Why I Quit Being a Doctor After 12 years- why I quit medicine and GP
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- čas přidán 4. 09. 2022
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DID I BURN OUT?
I'm pre-empting this question.
A definition of burn out is 'Burnout is a long-term stress reaction marked by emotional exhaustion, depersonalization, and a lack of sense of personal accomplishment.' (www.ahrq.gov/prevention/clini...)
'Burn out'- is a term we should be disregarding. It piles the responsibility for this state onto the individual who is 'burnt out'- rather than a system that harms it's workers. When the prevalence of 'burnout' among clinicians (over 50 percent in some studies) is so high, it is time that we look at the system rather than the individuals for answers. (This figure is taken from the same reference above.)
Whilst I didn't reach these points I can completely see why people do. In the video I talk about some of the many roles I've undertaken over the years and keeping my career varied has always allowed me to feel accomplishment, have the excitement of getting to know a new environment and feel that I continue to learn and progress. However, I have no doubt that at some point this would have been unavoidable.
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“Whistleblowers don’t pass”??!! That’s absolutely horrifying. I’m so sorry you’ve had to leave the job you love. You sound like an amazing doctor - a huge loss to the profession. Thank you for everything you’ve done for your patients and good luck for the future.
Has this made national news? Yes no
It is an unwritten rule. Happened to a friend of mine.
CZcams pays better and more
This is true -- all bureaucrats feel this way. It means they would have to do their job. It also means they are not doing their job. They know they are incompetent and take it personally. So their only option is to hurt you.
Competent, capable people love constructive feedback. They have the know how to fix and not fear the complaint.
Any time you are called to see a bureaucrat, go with someone else. They fear saying things in public - especially HR. They will say company rules prevent me from having this discussion with your friend present. "Sorry to hear that -- please send comments in writing."
If it's not against the law -- friend with or not -- record the conversation.
That was shocking.She raised a valid concern instead of working on it she berated her and than threatened her.
I'm so shocked, Emma. Filling in an incident form is hardly whistle blowing and the fact that this woman felt so free to intimidate and abuse you shows how quality issues are (not) handled. I am a paediatrician in the Netherlands and while things are far from perfect here, I suddenly feel immensely privileged. I also feel pretty sad, because I worked in the NHS as a registrar in 2000-2001 and things were by no means as bad yet... I'm happy you've been able to make the right choice for you. It really is the patients' loss.
All roads in the current dystopia facing all professional fields lead back to Marxism and tyranny. The West has fallen to sinister Marxism that now sickens all of society. Empty suits and skirts in Parliament, game show hosts with the gravitas of capuchin monkies are now "legislating" and "funding" "sick care." Marxism destroys everything. England, once the beacon of liberty and freedom, is now just an open-air prison. Who wants to be a doctor in a prison?Understood. Congratulations on leaving the prison rules of modern-day "healthcare/sickcare."
"Civilization will ultimately perish from too much civilization (aka Marxist prison rules, modern terminology."
Ralph Waldo Emerson, philosopher savant
Wow, as a nurse I can relate to some of these issues. Healthcare careers are more and more bleak these days. I’m happy that you’re prioritizing your mental health and values ❤
Wowww! I'm a pharmacist in the US and the working conditions here are so horrendous. This video is spot on-the public has no idea. I feel everything you said in this video in my soul. Eveything you said is true and I can totally relate. I've been in this profession almost 30 years and I totally hate it now. It's changed so much for the worst. It's no longer about patient care(my reason for choosing this profession}, only about money, numbers and metrics. The lack of adequate staffing and amount of stress for the staff creates dangerous working conditions and it's truly unsafe for the patients. I frequently leave work stressed out and worried if I made a mistake, etc. Recently a pharmacist literally dropped dead of a heart attack because they wouldn't allow her to leave because of lack of coverage. A technician had a miscarriage for the same reason. t's such a toxic work environment. A recent study showed that pharmacists were the number one health professionals who had the most pandemic era exits. It's been truly sad to watch my profession go down the toilet. I can't wait to get out! So happy for you and your new future endeavors.
xx it's just so sad.
This whole quantification of your service as a measure of productivity ie. KPI's is rampant in all professions. People are being treated like machines everywhere.
As an ST3 GP trainee, I can agree with everything you’ve said.
The 10 minutes for consultation is simply diabolical.
How can a doctor properly assess a patient in 10minutes?
That’s why we keep bringing patients back to the surgery
I don’t get to see a GP now. I get a telephone call back from a GP, paramedic or a nurse practitioner and get assessed remotely numerous times.
Even hospital surgical team OPD appointment is no longer face to face - I had a 4 month wait for an urgent review. It was a remote 10 minute assessment by telephone!!! And now a 6 month wait for complex surgery. You don’t know who is operating on you until that day! Now I am contemplating going abroad for private surgery. Perhaps this is what the NHS is pushing patients to - to get their care privately (from anywhere). Our health service is broken.
Thank you so much for sharing your story, Emma. As a fellow physician in the US, it pains me to hear of yet another talented, altruistic, thorough and meticulous physician leave the field. As someone who taught medical students and trainees for over a decade, I can say that not all trainees end up becoming the kind of doctor that I can plainly see you are. After hearing all you and your colleagues have endured, it's not hard to see why you would come to this decision. After committing your life to medicine - and it truly is a life commitment, not just another job - I can see how heart wrenching it must have been to see how broken the system has become and to know the only real solution for your own self-preservation is to part ways from it. I'm just glad that you had the strength to do so in a healthy way, unlike so many of our colleagues who have become so disillusioned that they have turned to unhealthy coping mechanisms and even suicide to escape (more common than the public realizes); thank you also for highlighting mental health resources for your colleagues out there. I wish more physicians would be brave enough to stand up, but this silencing of whistleblowers is a problem that will ultimately lead to the loss of more great physicians and harm patients in the end.
All roads in the current dystopia facing all professional fields lead back to Marxism and tyranny. The West has fallen to sinister Marxism that now sickens all of society. Empty suits and skirts in Parliament, game show hosts with the gravitas of capuchin monkies are now "legislating" and "funding" "sick care." Marxism destroys everything. England, once the beacon of liberty and freedom, is now just an open-air prison. Who wants to be a doctor in a prison?Understood. Congratulations on leaving the prison rules of modern-day "healthcare/sickcare."
"Civilization will ultimately perish from too much civilization (aka Marxist prison rules, modern terminology."
Ralph Waldo Emerson, philosopher savant
Similar in Nursing. Sadly.
I can’t believe that she didn’t read your comment.❤
HAHA..."12 years".That's one more than the average female doctor's career.
Seems like a most excellent feather in your cap as such a successful, caring
angel. But not for long enough for the drudge and labor to set in.
Go ahead and deny all those males, whom average 30 years in practice & pursue the most demanding specialties, med school slots: "I've got a statement to make".
So sorry to hear this because you must have been a lovely doctor. i totally understand that you quit, but what a loss. I wish you all the best for the future.
Thank you so much for speaking up. Here in the U.S., the majority of people seem to think hospitals are safe, efficient and organized, when they are not. There are huge pressure on staff not to speak up, and combined with the publics natural inclination to WANT to believe they are in safe hands, results in the issue only getting worse.
I am from the U.S. I worked as a nurse for 27years. I left it last year. There was a day when I knew when I got to my unit that it would be my last shift. My career in nursing was done it wasn't a good feeling. I felt that we were being stretched to far and I wasn't able to give good care anymore. I wish you the best in this new chapter of your life.
I hope you’re ok x
I'm shocked at your experience, Emma. Everyone working in healthcare should be encouraged to report incidents because it's through the investigation of incidents that we learn how to do better in the future. How sad (and dangerous) that there are still senior clinicians who perpetuate a different culture. Wishing you all the best for the next phase of your career 👍❤
Thank you.
Thank you for sharing your experience. My jaw actually dropped when you shared the story about the woman ripping the paper. I'm horrified by the reality of working in medicine and so appreciative that you stayed as long as you did. I hope you are respected and happy in whatever comes next. ❤
Thanks Meghan x
This makes complete sense as to why so many patient issues are never addressed or just fall through the cracks. Healthcare truly is broken, and not just in the UK. US doctors get paid more and have access to better equipment but typically have similar lack of time to spend with their patients.
After hearing all this, I’m even more grateful to have such a wonderful caring GP who has his own private practice. He has a waiting list over a year long, but since he is both a traditional MD as well as a holistic doctor who has more knowledge and wisdom than all the other doctors I’ve ever met combined it has to be expected. Every visit with him I pay out of pocket, it’s not covered under insurance, but it’s well worth it. I’ve never had an appointment that wasn’t at least 30 minutes long, and initial visits are always at least 1 hour long. He always answers ALL of my questions and concerns and doesn’t berate me when I ask him about something I’ve read on the internet. I appreciate and admire him so much.
I’m happy you were able to get out from under that sort of work environment, because that sort of stress is never good for you. Good luck with all your future endeavors. 💗
Hi Gloria. I am looking for a GP like the one you have. May I ask you what state you live in, if you are in the U.S.?? Thanks.
I wish mine was like that. My GP just likes to prescribe antidepressants to everyone for everything. He never believes me. He refuses to prescribe visits. Before him i had another doctor and he was also very bad. He was so rude and would insult you if you came without an appointment because you have an emergency. He would speak badly about the patiens etc.
I’m a teacher and I relate to everything in this video. Even though what you are doing is different (and the stakes are different), the themes you discuss are the similar or the same. Over worked with no support and being treated as if you should be grateful for a paycheck.
This resonated with me as I was a teacher also. I recently left the classroom after 17 years. I completely understand this 100%
Best of luck to you.
As a teacher of 6 years, truly relate to this. Too much pressure.
All roads in the current dystopia facing all professional fields lead back to Marxism and tyranny. The West has fallen to sinister Marxism that now sickens all of society. Empty suits and skirts in Parliament, game show hosts with the gravitas of capuchin monkies are now "legislating" and "funding" "sick care." Marxism destroys everything. England, once the beacon of liberty and freedom, is now just an open-air prison. Who wants to be a doctor in a prison?Understood. Congratulations on leaving the prison rules of modern-day "healthcare/sickcare."
"Civilization will ultimately perish from too much civilization (aka Marxist prison rules, modern terminology."
Ralph Waldo Emerson, philosopher savant
I am also a teacher. I agree, this resounds with me.
In my humble opinion teachers provide a service which is at least as great as that of doctors. Doctors may save lives in an obvious way but teachers turn lives around for those who have difficult home lives by helping students see that life is not only what their parents show them. Teachers are inspiring.
Videos like this are a motivator for me as a middle-aged woman to do everything in my power to stay healthy, so as to avoid having to use medical care as much as possible. Absolutely frightening!
Thank you for your bravery and honesty. There’s so many things I want to bring to light, but can not since I’m still practicing. Changes need to be made
This has made me so sad and angry. The health system here is also broken and no one seems to want to even make an attempt at fixing it. Too many middle management making decisions about things they haven't a clue about.
This was such an interesting video. Thank you,sincerely, for sharing your experience with us. It is sad that the NHS has lost yet another committed, passionate and caring doctor. Wishing you all the best Emma. ♥️
Emma thank you so much for being so open and honest with us about your experiences and reasons for making a change ! This was an incredibly interesting topic and certainly shocking to hear some of the experiences !! Thank you again xo
As a fellow physician, I can’t imagine working in the UK under the NHS or private sector.
I’m in the US, as a subspecialist surgeon and now have an amazing PT practice with flexibility of schedule, a scribe in clinic, plenty of computers in the clinic and hospital, 3 NP’s to help in the OR and hospital.
Prior to this, I was burned out by the system, so I completely understand. I was not appreciated and told I was just a “provider.” I was replaceable.
You have to put yourself and your family first. 🤗💕🙏🏻
Thank you for this, Emma. Good luck for the future.💜💜💜💙💙💙
Thank you so much Emma for bringing to light some of these issues with our publicly funded healthcare systems. I am a chiropractor practising in Canada and we face similar issues with our medical system. We have far too many complex patients and under resourced medical staff and it is a recipe for disaster. Too many patients are dissatisfied from the medical system and their GP - especially during the pandemic. I always strive to explain that their GP wants to spend as much time as possible with them but they are not able to. And as a result, their complex health needs are not analyzed as they should be. Now we have some thing called cascade prescriptions where patients are on a lengthy list of prescription medications to treat side effects of pre ious medications - and there is no one to sit and consolidate all of these.
In school, we were trained with having more time with patients to accurately diagnose. There is no way you can do that in a 5-7 min appointment. I, myself, spend more time than most with my patients and my scope is narrower! on top of that, GPs are limited in the number of tests they can prescribe because the ministry has tight guidelines for prescribing imaging and blood work. It’s become a far more “reactive” model when it comes yo medicine. And I can see how this can be very disturbing to practitioners and who have so much liability on the line if they make a mistake.
I do really like the functional medicine model. We don’t have a lot of practitioners here, but it’s more up and coming in the states where there is a private system. But again, it’s a numbers and money game.
What I am thankful for here in the public system is that in case of trauma or serious Illness, we are covered. But, it can be incredibly frustrating with delays to access this care.
I really hope our governments realize this is not sustainable and make the necessary changes to retain staff. Moving towards a more preventative model would also change things.
My sister is a Doctor in Canada and it's truly shocking how little she gets paid and the pressures on her to complete paperwork, process patients, and the liability issues relating to these stressors. I'm glad you are finding and following your passion.
Thanks Wendy. You’ve always been so supportive and I really appreciate it x
It's a different health care system in the Canada. They do much better in the U.S. financially I'm sure.
@@MC-kl5mp Watch the youtube channel Patients stories. It's about people in Canada unable to get healthcare for devastating illnesses. Socialized medicine is bad news.
Little she gets paid? Doctors in Canada get paid 3x more than they get paid in the NHS.. you'd be shocked at what NHS consultants earn. Many are leaving the profession to go work in private tech sectors.
All roads in the current dystopia facing all professional fields lead back to Marxism and tyranny. The West has fallen to sinister Marxism that now sickens all of society. Empty suits and skirts in Parliament, game show hosts with the gravitas of capuchin monkies are now "legislating" and "funding" "sick care." Marxism destroys everything. England, once the beacon of liberty and freedom, is now just an open-air prison. Who wants to be a doctor in a prison? Understood. Congratulations on leaving the prison rules of modern-day "healthcare/sickcare."
"Civilization will ultimately perish from too much civilization (aka Marxist prison rules, modern terminology."
Ralph Waldo Emerson, philosopher savant
Thank you so much for sharing Emma, it's heartbreaking to hear this dark side of med, the stress and expectations put on doctors and yet, still there is such little appreciation for their effort. Take cares, and best wishes for what the future has in store for you!
Thank you so much
I’ve been a nurse for 37 years and what is happening to health care globally is very sad and frightening. I now work from home still in a nursing capacity but not with direct patient care for the same reason you mention .
Yes, a global issue. I am a doctor of 40 years in USA, started out in private practice, then 20 years in big business took over and pushed out almost all of us independents. The bigwig non physician managers earn millions, while patient care suffers, and physician burn out takes a large toll.
What do you mean by big business, please? Excuse my ignorance, just really curious.
So sorry you had these experiences. I've had similar experiences as a teacher and I retired last year. I loved my job too! I'm still dealing with my emotions over the inhumane way I was treated. You're an inspiration to me. Now I'm trying to move on and live my best life. Thanks for this video.
I hope you find a new passion. I feel there are a lot of similarities in all the public service roles and it is sad to see. But onwards and upwards!
Thanks for sharing your story and it's lovely hearing from you Emma. Glad you are well! It's sad as many issues you referenced exist within the Australian medical system although not to the same degree - I do appreciate that you mentioned how people with moderate mental health (long-term issues often) but not crisis level often fall through the system.
I understand you completely. I used to be a healthcare worker (I'm in the US) and a few months ago I just felt like I had enough. I work in the tech industry now and I couldn't be happier. My heart is with anyone still working in healthcare.
Hi, I’m interested in leaving the GP office for a job in the tech industry as well. Could you recommend any roles that my background would make me a good fit for? 🙏🏾
@@spa33meister maybe bioinformatics and data science.
How did you make the shift?
@@spa33meister why don,t you just sell real estate
@@spa33meister how about real estate
Thank you for making this video. It was a really good way to draw a line under that part of your life. What a terrible state of affairs. In NZ we have many of the same issues sadly. Look forward to hearing all about your new endeavours when you are ready to do so.
Thank you for sharing Emma! Sending you all my support from Spain x
Im a junior doctor and I want to sincerely thankyou for this video!
Thank you. I hope you have a much better experience!
Thank you so much for filming this very interesting, sad and moving video. It makes me sad to hear all this. I wish you well and admire your courage ❤❤❤ take care
Godspeed! Hope all will be well. You will always be a doctor, the instinct to care would always be there❤️
You are wonderful for being able to be so transparent and honest in this big decision. I truly appreciated the time spent giving specific, in depth examples. Subscribed and looking forward to more videos! - pediatric CVICU RN
Bless you Emma, you care so much and somebody like yourself will be a great miss to patients. It’s truly shocking and the NHS will continue to lose valuable people who are great assets. Morale is at an all time low among front line staff and this will undoubtedly have repercussions on workforce retention.
I’m absolutely shocked and horrified! You are so obviously incredibly dedicated. Kudos to you for standing your ground and doing the best for yourself.
That’s so brave of you, definitely admire you for this. Hope that this move and also of others who had left healthcare will cause a positive impact when they suddenly realized that the good resources are gone. 🙌🏼♥️🥰🙏🏼
Emma you have so much integrity and strong principles. Your stories are heartbreaking and confirm my thoughts of a sadly shattered health care system in which so many will sadly suffer both patients and health professionals.
Incredibly generous of you to share this. I've never heard this perspective from a GP and I can see why considering the possible career consequences. The whistleblower part feels shocking yet familiar. I'm interested in the parallels between other sectors too but won't go into that here.
Emma, you are 100 per cent correct in everything you say. I too worked in the NHS for over 20 years and it has deteriorated over that time. It is too top heavy which swallows up all the money. There are endless meetings which have nothing to do with patient care. It has become too political. The problem is the good people leave. Anyway good luck in your next career, I am sure you will be successful in anything you choose to do x
Thank you. In my original edit I talked about some of the more amusing meetings I attended over the years but the video was too long- but I totally agree!
I'd say healthcare has always been political - politicians decide the funding, the location of hospitals, which diseases/ specialities get more funding (or less), what drugs are available etc etc! And not always in a rational way!
All roads in the current dystopia facing all professional fields lead back to Marxism and tyranny. The West has fallen to sinister Marxism that now sickens all of society. Empty suits and skirts in Parliament, game show hosts with the gravitas of capuchin monkies are now "legislating" and "funding" "sick care." Marxism destroys everything. England, once the beacon of liberty and freedom, is now just an open-air prison. Who wants to be a doctor in a prison?Understood. Congratulations on leaving the prison rules of modern-day "healthcare/sickcare."
"Civilization will ultimately perish from too much civilization (aka Marxist prison rules, modern terminology."
Ralph Waldo Emerson, philosopher savant
They seen the money in health and latched on. Everyone trying to leach of health
Thank you for sharing your experience and perspectives in practicing medicine in the UK 💕 All of my inner circle are physicians (both brothers, sister-in-law, late father, two lifelong college friends), so I have personal insights into the stresses and realities of practicing medicine in the US that most of the general public can’t appreciate.
Thank you for your service in and out of the NHS. Huge bravery required for a career change, well done for advocating for yourself and your well-being. Hope all going well with the new endeavours x
Thank you Emma. The whole GP NHS explanation really made me sit up and take notice. We often moan about our GP’s etc but having seen this video, I am aghast! Especially the example of your grandad taking 3 mins to get his coat etc off! GP’s have so little actual time. And how shocking how you were treated as a Junior Doctor and the whole whistleblowing thing. Thank you for sharing this and completely understand why you are changing career. Love all your videos x
Thank you so much! This was a daunting one to make and I wasn’t sure if people would find it interesting so thank you. X
@@Emmaanders I am sure this video will help a lot of us better understand the challenges faced by everyone who works in the health service - and hopefully Drs, nurses etc will be treated better by their employers and their patients. We are all so quick to complain but sometimes you as a professional, have your hands tied. We forget the tremendous strain you are all under. Thanks again for sharing. X
Hi Emma. I randomly found this video through handbag research! As a hospital consultant (and fellow handbag lover), I am potentially leaving the NHS after 23 years but for very different reasons: a chronic health condition. I am finding the process daunting and frankly terrifying: I think we get institutionalised to a degree and I have absolutely no idea what I will do if and when I do leave. Being a doctor is such a part of our identity as well as a career. That said, the issues you raise in this video absolutely resonate with me and given I qualified roughly 10 years before you, it's depressing that so little has changed. I continue to work through my own decision making process and I wish you all the best for your new career.
I really hope they sort these things out. They should listen to staff like you who are on the ground and experience these things daily. They have lost a great Dr here, such a shame. I wish you well for the future Emma and love all your bag videos xx
Very interesting Emma especially as at the moment I have two 92 year old in-laws in hospital for the last 2 weeks having been in a road traffic accident . I can’t believe some of the things I have witnessed with my own eyes . It’s truly awful. When you come across a great nurse , doctor or auxiliary you just want to keep hold of them . It’s such a shame professionals are leaving but I can understand why . Good luck with what ever you do next Emma . X xx
Thank you so much for being so open about this.
Thanks for your stories, Emma. Really makes me feel sad for the UK population that the NHS can’t get its shit together. I am planning on doing my icu fellowship there in a couple of years time but am so apprehensive to work in such a broken system. I really hope you consider a future in trying to shape healthcare given your knowledge now of clinical medicine.
As to the way doctors get treated - the number of times I’ve wanted to say “I’m not a naughty little child, please speak to me like I’m an adult human being” is alarming 😢
Perhaps because I'm not a doctor I have said, "I'm not a child so please don't speak to me as if I were", in the work place and it felt good 👍🏾
Oh My God 😳 I had No idea..... That is unacceptable! Yet I know it's the norm...How sad. I dont blame you for needing to leave. I wish you much success in whatever you choose to do next. Much love ❤️
I can totally relate to your story...as a nurse and brain injury specialist and a nurse with traumatic brain injury, myself...it's terrifying out there...doctors and nurses are treated so poorly and then fearing being honest with administration...it's a deeply serious problem...obviously it's a problem all over the world...
I wouldn’t say doctors to much, but from what I’m aware of she is from the UK and doctors get underpaid heavily in the UK so maybe that’s what motivated her to leave because the UK is just a stupid country all together they have a socialist medical system
You'd be surprised, I know docs with brain injury...
@@marksmadhousemetaphysicalm2938 brain injury in what way? Physically or mentally?
@@xplicitgoofy1015 physical...neurologic injury...
Thank you for sharing, Emma! I so relate with you in so many ways. I thought only the US healthcare system had difficulty. My co-worker once told me that I was trying to change a healthcare system that doesn't want to change. It is heartbreaking to see how the healthcare (sick care) system has reached this point. I laughed when you said, "I got claps than PPE" this sounds very familiar! I am happy for your decision! many blessings to you!
I don’t think that the institution itself doesn’t want to change. It is the people at the top that don’t want to change. And this is not just isolated to UK healthcare. The US has its own problems, despite having private healthcare. The change makers are usually the ones on the floors working with the patients and are too tired once they leave. Change only happens if the people say something.
I'm so glad you are sharing your experiences like these. I really had no idea.
I'm Italian and not in the medical field, but this video was truly impressive and powerful. Kudos to you.
This is so sad. It’s worrying on a mega scale. You have to do what is right for you and your family but I am heartbroken that this had to happen. I am in fear for me and my family as patients that we lose good GPS. If your voice can be heard Emma shout from the rooftops!! Good luck with what comes along. Hopefully you will feel able to return as a GP one day.
So informative, sad and frightening. Thank you for speaking up and out. Bless you for caring.
Thank you so much for explaining the realities of being a GP in the UK currently, your side of the story is what the average patient never gets to hear. Hope you find a fulfilling new path for yourself, wish you all the best.
Thank you so much for sharing these stories, Emma. I’m still hanging on by a thread in GP but so much of what you say resonates with me.
As fresh-faced foundation doctors ten years ago, a colleague and I were hauled into a meeting (in which we thought we would be sharing ideas to improve patient safety). Instead we were given a thorough dressing down, and warned never to raise safety on the wards as an issue again if we wanted to have a comfortable time in that trust.
That day forever altered my perception of the NHS. How those acting as “heavies” for Management sleep at night I’ve no idea.
Best of luck for everything you have planned in the future, I’m sure the NHS has lost another good ‘un!
Thank you for sharing Emma, this was very interesting to watch. It’s so sad that the NHS is losing another genuinely caring and passionate individual, but I can totally understand why you feel you can’t stay anymore. I’m horrified to hear how medical professionals, especially junior doctors are treated, but I feel it is often the case that young doctors enter the profession with such great ambition only to get beaten down by the institution they care so much about. The state of the NHS at the moment is scary, and I for one will be investigating in private health insurance in the future. As you say, the NHS is amazing at firefighting and saving lives, but the resources just aren’t there to cope with the long term health and well-being of patients. I’m sorry you feel it has come to this decision but I hope you enjoy whatever new adventure takes you on!
Thank you so much
I've been a Medical Laboratory Technologist for over 10 years. Besides all the supply and physical resource issues, because we are just in a large room all day many times doctors and nurses wouldn't even have any idea where the lab was. They only interacted with phlebotomy or lab techs on phone calls stating we need recollected specimens, calling criticals, or them asking why the test they just ordered wasn't magically done already when phlebotomy hasn't even sent it down yet. The disconnect between the media, the public, and healthcare is just the start.... the hospital itself is disconnected from all its inner parts.
As a gp trainee in the nhs, i relate so much to these points. It’s almost painful to watch the whole video because it breaks my heart. I love medicine but this is not how i envisioned it. best of luck to you❤
It's just so sad. X
I am so sorry that another good doctor is leaving practice because of the reasons you explained. I’m a nurse in the USA and have had to leave a job I once enjoyed due to unsafe staffing and lack of management leadership. Such a shame😞 Best wishes !!
You are so lovely, thank you so much for sharing and standing up♥️
This was fascinating & shocking. Thanks for sharing. Wishing you luck with your new career.
I am also a doctor who works in the NHS. All of what Emma says is absolute truth.
Sad but true. I hope you find happiness in your career.
Good for you. As a vet i have 20 min consultations. On days with no operations and only consultations, i get sooo tired. All the communication with owners, explaining and showing things, is draining. Good decision you made. Hope NHS and also the danish hospitals get better workinf conditions in future.
Thank you for your incredible insight. I am in the US but I work indirectly with the NHS in my job and it's really helpful to understand what some of the doctors there might be going through.
Sad to lose such a great Doctor. It is horrific to find out what’s really happening.
Thank you. It is very sad
I never knew you were a doctor. Thanks for your service
Wow, thank you for sharing your story. My heart goes out to you guys for what you have to deal with. 😬
Thank you so much for putting your feelings and experiences out there. I think due to career concerns lots of doctors keep their horrifying experiences to themselves. I’m a dentist but worked as an SHO In OMFS for 18 months over a decade ago and could not believe what was expected of us. Forget missing important events/needing time off but just the dangerous situations we were put in. My sister stopped GP training less than a year in as it started to seriously take a toll on her mental health and I’m so glad that she did. What GPs have to deal with, all doctors in fact is shocking. And it doesn’t work for the government’s agenda to have doctors speaking out. I ended up leaving the NHS myself after some time due to the ridiculous expectations placed by our contracts and actually patients. My nurse (who was still training) sometimes got paid more than me after a day’s work. It was insulting and demoralising. Good for you for sharing!! Hope life is joyful after the change and that you find something uplifting and motivating!
Wow you and your family have been through hard times. I hope you’re all ok. I know exactly what you mean. I guess I made this video because I tried absolutely everything I could within my role to improve things so I thought maybe I could do something with my CZcams hat on instead… crazy world we will live. Either way-I hope you and your family are all happy and healthy now
I'm so sorry that you quit. YOU ARE AN EXCEPTIONAL DOCTOR AND HUMAN BEING. It's professionals like yourself that PUT THE CARE IN CARE GIVING. I see, and experience, how quickly doctors see treat, diagnose and dimiss patients. It's ROBOTIC! It's happening everywhere. The health care business is JUST A BUSINESS. MONEY/PROFIT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN PATIENTS! This is why I've been researching "holistic treatments " in order to care for myself. I just finished reading, which I highly recommend, EAT TO BEAT DISEASE by Dr. William W. LI, MD. I find it's the "Bible of Good Health!" In addition, I make my own balms lotions, teas, for whatever is ailing me. CZcams has many people who share natural cures, or treatments . I will not be at the merciless of the health care system!!! THANK YOU, GOD BLESS YOU!!!!
Hi Emma,
Thanks for making this video. As a fellow GP working full time as a GP partner in Scotland and doing contracted OOH work I can fully empathise with everything you touched on and could add a million more stories of my own. What makes the job even harder at present is the GP bashing which is currently going on and the portrayal of us being lazy and hiding in GP practices with the doors closed. Our practice has never been closed, we have never stopped seeing patients and we are busier then ever working in a healthcare system that is about to collapse. We are at the front end and ultimately will be forced to take the blame when things go wrong ( which will happen inevitably ! ). GPs and the Out of Hours service is at breaking point. I am sick of going to work on a Sunday morning and triaging phone calls from the previous day when people have been waiting 24 hrs to speak with someone ! Patients and relatives are understandably worried and upset and of course we face their wrath on the front line. It is not my fault that nobody wants to work in this service and I understand why!! Lol, hey ho back to work tomorrow and another 50 people to see 😂😂😂
Thank you. I really value this coming from a colleague- and I get it. I remember being in my third trimester seeing a patient in A&E at 10pm on a Saturday and them informing me how GPs hardly work… I don’t need to be popular but... I hope things get so much better for you and that you have plenty of support
I really don't understand the GP bashing going on. GP clinics are simply understaffed. It's not the GPs answering calls in receptions.. they're the ones working 12-14 hour days. Why do the British public think GPs are lazy? I have no idea.
All roads in the current dystopia facing all professional fields lead back to Marxism and tyranny. The West has fallen to sinister Marxism that now sickens all of society. Empty suits and skirts in Parliament, game show hosts with the gravitas of capuchin monkies are now "legislating" and "funding" "sick care." Marxism destroys everything. England, once the beacon of liberty and freedom, is now just an open-air prison. Who wants to be a doctor in a prison?Understood. Congratulations on leaving the prison rules of modern-day "healthcare/sickcare."
"Civilization will ultimately perish from too much civilization (aka Marxist prison rules, modern terminology."
Ralph Waldo Emerson, philosopher savant
I'm so proud of you, and sad for the profession. I can unfortunately relate to so much of your story, although I'm in a different "health care "profession and in the US. My heart goes out to you. ❤ whatever profession you end up in will be infinitely blessed.
Thank you for your honesty. The last 2 years have been unbearable for physicians who are ethical and wise. Good luck in all you do. Mark Berber MD
Thank you for sharing this Emma. I've left medicine after working as a doctor for 5 years in Australia, for similar reasons as yourself. It's hard not being able to provide decent patient care and feeling powerless to change the system. Wishing you the best of luck in your future endeavors!
Articulated created. Thank you 🙏🏽 grateful for your courage and for gaining clarity over your life purpose xx
I thought it was only me as an overseas Doctor (temporarly worked for NHS) to think all this. I feel massively reassured and your talk is so enlightful to me.
A massive thank you for sharing all this!
Thanks for providing such great insight!!!
I teared up because I for one had only been in hospital for the birth of my two son's and to this day i feel like you guys are a true gift to society. I often reflect and thank God for all the Dr's and nurses caring deeply for their patients, much to the detriment of their own mental health sometimes which is really sad. Thank you for your service Dr, ❤️ from an aspiring dietitian nutritionist 💖
Thanks for sharing. Best wishes to you!
The sad fact here is that the NHS as lost such a great person. you are clearly so passionate about being a doctor and sadly we will miss out on being looked after. xox
Wow, this is interesting! My daughter just started Med School, and this information makes me uncomfortable. I will be praying for change in our health care systems. Thanks for sharing.
This is infuriating and honestly terrifying. I am so happy you are out of there Emma.
love all your videos - this one very interesting and informative such a shame no one listens to the doctors on the ground who give so much thank you 😊
Thanks for sharing your perspective
Hello Emma, I work as an Out of Hours ANP mainly doing home visits for palliative care patients. I am making the transition into other ventures for very similar reasons. I can no longer bear the workload and the guilt arriving so late that patients have passed away. I can absolutely relate to everything you have said and is so difficult to accurately get across to family members or loved ones the strain and the impact just one shift or even one patient can have on you.
I want to wish you all the best in whatever you choose to do next. I will continue to enjoy your content, anything to do with handbags is a wonderful form of escapism!
My next venture is competitions in order to win luxury handbags which is something I'd love to share with you as a fellow handbag lover!
All the best, take care Rebecca.
What a loss! It’s so sad. Working in palliative care is so rewarding but so incredibly tough. Good for you! I hope things are going well for you! X
I can't like this enough! Spoke to me all the way in the middle of the USA as someone who left mental health and substance use work after 13 years in intense crisis work within community agencies, state agencies and hospitals.
Hi Emma, I'm so sorry that you're leaving a career you love. Also, I'm sorry for the NHS, sounds like if they would listen to you things would have improved a lot. I'm a junior doctor working in psychiatry in the Netherlands, and I really love spending 30 minutes per patient and luckily in psychiatry that's possible (and necessary). I wish you well in finding a new career, and if you ever want to be a doctor again who's time to talk to patients try psychiatry in the Netherlands!
Thank you- absolutely it is! Having the time to do your job properly must be very rewarding and its lovely to hear from someone who enjoys their work- to a long and fulfilling career!
you are doctor and still scare when go to work. i dont know how many bad things you went through.
thank you for your service. you deserved to be called unsung heroes
I completely understand why you quit medicine. I have contemplated it several times but I love operating too much to leave it. I appreciate your honesty and courage so much. I would have LOVED to have been a patient of yours. We would take about luxury handbags all day!!!!
Working in healthcare is a difficult job no doubt. As a nurse in a very busy hospital I see the fatigue and the stress the physicians face, and the pandemic certainly added much to the strain of caring for patients. Very frustrating when caring for patients who are extremely ill, and dealing with lack of supplies etc.
This sounds familiar to my sister's complaints. She works in pre-assessment (having previously been a sister for 20 years on a day surgery ward). She has 15 minutes to see a patient and some are extremely complex, from multiple health issues to medication complications to anaesthetic allergies. She just doesn't have time to see them and type everything up in that slot. Her trust merged with another and they have access to an anaesthetist along with pre-assessment and her trust doesn't, yet they give her trust all of the complicated cases so there's an extra layer of back and forth which adds to the time and frustration (by her and her patients). Her managers also give her most of the work. She said she would love to quit but she can't right now.
FY2 hoping to be a GP here. I can totally see where you're coming from. Massive respect. I'm not naïve coming into this, but I just hope things get better.
Thank you for your service during the last 12 years. Medicine, nursing, physical therapy, and other healthcare professions are stressful and pose safety issues. Someone has to do these jobs. However, individuals must recognize when they've reached their limits. Healthcare professionals must protect their own mental and physical well-being.
I feel that you covered a very difficult matter with sensitivity and compassion and have learned self-compassion too.
Thank you I really appreciate that
This was so fascinating - please do share your career progress with us, you are going places and I'm so glad you're moving onwards and upwards. Ali Abdaal also quit being a doctor to pursue youtube/content creation/other things. It's been so fascinating to learn about what's happening in healthcare. There are many people like yourself leaving to start grassroots/new initiatives to help people in need/who are suffering, true systems of healing/healthcare that aren't motivated by money - there is positive change on the horizon, perhaps you'll be using your same skills in a new industry/new way, we'd love to know :))
I am truly agree with you Emma. I worked as an RN here in Canada and the shortage of staff we are dealing with it every shift is awful. It became a workload issue and patient care is always compromised. You an only do basic care practically. It very toxic and unpleasant to work now.
It really does spiral once the environment turns toxic too. But it’s bound to happen with the huge strain. I think without huge and well guided reform here in the UK nothing will improve
Hi Emma, thanks for posting this video. Until recently I was a GP partner here in the UK (for 10 years) until I found myself in a position where I couldn’t keep going any longer. I’ve been out for 6 months now and I’m still conflicted on what to do - locuming or something else totally different. I think in my heart of hearts I know locuming still has the same issues as the regular GP work though.
That’s an incredibly challenging environment to flourish in, particularly when you have a passion and purpose to help and heal people. We are pretty blessed here in Australia, however since the pandemic friends in the industry have mentioned how many people visit the Dr for minor symptoms now out of fear which is causing a strain on availability and wait times. I wonder what the answer is?
I always thought NHS was rubbish especially GPs, good to hear your side of the story.
Good luck with new chapter in your career!
I get it. I quit years ago because I could not agree to cover up medical negligence. The hospital was sued a year before for the same reason, same surgeon, same group (did not know this until later). I happened to be the resident that got the autopsy this time. Noticed what happened on day 2 of admission and was literally screaming at the EMR "WHY CAN NOBODY SEE WHAT IS HAPPENING??" Day 5 the patient passed. No question what I was going to find, and I did. I guess my autopsy report was changed. Bereaved husband and son came in to speak with the person who performed the autopsy and I missed the memo where I was supposed to say something other than the truth. Was quickly bullied into resigning shortly thereafter for "other reasons" and I did not make the connection, I left feeling like the terrible person. Took me a little while to figure it out. Best of luck to you, and to those who place the care of people before institutions, reputation, and money.
Hi Emma :) I am new to your channel but really enjoy your videos. It’s lovely to see your multidimensional personality which spans your passion for luxury goods and your professional life! I am a GP also working in the U.K. and resonate with all the reasons that ultimately led you to make a decision to leave the NHS. I appreciate it so difficult to walk away from a career you love but there is nothing more important than making yourself a priority! Please can you make a future video about life after the NHS as I would really like to see where your journey takes you. Best of luck x