Titanic History/What happened to Titanic Stern after the sinking, why is it in such bad shape today?

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  • In this video we talk about what happened to the stern of the Titanic during the sinking, and why is it in such worse shape when compared to that of the bow.

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  • @a_literal_brick
    @a_literal_brick Před 3 lety +796

    The two halves of Titanic had a toxic relationship. The bow caused all of the problems, but the stern suffered the most after the breakup

    • @MegaTubetraveller
      @MegaTubetraveller Před 2 lety +41

      Titanic is the symbol of all our life.

    • @wilhufftarkin8543
      @wilhufftarkin8543 Před 2 lety +49

      The stern had high ambitions and wanted to reach to the stars, but the bow couldn't handle it and had to drag the stern down.

    • @8830wjs
      @8830wjs Před 2 lety +10

      i see what you did there

    • @JessicaDurman
      @JessicaDurman Před 2 lety +5

      I'd have to agree, a little bit.

    • @ashtondoublet8334
      @ashtondoublet8334 Před 2 lety +11

      That analogy is morbidly great. 😅

  • @runawaysmudger7181
    @runawaysmudger7181 Před 3 lety +169

    Similar thing happened to the Lusitania. The ship was flooding so rapidly that the rest of the ship just dropped into the ocean while it's still full of air then the water gushed into the funnels, sucking people down with it trying to fill the huge empty void inside the ship and geysers erupted from the wreck from the air trying to escape

    • @jarrodbushyhead6928
      @jarrodbushyhead6928 Před 3 lety +11

      Also the Lusitania wreck is almost unrecognizable since it’s been used at target practice I heard

    • @Tempusverum
      @Tempusverum Před 3 lety +13

      @@jarrodbushyhead6928 that’s too bad. There’s lots of valuable artifacts in Lusitania

    • @jarrodbushyhead6928
      @jarrodbushyhead6928 Před 3 lety +9

      @@Tempusverum I agree but for some reason they decided to use it as target practice for submarines. So it’s pretty much unrecognizable

    • @jarrodbushyhead6928
      @jarrodbushyhead6928 Před 3 lety +13

      @@Tempusverum brittanic is in good condition for its age

    • @aegonthedragon7303
      @aegonthedragon7303 Před 2 lety +5

      It also has to do with the way she landed. TLDR: Lusy is peeling herself apart and will soon be nothing but a steel pancake. During John Light’s dives in the 60’s, her structure was worn but still recognizable, with funnels still present too. It was by 1993 when Bob Ballard and crew dived that the ship took on its iconic look. She actually broke in two places and since the water was shallower than the ship, with her also going 20 knots, she hit hard and warped. Due to currents and fatigue on the steel, she is working herself apart.

  • @billhowe4863
    @billhowe4863 Před 3 lety +76

    Another overlooked reason for the stern implosion is the refrigeration equipment was all in the stern

    • @ninjaked1265
      @ninjaked1265 Před 3 lety

      @Danger Bear doubt it

    • @ryans9029
      @ryans9029 Před 3 lety +3

      Refrigerators were not water tight or air tight. Absolutely no implosion risk. They were also not pressure vessels.
      No Implosion is possible.

  • @TheBrister
    @TheBrister Před 3 lety +165

    Pretty wild that the stern implosion could be heard by survivors considering there were 1500 people screaming for their lives at the spot where the ship went down.

    • @Chicag0_G_StaT88
      @Chicag0_G_StaT88 Před 3 lety +2

      🤔

    • @taraswertelecki3786
      @taraswertelecki3786 Před 3 lety +55

      Ships make incredibly loud, horrible sounds that can be heard for miles when they break apart then sink. Even as they fall to the sea floor, they continue to make loud sounds.

    • @connorredshaw7994
      @connorredshaw7994 Před 2 lety +12

      Jeff Brister I don't think all 1,500 were screaming in the water maybe at least 1,100/1,200 were on the surface fighting to stay afloat/alive where at least a couple to a few hundred were still on the ship many on the lower decks mainly third class and the many brave men who were in the boiler and engine rooms trying to keep the power going right up until the very end.

    • @TheLeathlobhair
      @TheLeathlobhair Před 2 lety +6

      There is a saying that big ships are very noisy when they sink. The Empire State Building in New York is often the size comparison, so imagine that in water, on its side, sinking by one end. That's a lot of material, and it will make a lot of noise.

    • @Drobium77
      @Drobium77 Před 2 lety +4

      @@connorredshaw7994 I can imagine that it was a moaning at most, people back then had sensibilities which would stop them even in death from complaining. I wish it were true now

  • @JLCosslett
    @JLCosslett Před 3 lety +94

    That must have been terrifying to hear the implosion...

    • @the_rover1
      @the_rover1 Před 3 lety +18

      additional to pitch darkness on surface, I guess it was terrifying!

    • @ApocResidence
      @ApocResidence Před 3 lety +26

      It had to be even more terrifying for those who was still in the ship when it happened.

    • @CaelanWrig21
      @CaelanWrig21 Před 3 lety

      @@ApocResidence or did it split when it was above water it might've split to the pressure under the water

    • @ApocResidence
      @ApocResidence Před 3 lety +8

      @@CaelanWrig21
      Above, below, Either way. The thought of knowing you are about to die in pitch dark water and knowing there's nothing you can do about it is extremely terrifying. That's one of the worse ways to go...

    • @CaelanWrig21
      @CaelanWrig21 Před 3 lety

      @@ApocResidence true

  • @lwv6966
    @lwv6966 Před 2 lety +26

    I've heard the theory many times that when Titanic's hull split apart she was still connected at the keel. That would explain the stern falling back, then rising again suddenly until nearly perpendicular, when the keel broke away. (A keel section of the ship has been found at the site, intact, comprising the full width of the ship and nearly 90 feet long) the bow pulled the stern down until the separation, when the stern settled back and rotated away

  • @jonahprescott8378
    @jonahprescott8378 Před 3 lety +154

    Could you make a video about the Hindenburg airship?

    • @thedavidjwschmidt
      @thedavidjwschmidt Před 3 lety +10

      Ken Marschall and Rick Archbold published a great book about the Hindenburg in 1994 - Amazon hasone paperback for $3.83.

    • @Tempusverum
      @Tempusverum Před 3 lety +4

      For being as dangerous as it was, it’s amazing that 80% of passengers survived the Hindenburg

    • @titangamingbot2521
      @titangamingbot2521 Před 3 lety

      @@Tempusverum ikr

    • @TruthRISING2024
      @TruthRISING2024 Před 3 lety

      @@Tempusverum huh? I think it was more like 96 aboard 37 died. That’s damn near half.

    • @tyront1030
      @tyront1030 Před 3 lety

      NO

  • @dattatreya4448
    @dattatreya4448 Před 3 lety +111

    This channel is super under-rated:(

    • @HistoricTravels
      @HistoricTravels  Před 3 lety +39

      Thank You! Its really hard to grow on youtube in 2020, especially if you are new to the platform. Every single one of you help out a lot and thank you!

    • @michaellang3311
      @michaellang3311 Před 3 lety +3

      definetly agreed

    • @ghosty3034
      @ghosty3034 Před 3 lety +3

      @@HistoricTravels true

    • @Rose19127
      @Rose19127 Před 4 měsíci

      ​@@HistoricTravelsNew subscriber here !! subscribed during Titanic month !! I love your channel!!! My interest of learning about the Titanic was the movie inspired me to join your channel !!

  • @gordbanks2258
    @gordbanks2258 Před 3 lety +123

    More accurately, when Titanic's stern went under, the force of the water entering the air filled spaces forced the air to expel at a very high pressure. Check out James Cameron's Titanic. The scene where the stern is slipping under you can see air being forced out with great pressure. This pressure of escaping air is what destroyed much of Titanic's interior stern spaces. When you look at the stern wreckage, you see where the shell plating has been peeled away, there is virtually nothing left of the interior spaces. Just bare rooms and spaces. In contrast to Titanic's bow section which still has many of the interior fittings and features such as remains of furniture, wood paneling, light fixtures and the like. I'm sure if you could send ROVs into the stern, all you'd see is empty spaces devoid of any fixtures, paneling, etc. Portholes would have exploded, interior bulkheads would have blown apart from this pressure of escaping air. Any air remaining in the stern, when she reached a certain depth, would have caused the implosion you are referring to.
    Otherwise, very good analogy. You seem to know your topics very well. Keep up the great work!!

    • @Mrs.IndiYoung
      @Mrs.IndiYoung Před 3 lety

      Very informative comment; thanks.

    • @gordbanks2258
      @gordbanks2258 Před 3 lety +8

      Thank you. I've been a Titanic nut for about 40 years. I think I was born in the wrong era, would have loved to seen the ship in all her glory.

    • @taraswertelecki3786
      @taraswertelecki3786 Před 3 lety +8

      The break up ripped shell plating away from the inner structure for 160 feet along the starboard side, and 120 feet on the port side. Then when it impacted the bottom, it stuck with tremendous force, and that pancaked decks atop one another and blew off the damaged shell plating on the starboard side, leaving interior decks open and exposed. Also air-filled compartments imploded, which pulverized the stern further.

    • @Mrs.IndiYoung
      @Mrs.IndiYoung Před 3 lety

      @@taraswertelecki3786 The comments on this channel are very interesting and informative. Nicely done Tara!

    • @gordbanks2258
      @gordbanks2258 Před 3 lety +8

      The breakup significantly weakened the stern section. The plunge to the bottom is what ripped the shell plating away. As the stern spiraled to the bottom, the force of the rushing water peeled the shell plating away. The impact with the bottom caused probably the most damage. The same can be said about the bow section. It was relatively intact until the bottom impact. Tremendous damage was caused then, the pancaking of the aft decks, the buckles in the hull, and the weight of the water crashing down on her upper decks caused some significant damage as well. Frankly, I'm surprised the stern is in as good a shape that it's in. Engines still fitted to their bases, second class staircase and elevator house still in place, aft mast still in place, although partially fallen to the side.

  • @stuarthancock571
    @stuarthancock571 Před rokem +18

    The largest room in the ship was the reciprocating engine room. It was as wide as the whole ship on the double bottom tank top, and took up another 4 decks. Orlop deck. G deck, F deck , E deck, with D deck being the ceiling of this massive room.
    So this massive room was exposed to the sea after the break and flooded within seconds without any restriction (like submersing a bucket on its side). This room full of water would've been so heavy, (as well as the engines' weight) that it easily dragged the rest of the stern full of air under water.

  • @speed150mph
    @speed150mph Před 3 lety +57

    Actually, depending on where the ship split in an alternate scenario, and whether or not the water tight bulkheads remained intact, it’s actually possible that the stern of the ship could have remained afloat indefinitely. Especially if at least one boiler room remained attached to the engine room. Then, assuming the crew was fast isolating the severed steam lines to other parts of the ship, you’d have auxiliary steam to run pumps, and generators to power at least some lights, whatever circuits that weren’t hopelessly shorted by the ship being torn apart.
    My basis of this is USS Murphy. Murphy if your not familiar was a benson class destroyer which was cut in two after a collision with SS Bulkoil. The bow sank but the stern section stayed afloat, and was towed back to the US where a new bow was built for the ship. Mind you Murphy was a destroyer from the Second World War built for war. But assuming the bulkhead held and the ship had enough floatation to not wallow deep enough for the water to spill over E deck, it could work.

    • @mindyschocolate
      @mindyschocolate Před 2 lety +9

      Too bad the stern was dragged under due to it still being attached to the keel with the bow as it went under. Had it been a completed clean break I agree it could have remained floating. What a huge bummer.

    • @justinnesbit3948
      @justinnesbit3948 Před 2 lety +4

      @@mindyschocolate Even with a clean break the weight of the engines would’ve dragged it under

    • @scarlthesnarl5581
      @scarlthesnarl5581 Před 2 lety +3

      @@justinnesbit3948 One would think that the weight of the engines would hold the severed end higher in the water. After all, the tail end didn't really have much wrong with it, but well... It's really neither here nor there at the end of the day.

    • @justinnesbit3948
      @justinnesbit3948 Před 2 lety

      @@scarlthesnarl5581 Probably after the snap it got dragged a bit under, and by the time it detached you had massive flooding with the stern at a really bad list. Probably no hope lol

    • @justinnesbit3948
      @justinnesbit3948 Před 2 lety +3

      @@scarlthesnarl5581 Hm I would think if the stern was cleanly cut then it would be weighed down heavily -by- the engines. The engines, as I've read, were actually the entire ship's center of mass. So with the engines by the severed end, you'd have all that pulled under, and then flooding would overtake the ship. No amount of air in the stern could save it from the weight. But that's probably what happened anyway lol

  • @Tasha-dk6mg
    @Tasha-dk6mg Před 3 lety +22

    I'm obsessed with all things titanic and your videos are great!

  • @screamingparrot4070
    @screamingparrot4070 Před 3 lety +21

    I’ve always been totally intrigued by the Titanic, from the building, the disaster and all the investigations and explorations. Actually got to have a Q&A with Bob Ballard at Keyport Washington Underssa Warfare center ( the museum outside of the base) think I was in 6th grade. At 42 I’m still intrigued by it. Very happy to have found your channel!

  • @robinrobyn1714
    @robinrobyn1714 Před 3 lety +14

    As a lifelong bookworm and History buff- I have to say: This channel is excellent.

  • @mattbatesteacher
    @mattbatesteacher Před 3 lety +14

    Just watched the 2019 wreck documentary. The stern was such a mess that it was too hazardous to even explore.

    • @litorres4125
      @litorres4125 Před 3 lety +1

      Link?

    • @mattbatesteacher
      @mattbatesteacher Před 3 lety +1

      @@litorres4125 it is titled "return to Titanic". Not sure it it has a claim on it yet

  • @robburns4176
    @robburns4176 Před 3 lety +14

    The steel deck plating on the poop deck is folded over like a taco from the forces of the air-water, plus hull plating pealed back like cardboard around there. Also there's some evidence that the stern inverted at least once on the way down causing some of the cargo cranes to fall out.

  • @Rapier100
    @Rapier100 Před 3 lety +13

    One thing that might be significant is the water column that the stern built up as it went to the bottom. When the stern slammed into the sea floor, the water column which was many tons in weight, had been moving at the relatively same speed. When the stern's downward motion abruptly stopped, the water column still had all that inertia and it then lands to the sterns deck and it rips even more of the now completely compromised material off and away from the stern itself. This explains why there is so much material around the stern on the sea floor. Had this not happened that material that was ripped away by the speed of the stern's sinking would have produced a much bigger debris field.

  • @craftpaint1644
    @craftpaint1644 Před 2 lety +14

    The story within the stern section must be amazing and awful at the same time, there were a lot of passengers and crew below deck that could only feel and hear what was happening just before going vertical, falling, and then going vertical again inside in the dark places now before going down. That this detail is overlooked in the movie is a shame because what they went through needs to be recognized for posterity.

    • @McLarenMercedes
      @McLarenMercedes Před rokem

      "there were a lot of passengers and crew below deck" A lot is seriously doubtful. Most passengers who hadn't boarded the lifeboats either were on the deck hoping for a miracle or had jumped into the water knowing they couldn't stay on the ship much longer. The crew mostly were on deck too trying to assist people and prevent widespread panic. I'd say only the engineers, coalmen and electricians were still fighting below deck.
      "That this detail is overlooked in the movie is a shame because what they went through needs to be recognized for posterity." Sigh. That would be seriously bad taste by any film maker not making a shock horror movie like those Final Destination films. Also, since all the focus is on the two fictional characters as they try to survive there's really no way to show that anyway. Fact is the spliced in scenes of people dying inside the ship carries Cameron's hallmark of being utterly unable to grasp that showing less and letting people come to their own conclusions from what is already perfectly clear is the hallmark of an adult individual. Then again perhaps he is aware most of the movie going audience doesn't like to think for themselves and need everything explained like to a third grader.
      "The story within the stern section must be amazing and awful at the same time" That's another way of saying "morbid curiosity" .

  • @coldbrew6104
    @coldbrew6104 Před rokem +3

    0:52 everytime you lift up the mod out of nowhere I'm totally not expecting it 🤣

  • @vickid9035
    @vickid9035 Před 3 lety +37

    There were also large refrigerators in the stern for all the cafes and the dining areas for the Titanic and those massive refrigerators there was at least one maybe more walk-in refrigerators they just imploded and I was part of the reason why the stern broke up like that

    • @taraswertelecki3786
      @taraswertelecki3786 Před 3 lety +16

      The implosions were described as sounding like a big gun going off in the distance. After it went under and imploded, large quantities of cork and other debris that had come from the refrigerated and frozen food storage came up to the surface.

    • @Tempusverum
      @Tempusverum Před 3 lety +4

      Wouldn’t it have been epic if all the watertight doors in the stern kept it floating forever. “We’re sailing half a ship, New York here we come!”

    • @taraswertelecki3786
      @taraswertelecki3786 Před 3 lety +4

      @@Tempusverum The engines were wrecked during the break up, and all the boilers plummeted to the bottom, along with Titanic's coal supply. Even if she remained afloat, she would have had to been towed rudder first by ocean going tugs to the nearest shipyard.

    • @ryans9029
      @ryans9029 Před 3 lety +2

      Absolutely no implosion happened from the refrigerators. They were not pressure vessels, nor air tight. Totally impossible.

    • @nickgarcia7415
      @nickgarcia7415 Před 3 lety +1

      @@ryans9029 being air tight doesn't matter. once something with air inside is under water the pressure will start to increase until the air finds a way out by either imploding or exploding

  • @stephenmyers-fulgham9841
    @stephenmyers-fulgham9841 Před 3 lety +6

    Also hydronic down blast effect when the stern finally reached the bottom. Bow had the same effect, but since the stern was structurally compromised, the down blast added to the level of damage seen today.

  • @Woody615
    @Woody615 Před 3 lety +29

    I think you give too much credit to the implosion for the destruction of the stern. As is known, the stern went down broken end first. As such, as the stern accelerated through the water, the force of the water would have filled up the broken end and ripped the interior and sides apart. It was going to be a mess once it got to the sea bed with or without the implosion.
    Good videos.

    • @ryans9029
      @ryans9029 Před 3 lety +2

      Correct. Implosion did not happen. Cameron proposed the idea... He's not a scientist or engineer.
      Any air trapped with the stern(little) would have been completely exposed to the incoming seawater, and would have compressed to equalization as it sunk to depth.
      Their were no pressure vessels or air tight or water tight compartments on titanic. No air would have been trapped and uncompressed.
      The refrigerators were not pressure vessels, and would have flooded just like any other part of the ship.
      The fact that the stern sunk in 2 minutes is enormous evidence that it flooded fully with water extremely rapidly... It did not bob because of a bunch of trapped air for any amount of time.
      People ignore that the stern was out of the water, providing NO BUOYANCY prior to break up..
      That means the bow contained enough buoyancy to maintain itself PLUS the stern weight completely out of the water... The bow section must have contained huge amounts of air to maintain all that weight above water....
      The water line inside the bow would have been many many feet below the outside water line, before break up.... To create the displacement and buoyancy necessary. But the bow section disappeared immediately after break up. Obviously relieving its store of air...
      No Implosion of the stern is possible. I've never heard an engineer or relevant scientist support the implosion idea. It simply makes no sense physics wise.

    • @taraswertelecki3786
      @taraswertelecki3786 Před 3 lety +1

      It went down broken end first, but quickly entered a death spiral where it fell rudder first. Water surged though it though with enough force to sweep aside the partition bulkheads within the stern. Undoubtedly things like furniture, personal items, dishes and linens were also swept out of the stern to rain down to the seabed. They were only there to divide the decks into cabins and other rooms, they were not essential to the ship's structural integrity.

    • @_--Reaper--_
      @_--Reaper--_ Před rokem

      What about the accounts of survivors hearing booms coming from beneath the depths a few minutes after it sunk?

  • @CaptainColdyron222
    @CaptainColdyron222 Před 3 lety +24

    Read Ghosts of the Titanic by Charles Pellegrino. He gives a blow by blow account of the sinking of the stern and graphically describes the destruction of the stern as it sinks into the sea.

  • @richardt.buryan832
    @richardt.buryan832 Před 3 lety +10

    Maximum angle of Stern to ocean surface was 23 degrees till stress tears apart the ship. Listing to port, the Stern half is rotating as it descends. Yes, the debris field reveals its secret.

    • @taraswertelecki3786
      @taraswertelecki3786 Před 3 lety

      There is a huge mark on the sea bed that shows the stern spiraled all the way to the bottom.

    • @bunnyflick4387
      @bunnyflick4387 Před 2 lety

      If it hadn't still been partially attached to the rest of the ship, is there a realistic chance (given that it was a calm night), that it may have been able to stay afloat for long enough for some help to arrive?
      Please bear in mind, I know nothing about ships, I'm just curious. I understand that having a huge, gaping hole in it, would have caused it to sink, but, theoretically, would it have been "slow" enough to save more lives, or would the sinking have still been really fast?
      Sorry if this is a stupid question. Again, I know nothing about ships.

    • @taraswertelecki3786
      @taraswertelecki3786 Před 2 lety

      @@bunnyflick4387 Absolutely not. The break up opened the engine rooms and probably the generator room to the ocean and they immediately flooded. The bow pulled the stern section upwards before B-deck, the last structure holding it together, failed and left the stern nearly vertical in the water. There was no way the stern would have remained afloat, not with the extensive damage to the shell plating.

  • @JoeNaeem
    @JoeNaeem Před 3 lety +15

    This video was excellent. I realize it's a longer video, but I'd love to hear about the Titanic in the context of European history--how it marked the end of the Edwardian Age and how it signaled the coming of WWI. A shorter video on the newspaper coverage/press in the days after the sinking would be great too!

    • @MirrorRose
      @MirrorRose Před 3 lety +3

      I'm not sure if you've read the book "The Ship of Dreams: The sinking of the titanic and the end of the Edwardian era", but you would absolutely appreciate it, based on your comment.

    • @JoeNaeem
      @JoeNaeem Před 3 lety +2

      @@MirrorRose Thanks!

  • @keith800
    @keith800 Před 3 lety +23

    Looking at the deck plans you had two decks of refrigerated rooms under the well deck at the bottom of the ship , by the nature of their construction would have been air tight if not also water tight that imploded on the way down this also compromising the ships structure in that part and the air released would cause more "mini" air pockets leading to more mini implosions within the structure and directly under the well deck is a large open dining area that would have imploded with escaping air and water pressure ,quite a maelstrom of things occurring together.
    The weight of the engines (2000 tons together ) plus the weight of the other machinery would have pulled the stern down at quite a rate.

  • @KoolDog570
    @KoolDog570 Před 9 měsíci +2

    Take a cup & put open end straight down into a sink full of water. Then turn it sideways & watch the large bubbles explode to the surface. Then imagine that happening on a 20k +/- ton scale. The ship breaking up was violent, but in watching some real time sinking recreations I've found the most sinister aspect was hearing the muffled explosions under the water. I can't imagine how that sounded up close at that depth, probably equivalent to the atomic bomb. Excellent presentation on this aspect of the sinking Sam, kudos!

  • @davidhackett3079
    @davidhackett3079 Před 3 lety +8

    Thanks for answering my question.
    The reason I brought this up I have been following the Titanic for many years. Some historical advisors have stated that when The Titanic hit the iceberg The Titanic ran over a sheet of ice or plating and in some artists rendering it shows ship tilting as its running past iceberg.
    This could have caused structural damage to under the hull as well besides the buckled plates and rivets popping out.
    This would explain possibly why the crewman felt water below him after damage occurred.
    I wish they could lower a submersible down in lower part of ship to see any damage that happened.
    Also have you heard any more news on bringing up the Marconi communication system
    That they want to save before ship dissolves away?

    • @AvengerII
      @AvengerII Před 3 lety +3

      The problem with determining berg damage is that the ship's hull hit the bottom at at least 20-25mph. The abrupt collision with the bottom caused multiple fractures along the bow as well as buckling it noticeably. They found damage on both sides of the bow with ultrasound equipment and they can never be 100% certain what damage was done by the iceberg!
      Furthermore, the bow is buried up to at least 60ft in the silt and mounting and digging that deep at such (12,000ft+) has never been done to my knowledge. The payoff just isn't there because we cannot know exactly what is berg damage and what is bottom collision damage. The visible plate buckling above the mudline of the wreck site is well above where the iceberg damage was noted by coal bunker survivors and it doesn't match up with what was observed internally.
      The best guesses at the iceberg damage are what the eyewitnesses in the engineering bulkheads saw and the calculations of Edward Wilding. What he proposed for the damage area (literally the square area of an average refrigerator or surface area of a human being) based on the rate of flooding is what's held up.
      Nobody has seen more of the Titanic than James Cameron and he's probably investigated at least 60% of the bow's interior. If he couldn't see everything, it was because the internal damage was too severe and his ROV's couldn't get through certain areas. That wouldn't have changed in the last 25 years, the situation is probably worse now. He visited on and off over at least a 15 year-period and made upwards of 30+ dives personally, more than any other Titanic explorer.
      This business of recovering the Marconi Wireless is a bad idea. They have photos of it and the Olympic's wireless, as well as examples in museums. Build a replica of it and put that on display; that would be less expensive and not risking people's lives in a salvage operation that could be fatal and at least destroy what's left of it. You can make the argument that "save it while it's still there!" but what big historical secrets are you going to uncover? There's NOTHING to gain by this!
      The wireless equipment would very likely NOT survive recovery attempts. The metal and wiring of the wireless are probably not in great condition; they would almost certainly be damaged if someone tried to remove them, especially with an ROV. The wireless room is in a fragile area of the wreck. Whether they can safely land a submersible on the weakened upper decks and deploy an ROV with cutters(!) and recovery basket is beside the point. The current is strong and whatever gets sent in will get pushed around. Even the Mir's that carried Cameron to the wreck were buffeted by the current and they collided with the bow on at least 1 or 2 occasions.

  • @jilljones6541
    @jilljones6541 Před 4 měsíci

    Thank you, I learned a lot about the sinking of the stern and explanation why the wreck of the stern is in such bad shape compared to the bow.

  • @taylor7772
    @taylor7772 Před 2 lety +7

    It would’ve (the stern) would have likely stayed afloat for a long time had it broke clean in half (with bulkhead and watertight doors left intact). A good example would be the amazing story of the SS Pendleton, a T2 oil tanker that broke in half and the stern stayed afloat long enough that 32 out of the 33 men in the stern were safely evacuated.

  • @seann3526
    @seann3526 Před 3 lety +6

    dude, dude, DUDE!!! awesome video man!!!! like others say, yout channel is so, sooooo under-rated, i watched all, all of your videos and you deserve more subscribers!

    • @HistoricTravels
      @HistoricTravels  Před 3 lety +4

      Haha Thanks man, I couldnt do this without people like you. I have really been enjoying this journey.

  • @naqihaidershah3238
    @naqihaidershah3238 Před 3 lety +2

    Logical and Critical Analysis...how Titanic sank and what happened to it...Scientific approach....Awesome dear...keep it up

  • @eddiebradham5201
    @eddiebradham5201 Před 3 lety +12

    Love your videos! Have you ever thought about a video about the titanic debris field? I've read it spreads over 15 miles of the sea floor, which fascinates me. Not sure if that would be of interest to others, but it seems like it would be.

  • @ImGoingSupersonic
    @ImGoingSupersonic Před 3 lety +9

    Cool video. I didn't know about the bow imploding.

    • @toddkurzbard
      @toddkurzbard Před 3 lety +5

      The bow DIDN'T implode. The STERN did.

    • @aaronkoeppe9057
      @aaronkoeppe9057 Před 3 lety +1

      It was the stern that imploded because of the air pockets inside. The stern went open end first as for the bow it was flooded with water.

  • @theothertroll
    @theothertroll Před rokem +2

    When I was a kid biking around north west Houston, we were watching a train cross over the huge concrete drainage bayou when for unknown reasons it derailed - the twisting of metal as boxcars tumbled into the basin was horribly loud, the sight was unbelievable - looking back I imaged that was similar to the subsurface noises, reported by survivors, that they heard as the Titanic broke up and the stern imploded- must have been horrific even though the survivors hadn’t a clue what they were hearing 😳

  • @georgemartin1436
    @georgemartin1436 Před 3 lety +3

    I thought that they found the keel plate severely bent in such a way that led to speculation that after the break-up, as the bow portion sank, the keel plate pulled the stern under from the weight of the bow. When the stern imploded the keel plate then separated. The theory seemed to make sense as they found the associated exact hull section sitting by itself on the sea floor where the damage seemed to support that.

  • @deeznutsos
    @deeznutsos Před rokem +1

    My attention span sucks but somehow I listened to every single word you said. This was a great explanation, thank you.

  • @mc2594
    @mc2594 Před 2 lety +3

    I think there's some potential for the Bow _pulling_ the Stern under ...
    1. the Stern twisting
    2. the Stern imploding.
    If the Bow and Stern had sank independently then it's likely the Stern would have remained afloat for a few more minutes and sank at the speed it filled with water without twisting or imploding.
    There's a good chance the Ship _almost_ broke into two separate sections on the surface but a better chance the Keel broke, tore and ripped away but may have held just enough to twist, pull and force the Stern under. Any air inside the Stern and we know there was some due to the implosion would have then pulled the two sections away from each other under the surface around the time or at the time of the implosion.

  • @jeremyslaughter5760
    @jeremyslaughter5760 Před 3 lety +13

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  • @derweibhai
    @derweibhai Před 3 lety +7

    If the stern had enough air in it to cause a large enough implosion to destroy it, it would just float until it filled with enough water to sink. The hatches and portholes would blow out way before an implosion, venting the air. The stern fell straight down at speed and pancaked on the bottom. The bow landed like an airplane.

  • @Usefullinformationphilippines

    The reason the Stern sank right after the bow was because they were still attached by the bottom of the ship, when the bow went down the ship broke in half but since they were still attached by the bottom of the ship the stern was pulled down with the bow.

    • @taraswertelecki3786
      @taraswertelecki3786 Před 3 lety +2

      Not true. The keel and double bottom bent upwards, shoving the engines, bulkheads, coal bunkers and boilers into the deck above, causing a cascade of failures that led to 70 feet of the keel and everything attached to it dropping away. The remains of boiler room 1, and the reciprocating engine room were on their way to the bottom before any of the four main pieces went under. That is why two huge pieces of the bottom are now upside down on the bottom, far away from the rest of the ship. It was in fact B-deck which was made of two layers of 1-inch thick plating that dragged the stern nearly vertical in the water before it split in three places, releasing the bow. The super structure smashing itself together created the forward and aft tower sections which crashed to the seafloor independently of the bow and stern sections.

  • @changingupmychannelforabit9554

    The stern wreck looks like my room

  • @toddryan0108
    @toddryan0108 Před 3 lety +2

    Great video, many people thought the stern would break off and become its own lifeboat. It’s too bad though that wasn’t the case....

  • @littlemidwestrebornsdolls

    My understanding of how Titanic went down is greatly improved. Thanks.

  • @bigpapaadam1
    @bigpapaadam1 Před rokem +1

    Very interesting! Awesome video 🎉

  • @gusthesailor4885
    @gusthesailor4885 Před 2 lety +2

    In addition, the separate rear part was very heavy since it was in this part that the engines and the 3 propellers were located ... therefore a considerable weight compared to the volume considered.

  • @rickhass3974
    @rickhass3974 Před 2 lety +1

    I like your talk about the titanic thank you

  • @jeffreybowers1220
    @jeffreybowers1220 Před rokem +2

    when he mentioned imploding my mind immediately went to that titan sub 😶

  • @brianw612
    @brianw612 Před 3 lety +3

    I think the stern was buoyant and mostly filled with air, but was still connected and pulled down quickly by the bow. They may have been connected by the keel plates.

  • @Sizzlor
    @Sizzlor Před 16 dny

    I once folded some paper and stapled it into a hull shape. After bending it over a table edge, simulating the stress at the waterline, I noticed the lower part of the "hull" began to bow outward while the top pinched inward. If this holds true to something like a 1 inch thick steel hull, then the plates bowing outward at the bottom would separate the hull from the structure of the ship and, more importantly, the edges of the watertight bulkheads. This would explain why the stern flooded so fast, and the way the lower plating on the bow section of the hull splays open at the bottom on both sides of boiler room No. 2.

  • @21bruce
    @21bruce Před rokem +1

    Implosion requires a substantial delta P across a pressure vessel. Air/water interface won’t do it, increasing water pressure just compresses the air volume down. Has to be at least moderately sealed compartment(s) to implode. Implosion energy can be pretty high though, depending on the pressure differential.

  • @megalodonpuppet1357
    @megalodonpuppet1357 Před 2 lety +1

    I just subscribed a few months ago and great video I wrote a whole book of titanic

  • @KC-UT4rmAZ
    @KC-UT4rmAZ Před 3 lety +1

    Loving the videos. My new favorite CZcams channel, keep it up!

  • @gregjohnson4193
    @gregjohnson4193 Před 4 měsíci

    Was watching a documentary on the debris field being so small, which suggests the breakup happened close to the bottom. That would suggest that the stern was pulled down by the bow which explains why the stern sank so quickly.
    We'll never know.

  • @davidhackett3079
    @davidhackett3079 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for getting back to me appreciate your help on my questions

  • @thomasmchugh1989
    @thomasmchugh1989 Před 3 lety +1

    very interesting, everything I've read, watched, and learned about the Titanic and I had somehow never come across this. Very cool!

  • @quondam
    @quondam Před 3 lety +3

    Cool videos....would like to see your insight into other ship/sub scenarios.
    Im from portsmouth UK. Would love your insight into the mary rose in the 16th century...its 1st voyage.
    Keep it up dude

    • @Mrs.IndiYoung
      @Mrs.IndiYoung Před 3 lety

      I second the motion for a video on the sinking of Henry VIII's flagship, the Mary Rose. It's written that Henry VIII saw it sink with his own eyes. The maritime archeology done to raise and preserve it, is astonishing. Especially considering the early 1980's era in which it took place.

  • @SkylarWhiteYo
    @SkylarWhiteYo Před 3 lety +7

    An other reason why the stern sunk so fast was because someone of the stern was still attached to the bow

    • @Hellotherebloke
      @Hellotherebloke Před 2 lety

      I mean yes and no.The double bottom brought the stern out of the air to do its final plunge.Though when the titanic was vertical the double bottom snapped off and then the stern sunk underwater

  • @DougSpende-eb2fz
    @DougSpende-eb2fz Před 19 dny

    Great video and explanation.

  • @do0Mbot
    @do0Mbot Před rokem +1

    The stern pulled the ol' *_Stockton Rush_* last minute before it was cool

  • @jetsons101
    @jetsons101 Před 3 lety

    Great work on narration and detail. You add a little more info to make the video enjoyable to watch and listen to. The main take away for me is that after Titanic safety really improved, manning the radios 24 HR a day and the formation of the ice patrol. Fine work, keep it up...................

  • @michaelisiusephus
    @michaelisiusephus Před 2 lety

    Thanks for your videos
    Now I have everything to know about Titanic :D

  • @nicholasmaude6906
    @nicholasmaude6906 Před 3 lety +2

    If the break had been a clean break and the stern's watertight bulkheads intact specifically the one separating the No.1 boiler-room and the engine-room then I suspect the stern might've still be afloat when the Carpathian arrived in which hundreds more of the Titanic's complement would've survived.

    • @christinabishop2533
      @christinabishop2533 Před 3 lety

      Highly unlikely. If you look at the honor and glory animation, the stern was listing to the port at a pretty good angle when it righted itself. The bulkhead at this point would have been WTB K, which only went as far as the floor of D Deck. With the extreme angle that the list was, this would have rendered the WTB moot as the water would have filled through D & C Decks over the bulkhead and there are numerous stairs and shafts that connect far down at this point. Another factor is the weight of the machinery that would have pulled the break end into the water long before any help could have arrived.

    • @taraswertelecki3786
      @taraswertelecki3786 Před 3 lety +1

      @@christinabishop2533 I agree, the presence of the engines at the forward end of the stern section would have prevented it from staying on an even keel. Just the foundation for one of the reciprocating engines weighed 200 tons. These massive foundations were strong enough to hold the engines in place. Only the two low-pressure cylinders that were shoved into the decks above when the keel bent upwards dropped out when the bottom opened up. Now they are in the debris field.

  • @obsessedwithcars219
    @obsessedwithcars219 Před 3 lety

    Awesome coverage of a topic people go to sleep thinking about regularly

  • @wildwinebert
    @wildwinebert Před 3 lety

    thanks for the info i always wonder how only half of it look good underwater

  • @stuartmcluvin4794
    @stuartmcluvin4794 Před 3 lety +1

    Imagine the trapped "survivors" left in the stern feeling the air pressure on their bodies. Nose, ears and lungs must of bled before death. Kids hugging loved ones feeling the pressure crush their skulls while gripping onto teddy. Brutal

  • @GraemePryce1978
    @GraemePryce1978 Před rokem +1

    I only found your channel recently. I immediately liked your videos and I've watched quite a few now. I like how you use great quality graphics to explain your points every now and then, but mostly sit and face the camera and just explain really well. You have a really good connection with the audience. Well done Sir!

  • @georgebarden4818
    @georgebarden4818 Před 3 lety +1

    Great videos, hats off🎩🎩

  • @paulwoodford1984
    @paulwoodford1984 Před rokem +3

    It was the weekend Olympic that sank, hence the more damage done to the stern

  • @scottross80
    @scottross80 Před 3 lety +1

    Great explanation, thank you! Keep the videos coming!!

  • @cheryl8466
    @cheryl8466 Před 2 lety

    Wow... I have been learning so much from your channel. It's amazing! Thank you for giving me this knowledge and for posting these videos.

  • @nowhereman1046
    @nowhereman1046 Před 3 lety +1

    Given how long the keel managed to hold intact, but bent to the stern section, the two main sections were still connected and the bow probably contributed to hastening the stern's sinking by pulling it down long enough that when it broke and partially righted, the flooding was too much by that point in time for a slower sinking stern.

    • @nowhereman1046
      @nowhereman1046 Před 3 lety

      @Anomalocaris please read carefully what people write before you comment.

  • @darrinsantiago3110
    @darrinsantiago3110 Před 2 lety

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  • @bofty
    @bofty Před 3 lety +3

    I would add that as the bow and stern hit the seafloor the water inside the hull was still moving down (like a person in a car crash) so blew out the sides of the wreck, we see it more in the stern at it didn't have that "aerodynamic" shape, it smashed into the bottom a lot harder.

  • @Mrs.IndiYoung
    @Mrs.IndiYoung Před 3 lety +1

    I am a new subscriber. Well done, lad! Keep up the good work.

  • @simonray4838
    @simonray4838 Před 2 lety +1

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  • @Techgnome21
    @Techgnome21 Před 2 lety

    Its just fascinating that after all these years no one can say for certain how the titanic sank. There's still so many different theories.

  • @RomanHistoryFan476AD
    @RomanHistoryFan476AD Před 3 lety +2

    Funny enough this is also the reason why you rarely see any deep sea fish on display or in aquariums, as it is very difficult to bring them to the surface without them exploding from within due to the lack of pressure on their bodies compared to their own internal system.

  • @theanna1480
    @theanna1480 Před 2 lety

    Your explanation is the best. Know I really understand what happend there. Thank you so much!

  • @emmeriankiwi6993
    @emmeriankiwi6993 Před 3 lety +1

    I read somewhere (Not wikipedia but another site that's more accurate) that another possible way that the stern was so badly damaged was the spinning during the descent, so as she was spinning she may of scraped the seabed creating even more damage as well as the overwhelming force that was slammed upon her, someone (Can't remember their name) said that there was a deep carve into the seabed... Could be wrong but it was fairly recently talked about

  • @randybelchick4873
    @randybelchick4873 Před 3 lety +1

    I just got to point out the titanic had refrigeration equipment such as the refrigerator and freezer they were most likely still closed when the stern went down and i also heard there was a lot of cork in the stern that put alot of pressure that lead it to break up

  • @Gtslmfa0
    @Gtslmfa0 Před rokem

    This is so cool. So is this guy. Earned yourself a sub sir

  • @Meggiebeth19
    @Meggiebeth19 Před rokem

    Great explanation, thank you. Fascinating too.

  • @voxac30withstrat
    @voxac30withstrat Před rokem

    Holy cow Ive seen countless videos, movies, documentaries, books, books, books and more books going on about the Titanic and I've come to the conclusion that it was the ONLY ship to ever sink. EVER.
    I'm going to either throw my book on the MV Wilhelm Gustloff out or put it in the SciFi section.

  • @jaysilverheals4445
    @jaysilverheals4445 Před 3 lety +1

    hey sitting here quarantined so enjoying your videos on Titanic. I have a suggestion for a possible video you can do since i am too old. The debris field as it relates to where Titanic hit the berg and where the items are located as Titanic drifted in the current that was from north to south. The actual impact would have at least a couple miles if not more from the actual impact. The breaking apart and sinking did not occur till about two hours later where things started dropping such as the boilers breaking loose. The "outliers" such as the keel bottom are way off to the side of the front and stern. I believe that the items on the bottom map the drifting of the ship as it sank. The boilers that ripped loose--would thus document the breaking apart and tilting--they would have pinpointed the breaking apart since they would have dropped like rocks. The front and stern likewise would have planed but still went down "more or less" at the far end final part of the debris field.
    In the various maps shown they are shown at various angles not saying which way is north. That is a ripe peach for picking if someone relates the debris field to the drifting. The icefield was far south showing the current on the surface was from north to south. if that is the case the various items dropped would be a map and timeline. True the surface was smooth--but little did they know they were actually drifting to the south.
    when people view the debris field they visualize a calm lake--where titanic hit the berg --everything below on the sea floor in the center of the debris field --when actually the impact was miles north and then a timeline--------------------------------of items dropping. The boilers MARK the split up. etc and so on.

    • @jaysilverheals4445
      @jaysilverheals4445 Před 3 lety +1

      anyway the ideas I mentioned would explain "what the hell is this doing way off over here?" and is low hanging fruit for someone to grab. Titanic WAS DRIFTING in relation to the bottom even though they could not detect it.

  • @IsaacNg28
    @IsaacNg28 Před 3 lety +4

    You just got a new subcriber 😉

    • @HistoricTravels
      @HistoricTravels  Před 3 lety +1

      Welcome aboard! Thank You I really appreciate it! I am currently planning out my next video, if you have any suggestions I try to read all my comments. :)

  • @alexcarr5190
    @alexcarr5190 Před rokem

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  • @easternyellowjacket276
    @easternyellowjacket276 Před rokem +1

    Still not sure how the Baker that survived claimed to have walked of the stern right as it entered the water with his hair barely getting wet.. If there was high pressure air blowing out all over the place, the water would have been a tempest and he most likely would have been impacted/affected by all of that.

  • @imanmans5671
    @imanmans5671 Před 2 lety

    Your videos is fun and interesting to watch

  • @ninjamasterbuilder8675

    Oh and historic travels another example of sort of implosion is the sinking of the hms hood because it had sunk in a v formation and it sunk so quickly that it may or may not have sort of imploded but the stern of the ship still is a little in one piece with the light still attached but i believed it had did a small implosion

  • @NynkeFdejong
    @NynkeFdejong Před 2 lety

    impressive and absolute learn about it :) i am glad that my questions be answered. sorry for bad english

  • @fr0stlegend712
    @fr0stlegend712 Před 2 lety

    I love your videos i love anything you do im also in love with anything under the ocean im a Titanic enthusiastic my self since i was very young age . I enjoy your videos so much. Im from Greece the place that hosting the brother of titanic Britannic hope you do a video for Britannic as well sister ship of Legendary Titanic .
    Cant stop watching your titanic videos omg Hehe

  • @timothybogle1461
    @timothybogle1461 Před rokem

    The leading edge of the bow was closed to the effects of the water so remained intact.
    The leading edge of the stern was open Bs exposed to the water and the water passing the open stern ripped everything off.
    It's akin to holding a deck of cards out of a moving car window. If the cards are facing backwards (the bow), it's easy to hold. If the cards are facing forward (the stern) they are flying everywhere.
    I don't think it imploded. It pancaked down upon impact because it was so compromised.

  • @garyunsworth726
    @garyunsworth726 Před 2 lety

    I really enjoy your posts ❤️

  • @ShaneCrossley500
    @ShaneCrossley500 Před 3 lety +1

    Great video, thank you for the insight buddy. Just subscribed now

  • @Noneyabuiness
    @Noneyabuiness Před rokem

    The stern was isolated with water tight bulkheads. But the stern contained the heaviest equipment, engines, boilers, generators. So it had less buoyancy per volume. So it went down with large amount of trapped air. That is why it had the implosion over a great many compartments, ripping it apart.

  • @nicholaskettle9154
    @nicholaskettle9154 Před rokem +5

    Who is here after the missing submersible implosion?

  • @RobCLynch
    @RobCLynch Před 2 lety +1

    I wonder if it possible that pockets of air were trapped inside the stern of the ship as it sunk or even once it hit the ocean floor? And could people have been trapped in those air pockets?
    For the record, there were also a lot of living animals on board Titanic.

  • @dannymacnevin3939
    @dannymacnevin3939 Před 3 lety +1

    Hey, you know something I always wondered about this theory... is the keel of the ship... in most animations they have it letting go almost immediately... but has anyone every considered that perhaps the keel stayed attached longer than that, and in essence the bow pulled the stern under water... and that's why there was still so much air inside the stern... and the keel didn't actually let go until both sections were under water. I remember watching a female eye witness that said how shocked she was at how fast it went under water... to me, that sounds more like it was being pulled under water... anyway, just a thought...

  • @ashleyowen7664
    @ashleyowen7664 Před 3 lety +1

    the stern was so full of air that when it went down, the pressure on it, forced the stern to implode, BUT because there was still air inside, and the pressure was increasing, the stern then exploded, and as it sank, soon, because they were they heaviest part, the propellers were facing down, instead of being at the "top" of the stern, it then started spiralling in small circles, slowly getting larger, when it finally hit bottom, it sent a shock-wave through the remaining structure of the stern and damaged it further