Marvel Champions Hero Tier List
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- (Does not include NeXt expansion or later, as I have not yet played those heroes)
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Oh look, a normal distribution lol
Little disrespectful to my boys Hawkeye and war machine but you get the thumbs up for Rogue, she’s become a top 3 for me in both power and fun
For Ms Marvel, with Honed Technique, some multi thwart cards and multi attack cards, and how fast she can set up sometimes, I say she is better than Ironman.
She is upper mid tier for me at least.
I am very curious how you build Cyclops. Even if you limit to 6 allies you can take any X-Men ally you want so just take the 6 best with staying power(Wolverine, Psylocke, Iceman, etc.) and then profit from his highly efficient multitasking capabilities.
My point was that I don't take advantage of his ability to include "better" X-Men allies in any meaningful way, not *just* because of the 6 ally limit, although that plays a role I'm sure. It's more the same mindset that pushed me to a 6 ally limit has pushed me away from any kind of optimization on this metric of ally inclusion. So, I don't take the 6 "best" allies...because it's just not how I approach the question of which allies to include in a deck. I think the power level of my Cyclops decks are effectively equivalent to if he did not have the ability at all, and just had the normal aspect limitation on allies.
I think he's a good hero apart from his ally inclusion ability, that based on discussions gets to be crazy OP when you lean into the ally stuff. My experience is that without any ally focus, he's good, but not crazy...admittedly, it's not like I've played him a ton. He's fun, but pretty middle-of-the-pack for me...being fairly new and in the 20's in terms of preference and not being chosen for a campaign run-through at any point, I think I've probably played like 5-6 games with him at most.
Hawkeyes arrows are more efficient than most other hero/aspect cards imo. 1 cost event for 3 damage AoE is well above the curve as long as 1 minion is in play. 2 for 6 and piercing is slightly above the curve because of piercing. The status effect ones are always efficient as long as the villain isn’t steady/stalwart. Not as efficient as miles or strange or spider women, but more efficient than the heroes in the tier above her
That's fair. What I was trying to communicate was that his events are not on a level where they are worth exhausting the unique bow resource, IMO. It feels to me like if that were not required Hawkeye would be a decently strong hero on his event-value, but still only matching the upper tier heroes, not exceeding them.
@@Theorel_CardText I agree, the bow could do something else entirely and he would be stronger, and this would probably be a better design choice (although less thematic). However, personally I think that he is still not as low as you rank him, as he normally has frequent access to either stun or confuse which helps his low survivability, and he has a low cost curve especially if you get resource generators out.
Wow, never seen anyone think ms marvel is lower mid tier. She can be one of the strongest heroes in the game.
I mean, she can be strong sure. I dunno about strongest, that's some really stiff competition, and I don't think a late-game Ms Marvel is really in that competition, she might mix it up with the upper-mid/high tiers when she's firing on all cylinders. The main issue with Ms Marvel is that she's not always firing on all cylinders. Her early game can struggle, she needs to get her build cards when she can afford them (or get her friends and family out first), and then finally, if she doesn't draw the events she needs then, well, she can't do the things she can't do. I like Ms Marvel, she's a very fun hero, I've played her a lot, but she just has bad games at a frequency that those higher tier heroes don't. And her good games are not competing with Miles or Scarlet Witch, they're more competing with Iron Man or Gamora.
@@Theorel_CardText have you played the justice Ms Marvel? Using turning the tide? In solo and in two player it’s so good. Have won almost every campaign on expert with her justice build. The only villain it’s struggled against was Ronan and I don’t 100% blame me marvel for that.
My latest Ms Marvel deck was Justice, yeah. It's good, I prefer her in Aggression personally, just because I think the deck is more interesting. But, anyways, she can win games, for sure, most heroes can. I think if I were to put in some demarcations on the tiers, I'd say that the characters above mid-tier can win a game in spite of the characters below mid tier, even when they have a rough game. The character below mid-tier will drop games if something doesn't line up. The characters in mid-tier anywhere can usually pull off a win even if their deck is struggling. What they can't do is consistently carry a second struggling deck, for one reason or another. Just in terms of mechanically what Ms Marvel needs is: Build Time, Alter-Ego Access, and Appropriate Events. I've felt each of those things bring her down in games I've played, whether solo or multiplayer, with a frequency that has pushed her to that lower-mid tier. If she can go to alter-ego with impunity, and take the time to build then she can "keep up" with heroes above her, but if she can't she can't bring *up* a hero below her. As for her being in the *lower* mid-tier, I just feel like those struggles are more prevalent than for heroes above her also in mid tier.
She's better than all the other heroes you put in that tier. I'm not sure she's so much better mid or upper mid on a good day, but not lower. That said I don't think there's anyone more than one row away from where I would put them.
I mean, I certainly debated it...but I don't think she's necessarily better than all the other heroes in that tier. I think there's potentially a division there between Thor, Drax, and She-Hulk vs Ms Marvel, Wasp, and Colossus. Ultimately, it's more of a gut feeling, and a looking at it and saying "yep, that feels right", with an attempt at explaining why I think I feel that way.