Turbo Lost Zone Matchup Guide
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- čas přidán 5. 08. 2024
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In this video I go over every relevant matchup in the format for Turbo Lost Zone with Dragonite V and many other attackers!
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0:26 LZ Mirror
- 0:37 Details on LZ Zard
- 2:31 Details on LZ Tina
- 3:52 (deviation)
3:26 (stops at 3:52) & 5:01 Gardevoir
8:12 Lugia
- 13:04 (deviation)
12:42 (stops at 13:04) & 13:26 Miraidon
14:33 Mew
- 15:45 Fusion Mew
17:05 Goodra
I only need to say thank you , you're te coach i didn't know that i needed , but I can now i understand my deck better .... but I will keep my snorlax instead of second cramo because klara make it still usefull monoprize killer for those V max users and big hp pokemon that still facing where I play .
Thank you so much!
Yes dude. Yes
You should do sable zard next!
Who else is only here not playing Turbo LZ, but to figure out its strategy against your deck so that you can more easily counter it XD
Very insightful thanks!! Thoughts on teching in Pidgeot V? Useful to remove two prizer while still going seal stone activation, great escape rope target so you can remove damage, and prevents deck out
Yeah I really like it, preventing deck out doesn’t really matter, and I found it was very rare you actually remove damage, but the extra seal stone user is very good in mirror, we thought playing second cram would help slightly more but it’s very close.
What tech cards would you put into the deck for the best possible Lugia matchup? Spiritomb?
Spiritomb isn’t great in this deck but it’s probably one of the best techs, kyogre is the best tech for sure.
What do you think of the turbo lost box + kyogre build, vs standard turbo lost box?
Kyogre is good haven’t played much of it this format so can’t speak to it too much
Stéphane Ivanoff has published an article/guide for LZ Kyogre (on TCG Park)
These vids are great for noobs like me lol. Out of curiosity, would LZ tina matchup guide from 3 months ago still be relevant? Thanks for the content as usual
not that much, the deck actually changed a lot but there's probably some things to take away from it
@@jamesctcg that works for me, I'll check it out, thanks
Can u tell me? How to win magnezone vstar without sky steal and zapdos. Its hard to play when they knock manafy with magnezone v then use vstar knock 2 comfey. Its hard to play smoothly when saw this matchup.
It’s tough but the idea is just to use dragonite a lot
Agree with all your input. Lugia has been a bear. Thankfully, it’s dying off. Unfortunately, Arc/Dura and Arc/Tina lists are filling in where Lugia fell off. Those matchups feel pretty tough when opponent doesn’t bench many lower HP Pokémon. Hard to get through the big guys whilst being judged. Any input?
Yeah I think arc piles will get worse over time but yeah they are basically just as tough matchups as Lugia. Feels like the best chance against them is turn 1 dragonite going second or turn 2 dragonite going first
Watched your video, had only been playing the TCG for only about 1 ½ months, and went 3-1 at my first TCG competition ever and my only loss was a massive brick. Thanks for all the advice!
I was wondering if you do any sort of coaching. I would REALLY love to become a player to be reckoned with, even if it is just on a local level.
I don't do coaching personally, but my friend Brent Tonisson (@wetgoose twitter) is doing a really good job at coaching rn :)
@@jamesctcg thanks so much! I'll have to hit them up :) keep up the great content
Whats the best strategy for urshifu and duraladon?
urshifu if they are inteleon the main goal is to raikou kill inteleon vmax and then find the other prizes using dragonite and sableye. Against duraludon just use dragonite as much as possible
Bro, that’s god content, rlly… keep up! It’s helping me alot for São Paulo Regionals, I’ll be playing gardy.
Can you give me your take on how to tech for Vulpix? I’m thinking about Golurk-V + belt or defiance band
Mimikyu ex and path are in my opinion the best techs, mimikyu ex just kills it, and path can shut off zacian to kill it. Mimikyu takes up less space as you can replace zacian for it, but path is more useful in the mirror
Also, I think it's fine to not respect it. It was specififc for the EUIC meta, and you'll do just fine aniway by just playing memory skip ralts and 2 boss/serena
I agree
Thanks for the feedback guys! I think I’ll just stick to the regular build, it’s just too consistent the way it is
Is it better to go first or second in the turbo mirror
Nobody actually knows tbh I personally think it's second though
2 cram and 4 water vs 1 cram and 5 water? I'm wondering if 9 energy total might be too little.
9 energy seems fine with 2 recycler but yeah it is the literal minimum you can play
Would putting in that trap Mawile to turbo lz help with any matchups? Or just take the L with lugia
We tried mawile extensively, the issue is that if Lugia knows you have it it doesn’t really do anything, and if they play Thornton you can lose a game you should otherwise win so it doesn’t really feel worth it
thoughts on cross switcher or kyogre in turbo lost box?
Cross switcher cologne is a cool idea I think is worth trying. Ogre is also cool but you have to change the deck a decent amount to play it imo(adding stop)
@@jamesctcg assuming you can cross switcher cologne the manaphy in the mirror, is it smarter to sabeleye first or greninja first?
Thoughts on Sky Seal as a tech for Vstar matchups?
Good but feels mostly unnecessary
@@jamesctcg I kinda agree it's only for the lugia matchup but it has come in handy for me in some league games
What is your thoughts on avery in lost box?
Mid supporters that aren’t incredibly strong just end up being worse than colress. Klara wouldn’t be played if it wasn’t absolutely neccessary. Boss and Roxanne are the only examples of supporters that are strong enough to even be considered in lost zone
Thank you so we won't see avery in the lost box? Thought it would be a intresting tech as it can help clean off garde and lugia etc
Please make a SableZard viodeo like that! Your content is amazing btw
Double jelly don't see that too often opponent played it about as well as they could
Why no hawlucha tho ?
Found it isn’t useful even close to enough to be worth playing
Most times it just becomes a liability. The only usefull scenario for Hawlucha is tagging double Comfey so you can take 2 out with Sableye. Usefull, sure, but it is not worth the trouble of wasting a bench slot.