Yes the 10 speed transmission is the king of the show. OK round eye you give me only 252 horse 273 torque. 10 speed transmission birthday! You lose round eye!!!
I have been telling people this. “It’s not bad if you are driving like a normal person.” Highway merging with my legacy and trying to overtake someone is like watching pain dry.
Love my Legacy. That CVT really can get in the way at times. Personally, I bought an XT (GT) because I wanted space and extra passing power. For racing stuff, I’d look towards the more purposeful Subies. Great video!
This is definitely an interesting video! I also love my legacy and I live in New England. Next they should try chaining the 2 together and see who pulls who. Not every subaru is a race car hahahaha
I own a 2021 Leagcy GT and it's a great car. Yeah, the CVT dumbs down the performance and driving a bit but I'm a middle aged guy who isn't out looking to race Hondas, though I can't help but to think how great it would be if they put the Toyota AT that's in the the BRZ. I believe the CVT is a mainstay for Subaru because that transmission helps them get their MPG numbers for an AWD car.
Agree. Also if you wanna race then go get Golf GTI. Honda Accord is a good car but whether it goes faster than Legacy or not for me it does not matter, it's just not a race car
Less than 300 hp can be easily managed with FWD, more than that becomes harder to control and AWD comes into place. I knew the Accord would win, hands down. The Subaru Engine is strong, but the CVT kills the performance and the AWD loses power to the wheels in performance testing. However, this race is pointless because no Legacy owner would buy one to race, they are mature, family cars, soft, comfy, roomy, smooth, stable, built for safety. The Accord still has that racy Honda vibe, it's more childish and surprinsingly fast for it's looks, it depends on what you want.
Love my ‘20 Honda Accord Touring 2.0T! Such a fine car to own and drive. Really looking forward to what Honda is going to do with the next generation Accord.
Also I’ve been noticing that most people don’t know how to properly use Subarus paddle shifters, there’s a special hidden “sport mode” that is activated whenever the paddles are used and it does indeed make the car pull harder…And believe it or not, it’s best used by leaving the cvt in regular D gear…..
@@applepoop10 kinda, but it’s a detuned version with over 50 less horsepower, and the accord doesn’t have the track dynamics of the Civic Type-R. So it’s still tacky.
2019 Accord 2.0t 6 speed daily driver here. It is a total sleeper and a swiss army knife. Cruises like a dream, can sip gas if you try, can chirp tires at a moments notice, plenty of room for passengers or cargo. 31k miles and counting of very pleased driving.
Very nice comparison. It is not surprising because the Subaru only have 8 horse power more but it's a lot heavier and also the AWD will reduce some of the power going to the wheels. The Subaru needs 300 HP and a proper transmission and it will be an ideal everyday car in all weather conditions. They are genuinely built.
Brake boosting the Legacy will make it accelerate much quicker than in this video. The CVT doesn’t “shift” when brake boosted and will shave several tenths off 0-60 and quarter mile times. Wish they would have used the technique in this video. Race would be much closer.
No, it's not. Maybe for 2023, where the 'Sport' gets the 2.4T... but the plain XT Limited and Touring don't get it. And no, it wouldn't have even made a difference. Especially from 0.
I really wish car makers would stop putting garbage CVT transmissions in any car that is even remotely sporty. I absolutely will not buy a car with a cvt in it.
Thanks for doing this Sam. Subaru has been really disappointing lately. They have this stupid love affair with the CVT that has no sport mode. I drive an Ascent and it share common characteristics as the Legacy GT. Slow and slumbering. No drive modes and the CVT with the fake shifts programmed into it just plain sucks. The last time I had fun driving a cvt was my 2017 Forester XT with SI-Drive.
You say the Ascent is slow? The Atlas and the Telluride are also 7 seater Family SUVs and the Ascent has a turbo and faster than those cars. For it's category, the Ascent is actually faster.
@@phuzaxeman for it's category, the Ascent has more pep compared to its normally aspirated counterparts as it should because of the turbo. The downside to it is that the driver should keep the turbo spooling all the time because without the boost, the Ascent is a slug. With the turbo spooling all the time, there goes the gas mileage that was supposed to be achieved by the smaller 4 cylinder engine.
@@chrisg5101 please find where I compared the Ascent to be as fast as a car. My post is about how Subaru has been disappointing as of late. How the Ascent shares the same " novelties" with the Legacy XT/GT such as NO Sport Mode, the disappointing CVT and the way it's programmed. It even has a recall that Subaru has not yet found a fix for. I've had 4 Subarus and I have seen how it was fun cars to drive being mainstream and boring. We all have different opinions about our cars but reading comprehension is key.
Except for the WRX and WRX STI Subaru have been de-sportifying their Cars. They stopped making Turbo charged Legacies and then started back because of public outcry but made them less performance than the GT/GT Spec b models and the GT models from the 5th generation. Then they stopped making Turbo Forresters. So there is a general theme of making their cars less performance oriented. While other companies have been increasing their power output Subaru has maintained the power on the STI @ 305 HP for 10 years.
Thank you Sam! Wonder how much of a difference the accord would have made with the stock rims. Still hoping we get a chance to see the current Nissan Maxima vs Honda Accord 2.0t sport.
That cvt kills the subaru,it limits the power so it won't hurt it.It seems like the engine doesn't even rev up,don't know if it would win but definitely would help if it had a regular automatic.
I had a Legacy non turbo and it was dangerously slow in the ramps, passing etc. Had to sell it after just 6 months and got me a Stinger GT line. Subaru was great on the snow though
Honda really made something special wit the 2.0t. Its platforms lik this tht need to b taken serious and taken into account for when its time to make the next generation. Honda/Acura needs to start letting their hair down. They add a few more goodies to the next accord wit this same setup and it will b amazing.
That CVT is the biggest offender. Having a higher weight doesn't help either but the CVT just doesn't seem to get the power down as well as a traditional transmission. If they'd lose the fake shifting it would help to. Why even bother to further cripple the CVT with fake shifts?
i agree with Sam. the legacy engine's good but that cvt is garbage. you can hear the slow fake gear shifts. overall, it performed better than expected cuz that accord wasn't really far off. race it against the tlx 2.0t
Cvts usually have a disadvantage from 0 and advantage once rolling, but since the gt was a cvt awd, the cvt cancelled the awd traction advantage from 0mph start.
Honda simple just makes the best compact engines and theyre producing better transmissions. The old 2.0 B, K and D series engines were already handling 500hp with custom turbos and that was before 2.0T became mainstream
Not only that, but so easy to untap more power and release the gap sauce. I think dollar for dollar stock and modded, these Hondas can't be beat. A tune and these things are crazy. I love it.
@@wbwayne8887 BRZ great car I’ll give you that, but their new wrx and sti (or lack thereof) is not a very good sign, and having owned a 17 wrx in the past i feel like the cars are under built
I'm curious as to which of these would do better on an autocross track. I'm actually kinda surprised though the legacy was alittle more competitive than I thought. Those Accord 2.0 T's are fast.
My 2018 Accord 1.5T just had a fuel injector fail at 58k error code P0172 (posted on my channel). Modern Honda look amazing but once the 3yr/36k warranty expires you're on your own and you have no idea how expensive modern Honda engines are to fix. Oil changed at 80%, Shell regular used 80% of the time, always did warm up the car in the winter. Dealer so out of touch they recommended brake fluid replacement at 30k. I've never seen this part fail in ANY of my past cars. When asked why the injector failed so early Dealer said they see them all the time and cost of replacement is $1600-$2500 (must replace all 4) and the new injectors warranty is only for 12k/12mos! I was in love and bought the 1st Accord on the lot with series ending in -0001 but when I made a case with Honda to see if it could be part of a bad batch all I got was the VM of the case manager for weeks on end. Fool me once shame on me, fool me twice...
Would really like to see the Accord VS the Elantra N. Now that would be phenomenal! In that case, the Elantra packs more power and a lighter weight. Another good one would be the Elantra N VS the Fusion Sport. Or better yet the Fusion Sport VS the Kia Stinger GT or G70. Those racing matchups would take the cake!
One thing I noticed about my legacy xt, is if your just mat it, it will accelerate terrible. If you roll into it, it will accelerate a ton better. With that being said, I still think the accord would still outrun the legacy.
Yeah, learned that in my 2011 Leggy. Still would buy for the AWD and build, but speed is never gonna be it's thing... Which sucks. Still, that Accord is very impressive. Honda really built a sleeper.
The Accord doing better on the launch really surprised me. Either driver error or the way that Subaru is setup or whatever. Rest of it makes total sense.
You can't really brake torque that CVT. I have a 3.0r outback and I have the accord 2.0t until 45mph or so where he starts catching up again if I launch well. The legacy is bland. Also my outback has a horrible dead spot between 68mph and 80mph. It then hits harder and you can feel the timing change. But most cars with equal power catch up slightly around that speed and and then after 80mph it starts pulling again. Weird ass car. Might be something wrong with the VVT.
Try not to feel bad, all Honda products have some kinda performance aspect to it...it may not be in the way you may want it out the box but it's there. Steel wheels ain't a disadvantage, it may not look like much but boi the difference...what u need to do is get one accord with rims and the other on steels and see what it do .
@@abulhashem-jc9mv lots of different factors. The races Sam facilitates underlines everything we need to know about the cars being pitted against each other. Random videos online usually leaves it to the viewers imagination to make conclusions.
Subaru finally fixes the engine problems but gets rid of the manual option, I loved my old lgt. I don't hate cvts but this one isn't right yet and the fake steps are unnecessary and slow the car down if they just let it do what it should you wouldn't lose boost on shifts and it would keep a steady power band.
The legacy is an amazing package. The one thing that hurts it is the CVT. I owned a 20 GT and that’s its weakest link. Where it excels is a drag race if the road is even a little wet.
The transmission (10spd) is perfectly mated with the 2.0T in the Accord.
Yes the 10 speed transmission is the king of the show.
OK round eye you give me only 252 horse 273 torque.
10 speed transmission birthday!
You lose round eye!!!
@@Shelter93 what are you saying lol
That's our secret sauce
@@Shelter93 Any German car with 200 hp rapes this Honda
@@nstipet no it doesn’t
The Accord is a true sleeper. I can hear the pain in your voice Sam everytime the Accord breezes by lol.
It has the same engine as the Civic Type R just with a smaller turbo.
@@applepoop10 Same block but not the same engine. Different camshafts, different fuel system, etc.
@@BIOHAZARD_V2 correct. both are k20c variants, obviously the type R comes with a bigger turbo and internals
Wow, those Subaru CVT fake shifts are slower than my Altima's.
😂😂
Lmaooo what year altima do you have? 🤣🤣🤣
😂😂😂
I have been telling people this. “It’s not bad if you are driving like a normal person.” Highway merging with my legacy and trying to overtake someone is like watching pain dry.
so put up ur car against a wrx or sti
there is sport mode on legacy. It's s drive button on the steering wheel. It's surprising that these experts couldn't notice it.
There isn't a sport mode on the Legacy XT 22. Sport mode come with the 2024 Legacy Sport
Love my Legacy. That CVT really can get in the way at times. Personally, I bought an XT (GT) because I wanted space and extra passing power. For racing stuff, I’d look towards the more purposeful Subies. Great video!
The CVT exists because the EPA keeps turning the screws on MPG . There should be some relaxing of MPG demands on fulltime AWD cars.
This is definitely an interesting video! I also love my legacy and I live in New England. Next they should try chaining the 2 together and see who pulls who. Not every subaru is a race car hahahaha
Correct me if I'm wrong, but the GT has a turbo right? I got the sport and it's slowwwwww i wish I went w the 6cyl
I own a 2021 Leagcy GT and it's a great car. Yeah, the CVT dumbs down the performance and driving a bit but I'm a middle aged guy who isn't out looking to race Hondas, though I can't help but to think how great it would be if they put the Toyota AT that's in the the BRZ.
I believe the CVT is a mainstay for Subaru because that transmission helps them get their MPG numbers for an AWD car.
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Agree. Also if you wanna race then go get Golf GTI. Honda Accord is a good car but whether it goes faster than Legacy or not for me it does not matter, it's just not a race car
That CVT from Subaru is terrible....its like having a fat lady sit on your face....
You're an idiot for buying that car lmaooo
@@vitaly062 Or just get a slightly older legacy with the turbo EJ engine. They make light work of GTI's let alone an Accord.
Less than 300 hp can be easily managed with FWD, more than that becomes harder to control and AWD comes into place. I knew the Accord would win, hands down. The Subaru Engine is strong, but the CVT kills the performance and the AWD loses power to the wheels in performance testing. However, this race is pointless because no Legacy owner would buy one to race, they are mature, family cars, soft, comfy, roomy, smooth, stable, built for safety. The Accord still has that racy Honda vibe, it's more childish and surprinsingly fast for it's looks, it depends on what you want.
Love my ‘20 Honda Accord Touring 2.0T! Such a fine car to own and drive. Really looking forward to what Honda is going to do with the next generation Accord.
Please give the Accord owner a swift kick in the nuts for me having that Type-R badge.
Make that 2, kicks to the nuts please.
I mean it does have a Type R engine 😂😂
@@AlienCreatureThing with a smaller turbo and less aggressive tune.
Also I’ve been noticing that most people don’t know how to properly use Subarus paddle shifters, there’s a special hidden “sport mode” that is activated whenever the paddles are used and it does indeed make the car pull harder…And believe it or not, it’s best used by leaving the cvt in regular D gear…..
Love these everyday car comparisons, especially the accord :)
Love these videos. Great content
Wow, a rare prototype Accord Type-R
it looks so tacky lol
Well it has the civic Type R engine.
@@applepoop10 kinda, but it’s a detuned version with over 50 less horsepower, and the accord doesn’t have the track dynamics of the Civic Type-R. So it’s still tacky.
2019 Accord 2.0t 6 speed daily driver here. It is a total sleeper and a swiss army knife. Cruises like a dream, can sip gas if you try, can chirp tires at a moments notice, plenty of room for passengers or cargo. 31k miles and counting of very pleased driving.
That was actually closer than i thought. CVT is Caca! Lol
Do it again in the snow 🤣
As always fellas … Cheers 🍻
To more juicy content 💯
Accord vs Elantra N would be a bad A** race 👍 Great video as always !
Sonota N would win
@@manuelnoriega5364 …..? KK
Elantra is quicker than Sonata. So, Elantra would smoke the Accord.
@@jamesivan1983 they both have the same 0-60 times….
@@christianservin7635 I've heard and read K5 and Sonata are 5.2-5.4.. Elantra N is 5 seconds.
Legacy is fuel ⛽️ consumption and better in snow. AWD… not for racing. Good power not overpriced like the Accord.
That Legacy is like plain yogurt. Nothing going on there.
I know looks are subjective but I couldn't agree more. I don't get any kind of fizz from that thing.
Yep, 5th gen and lower is faster than the current gen..
Subaru 2.0t easily f*ck that accord
I had a 2008 Legacy Spec. B and THAT was an amazing Legacy. This...is just an appliance, no emotion, no passion, just transportation.
@@thekingandi1705 Yep the new legacy is boring, i have a JDM B4 RSK with the twin turbo and the 5 spd MT it is so much fun and fast.
No brake boosting from the dig clearly
Driver mod needed
Yup, the driver clearly doesn't know how to do a proper launch.
Sam is relying on the non existing sport mode lol
Can you do a race with Cadillac ats 2.0t vs accord 2.0t? That would be great!
Very nice comparison. It is not surprising because the Subaru only have 8 horse power more but it's a lot heavier and also the AWD will reduce some of the power going to the wheels. The Subaru needs 300 HP and a proper transmission and it will be an ideal everyday car in all weather conditions. They are genuinely built.
yeah, its called a WRX
@@nevethena7450 I am more interested in the legacy because it's roomier and prefer the looks of the legacy with a good automatic transmission.
@@Mahesh-bo8lv yeah , it calls BL generation
The accord actually has 272 horsepower as dyno'd by Hondata
The TLX figures are actually the accord's
Brake boosting the Legacy will make it accelerate much quicker than in this video. The CVT doesn’t “shift” when brake boosted and will shave several tenths off 0-60 and quarter mile times. Wish they would have used the technique in this video. Race would be much closer.
They never drive Subaru's right, manual or automatic tbh, but Subaru's do tend to have a bit of a learning curve.
Race would still have the same result regardless.
@@LigerZeroFtw no doubt. Just saying it would be a lil closer is all.
Agree. If it were to go toe to toe with onyx XT outback and doing this would be much closer
You’re racing and you don’t know that the sport mode in the steering wheel for the Subaru 😃
Really ?
Would it of made a difference? I feel like my 2005 Lgt is lighter and faster than this new one. Power is only up a tad from 2005
@@backyardscaler I got an 05 LGT too and I support this statement
No, it's not. Maybe for 2023, where the 'Sport' gets the 2.4T... but the plain XT Limited and Touring don't get it. And no, it wouldn't have even made a difference. Especially from 0.
2022 legacy has no sport mode
No surprise on the winner here. Honda needs to put out a performance accord.
I'd love to see you get another Accord that's been tuned with a ktuner and some bolt ons so we could see the difference.
I really wish car makers would stop putting garbage CVT transmissions in any car that is even remotely sporty. I absolutely will not buy a car with a cvt in it.
A legacy is not sporty. Your concerns are dismissed.
Thanks for doing this Sam. Subaru has been really disappointing lately. They have this stupid love affair with the CVT that has no sport mode. I drive an Ascent and it share common characteristics as the Legacy GT. Slow and slumbering. No drive modes and the CVT with the fake shifts programmed into it just plain sucks. The last time I had fun driving a cvt was my 2017 Forester XT with SI-Drive.
But...why you buy it tho? I still think kia has the best feeling CVT.
You say the Ascent is slow? The Atlas and the Telluride are also 7 seater Family SUVs and the Ascent has a turbo and faster than those cars. For it's category, the Ascent is actually faster.
@@phuzaxeman for it's category, the Ascent has more pep compared to its normally aspirated counterparts as it should because of the turbo. The downside to it is that the driver should keep the turbo spooling all the time because without the boost, the Ascent is a slug. With the turbo spooling all the time, there goes the gas mileage that was supposed to be achieved by the smaller 4 cylinder engine.
@@chrisg5101 please find where I compared the Ascent to be as fast as a car. My post is about how Subaru has been disappointing as of late. How the Ascent shares the same " novelties" with the Legacy XT/GT such as NO Sport Mode, the disappointing CVT and the way it's programmed. It even has a recall that Subaru has not yet found a fix for. I've had 4 Subarus and I have seen how it was fun cars to drive being mainstream and boring. We all have different opinions about our cars but reading comprehension is key.
@@chrisg5101 you've driven them or you actually own them? Thanks for your opinion.
Switch back to your previous intro.. this new one BLOWS
Except for the WRX and WRX STI Subaru have been de-sportifying their Cars. They stopped making Turbo charged Legacies and then started back because of public outcry but made them less performance than the GT/GT Spec b models and the GT models from the 5th generation. Then they stopped making Turbo Forresters. So there is a general theme of making their cars less performance oriented. While other companies have been increasing their power output Subaru has maintained the power on the STI @ 305 HP for 10 years.
Thank you Sam! Wonder how much of a difference the accord would have made with the stock rims. Still hoping we get a chance to see the current Nissan Maxima vs Honda Accord 2.0t sport.
Would love to see it
@@carlossanchez1151 You can expect a similar result. The Maxima will lose.
If Subaru gets rid of that crappy CVT, that's a different outcome. CVT is great for fuel mileage, but not if you want to have fun.
That Type R badge alone was +52 HP.
A very very tired joke, and it doesn't even have that badge.
@@mofayer you seem tired that you missed it, Bro.
That cvt kills the subaru,it limits the power so it won't hurt it.It seems like the engine doesn't even rev up,don't know if it would win but definitely would help if it had a regular automatic.
If Sam launched it correctly the subaru wouldn't have shifted and wouldn't been closer 2 the accord.
Them new cvt mush be shit cause my old Honda cvt is awesome
I would like to see a race with the 2022 Acura RDX A-spec AWD. And the 2022 Lexus NX AWD 350.
Vs genesis whatever it's called suv.
I had a Legacy non turbo and it was dangerously slow in the ramps, passing etc. Had to sell it after just 6 months and got me a Stinger GT line. Subaru was great on the snow though
That stock 2.0T on the Accord always amaze me. I have one and it's a great car.
Ah but it isn't stock... it has modded tail lights! lol
Didn’t know there was a Honda Accord type r lol good races Sam!
🤣🤣
I think in Europe there is..
There is type r accord in Europe , older gen
Honda really made something special wit the 2.0t. Its platforms lik this tht need to b taken serious and taken into account for when its time to make the next generation. Honda/Acura needs to start letting their hair down. They add a few more goodies to the next accord wit this same setup and it will b amazing.
That CVT is the biggest offender. Having a higher weight doesn't help either but the CVT just doesn't seem to get the power down as well as a traditional transmission. If they'd lose the fake shifting it would help to. Why even bother to further cripple the CVT with fake shifts?
I wish they would put a manual in the Legacy. Being 49, I would look a little ridiculous in a WRX.
2005-2009 legacy GT came manual and turbocharged, very fun cars but can also make a really good quick daily driver if you can find a clean 08 or 09
i agree with Sam. the legacy engine's good but that cvt is garbage. you can hear the slow fake gear shifts. overall, it performed better than expected cuz that accord wasn't really far off. race it against the tlx 2.0t
Cvts usually have a disadvantage from 0 and advantage once rolling, but since the gt was a cvt awd, the cvt cancelled the awd traction advantage from 0mph start.
Love your content bro. @1:36 i think its touring model though
Honda simple just makes the best compact engines and theyre producing better transmissions. The old 2.0 B, K and D series engines were already handling 500hp with custom turbos and that was before 2.0T became mainstream
Not only that, but so easy to untap more power and release the gap sauce. I think dollar for dollar stock and modded, these Hondas can't be beat. A tune and these things are crazy. I love it.
Please stop wiping your gauge cluster with an s.o.s pad.
I've learned to squeeze a lot of fun out of my 2017 Legacy and it's paddle "shifters"
Sam would you consider posting the 1/4 mile and 0-60 times too on each run?
Hard to get dragy to work :(
@@SamCarLegion
Might need to get Dragy 2.0, 😂
@@SamCarLegion just time the video bro.
@@SamCarLegion Brooks @dragtimes gets it to work no problem
total bullchit vid... can't find s# mode, can't get dragy to work... time to hang it up sam.@@SamCarLegion
Never underrepresente an accord 🤝🏽
DNA Type-R with K20C1 is never wrong 😎 good job honda 👍
I’ve been enjoying my 2022 Sport 2.0t 🙌🏽 great car
I really think Subaru is trying to tell consumers they are not the brand for car enthusiasts anymore.
BRZ???
@@wbwayne8887 BRZ great car I’ll give you that, but their new wrx and sti (or lack thereof) is not a very good sign, and having owned a 17 wrx in the past i feel like the cars are under built
@@KO-iw3vu
I completely agree about those models. They aren't really the most attractive cars in their respective class either imo.
You're a hoot to watch when you're in the losing car, Sam. You remind me of me! You make racing fun cause you care so much! LOL! Love your channel!
I appreciate that!
I like the performance on the Honda Accord with those light wheels
I'm curious as to which of these would do better on an autocross track. I'm actually kinda surprised though the legacy was alittle more competitive than I thought. Those Accord 2.0 T's are fast.
This is easy. I place my bets on the Accord as the winner, unless the Legacy is tuned.
If Subaru didn't have those fake shifts the Subaru probably wouldn't have been dropped as bad. Those fake shifts cut power terrible in the 2.4
If he brake boosted, it would hang at highest rpm without shifts. He just doesn't know ho to use this car properly.
You need to mannually shift the legacy. It holds the gears and acts as a manual using steering shifters.
a CVT is like you are setup on a blind date...and told she would be hot...then she is not....its that level of sadness and disappointment....
My 2018 Accord 1.5T just had a fuel injector fail at 58k error code P0172 (posted on my channel). Modern Honda look amazing but once the 3yr/36k warranty expires you're on your own and you have no idea how expensive modern Honda engines are to fix. Oil changed at 80%, Shell regular used 80% of the time, always did warm up the car in the winter. Dealer so out of touch they recommended brake fluid replacement at 30k. I've never seen this part fail in ANY of my past cars. When asked why the injector failed so early Dealer said they see them all the time and cost of replacement is $1600-$2500 (must replace all 4) and the new injectors warranty is only for 12k/12mos! I was in love and bought the 1st Accord on the lot with series ending in -0001 but when I made a case with Honda to see if it could be part of a bad batch all I got was the VM of the case manager for weeks on end. Fool me once shame on me, fool me twice...
Those fake shifts slow that legacy down.
Love my 2.0T, can hang with cars 20k more expensive.
Watching these videos make it harder and harder to sell my accord. I have too many cars.
Curious how the manual versions would've faired.
Definitely need to see the maxima on this platform
It’s slow with cvt it’s garbage 🗑
I'm just gonna keep asking for a 2019+ C300 until it happens 😁
Sam can is the GLI faster than a Forte GT?
Would really like to see the Accord VS the Elantra N. Now that would be phenomenal! In that case, the Elantra packs more power and a lighter weight. Another good one would be the Elantra N VS the Fusion Sport. Or better yet the Fusion Sport VS the Kia Stinger GT or G70. Those racing matchups would take the cake!
Throttle house literally posted that exact video today
Did they clean the gauge screen with sandpaper? 😧
Funny thing is, there is a Sport mode or Si drive mode, which can be found at bottom of the steering wheel. 🔧🏁
It does have a sport mode S# sharp button. On steering wheel to the right.
Sam please accord 1.5T vs sonata 1.6T
Retro watching. Even sadder that Accord is no longer available. It was a remarkable sedan.
Don't Buy a New Legacy if your trying to head to the Track. Its like wearing Ski Boots to a Swim Meet
Why not use the manual mode on the Subaru, would that not improve performance?
One thing I noticed about my legacy xt, is if your just mat it, it will accelerate terrible. If you roll into it, it will accelerate a ton better. With that being said, I still think the accord would still outrun the legacy.
Yeah, learned that in my 2011 Leggy. Still would buy for the AWD and build, but speed is never gonna be it's thing... Which sucks. Still, that Accord is very impressive. Honda really built a sleeper.
The Accord doing better on the launch really surprised me. Either driver error or the way that Subaru is setup or whatever. Rest of it makes total sense.
You can't really brake torque that CVT. I have a 3.0r outback and I have the accord 2.0t until 45mph or so where he starts catching up again if I launch well.
The legacy is bland. Also my outback has a horrible dead spot between 68mph and 80mph. It then hits harder and you can feel the timing change. But most cars with equal power catch up slightly around that speed and and then after 80mph it starts pulling again. Weird ass car. Might be something wrong with the VVT.
Over 400lbs of extra weight doesn't help...
I did enjoy my 3.0 '04 Accord. Too bad they never put out a 3.0 Turbo... The 3.0 was supposed to be a VTEC, but not as much VTEC as my '98 Prelude.
Hey Sam, put my 4G TL fwd to race a 2022 IS300 and a 2.0T Accord.
So how about the Accord 2.0t vs Hyundai Elantra N?
It would be good if you make the accord heavier by putting some sand bags in the trunk and then film Run 3 and 4.
I own a 2018 sport 2.0T one of the greatest car I ever owned
Try not to feel bad, all Honda products have some kinda performance aspect to it...it may not be in the way you may want it out the box but it's there. Steel wheels ain't a disadvantage, it may not look like much but boi the difference...what u need to do is get one accord with rims and the other on steels and see what it do .
U should do the 2.0t Altima vs the 2.0t accord
Why you don't use paddle shifters on Legacy?
Hey Sam please do Kia Stinger gt vs Accord 10 speed 2.0t. Great content!
Stinger gt line would be a good race stinger gt would smoke the accord tho
Totally different classes but would be fun to see.
Why not? There's a video 2.0t gaping Stinger gt!
@@abulhashem-jc9mv lots of different factors. The races Sam facilitates underlines everything we need to know about the cars being pitted against each other. Random videos online usually leaves it to the viewers imagination to make conclusions.
@@Jojoboogie czcams.com/video/6MJa9qCGit0/video.html look here 2.0t with just intake gapping Stinger gt 3.3t lol
Subaru finally fixes the engine problems but gets rid of the manual option, I loved my old lgt. I don't hate cvts but this one isn't right yet and the fake steps are unnecessary and slow the car down if they just let it do what it should you wouldn't lose boost on shifts and it would keep a steady power band.
Should be a sport mode with SI Mode for the Legacy.
Did you all have the legacy xt with turbo?
I saw the outcome of this race before I even finished reading the title, ha.
CVT doesn't belong in an automobile. I'd NEVER buy one.
Can you try a 2005-2006 Subaru Outback XT Limited?
I do 0-60 on my 2022 Legacy with premium gas in 5.1/5.2 seconds. You have to break torque it to get better results and rerun the race.
Why you use fake shifting ? It just make it slower.
Only God knows why Subaru is still using the cvt in one of the applications that killed one of the once respected vehicles back in the 90's. Shame.
The guy driving the Legacy has a Honda jacket!!
This Accord will beat the new TLX as well.
Save $10k and get touchscreen too over the TLX.
Could you guys do the outback wilderness?
Previous Legacy looks much more sportier and more meaningful than the current model.
2017 V6 Accord was a beast and this 10 speed 2.0T is a beast. Crazy new accord power train is dog shit
The legacy is an amazing package. The one thing that hurts it is the CVT. I owned a 20 GT and that’s its weakest link. Where it excels is a drag race if the road is even a little wet.
Do accord 2.0 vs Camry TRD
Camry gets schooled all the time lol
@@joshuainnocent6956 that is what I would expect but it would be nice race!
Accords smokes them no point