I met a Niantic developer at the Google Next conference as they are also a GCP user. Talking with a dev, they said it’s a soul crushing job. Lots of technical debt they have to clean up and you have a player base that dislikes you as you just try to keep the game running as people leave. (ie the more developer leave the more pressure it puts on the team and the more people leave… it’s a vicious cycle) So yeah after talking to the dev, I now have a different viewpoint on the game.
Some people can’t play the game as intended because of Niantic’s poor game design in terms of pokestop and gyms. I don’t blame some people for cheating/spoofing because it’s almost impossible for them to play the game otherwise. That’s the only way certain people can actually enjoy the game. Sorry you prolly live in a city with many stops and gyms- some people aren’t as lucky. Instead of complaining like a little b!tch, maybe put your shoes and perspective on other plays in the game. I’m a P2W player so idgaf about this, I care about my friends who don’t have the financial ability to “play” the game long term
@@pedrogomespg.5882 wow such a great comment. Typical lefty response. Cheating in ANY aspect of life is lame. If you support it then you’re a fucking tool.
Imagine the increase in interest in GBL if they switched to a show 6, pick 3 model It'd eliminate a lot of the potential manipulation and it's more in line with tournament play It's an obvious solution so they probably won't do it
they should add support moves too like helping hand or terrain or weather moves, put them on a few pokemon and we can then have team archetypes, you would be able to focus your team of 3 on a certain type with less drawbacks
I'm happy for it, makes the game a challenge nothing else in pogo is... I'm sure there is a algorithm, but I go on discord everyday and I've asked many times and no one runs into this every game hard counter crap and I never have either
Ok, that lag hack happened to me a few times yesterday and I thought "Oh great. A new glitch." Now I know that someone didn't want a fair fight. Awesome. I'd rather it be a glitch.
I’ve been getting NON STOP CORE BROKE since the new schedule dropped Friday. The algo is full on raging. Dropped over 300 elo. Switched up teams, didn’t matter. I went 8/25 and then 9/25. At one point I was 7/30 in a row. It was INSANE. I’m so fuckin sick of it and I’m not playing anymore until they give us a competitive mode.
This guys right me and my son helped each other through these levels and he battled me and I just did great teams he did master 😅 it was actually pretty fun I know I did quite well haha
def get someone like a friend or another person online to battle u with low cp pokemon, many other people might be stuck there too, so they’d also be willing to help u with that task
you can get easy pvp wins for rank 20 just by joining and leaving a bunch of games at the start so you end up getting matched up with players that do the same due to low win rating
6:42 The solution is quite obvious : the server should not send any info to the clients (Pokemon, fast or charged move) until it's used (on a switch or at the end of the shield timer). Of course, this solution would probably imply "some small lags" on some actions (Pokemon switch or charged move resolution) but at least, no cheating would be possible by network packets analysis.
no im quitting because they removed females from the game forced their worldview on everyone, ignored the playerbase (who paid money for years) then blatantly stole everyones location data and sold it all to the highest bidder & proceeded to fill the "game" with advertisements heartbreaking
@@Stand.Your.Ground.The Niantic Sponsored Balloons that force you into AR Mode for said Advertisement, and then a few “””premium””” items (usually Golden Razzes, etc..)
My female alt got changed from white to black clearly niantic forcing a race change no joke this is real happened to others using default character model.
Team Preview was a feature locked from even ranked matches until gen 4 or 5 because the information was so precious, in a game where it's 3v3 with limited switches and timers, that's a game changing cheat that Niantic gives you a free raid pass for you to shut up your mouth.
Coming back from a bad lead. Not giving up! Bam! The perfect match-up. Next charge move I win, I'll get to my move first. Press the charge move button..........wth..........wtf?! Tap tap tap tap..... Phone is frozen!... Game is back, but I lost. Are you serious? Crap happens. Then it happens again, and again, and again. It's clear this is real. I don't even play anymore, and I saw this crap since 2020, 2019. It's bull.
The only thing they give you is a premium pass which is worthless to me. I’ve asked for items like rare candies or TM’s when I have issues because those items are what I was cheated out of but they say they can only give a premium pass which is total bs because I don’t use those nor were they rewards I missed out on. I’ve complained multiple times when I have issues and they always and only give me the premium passes. Niantic instructs their people to give only those premium passes when players complain about issues. Very rare for them to give you anything else.
I just have an issue with the raids in general- During the school year, I’m in college with a solid group of 6-8+ other students who play PoGo daily. During the summer, I’m in the extreme outskirts of a small, rural town 2 hours away from everyone at my university. The closest town to us is a half hour drive, which most days I don’t want to do. Over here, only my mom and I play regularly. This makes it next to impossible to do any raids over 3 stars because there’s just not enough people. With the elite and shadow raids, I can’t do them because you can’t send or receive invites. It’s really frustrating
AK, you might be onto something when you say that Niantic likes to spite the PoGo Community. I kinda got that feeling when they changed the Elite Egg Spawn Time for this current Elite Raid Day from 12 AM to 6 AM. And I think the only reason they did that was because we complained that Mega Rayquaza should’ve been a Raid Day instead of an Elite Raid Day; so they went and took our ability to properly prepare for this event.
I hope people really are dropping this crap. I only get to rank 20 for the resources, then forget about it until the next season, and even then I get to experience some of this last moment freeze BS. What a mess.
I remember when queuing up a battle once they show your opponent you used to be able to hit that surrender button in the top left to make you go back to the previous screen and you could select a different league. Now that surrender button disappears after a few seconds when queuing up for an opponent. This change had something to do be the discord cheat because once they made the change is when people started talking about it.
I just had that game freeze on me in the Go Battle League last night when I started to turn the fight around! That's crazy bro. The freeze frame crap has been happening to me just when I have enough energy to win the battle it's been happening to me for a while now.
The algorithm forces me to 50-52% win no matter what. All my friends too. It literally forces you to have a 50% win rate. There’s no skill, nothing involved. Skill comes into play MAYBE 2-3 out of every 10 battles, on a good day. This game is an absolute wreck. Only good for stacking the dust
Its like, they knew who we had in pvp? And the right pokemon to counter? Say what? Figured it out after the first day playing pvp. They need to just get rid of it. Only for spoofs, and bots to power up accounts to sale anyways. Remove cheaters revenue. Keep real players honest.
Anyone else here had the pvp match start but other player have a bad pokemon match up to yours so game cancels at the start when pokemon revealed and you not get the win when they clearly quit the game?
Had a match yesterday where the opponent seemed to be missing/bugged out, so i went through grinding down their team of 3 tanky pokemons unopposed, until my game froze right before i coud land the finishing blow. At the time i thought it's only fair that i don't get that free win, but now it feels like i simply got toyed with.
I had the issue doing gbl like 2 weeks ago maybe 3 and i got hard counter 5 times in a row the algorithm is bs and its starting to die out because of all the cheaters
I been playing since dec and im already done. Yes there is an algorithm yes ppl cheat and yes the system is buggy af. How can they expect anyone to take pvp seriously?
Spot on you shouldn’t but it is fun but know it’s no skill when it’s algorithm set up… no one ever goes beyond 60% no matter how good they think they are lol
I just quit the game cause MEGA rayquaza raids glitching and in local areas people cant finish the raid with weather boost. GG playing since 2016 and cant take it anymore playing fair....
Thanks for visualising and vocalising what many think. Glad you said about Raid day for Elite. I live rural area and could not get a group together even though there are 132 members in the local campfire group.
I often find myself in unlosable situations, and when the charge move animation should start, the game goes into an idling mode. The camera swaps into charged mode angle, but the only thing that occurs is the loading symbol. It remains this way indefinitely, and among closing the app and returning, you are prompted with a message that the previous battle cannot be recovered. Is there a weird app that emergency brakes the game, so that losses become draws?
only cancels the match when you try to reconnect if you don't the other player cheating gets a free win if you do not disconnect them as well by trying to rejoin
That frozen game thing happens to me soooo often. I’ll be a move away from winning and it freezes. Also everytime I’m on a long win streak I get five straight impossible match’s. Achieved legend when I was nowhere near as good as I am now. Now every season I hang around high 50% win rate. Now I just play weird shiny lineups and don’t care.
This has happened to me loads too, many a time I've got to 3,4 or 5 wins and then I get a match that freezes or errors just as I finish or thought I'm gunna win - I just thought it was a game fault or glitch
I started tanking this season. Never going back. No lag, no weak connection, no missing bubbles, no freezing. Im really convinced its all cheats now. And as a big bonus Im getting mad rare candies
@@bittersweetygo6114 join game leave at start keeping doing reduces win rating then go for wins easy way for even new players to get rank 20 or do all their wins for the timed pvp research
I don’t play it often. I use to for the elite tms. But after years of playing I got enough now to just never wanna PvP again lol. That’s what money can buy I guess some peace.
Using shadow alola marowak as lead and im still remember the lead that i face Dewgong, jellicent, altaria, alola sandslash and medicham, (only win 3 of 5) im also paired with shadow dragonair before we got disconnected
Yeah the pvp algorithm is crazy, I tried to push past level 20 last season and when I got serious... so did some of the lag moments. 😅 also screw elite raids, if you're going to make them that much harder and more complicated to coordinate.. at least Increase the shiny odds?!
The move change hardly makes any difference. All the new ones get tried out at low levels, but as soon as they get to 21, plus it's the same teams all time. And even if they manage to sort all the cheating out, pvp will never be down to skill as long as they have moves with random buffs and de buffs.
@@kingvegeta7868yes. Since legendaries are so expensive to build. 100k dust for a second move plus 296 xl candy and almost a million dust to get it to level 50.
You are a hundred percent correct on all that man and niantic is trying everything they can to un-alive pokemon go and move people to the games that they own 100% of the rights too it’s sad to think about and to just see the pure greed coming from that company
I was crazy in love with this game until they ruined it by nerfing the incense and doubling remote raid passes. Now I play for online friends and trading. It's sad because I truly miss raiding and online raiding communities. My interest in the game now is so low that it's almost a chore.
Wow wtf thanks for letting everyone know. Why i stopped go battle like a month ago everyone magicaly had super effective moves against all my pokemon... strange makese sense tho
I feel like the go battle league would be fair, worth doing, and fun if they matched you with your opponent and then both parties pick their teams. I get that would take more time to ready up the battle, but id rather wait for my opponent to pick a team and it be random and fair than waste my time losing 45% of my battles due to an unfair system based on moves and types that can make you lose or guarantee a win when it wants you to.
Besides spoofing, you should call out poke maps, they allow you to completely ruin pokestop showcases and also give a massive GBL advantage, even help with very rare shinies such as looking for female combees.
Figured half the "lag" incidents were not real accidents, when you have a perfect internet connection. Its why i don't bother with GBL unless it requires me to play, and even then i prefer to throw the fight with 10cp pokemon.
Niantic stopped caring a long time ago. We should have all seen in it coming when they fired over 100 employees maybe if they didn't we wouldn't have so much bugs and glitches. They got rid of silphroad. The battle league been buggy ever since they did the background changes and still have yet to fix it because there top content creators don't speak up and keeps quiet rn because it's go fest season and they say one thing bad or degrading them they will probably lose there sponsorship and to be able to go to there events and what not who knows. But it's just crazy how battle league content creators aren't even speaking up besides a couple. That's why nothing gets done and Niantic won't listen. I feel like they are either focusing on a newer game and that's why pokemon go been blah or come bonkers events then there are people are praise Niantic and there faults because they think they are going to be somewhat noticed by them when likely Niantic doesn't give a shit about you just that $. They wanted in person but yet still no one cares and yet they brought out the most this game was highly against. Spoofing that's what Niantic has lead people to do and I'm a legit player I don't ever see people out walking about or even doing raids but yet there are tons of pokemon in gyms my pokemon are being knocked out when nobody is there. The zygarde is kinda ridiculous too when your not guranteed a cell but need 250 cells just to evolve. Just became becoming more of a hassle then fun. Then they destroyed remote raid community but then want people to do remote raids on big events like go fest and raid days and such then they want to promote remote raiding but then people fall for it and fall right into niantic Palms then they wana defend niantic again as if the game great when really its in shambles.
I’m not even sure that the lagging is caused by your opponent… I am starting to think that is Niantic’s way of manipulating outcomes of matches. The reason I believe it is Niantic doing it because I’ve also been on the other end of it many times where I was losing badly and my opponent was going to win easily but all of the sudden they are getting the terrible lag and I’m able to get a victory when I should have lost being that I was hard countered. So this lag only happens to people that are winning and should get the victory but I’ve also experienced it where I was getting hard countered and losing badly and my opponent starts getting the lag. I know a lot of y’all probably have encountered this lag and lost because of it but I know that you all have also benefited from it and have won matches because your opponent started lagging when they had you beat but you get the victory because they lagged. This tells me it is Niantic doing this to manipulate outcomes of battles. The lag only happens to people that are winning the battle and never happens to the person that is losing.
I go against so many cheaters it's unreal like I'll lose 6 games a day just from cheaters mostly because there using 4 shields and if I somehow win still the game freezes and they still win
Everyone quit where i live since last year with the RR nerf and assume with all qol taken away since covid. (Imo it was amazing through covid) incense worked and could play from home. I dont honestly care who disagrees but it was more fun playing from home. Just having that option. I dont blame people spoofing as its just not worth going out walking spawns are shit! Same old crap and lack of spawns. Ive sat outside after catching whatever and waiting on next mons too spawn is shit. Its what made quit its boring as hell. If mons respawned faster it wouldnt be so bad
yea i Agree with what you said for the mega Requaza even So I got a shiny 100. I. V of him, my buddy, that is a couple states away. I had no one doing them around him, so I have to save him 1 because he simply couldn't do it Because no one around him was. which was not fair at all, should have been able to remote raid it. at the very least with how desirable he is
ever encounter going against someone with 3 shields.. was told by support it was due to lag on my end.. but i was at home with full 5g and home net... gg.
I know these will never happen but I think this game should have a single player mode. What I mean by that if you choose to do so you can play the game without going outside. I know this is against whole point of pokemon go but i think it should be beneficial for legit players as well. You might think why would anyone play legit than, just make playing legit it 3x more rewarding(or nerf spoofing rewards like 3x distance for eggs, 1/3 stardust from everything etc) and don't let "spoofers" to compete in GBL(since we are imagining, give them a seperate queue if you want). This would create a big surge of players returning to the game because now everyone will be able to do the raids. I can't do any raids without paying for remote raid pass and hoping someone invites me. There is no one playing in my city and it is the biggest city in my country. How am I supposed to get a Dialga by myself yet alone max it out? This is the reason I quit because I can't participate in one of the most importants aspects of the game which I care. There are tons of bugs and problems in GBL which should be fixed but I don't see any problem with the algorithm. You have to have an algorithm and when you go up in the ranks there is like not enough players to run a good algorithm you just match with who is available, which is imo worse. People want random matching so they are not screwed by algorithm but I am sure they wont like the random matching either(random matching is still an algorithm in computer sense). Imagine getting 10 steel leads back to back against your fairy since it is random, would you be happier? I agree with any solution that reduces randomness like show 6 pick 3, but having an algorithm to match players is a must and I have no problem with it, since it applies to everyone. Do you really wanna get a match against someone with 300 elo and 500cp pokemon in great league? No I want to compete against people with equal skill and knowledge and due to game design some matches will be more favorable for one of the parties, that is the fact. I need an algorithm to match me with correct people and if I am getting a good luck someone would be getting bad luck at the same time, it is how it works. It is not algorithms fault that your team is triple weak to my lead, you should be glad that algorithm shown you your weakness.
Have any of you guys always been getting a bad lead? All my battles always bad lead no matter what pokemon I use they already have a pokemon counter first
Niantic does not care they want that data and party play just makes them tons of data sales spoofing is only thing going on in pogo unless big city got few players
I love battle league and i can barely play it due to horrendous lag and dumb frame drops ive lost 3 in a row because of it one battle i couldnt even tap my screen it was frozen but my oppoent having a field day before you know i have two pokemon fainted and then they have there pokemon fully charged. Then i just back out. The algo is definitely real.
I think they are done. Looks like no human beings exist in their customer “service” at this point either. Blanket spam replies across the board, often irrelevant to the question or complaint. Suggest everyone quit and enjoy their summer life is too short!
you can tank your win rating by leaving at start then going for wins for the rewards and to get wins for rank 20 or to do timed pvp research so cheating pretty pointless unless going past rank 20 but people most likely going to report you so do not cheat on main account
Honestly the worst part is that we all want to love this game, but we can't due to Niantic not caring.
THIS
Please speak for yourself myself and many others DO love this game
@@bobbyrdayton9866 ture, we all feel different about the current state of the game.
literally bro… game is not even worth playing if you live ina place like I do
I met a Niantic developer at the Google Next conference as they are also a GCP user. Talking with a dev, they said it’s a soul crushing job.
Lots of technical debt they have to clean up and you have a player base that dislikes you as you just try to keep the game running as people leave. (ie the more developer leave the more pressure it puts on the team and the more people leave… it’s a vicious cycle)
So yeah after talking to the dev, I now have a different viewpoint on the game.
If you are cheating in a Pokemon game you need to take a good look in the mirror. What a joke.
well its more of cheating in PVP in general
Some people can’t play the game as intended because of Niantic’s poor game design in terms of pokestop and gyms. I don’t blame some people for cheating/spoofing because it’s almost impossible for them to play the game otherwise. That’s the only way certain people can actually enjoy the game. Sorry you prolly live in a city with many stops and gyms- some people aren’t as lucky. Instead of complaining like a little b!tch, maybe put your shoes and perspective on other plays in the game. I’m a P2W player so idgaf about this, I care about my friends who don’t have the financial ability to “play” the game long term
Nah, cheating isnt bad. I mean, its not everywhere that people can go walking outside. So take a good look in the mirror
@@pedrogomespg.5882 wow such a great comment. Typical lefty response. Cheating in ANY aspect of life is lame. If you support it then you’re a fucking tool.
People on eBay run a PVP service. They could be doing it for their customers
Imagine the increase in interest in GBL if they switched to a show 6, pick 3 model
It'd eliminate a lot of the potential manipulation and it's more in line with tournament play
It's an obvious solution so they probably won't do it
It would be AMAZING!! Even just a competitive and for fun mode would be awesome. With no algo on the competitive line.
“It’s an obvious solution so they probably won’t do it” 😂😂 facts
they should add support moves too like helping hand or terrain or weather moves, put them on a few pokemon and we can then have team archetypes, you would be able to focus your team of 3 on a certain type with less drawbacks
Imagine if they let you pick from competitive to casual. Imagine if they had all the leagues and then added filtered leagues
The algo is bullshit. It should have categories. I either complete open with no matchmaking and then the other algorithm style.
I wish they would but I highly doubt it, it's all about equity now weird characters everyone wins and looses. I hate equity
I'm happy for it, makes the game a challenge nothing else in pogo is... I'm sure there is a algorithm, but I go on discord everyday and I've asked many times and no one runs into this every game hard counter crap and I never have either
Hilarious I gotta be force to lose a whole set after winning 3 or 6 times is very obvious it’s infuriating predicting the counters
Hate when they hack for 1 or 2 sec knowing that my pokemon charges up faster than theirs, just so they can get their attack off before mine.
Ok, that lag hack happened to me a few times yesterday and I thought "Oh great. A new glitch." Now I know that someone didn't want a fair fight. Awesome. I'd rather it be a glitch.
I’ve been getting NON STOP CORE BROKE since the new schedule dropped Friday. The algo is full on raging. Dropped over 300 elo. Switched up teams, didn’t matter. I went 8/25 and then 9/25. At one point I was 7/30 in a row. It was INSANE. I’m so fuckin sick of it and I’m not playing anymore until they give us a competitive mode.
I absolutely hate pvp, which is why I’ll forever be stuck at level 43. 😭
Me to hate Go battle league
You just gotta play 20 games of gbl the other task you can battle a friend with 10cp mons or just have them quit the games
This guys right me and my son helped each other through these levels and he battled me and I just did great teams he did master 😅 it was actually pretty fun I know I did quite well haha
def get someone like a friend or another person online to battle u with low cp pokemon, many other people might be stuck there too, so they’d also be willing to help u with that task
you can get easy pvp wins for rank 20 just by joining and leaving a bunch of games at the start so you end up getting matched up with players that do the same due to low win rating
6:42 The solution is quite obvious : the server should not send any info to the clients (Pokemon, fast or charged move) until it's used (on a switch or at the end of the shield timer). Of course, this solution would probably imply "some small lags" on some actions (Pokemon switch or charged move resolution) but at least, no cheating would be possible by network packets analysis.
no im quitting because they removed females from the game
forced their worldview on everyone, ignored the playerbase (who paid money for years)
then blatantly stole everyones location data and sold it all to the highest bidder &
proceeded to fill the "game" with advertisements
heartbreaking
What advertisements?
@@Stand.Your.Ground. probably means the balloons with items that pop up but I honestly don't find them too annoying
@@Stand.Your.Ground.The Niantic Sponsored Balloons that force you into AR Mode for said Advertisement, and then a few “””premium””” items (usually Golden Razzes, etc..)
My female alt got changed from white to black clearly niantic forcing a race change no joke this is real happened to others using default character model.
lol im shadowbanned again 😂
i cant see your likes or replies
Orwellian nightmare
Team Preview was a feature locked from even ranked matches until gen 4 or 5 because the information was so precious, in a game where it's 3v3 with limited switches and timers, that's a game changing cheat that Niantic gives you a free raid pass for you to shut up your mouth.
Yeah that random lag when I’m about to win is getting a little out of hand this season.
Coming back from a bad lead. Not giving up! Bam! The perfect match-up. Next charge move I win, I'll get to my move first. Press the charge move button..........wth..........wtf?! Tap tap tap tap.....
Phone is frozen!...
Game is back, but I lost. Are you serious? Crap happens.
Then it happens again, and again, and again. It's clear this is real. I don't even play anymore, and I saw this crap since 2020, 2019. It's bull.
Happens to me all the time, I make sure I have perfect reception and it still happens, it's garbage
Sometimes that's them hitting they're charge first but it's mostly what you said lol I get cheated like that alot
If you guys get a recording of you guys freezing. Get a support ticket and they will either give you pokecoins or a premium pass🙏
why would they give either
would only get a pass if lose it in a raid
@@basillah7650 they give you a raid pass or coins as compensation
The only thing they give you is a premium pass which is worthless to me. I’ve asked for items like rare candies or TM’s when I have issues because those items are what I was cheated out of but they say they can only give a premium pass which is total bs because I don’t use those nor were they rewards I missed out on. I’ve complained multiple times when I have issues and they always and only give me the premium passes. Niantic instructs their people to give only those premium passes when players complain about issues. Very rare for them to give you anything else.
Ohhhhh i have so many lol
I just have an issue with the raids in general-
During the school year, I’m in college with a solid group of 6-8+ other students who play PoGo daily.
During the summer, I’m in the extreme outskirts of a small, rural town 2 hours away from everyone at my university. The closest town to us is a half hour drive, which most days I don’t want to do. Over here, only my mom and I play regularly.
This makes it next to impossible to do any raids over 3 stars because there’s just not enough people. With the elite and shadow raids, I can’t do them because you can’t send or receive invites. It’s really frustrating
AK, you might be onto something when you say that Niantic likes to spite the PoGo Community.
I kinda got that feeling when they changed the Elite Egg Spawn Time for this current Elite Raid Day from 12 AM to 6 AM.
And I think the only reason they did that was because we complained that Mega Rayquaza should’ve been a Raid Day instead of an Elite Raid Day; so they went and took our ability to properly prepare for this event.
I hope people really are dropping this crap. I only get to rank 20 for the resources, then forget about it until the next season, and even then I get to experience some of this last moment freeze BS. What a mess.
I remember when queuing up a battle once they show your opponent you used to be able to hit that surrender button in the top left to make you go back to the previous screen and you could select a different league. Now that surrender button disappears after a few seconds when queuing up for an opponent.
This change had something to do be the discord cheat because once they made the change is when people started talking about it.
did Niantic make the game? why they not care about this game anymore
I know right and it’s clearly the best one they have,
Comes down to greed if I’m honest and we all see it!
So many bugs it's brought the game down
I just had that game freeze on me in the Go Battle League last night when I started to turn the fight around! That's crazy bro. The freeze frame crap has been happening to me just when I have enough energy to win the battle it's been happening to me for a while now.
There were a few times when I had a good lead, then immediately the game showed "error" and i had to find a match again. Definitely not a coincidence!
Ong I just punched a whole in the wall 5 mins ago playing gbl
I’ve been there before brotha 🤜 better a wall than a living being
My phone is cracked
#OneShadowClawAway #ThereWasNoWayHeSwappedOut #IEvenWaitedATurn #IWishTheFistThatJustHitMyPhoneCouldHitYou #ShawnMichael’sfootNeedsToMeetYourFace
The whole wall ?? Not just part?
I've broken 2 phones with gbl😂
The algorithm forces me to 50-52% win no matter what. All my friends too. It literally forces you to have a 50% win rate. There’s no skill, nothing involved. Skill comes into play MAYBE 2-3 out of every 10 battles, on a good day. This game is an absolute wreck. Only good for stacking the dust
Its like, they knew who we had in pvp? And the right pokemon to counter? Say what? Figured it out after the first day playing pvp. They need to just get rid of it. Only for spoofs, and bots to power up accounts to sale anyways. Remove cheaters revenue. Keep real players honest.
Anyone else here had the pvp match start but other player have a bad pokemon match up to yours so game cancels at the start when pokemon revealed and you not get the win when they clearly quit the game?
Had a match yesterday where the opponent seemed to be missing/bugged out, so i went through grinding down their team of 3 tanky pokemons unopposed, until my game froze right before i coud land the finishing blow. At the time i thought it's only fair that i don't get that free win, but now it feels like i simply got toyed with.
That’s happened to me a few months ago. It was so confusing
The second kind of cheating is the reason I uninstalled pokemon go for few months.... 6 months later , it's still happening
I had the issue doing gbl like 2 weeks ago maybe 3 and i got hard counter 5 times in a row the algorithm is bs and its starting to die out because of all the cheaters
I get lag switched on every 5th game in the ace ranked league, it's painful to play through!
I been playing since dec and im already done. Yes there is an algorithm yes ppl cheat and yes the system is buggy af. How can they expect anyone to take pvp seriously?
Spot on you shouldn’t but it is fun but know it’s no skill when it’s algorithm set up… no one ever goes beyond 60% no matter how good they think they are lol
I just quit the game cause MEGA rayquaza raids glitching and in local areas people cant finish the raid with weather boost. GG playing since 2016 and cant take it anymore playing fair....
How can they see what team the other people have??? Do they do this through a public API??
Spoofing for pvp perfects doesn’t matter if you can’t get the timing right for switches/ don’t have the correct move sets 😉
Thanks for visualising and vocalising what many think. Glad you said about Raid day for Elite. I live rural area and could not get a group together even though there are 132 members in the local campfire group.
I used to do go battle league but don't anymore it's not worth the frustration of watching cheaters!!!
Could you do another expose on how exactly people are causing the game to freeze if they're losing a GBL battle?
easy lag/disconnect on their end but they still getting moves off so you cannot do anything but they can
I often find myself in unlosable situations, and when the charge move animation should start, the game goes into an idling mode.
The camera swaps into charged mode angle, but the only thing that occurs is the loading symbol. It remains this way indefinitely, and among closing the app and returning, you are prompted with a message that the previous battle cannot be recovered.
Is there a weird app that emergency brakes the game, so that losses become draws?
only cancels the match when you try to reconnect if you don't the other player cheating gets a free win if you do not disconnect them as well by trying to rejoin
@@basillah7650 Nothing like this ever occurs when I am losing, which makes me think something is deliberately causing this regular occurrence.
That frozen game thing happens to me soooo often. I’ll be a move away from winning and it freezes. Also everytime I’m on a long win streak I get five straight impossible match’s. Achieved legend when I was nowhere near as good as I am now. Now every season I hang around high 50% win rate. Now I just play weird shiny lineups and don’t care.
The time i press the button for a charge and damage my oponent but the charge is never delivered...but my opponents is delivered and lost again🤯🤢🤮
14 seconds is crazy
I noticed the freezing in battles too. Thought it was me. 😢
This has happened to me loads too, many a time I've got to 3,4 or 5 wins and then I get a match that freezes or errors just as I finish or thought I'm gunna win - I just thought it was a game fault or glitch
I started tanking this season. Never going back. No lag, no weak connection, no missing bubbles, no freezing. Im really convinced its all cheats now. And as a big bonus Im getting mad rare candies
How u mean that? Just tanky pokes?
@@bittersweetygo6114 join game leave at start keeping doing reduces win rating then go for wins easy way for even new players to get rank 20 or do all their wins for the timed pvp research
@bittersweetygo6114 I think they mean losing on purpose so they get easier battles so they can get more rare candies
I don’t play it often. I use to for the elite tms. But after years of playing I got enough now to just never wanna PvP again lol. That’s what money can buy I guess some peace.
The game freezing has been done to me in that exact same situation numerous times. Had no idea it could be a cheat and the game just sucked ass.
Using shadow alola marowak as lead and im still remember the lead that i face
Dewgong, jellicent, altaria, alola sandslash and medicham, (only win 3 of 5) im also paired with shadow dragonair before we got disconnected
I see lag when a 5 vs 7 turn moves, Niantic needs to fix discord move scopers
TOS is why only i would not, cheating cheaters
Yeah the pvp algorithm is crazy, I tried to push past level 20 last season and when I got serious... so did some of the lag moments. 😅 also screw elite raids, if you're going to make them that much harder and more complicated to coordinate.. at least Increase the shiny odds?!
Algorithm is real.
The move change hardly makes any difference. All the new ones get tried out at low levels, but as soon as they get to 21, plus it's the same teams all time.
And even if they manage to sort all the cheating out, pvp will never be down to skill as long as they have moves with random buffs and de buffs.
I’m prolly gonna just hit ace and stop next season.
Speaking of algo, no joke, the ad on this video was a GBL Ad talking about yhe global leaderboard 😂
I just got a 15/15/13 ho oh. Is it worth powering up?
Thats not too bad but I'd wait until after it leaves raids
@@Giratina575 basically if i dont get a hundo or shundo then power it up?
@@kingvegeta7868yes. Since legendaries are so expensive to build. 100k dust for a second move plus 296 xl candy and almost a million dust to get it to level 50.
You are a hundred percent correct on all that man and niantic is trying everything they can to un-alive pokemon go and move people to the games that they own 100% of the rights too it’s sad to think about and to just see the pure greed coming from that company
We should bring a class action lawsuit against Niantic for the algorithm.
I was crazy in love with this game until they ruined it by nerfing the incense and doubling remote raid passes. Now I play for online friends and trading. It's sad because I truly miss raiding and online raiding communities. My interest in the game now is so low that it's almost a chore.
Wow wtf thanks for letting everyone know. Why i stopped go battle like a month ago everyone magicaly had super effective moves against all my pokemon... strange makese sense tho
I feel like the go battle league would be fair, worth doing, and fun if they matched you with your opponent and then both parties pick their teams. I get that would take more time to ready up the battle, but id rather wait for my opponent to pick a team and it be random and fair than waste my time losing 45% of my battles due to an unfair system based on moves and types that can make you lose or guarantee a win when it wants you to.
Besides spoofing, you should call out poke maps, they allow you to completely ruin pokestop showcases and also give a massive GBL advantage, even help with very rare shinies such as looking for female combees.
Figured half the "lag" incidents were not real accidents, when you have a perfect internet connection. Its why i don't bother with GBL unless it requires me to play, and even then i prefer to throw the fight with 10cp pokemon.
if they added the affect of having 6 mon vs 6 mon and you pick 3 it would be better.
Niantic stopped caring a long time ago. We should have all seen in it coming when they fired over 100 employees maybe if they didn't we wouldn't have so much bugs and glitches. They got rid of silphroad. The battle league been buggy ever since they did the background changes and still have yet to fix it because there top content creators don't speak up and keeps quiet rn because it's go fest season and they say one thing bad or degrading them they will probably lose there sponsorship and to be able to go to there events and what not who knows. But it's just crazy how battle league content creators aren't even speaking up besides a couple. That's why nothing gets done and Niantic won't listen. I feel like they are either focusing on a newer game and that's why pokemon go been blah or come bonkers events then there are people are praise Niantic and there faults because they think they are going to be somewhat noticed by them when likely Niantic doesn't give a shit about you just that $. They wanted in person but yet still no one cares and yet they brought out the most this game was highly against. Spoofing that's what Niantic has lead people to do and I'm a legit player I don't ever see people out walking about or even doing raids but yet there are tons of pokemon in gyms my pokemon are being knocked out when nobody is there. The zygarde is kinda ridiculous too when your not guranteed a cell but need 250 cells just to evolve. Just became becoming more of a hassle then fun. Then they destroyed remote raid community but then want people to do remote raids on big events like go fest and raid days and such then they want to promote remote raiding but then people fall for it and fall right into niantic Palms then they wana defend niantic again as if the game great when really its in shambles.
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I’m not even sure that the lagging is caused by your opponent… I am starting to think that is Niantic’s way of manipulating outcomes of matches. The reason I believe it is Niantic doing it because I’ve also been on the other end of it many times where I was losing badly and my opponent was going to win easily but all of the sudden they are getting the terrible lag and I’m able to get a victory when I should have lost being that I was hard countered. So this lag only happens to people that are winning and should get the victory but I’ve also experienced it where I was getting hard countered and losing badly and my opponent starts getting the lag. I know a lot of y’all probably have encountered this lag and lost because of it but I know that you all have also benefited from it and have won matches because your opponent started lagging when they had you beat but you get the victory because they lagged.
This tells me it is Niantic doing this to manipulate outcomes of battles. The lag only happens to people that are winning the battle and never happens to the person that is losing.
I got everything and every time I switch I get crazy countered
it should be random for pvp like other games out there!
This whole morning this game has been lagging and freezing.
I go against so many cheaters it's unreal like I'll lose 6 games a day just from cheaters mostly because there using 4 shields and if I somehow win still the game freezes and they still win
Everyone quit where i live since last year with the RR nerf and assume with all qol taken away since covid. (Imo it was amazing through covid) incense worked and could play from home.
I dont honestly care who disagrees but it was more fun playing from home. Just having that option. I dont blame people spoofing as its just not worth going out walking spawns are shit! Same old crap and lack of spawns. Ive sat outside after catching whatever and waiting on next mons too spawn is shit. Its what made quit its boring as hell. If mons respawned faster it wouldnt be so bad
Hey Poke AK love your vids! ❤
Just a comment to help you out, it's "I couldn't care less" not "could care less".
I am getting of the pokemon PVP of teams with 40000+ maxed legendary pokemon i almost every battle!
almost lost to a waterfall gyarados with outrage last night
Crazy how bad it is
yea i Agree with what you said for the mega Requaza even So I got a shiny 100. I. V of him, my buddy, that is a couple states away. I had no one doing them around him, so I have to save him 1 because he simply couldn't do it Because no one around him was. which was not fair at all, should have been able to remote raid
it. at the very least with how desirable he is
I run into the lag thing a lot.
ever encounter going against someone with 3 shields.. was told by support it was due to lag on my end.. but i was at home with full 5g and home net... gg.
niantic end not counting a shield other player uses
A FEWS OF US ARE DOING THE SAME..
I know these will never happen but I think this game should have a single player mode. What I mean by that if you choose to do so you can play the game without going outside. I know this is against whole point of pokemon go but i think it should be beneficial for legit players as well. You might think why would anyone play legit than, just make playing legit it 3x more rewarding(or nerf spoofing rewards like 3x distance for eggs, 1/3 stardust from everything etc) and don't let "spoofers" to compete in GBL(since we are imagining, give them a seperate queue if you want). This would create a big surge of players returning to the game because now everyone will be able to do the raids. I can't do any raids without paying for remote raid pass and hoping someone invites me. There is no one playing in my city and it is the biggest city in my country. How am I supposed to get a Dialga by myself yet alone max it out? This is the reason I quit because I can't participate in one of the most importants aspects of the game which I care.
There are tons of bugs and problems in GBL which should be fixed but I don't see any problem with the algorithm. You have to have an algorithm and when you go up in the ranks there is like not enough players to run a good algorithm you just match with who is available, which is imo worse. People want random matching so they are not screwed by algorithm but I am sure they wont like the random matching either(random matching is still an algorithm in computer sense). Imagine getting 10 steel leads back to back against your fairy since it is random, would you be happier?
I agree with any solution that reduces randomness like show 6 pick 3, but having an algorithm to match players is a must and I have no problem with it, since it applies to everyone. Do you really wanna get a match against someone with 300 elo and 500cp pokemon in great league? No I want to compete against people with equal skill and knowledge and due to game design some matches will be more favorable for one of the parties, that is the fact. I need an algorithm to match me with correct people and if I am getting a good luck someone would be getting bad luck at the same time, it is how it works. It is not algorithms fault that your team is triple weak to my lead, you should be glad that algorithm shown you your weakness.
Have any of you guys always been getting a bad lead? All my battles always bad lead no matter what pokemon I use they already have a pokemon counter first
Ahhh yes, the typhlosion being named after me is pretty nice. Thank you
Yo I've been watching you for years poke and can't believe i made it in you video. I'm at 1:25 and lost lol. Good battle 👊🏿
Niantic does not care they want that data and party play just makes them tons of data sales spoofing is only thing going on in pogo unless big city got few players
I love battle league and i can barely play it due to horrendous lag and dumb frame drops ive lost 3 in a row because of it one battle i couldnt even tap my screen it was frozen but my oppoent having a field day before you know i have two pokemon fainted and then they have there pokemon fully charged. Then i just back out. The algo is definitely real.
I think they are done. Looks like no human beings exist in their customer “service” at this point either. Blanket spam replies across the board, often irrelevant to the question or complaint. Suggest everyone quit and enjoy their summer life is too short!
I have tried looking for the discord cheat and i cant find it. Let me know if someone can help. Other then that i think that cheat is dead.
you can tank your win rating by leaving at start then going for wins for the rewards and to get wins for rank 20 or to do timed pvp research so cheating pretty pointless unless going past rank 20 but people most likely going to report you so do not cheat on main account
Perfect analogy 😅 100% correct
I quit gbl all together when we had events for gbl I would do it but I haven't been in gbl at all the season and I don't regret it
you can tank your win rating by leaving at start then going for wins for the rewards and to get wins for rank 20 or to do timed pvp research
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Quiting because PvP is bad is hilarious. Maybe just dont do competetive in Pokemon games because its worthless
People are allowed to express their opinions ya troll 🧌 say hi to mommy from your basement for me 😂 🤡
Well they just fixed spoofing basically except for rooted devices but are not fixing any discord cheats.
Hey! That's unfair! I didn't quit because of the cheating and the algorithm. I never started because of cheating and the algorithm.
Did you saw you can now appeal for your rejected routes and reactivate it...a word to the wise!
Yea I haven't logged in over 2 years. I miss it
Verlisify is crying tears of joy lol
I havent played Pokemon Go in almost years now, just checking the video out because I used to like you and wanted to send love.
Can I just have AI to complete all my battles? :D
I’ve had the same spoofers in my community since 2016😂
That's the reason why there are so many Legend players.... I struggle to reach Veteran while noobs be chillin on their cheats on Legend
Goodness that pogo player name "the futanarigod" 💀