get that close to winning anything ever
Yeah, it's tough because duck was like the last high level samus. Who knows how long it'll be before we see the rise of someone fully committed to the character. There is that one up and commer but I can't remember his name. They're nasty tho
@@Singleparentof20000yap god over here
Wont be long before u see a samus in top 10 she has strong attacks and strong projectiles best recovery in the game like wtf more can u ask for
Yah I've always been a strong believer that she will return but that's also cuz she's my favorite so I'm a bit biased, but I firmly believe she has one of the most versatile tool sets and tho a lot of it can be mitigated or has no viable use at the moment, maybe one day it can be optimized better
I'll give it some time. There are some top level Samus mains currently but they don't go to much. Morsecode beat Jmook and Cody last year. We also have swooper and wevans still. Wevans had one of the craziest online brackets for a Samus last year.
Fun fact, Stark was actually present at the Duck vs Hbox set and took notes for this very video while eating a burger from burgers priest and looking handsome
SPEAK FOR YOURSELF GOOD LOOKIN' IT WAS A TEAM EFFORT
No flatbread though...
"A skilled Roy can beat any Fox" is becoming more and more visible
Hes the leader of the bunch!
You know him well
He's finally back
Performing for you
If you know the words
You can join in too!
This is accurate now that Cody lost to BING's DK and MorseCode's Samus at GOML
Never realized Spanish commentary was so hype
I always hated melee commentary but that was fun
Some of the best commentary I can remember in recent years. The Australian stream was great too.
Great video! A couple recent (tho online) examples i like are Akir beating Hbox with DK and Warriorknight beating Fishbait with Bowser
I totally forgot about the hype Akir hbox sets! Also, Smash Papi had some cool bowser gameplay against medz at smash factor but nothing flashy enough that I wanted to highlight.
Matchup experience > Character tier
I saw Aklo vs Wevans live
It was the most hilarious set all day
That Mango vs Cody GOML 11 clip looks like TAS.
Actually I'm pretty sure it is TAS or something, as this set doesn't exist. Mang0 has never Fox ditto'd Cody and Cody doesn't play Neutral Fox. GOML doesn't even go by numbers, it goes by the year.
@@LlnsteadTAS linked in the description ;)
I have no idea if this is sarcastic or if you guys legitimately don’t know there’s only been 10 GOMLs
LETS GO DK! That Aklo comeback was insane! More niche videos about the melee community!
Thank you so much!!! I couldn't agree more about DK and the aklo comeback
@@StarkDoes If you ever need some funny monkey moments for your videos lmk, I got some clips :D
let's go weed lesbian lmao
let's go weed lesbian
let's go weed lesbian lmao
Bro still wants girls but can’t get one so he becomes one kekw
@@Miyamoto_Jimsounds like most anime fans online having female pfps
I love Melee's Link so much! It's so hard not to root for him
this was awesome i wholly enjoyed this
Thank you so much, that makes me so happy to hear!!!
I love this channel and Stark
The year is 20XX now we have turbo Yoshi beating the top tier DK
No one uses any of these low tiers so no one knows the match up if anyone gets good with them. That's the same reason why someone was able to get fang to work.
Aklo confirms to me that an young link can win a major
But he plays link, not young link.
@@LargeMikelThough he played both
@@pedrohdalla nope. He only plays fox and link.
Junebug is biology's strongest warrior
What do you mean by that?
@@bucketfullabiscuits7865i’m assuming generic transphobic garbage, not worth anyone’s time
DK
@@bucketfullabiscuits7865 check out his biggest wins
Damn that first clip was cold with Hbox was cold
I love Aklo's and Savestate's Link! 💚💚
That thumbnail age wonderfully
My prophecies are a gift and a curse
it's unbelievable how low pichu's up and down throws launch, even if it is fox being thrown
good
Donkey Kong just beat Cody lol
this is why you either get the opinions of 2+ top players or take the average of every teirlist you see
Melee siiiiiick :)
Fuck yeah
Eddy is my hero
What about that time leffen was getting bodied by that dk player till he switched to shiek
That was ringler at mainstage!
I had it on my mind to include, but I was happier including some solid and more recent games against Zain!
One thing to keep in mind:
If your character has a 25-75 matchup, then (using standard Elo math, not sure what rating system is used in melee) you should expect an even fight if you're 200 elo points better than your opponent
I don't know what is being cooked here ‼️🍳
@@StarkDoes Basically saying that the skill difference between a top 10 player and a top 500 player very well might already be enough to consistently overcome a bad matchup
Rocket mentioned :0
MEWTWO IS TOP TIER RAAAAGH
Why did there need to be such a long intro for what is essentially a gr smash video
You are no fun LOL
i got clickbaited lol
Happens to the best of us
man showed the fake buffed pichu lol
I'm not sure if you're just making a joke about how good Codeman is or if you're serious LOL
These moments don't debunk anything. Melee tier lists are usually based on how many options a character can do in any situation, matchups, and results. It's not just one. It's all 3. Also, how exactly do we know that these moments weren't taken out of context?
Now, does that mean that tier lists should be taken as law? No, but they still don't lose all merit
Very important to let you know that you're coming off as really weird in this comment. You've read too much into a title that acts as a segue to the real topic, and is clearly hyperbole
And instead you've taken the mantle as a gatekeeper of tierlists, demanding context and criteria be followed as if your perspective is law
I usually ignore responding at length but I think this could be a good learning experience so I'm sending it your way!
@@StarkDoes that's not gatekeeping in the slightest. It could be taking the title too seriously, but not gatekeeping
@robbiesrevelations3096 I'm just explaining how your comment makes you come off, it's not a negotiation or a debate :)!
I promise that if you listened to the video, you'd understand the connection between content and title and you may not feel the need to grandstand on the topic of tierlists
I appreciate sharing your thoughts dude!
@StarkDoes I mean I could have missed part of the beginning perhaps
Tbh I'm on Robbie's side, a lot of people don't know a thing about melee and might already think like it's fox only(or anything similar), it's just big click bait for people that don't know better.
Not to take anything away from Aklo as he is amazing, but goddamn Kodorin must have been so sad. He got him to game 5, the difference between him winning and losing was probably just lacking matchup and Link knowledge.
naw Link bodies Mark
Idk, my best friend and I played Melee all the time in college. He solo-mained Marth and I did the same for Link. At first it seemed impossible to win, but after a few months of hard knocks, I learned how to win against him most of the time. Link has to put in more work, but I don’t think that Marth is a bad matchup for Link at all. I’d say about 50/50 for evenly skilled players. There’s just not many skilled Links.
@@samgould8567 That's my point. Kodorin didn't know Link, but Aklo knows Marth. If Kodorin knew Link, his frame data, his DI mixups, etc it would have ended very differently. He got to game 5 without knowing all of that stuff, meaning he was putting a lot of pressure on Aklo.
you say as you try your best to take the win away from aklo lol.
I love how the lowest level players are the most passionate about tier lists😂
Such examples including... Zain, hungrybox, and Leffen?
@@StarkDoes lets be real who is actually more concerned with a tier list top or bottom level players
@@StarkDoes sure they make videos when they lose and salty or when chat tries to force them to discuss it but its really not an important conversation
And my comment wasnt a shot at you if thats what youre thinkin😂
@MRRAGERNIH I'm silver in ranked netplay, this hit too close to home 😤✊️
Leffen is seriously the most insufferable smash player. Imagine putting Jigglypuff at the top of the list cause you lost ☠️☠️
the commentary 10/10
Wow didn’t know _real_ girls played this game *at all!* till seeing some of these clips 😝 that’s so awesome
*Edit, nvm there was like 1 (maybe) -BUT STILL! Better than 0