Arrow Weight: Heavy or Light?
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- čas přidán 4. 09. 2024
- In this video I try to break down the pro's and con's of heavy vs. light arrows for a hunting set up.
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This is quickly becoming my favorite archery information channel.
Same, I watched one vid for info way back and have since become a fan and can binge watch video after video.. It feels like I'm in the bowshop looking around, talking shop.. I'm no fan of shopping at a mall for nothing in particular, like a woman but I could spend hours in a store like this...
Jody F it’s way better than elk shape.. that dude dan is full of himself
I went down this rabbit hole recently checking out the ranch fairy videos. Long story short I ended up with a 495-grain arrow with a 200 grain fixed blade broadhead and I'm absolutely loving it.
I shoot a 393 grain 28in draw and I'm getting 298 fps at 69 lbs with my Hoyt Alpha max . Haven't been disappointed yet great set up for deer hunting .
One of the most informative arrow weight video I’ve watched. Thank you brother for breaking it down. Great video!
Love your videos...great information and presented with a ton of common sense. I especially appreciate the explanation of the compromise between speed and arrow weight. Most Ashby followers seem to miss this distinction.
I have a 32" draw length, and shoot 65#, 481 grain at 291 FPS which gives me 91 ft.lbs at .62 M. I feel like this gives me a fairly decent compromise between speed and momentum / stopping power.
Hey Man - Love the videos! Would really appreciate a video going over workouts for better stabilization and pulling more bow weight. Keep up the great work!
Thanks Kellen, I’m a new shooter and have learned so much from your channel over the past few months! Really appreciate you sharing all of your knowledge. Another great video, keep it up
525gr total arrow weight, 14% FOC, 29” draw, 66lbs, Mathews triax. Shooting 262fps. Trajectory is just fine out to 50 yards which is my max distance. Can’t wait to see how they perform this year.
I'm set up with 530 grains with my 340 pro axis 5mm arrows. They shoot so smooth. I just bought some fob fletching for fun. I'm excited to see how they work
Time for a report
@@bpdp379 they don't work with my bow.. but my buddy loves them
Wish i found this channel earlier but i had to learn the hard way in building arrows (lots of money spent haha). Finally got a good setup 27” 350 spine with 75 grain insert and 100 grain broads
Total weight 456 grains with 15% foc
Thinking of maybe going 300 spine arrows but we’ll see
Good information. Love the videos. Your discussion here was centered on a recommended weight range for the average male archer shooting exactly 70 pounds in the common range of draw lengths. For new shooters/hunters, it may be easier to think of it as shooting the heaviest arrow you can that maintains an acceptable speed for the game and terrain you plan on hunting.
Bowtech Insanity 30" @ 64lb w/ Gold Tip Hunter XT at 420 grain is shooting 307fps.... smoking them!!
The lighter the arrow the more speed decays over distance. Getting to the animal is one thing, getting 2 holes is quite another!
Exactly, heavy arrows loose less speed than light arrows at a distance.
You help a lot thanks dude! I hope this will be seen by many archers.
I like how you see both sides of it most guys either want all the speed in the world or all the kinetic energy in the world you meet right in the middle somewhere. I totally agree you need to find that happy medium.
Shooting a 462 gr goldtip black label out of a 70 lb xpedition set on 62 lbs at 271. Works well
I agree it is important to pay attention and know your set up and to consider everything you said in the video. I wanted to share my experience.. I shot a bull elk at 18 yds, broadside. The arrow passed thru both sides and went another 8-10 yds as thats where i found my arrow. My set up: 2007 Hoyt Vulcan @ 65 lbs, 27" draw. I shot it with a Gold Tip XT Hunter, with a FOB on it.(27 1/2" ) 100 grain Slick Trick. My total arrow weight is right around 365 grains. For a short draw guy it is really hard to get those heavy weights without adding some weight in the arrow.
I agree with what your saying. I also did a ton of experimenting over the years.. I'm shooting 70# at 26" draw.. My sweet spot is 380-390gr arrow.. Broad head selection is a big factor along with van selection... I use to use a are around 400-430gr w 3 fletch blazer vans w killzone heads and I never once got a complete pass through, my arrow stopped as soon as the fletchings hit the body of a whitetail. I switched to different broad heads "all mechanical" and had the same Results. All shots were from 10-60yrds and hits from the shoulder to 2-3 ribs back... I then switched to a arrow under 400grs and to aae plastic fletch 1.6" and fletched them to 4 fletch and to a swhacker broad head.. I now git complete pass throughs at the same yardage and distance... Everyone I tried explaining this to says there's no why if I hit a whitetail in the shoulder at 60yrds I'll git a pass through until they watch a vid of me doing it or in person... Love your vids fellers.
I shoot a 378 grain arrow at 315 fps using the swhacker with 28" draw. I shot a buck in the shoulder at 27 yards and it broke both front shoulders after going through the heart. It's a great whitetail set up. I don't shoot animals further than 40 yards. At 60 yards with your short draw length I don't see how you can shoot through both shoulders. Not saying it can't happen. Just saying I'd like to see it.
Love the channel! Thank you! I do have questions regarding this video as well as a few others but I'm staying on topic. I had this issue. I shoot a Prime CT9 RH at 70#. I first shot the Easton Woodland Camo 340 spine and weighed in at 484.8 grains. It whistled so loud people asked if I shot the Seven Dwarves as my arrows whistles (LOUDLY!!!) while it worked. Speed: 305 fps. Regular 3 Fletcher Blazers. Then switched to the Dangerous Game 250 spine and weighs 768.8 grains. Dead silent! 4 Fletcher helical Bohning Zen vanes fly at 230 fps. Dead center. Same flight for field tip or the QAD Exodus. SAME HOLE!! (Sight: Axcel AccuTouch Carbon Pro, rest: QAD HDX, Release: Carter Whisper, Beestinger Hunter Stabilizers) I really love 3D and Indoor archery as well but having a tough time at finding arrows. My setup is so quite now people say it's as loud as a person taking a bite of a sandwich. Thanks for any suggestions as well as reading this BOOK of a response. Thank you. Semper Fi, CW
Since no one else answered, I'll put my "for what it's worth" comment in. I've been happy with the Gold Tip Pierce Platinum and an Ethics stainless insert/collar. With a 31" draw, 70 lbs and a 250 spine front loaded to 650 grains, it packs a nice punch. There is another arrow on the market with the same GPI, inner and outer diameter that might also be worth checking out. If I recall correctly it's a Victory.
One suggestion that may help you with arrow selection for 3D is to go with a lighter target arrow like the Black Eagle PS23 or 26 used by Dan McCarthy. They’ll weigh about 360g with a 100g Nock Crusher on the front. The lighter and fatter arrow will result in more “line grabbing” for higher scores and the increased speed will offer a much flatter trajectory. So, If your aim is slightly off, you’ll still be ok because the drop won’t be as severe. Hope this helps. Semper Fi brother.
Thanks for keeping it real.
I'm at 26.5" DL with 65# I believe I'm shooting around 460 ish grains on the FMJ 400 spine, seems to be a good set up, could probably go to a 340 spine but I felt with how short my draw and arrows are that a slightly more flexible spine would suffice.
Build with FOC they do have a lot more impact. 28'' draw maxed out 72 lb, bloodlines cut 28''.5 with 50 gr. inserts, NAP Trevix Mechanical 100gr 3 blade total 424 gr. Maybe not be considered a "real FOC arrow". It had enough FOC and KE for 3 deer. From 15 yards out to 30 yards. with complete pass throughs, All quarter away way shots. From behind the ribs and exit the opposite side right behind shoulder. Arrows berried in the ground up to the starting of fletching. You are very correct in info. Also wish you would of touched on the FOC. A arrow with heavier inserts. Putting the weight up front lose less KE in flight. Which does creating more impacted.
Our local bow shop needs to watch this. All they preach is speed. Grandson shoots a vertix, 75 lb 31 inch draw. Was shooting a 500 grain arrow at 293. I return from Colo they have him At 29 inch draw, under 400 grain arrow and 73 lb draw. His tape is off, he's shooting like crap etc plus he's leaving for Tennessee /Kentucky boarder where two of his friends have killed BC whitetail this week. Hope to get him back to at least 440 grain or he's going to have trouble tuning his fixed blade. Thanks again.
Yeah that's WAYYYY too light.
This has been extremely helpful, thank you 🙏🏹
I found a 550 grain is a happy medium speed and Bone punch through Power it flies nice and true out to 50 yards I'm only moving it 206 feet per second out of 60/29 1994 Mathews ultra light yeehaw
I love the Frugalness of this.....I was using an old PSE NOVA forever and then upgraded to a diamond sb-1 4 years ago and then to Bowtech Revolt. Honestly try and treat yourself to an upgrade since there is such a big difference now.
@@emknight84 shot my first buck with the nova
On my Hoyt nitrum 30 I run a 27in draw length, 28in axis arrows that weight in at 410 grains and 15% foc (16 grain insert and 125 grain broadhead) and at 64ib draw weight it’s shooting 320fps. For me this is perfect for the whitetail hunting especially in the woods where you really need those straight line shots to not his tree limbs and brush.
Just curious, how are you getting 320 FPS out of a 27 inch draw at 64 pounds?!?!? I shot a VXR 28 at 26 inches and 67 pounds with almost the same weight arrow and only got 266 out of it. There is no way your getting that much faster.
It does depend on what animal you're after like you said. I have a 28" draw with 70lb pull and I shot a 412 grain 340 spine arrow this past year for whitetail in the south. I had no problems with it getting great penetration with a Sevr 2.1 inch blade. I got a complete pass through on a buck at 25 yards. I shot another buck that the arrow went through the opposite side shoulder and poked out and he died less than 40 yards from the stand. The arrow travels about 304 feet per second but I wouldn't go any lighter for whitetail for myself not to say it can't be done. If I was going on an elk hunt I would not have the same set up though.
@allen Todd your specs are exactly the specs of my arrows on both my hoyt defiant turbo and Mathews V3. I only hunt whitetails and have never had a problem drilling through them with both fixed and mechanical heads. Placement is king and I'm not shooting at anything over 40 yards in my area.
The heavy vs light discussion is fascinating to me. There is a big misconception in the community with The Ranch Fairy, but the actual science that he, Darrell Barnett, and the Ashby Foundation are doing with arrow ballistics is fascinating and only benefits the archery community. It is fascinating and hopefully will open up the community to the importance of arrow ballistics research. This isn't meant to fuel the fire in the debate, I am just fascinated by the subject and the science that is being done behind it.
457 grain Easton axis, 61 pounds at 27 inch DL, and I’m only shooting 228fps through the chronograph. The pro-staff said I should stick to lighter arrows, but in a real hunting situation, this set up works pretty good for me even at long range. I think his chronograph might be broke or something.
Yeah that seems really slow. What bkw are you shooting?
27" 70lb bow 400 grains for me. Does the job every time.
Monster MR-6 80lbs 28.5 dL. 585 grain black eagle X-impact 250 spine 250 grains of broad head and SS outsert 289 FPS. 415 grain black eagle rampage with Easton rps inserts (deep six) 100 grain broad head 334FPS. Carry both in my quiver.
you mentioned nothing about noise. I've gone light and fast, and I've gone heavy. The heavy "slow" arrows I've shot are obviously better on less than ideal hits like shoulder, but I also don't have deer jump the string like seemed to be the norm with the light (400) grain arrow. I also shoot 70 lbs and 30" so it's a bit easier to run a heavy setup with good trajectory. One pin to 30 yards, and if it's farther I have time to range it. Honestly I think the greatest advantage to a heavy arrow is how well it deadens the bow. Last year I shot a buck that I misjudged the range, shot right over him, he looked where the arrow hit behind him and went back to eating grass. Calmed down, adjusted, and double lung and hearted him. With my old Gold Tip Velocity arrows the deer were on the run after the shot whether they were hit or not.
Also, my "slow" arrows are 550 grains at 260 fps.
Hi, do you think that it will improve shooting accuracy if you have a arrow scale? Thanks a lot!
200 grain single bevel broadhead for me thanks :-)
I shoot 440 grain arrow (VAP TKO) for field/outdoor target. With my PSE Shootdown and 31' DL I'm shooting at 280 fps, ideal arrow speed according to Tim Gillingham
275-300 FPS is the speed that all hunters should achieve or do there best to achieve if they can. It flys a fixed blade broadhead without tailing off being to slow (275 or below). Or parachuting away (300 or faster) because it’s going to fast. Find an arrow that weighs between 430-550 that achieves a speed between 275-300 FPS. That is a window that all the top guys (Dudley, Hanes, Bee etc...) always try to get in. There is a reason why all the top guys are in those windows of speed and arrow weight. They wouldn’t all shot in those windows if it wasn’t the best.
@@toddlymburner5783 impossible for me unless I’m shooting close to 85 pounds. I have a 26 inch draw
@@joshdennis8841 I shoot 80 pounds and have a 26 inch draw with my RX-4 Alpha. I shoot a 446 grain arrow 284 FPS. I get it not everyone can do it but most can get close with the right equipment
@@toddlymburner5783 my rotator cuff wouldn’t hold up to 80 pounds. I’m cool with 266 on a 415 grain arrow. Seems that they hit super hard with that setup.
@@joshdennis8841 if you don’t mind me asking what bow do you shoot?
I keep getting lighter and lighter and still passing through. Shooting 431grn out of my Ethos at 72lb 30” draw this year.
My daughter when in high school won a state championship in junior academy of science by testing this exact thing. Heavy slow arrows will always penetrate better, buy there is a tipping point.
Mathews vertix, 75lb 29", 452gn @304fps, gt hunter pro arrows. Deadly!
what this does not take into account is draw length, anyone with a 26" or shorter dl cannot shoot fast and it takes heavy foc for penetration for a clean kill
F or me lightweight with a. Good cutting tip works well 340 9.3gpi 29” straight pass through broke the largest rib on one side and upon exit broke the smallest rib then stuck in the ground a foot.
A heavier arrow will outperform a lighter arrow in a hunting situation every time!
Heavy arrows will go through that thick cover and if you hit bone your still good. Light arrow will deflect off a leaf
Put a 600 gr arrow on and a target being some brush and then the same with a 400 grain arrow.. of course itd not going to blow through a jungle
Jason Creech I don’t have to worry about obstacles where I hunt. The only thing stopping my arrow was a Whitetail shoulder. Now i shoot heavy arrows and don’t have that problem. If more people read the 12 penetration factors by dr Ashby we would have a lot less wounded animals
@Jason Creech Slightly but that is not the rule. The Ashby Foundation is still gathering data and has many revised/updated stats including for compound bows. The heavy arrow rule still applies when it comes to CONSTANTLY breaking large bones.
Jason Creech I never said placement is not critical, it is. The problem is that animals move, especially when they hear a noise. At any distance over 20 yards you need to assume they will not be exactly where they were when the arrow leaves the string. Tell me, do you actually have the data that demonstrates your 99.9% assertion, disproving the conclusions of the people who have hundreds of data points on this, or is that just what you think?
Excellent very good
I shoot the heaviest arrow I can with the most FOC. Also i want my arrow to get into the 270-280 FPS range. I’m shooting a Black Eagle 300, cut at 28”, 100gr point, 100gr insert, TAW 480gr, 272fps and FOC 17.05.
Great informative video. Thanks for your efforts
I wish channels would do more info like this but for recurve =/
Yeah our light arrow speed is hundred fps slower, but our heavy arrows are only a little drop from there from videos I've seen, but I real need to chrono some time
Thanks. not getting the arrow weight based on charts...most charts call for 350 spin around 8.7...for 31 inches with 100 broadhead and change for veins/nock....about 380? and websites talk about 5-6 g per bow poundage so looking at 450-500 at 64 lbs (rough). So They are basically saying TArget shooting (not taking into account sound/penetration) ?. So I'm liking you pointing out heavier arrows.. Most shops seem to carry the 330-350s and recommend them for low 60s of bow weight. I'm going to go with 300 spines I'm thinking at 9.3 or so per inch.
From physics: Objects that are said to be undergoing free fall, are not encountering a significant force of air resistance; they are falling under the sole influence of gravity. Under such conditions, all objects will fall with the same rate of acceleration, regardless of their mass. So while I do get that arrows in flight are not undergoing free fall, the same acceleration due to gravity will be acting on them. So what is causing the trajectory change berween a lighter arrow compared with a heavy arrow if the shooting angle is held constant???
The length of time to the target. In other words, the delta in the FPS between the light vs heavy arrow is what causes the difference.
Well I have shot a 42 lbs longbow for a few years with great luck on hogs and deer... 485 gr arrow at around 175 FPS with no problems to 25 yds. My point on is 40 but will not take a shot that far at a live animal.
Hi, do you think that it will improve shooting accuracy if you have a arrow scale? Thanks a lot!
Having the weight of each arrow as close to each other is definitely a good thing… if you weigh all of the components next to each other you may be shocked at the weight spread… so I would say absolutely get a scale
@@mec5texan803 thank you so much for your sincere information. If you want a brand new arrow scale, i can ask my friend to send you for free. Thank you a lot!
I’m shooting a 300 spine Sirius arrow with 20% foc a 100 gr tooth of the arrow 1” broadheads with a total weight of 515 gr
Watch ranch fairy! He broke it down with evidence of video.
He’s an interesting dude but his advice... really solid and backed up with the data.
Hes only takes 18 yard shots
@jr22green no doubt
@jr22green it’s tough for elk hunters to do that it seems.
@jr22green he hunts hogs over a feeder 🙄
FMJ with a heavy Broadhead causes the arrow to mushroom implode when it hits bone. I would go with a thick heavy aluminum arrow with insert
There's a happy median with any set up..but animals jump the string from sound .and no matter how fast your bow is if they hear it your done..you would have to shoot over 1300 fps have this not happen..this is why you see deer jump the string on so many cross bows..noise
270FPS with 550+ will kill anything and quietly. I shot a pass through with a 400 8.4gpi spine 28” ctc rage 100grain and it was a full pass through breaking largest ribs on one side and smallest on other side and stuck in the ground a foot. I shot one of my practice arrows by accident and it broke one of The blades in half but worked flawlessly but I wouldn’t do it again.
Crazy u just made this video. I was just weighing my arrows last night.
Great info as always
After many years of messing around with different arrows I finally stuck with what I have about 3 years ago.And it's pass through city. 30" draw, 74# draw weight, 30" Axis 340's, 6" dip & crest (it's weight), 4 fletch blazer, Nockturnal nock, standard insert w/ 100 grain head. And added 12 grain footers to strengthen the business end and improve FOC, they come in at 474 grain total arrow weight. Plenty of energy, averaging 273 fps and the arrows fly "perfect".
Brandon McDonald just put out his third arrow video with a really good visual representation of trajectory and time to target. 75 pound bow at 70 yards, 400 grain arrow vs 800 grain arrow. They both hit almost at the same time but the arc was much higher with the heavy arrow. Time to target difference between 400 and 800 grains at 40 yards is about 0.1 seconds.
The truer analogy is if you threw a softball and a baseball, my 390 gn arrow at 320 FPS penetrated as far as my 495 gn at 272 FPS but shooting a 50 yard target holding on a 60 yard pin is a 1 inch difference with the same experiment with heavy arrow there’s a 6 inch difference flat shooting is king! am I crazy or does this make sense 🏹 🤷🏽♂️
FOC is as important arrow weight, if not more. Two arrows of equal weight, the one with the higher FOC is "More gooder" . If an arrow has no punching power at distance, it doesn't matter how fast it gets there. I would rather have a bad shot with a heavy arrow than a bad shot with a light one. Just saying - stuff happens and nobody's perfect 100%. Know your bow & arrow setup and take ethical shots. For me that means 30 yards is max hunting distance. Shooting 3D critters is another story. I can reach out to 60, but to have a clean quick kill I prefer 20yards. If you shoot from an elevated stand, take a few practice shots to know how your arrow responds. Good Luck out there.
Great video and tips!
480gr, 14% foc, 29.5 draw, Onieda Aeroforce set at 50lbs 225fps
Your first problem is the Oneida lol
@Inside Out Precision Nah I like actually being able to work on my bow lol. But I'll probably up the poundage to 80 before I set the pins for hunting that should net me around another 35 fps I'm just getting back into form right now so have poundage low
@@Catboy-hr2qp haha yeah I’m jk, if your shoot it well and it’s comfortable that’s all that matters!!
I’m shooting Easton Axis 300 spins with the Vertix at with what Matthews says is a 29” draw and 70lbs. Once I switched to the Axis from the Gold Hunter my arrows stopped breaking on shots. Once again you nailed it with this video. I learned a lot and really like the physics lesson. Totally forgot kinetic energy isn’t linear. I’m assuming my rig will shoot about 8-10 ft slower than yours. What broadhead are you recommending for this year? I hunt whitetail out of a tree saddle and my shots are never beyond 40 yards cuz I hunt in the woods.
Do you think you could do some Trad videos? You have an excellent way of explaining your points.
Funny, I just called and talked to Wayne w that exact question.
I would like to see you actually do a video on the difference between a 600 grain Arrow at 240 ft per second and a 380 grain Arrow at 280 feet per second I think you would be surprised that there isn't a huge difference in drop we sight or bows in for whatever range we typically shoot to me 40 or 50 yard shot is a bit ridiculous and last maybe you're an elk Hunter where I typically hun are shots range 15 to 25 yards so it has no bearing whatsoever shooting a 700 grain Arrow the difference in Arrow flight with 25 to 30% FOC is immeasurable you need to try it
Id never shoot a 380 grain arrow for hunting. Im not for extremely light arrows. I like to see people in the 440-500 range depending on their draw length/weight. Ive blown through every elk I've shot with an arrow in that weight range
Out west 40-50 yard shots are very common.
I like the victory xtortions but they are finished weight on a 29 inch arrow with the 35 grain outserts they have to bump up foc, come in at 536 grains. At 65 pounds the RX3 is pushing them at about 264 ft./s if I max out the bow at 70 pounds now they’re pushing about 273 ft./s
I still think that’s plenty fast enough hunting up here in New Hampshire where it will mostly be used from a tree stand on Whitetail. Thoughts?
Okay so I’ve owned a bow for all of 3 weeks now... it’s a nice bow and was a gift.... it came with 50-60 pound limbs that I believe are maxed out.... my draw length is all of 27”.... the bow is a prime Rize and the g5 web site says about 330 FPS.....I’ve been shooting a 340 grain gold tip hunter with it cut at the center of the riser with I believe 100 grain field point and what ever insert the shop put in it.. first, what is that speed from the factory figured on and then what size fixed broadheads and weighted inserts (if any) do I need for hunting white tail and hogs.... I’m looking at switching to the gold tip kenetic platinums or the black label quantum’s for my hunting arrows (smaller diameter arrows) and would like a nockturnal lighted nock.... im not dead set on gold tips, it’s just what is at the closer local shop... there is another shop only 15 minutes further that I believe also has Easton and carbon express.... what fletched and cut weight arrow should I stay around, what weight should I be at on the front end and what total weight should I try to stick close to???I’m just trying to make sure I don’t injure an animal without recovering it.... but I’d like to be able to harvest a nice deer. As soon as I can find heavier limbs, I’ll change them. But on a budget right this minute
When you speak of a “standard insert”, what is that? How many grains?
Most are between 15 and 20 grains
I shoot a 70 lbs, 25 inches draw length Mathews TX5. What arrow weight should I use to hunt deer?
Shoot a FMJ 400. You'll be spined correctly and still get good overall weight out of it. Most carbon arrows will be really light if cut to 26"
My 2 cents.
Shoot a 27" axis 340 arrow with a 50 or 75 grain hit insert.
I have a shorter draw length of 26” and have debated switching to the Easton FMJ 5mm but have heard that I have to short of a drawlength to shoot that arrow further than 40 yards. Do you agree? If so what would you recommend? I’m currently pulling 60lbs but I should be pulling 70lbs in the next 6 months or so
I do not agree in the least bit. Having said that, if you want to pick up some speed, move to an Easton Axis arrow. The spine will be the same but you'll decrease your overall weight by 25- 40 grains. But just because you're shooting a heavy arrow right now doesn't mean you can't shoot longer distances.
You can shoot as far as your sight will allow.
what about 25o or 350 grains arrow to a 50 pounds bow or 70 pounds one to hunting the only thing im worry for its to not get an accident shooting a light arrow that will get broke in half for the bow strngh and hit my arm or forearm
Real curious what you would suggest for speed also I'm at 29.5 draw upgraded my bow to a 34 carbon defiant 80lb shooting 309fps and 408g goldtip hunter xt 300 spine.
Dont worry about speed. I shoot the same arrows, but 30" draw and only #60. 530 gr and 17% foc. They fly like darts and pass through bone if they have to. Step up to some 100gr brass inserts and stop shooting skeet loads.
Good video and you was right about my center shot being off thanks . My question. I shoot trx 38, 60 pounds, and 30inch draw can you recommend a good arrow setup for 3D
Easton super drive 25
i’m getting more FMJs. right now, i’m shooting a 28” 340 spine at 70lbs with the Tx5. i was wondering if i should go with the 300 spine like the charts say to. after all the additions of the shorter brace height(5in) and IBO speed it says i should be shooting the 300. the 12 gpi seems a little heavy though.
My FMJ 300’s are coming in at 504 on the scale at the bow shop. Shooting the Mathews Halon 32, 29” draw with 65#. Having good results but curious on your thoughts if you would recommend changing.
Thank you
Im not a hunter, shooting long distance 50-100m with xpedite 68# with VAP 300 , 380gr and its less parabole like heavy arrow and very fast, cant be beter.
Just curious about your opinion. I shoot the Elite Era set at 68 lbs 27 1/2" draw. Am I better off shooting a 485 grain arrow 11.4 foc 260 fps, a 460 grain arrow 9.4 foc 270 fps, 448 grain arrow 8.6 Foc approx 275 fps? Thanks for all the information you provide. I appreciate any insight you have for me on this issue.
I’d try to get an arrow around the 440-450 mark with 12-16 FOC. An elite RIP TKO 350 cut to 26.6 with the 75grain insert would be oerfdct
Thank you for such a well thought out answer. How much would you charge to build 3 of these with the 50 grain insert ( I am shooting 125 grain broadhead) and ship them to 37803? I would want 3 AAE Maxx 3" vains. Thanks again for putting some thought into this answer and giving me an option I hadn't considered.
hmm. maybe thinking too much but So is it better to go up on weight for arrow shaft and go with 100 grain head or go lighter arrow and 125 head?
So how can us guys with ape hanger arms get some assistance with some lighter set ups and solve our wicked weight woes? I have a 31.5 inch draw length and I"m shooting 70lbs out of my new Traverse. Love the bow. I'm using Black Eagle Rampage 250 spine with 125 grain tips, 51 grain BE half-outserts with AAE Max Stealth 4 fletch. They weight 578 grains. They hit like a mack truck but I still think that it is too heavy and slow for whitetail. I have yet to Chrono this set up and will this week to see where it's at speed wise. Any suggestions for a lighter weight arrows that won't break the bank or leave me single?
Today im gona testing the Easton Axis5mm 300spine arrow whit 70pound. Its about 450grain i think:-)
thanks good info
So I have a 31.5 draw length would a 489 grain arow be ok or is that getting heavy I shoot 80 lbs aswell I need heavier arows to a degree I think for safety I tried light arows I'd have so much string vibration or something it would brake knocks and rip off my kisser button constantly
Yeah at 80lbs and 31.5 your arrow should be at least 500. I’d think one in the 525-550 range would be great
@@InsideOutPrecision I was shooting s 430 and I was having problems
Great vid. im just getting back to compound and just got a bear cruzer g2. My setup for now is 50lbs. 26in draw. should i switch to micro arrows or can i stay with standard? if i switch to micro ill have to get a new rest. i weighed my arrows and it was 386 with 100 grain broadhead. should i switch to micro or what could i build with a standard? Thanks
Kudos on the short draw length mention! What about arrow weight for target archers?
350 grains as light as you can if you're only punching paper it doesn't matter what it does when it gets there
Weight of target arrows doesn't really matter because you don't care how it penetrates. Lighter arrows will give you more forgiveness if you misjudge the distance if a target, as well as get if the bow faster, giving you less time to screw things up.
Question: does arrow "thinness" come into consideration for hunting arrows or is it not a big deal?
Small diameter arrows definetly help with penetration punching a hole in a animal.
That's why they make a EZV sight.
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Have you calculated how many grains per pound of draw weight your ideal set up works out to be?
Hi, do you think that it will improve shooting accuracy if you have a arrow scale? Thanks a lot!
I'm shooting arrows just under 450grs total weight, 70lb draw @ 29.5" from a PSE Stinger. My longest shot will probably be 20 yards in the woods. ArcheryCalc says 67 and change ft.lbs. of energy at just shy of 260fps. Should be plenty good for Whitetail, right?
That would destroy an elk too
I could use some advice. I shoot a mathews switchback. I'm a 28.5 draw, 70# limbs (I have to check what may actual weight is set at) and I recently purchased some easton hexx arrows online. The shop recommended 400 spine even though by the chart I should be at 330 spine. I shoot 100 grain broadheads with standard insert and typical blazer vanes. I haven't had my arrows cut yet (28.25" insert to center of nock) but something tells me he underrated my spine. Can I get these cut and shoot without worry or should I push for a swap to the 330 spine?
What's your actual draw weight?
Question I just weighed my arrows and is around 540 grains.. my arrows are Easton axis 300 spine with a 75 grain insert and a 100 grain point .. I'm shooting at a 65 lbs and 29.5 in draw .is this to heavy???
Definitely heavy, but they probably spine out just about right.
I have a draw length of 26" and pull weight of 60lbs and running arrows at 388 in weight and that's after switching from 100 gr to 125 broad heads, Am I fighting my way uphill with my setup?
I have a 26 inch draw as well, we are fighting an uphill battle for sure. I’m lucky that I can shoot 80 pound draw weight no problem. I get my arrows 440 grains moving 286 FPS. If I’m you all you really have to do is keep your shots within 25 yards.
New to archery here I'm shooting a diamond edge 320 at 60lbs (working my way to 70lbs) with a 28.5 draw length. Im not going to shoot anything past 40 yards. What arrow weight would best suit me?
Hi, do you think that it will improve shooting accuracy if you have a arrow scale? Thanks a lot!
What do you think about adding weight to the arrow by installing nylon rope in the tube?
Hi, do you think that it will improve shooting accuracy if you have a arrow scale? Thanks a lot!
What about a 60lb draw at 27 and a half dl
I’m a 30.5” draw at 66 lbs. Shooting a 300 spine black eagle spartan with 50 gn insert and 100 gn Broadhead. Arrow weighs 508 gn, Shooting about 280 fps. You think I should try and drop some weight?
Nah that's great speed for a heavy arrow.
What bow are you shooting, Wade?
No I think that should shoot really well. You could take some weight off if you were looking to pick up some speed, but I wouldn't drop below 470ish
When you say a 450 grain arrow, does that mean a 350 grain arrow with a 100 grain field point? Or is that the weight without the point?
Total arrow weight. What ever tip u want.
Same
Hi, do you think that it will improve shooting accuracy if you have a arrow scale? Thanks a lot!
I have a random arrow question. What is your opinion on lighted nocks? Do they effect your accuracy? Are they necessary? What kinds do you like?
I haven't found any that I like enough to run them. The nock itself just isn't consistent enough. Of the ones I have seen and sold though, nockturnals, glory nocks, and nock outs seem to be the best
Inside Out Precision Hey thanks for responding! Do you mean accuracy or weight by consistency?
@@dylancowling8774 mostly accuracy. After they've been shot a bunch they bend/break and you get an arrow that flies crazy. Brand new out of the package they're fine though.
They weigh 26gr. I keep a new set on the broadheads and practice with normal nocccks but weighted to 26gr with BBs from a shotshell and superglue
^^nockturnal brand
Awesome
Hi, do you think that it will improve shooting accuracy if you have a arrow scale? Thanks a lot!