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Thanks brother. I'd never cleaned a lawnmower carb and was given an HRN216 that someone I knew was going to toss. It was bought in the Spring of 2022 and used for one mowing season. I was told the air filter cover and filter had vanished near the end of the '22 mowing season and it wouldn't start. Then it was abandoned and left outside for 1.5 years, with a full tank of 10% ethanol gas and oil that had never been changed. Man, the gas in the tank and inside of the carb were both nasty. I did exactly what you did (and changed the plug, oil and blade). When I finished, I had no confidence I had done everything right, or that a lawnmower sitting outside for 1.5 years with a full tank of 10% ethanol gas had any hope of starting. Man, on the first pull it tried to start and then it fired right up on the 2nd pull. It was a good and steady engine sound. That felt awesome. Thanks for the help sir. That was a damn good tutorial.
Thanks for watching! For me, it's all about the subs, so it makes my day when I hear something like this. 👍 45 minutes is pretty good for someone who doesn't do this all the time. Tell friends about the channel, I am always trying to get bigger, and we take requests. 😁
Thanks for this. Nothing worked for me until I threw it in the ultrasonic. Thanks for that tip. I've now ordered a separate ultrasonic cleaner just for the garage.
I am glad to hear it worked for you. The ultrasonic can get to places nothing else can get to. You buy a decent ultrasonic once and never buy another carb 👍
Thanks. The new ones address most of the service issues. They went from being a pain to work on to being about equal with the legendary Quantum, my favorite to work on. They sure sell fast!
awesome buddy This is exactly the same problem I have I think my machine is also very I couldn't use it for one year and not started, I will try this, Thanks a lot.
When they sit a while, drain the fuel, clean the carb(focus on the jets, that's where the money is LOL) and they start right up 99% of the time. Let me know how it goes... and feel free to ask questions
I bought a mini bike and a toro from the guy who got it. He said, "Let me know when it's done..". I felt I got a good deal on the mini bike and whatnot, so I gave it to him really cheap.
95% of them come to me. I try to limit my wandering to maybe 20 miles. I live north of Ft Worth with Dallas 15 miles to my east, driving through Dallas makes almost anything not worth the trip, but going north or west is a nice little scenic ride so if the mood strikes I will go further.
My older brother once had me hold the coil wire on a Chevy when I was a kid…shocking. I learned to never do that again, and never listen to my sadistic brother again either, must be those German genes from grandpa. 🤬
I think that's a rite of passage. I accidentally got my little brother by having him hold a plug against a header to watch for spark. He didn't understand that the plug has to be touching the header.
Another case of old gas clogging up the works. The ultrasonic cleaner is really paying for itself. Another good one, Bill. Something about the lighting in that shop today makes you appear so young!
@@waynestefinashen239 LOL just an ongoing little joke about how old he is. But you must admit, he does look much older than 23?? And those lights in the shop...do you notice how it brings out the highlights in his hair" Hahahahahaha
Sorry it took so long, but it took some digging to find a part #, I rarely buy a carb for a 4 stroke motor and rebuilt this one. The part# I found is 16100-Z9L-811 for that one. If you are buying it, visually compare it to yours before ordering it, just to be sure it's right for your motor. Let me know how it goes. 👍
It did, he saw it while I was working on it and I said "I should get at least... or of it" and be said "let me know when it's done" . I realized I lowballed myself but figured I didn't lose anything so... all good. 🙂
Now Honda is getting out of push mower’s, with the exception of the commercial market, the ones on the showroom floors are the last. I had a Honda riding mower that I bought from a retiring truck driver, I sold it to a friend because I wanted a zero turn. They last sold them in the US in the 1990’s, it still runs great b
I have heard that more than once along the way... we will see. I am sad about it, but I can see a day where piston driven mowers are no longer available to buy new from any of the current companies.
Bill the first thing I do on a Honda is pull those crappy hose clamps off and put real ones on..... I can't stand those. (JMO) Good job on the cleaning. 👍
Had a commercial Toro two stroke run for 20 years without a carb rebuild. It ran excellent, but grandma sold it to the gardner for $100. these new ones are junky, the jet on the top with the screw clogs up all the time.
I agree, I feel old when I say it but, they don't make them like they used to. Yours probably went that long without a rebuild because you took care of it, and it was used regularly. Mowers hate sitting around.
The Honda mowers are an easy sell, but i never get a Honda mower. Ive had plenty of craftsman, Husqvarnas, toros, lawnboys with honda power and they sell great. Bill, around hear to get a non running 2 year old honda mower i would have to spend $200+. No room for profit! 👍🎥🇺🇸
I usually don't make much of anything selling them. I could have gotten $300 fast for this one, but I let it go for $200. I prefer to chase mowers with Quantum motors, but lately, it's been all Hondas and Kohlers. I usually pay between 50 and 100 for a mower that nice. I paid top dollar for this one, but it was an easy fix, and it was already gone when I did the final clip for the video.
I was messing with an older Honda last few days. It sat all winter, and started second pull on Sunday. I cut my front yard with it, all seemed well. Monday it was hydrolocked, with the air filter also soaked in gas. Took the carb off, took it apart, cleaned it in my new Vevor ultrasonic cleaner, and it passed the vacuum test. But the needle/ float combo doesn’t seem right. The base of the needle seems too small, like it could come separated from the plastic float and that is what failed causing the hydrolock I think. Might just be new carb time, I don’t have a good comparison and no idea of the history. It might have the wrong needle in it.
If you are sure it was tinkered with, replace it, just to be safe. In any case, flush the tank well and replace the fuel line, I am betting the carb is ok and just needed a good cleaning, and the fuel line is the culprit
I agree. The reason I don't is the ultrasonic hasn't failed me yet, so I don't bother with them on carbs where they are pressed in rather than being held in by the jet
Yes. The tank was on that side. The only danger to tipping it towards the carb is getting oil in the carb and possibly the air filter, and they were coming off anyway.
@@GuysPlayingWithToolsI would post a picture, but no matter what I do it won’t allow camera access. I have an impact screwdriver, two sizes, with JIS heads. They are a life saver for all my Japanese/Chinese equipment. Hit the end with a hammer, and it loosens frozen screws. They are not expensive either.
These honda self propelled mowers have a GIGANTIC FLAW! Honda in their infinite wisdom decided a tiny red straw inside the fuel line would work well as a fuel filter. NOPE! it lets crap clog up the tiny little jet inside the carb and your honda is dead in the water. So to avoid this issue you have to put a real fuel filter inline with the fuel hose. Unfortunately I have searched everywhere to find a super short filter with the right inlet and outlets...And let me tell you thats about as rare as hens teeth. The amazon filters i ended up with have a tiny inlet /outlet that are so short they only have 1 single barb so of course they pop off and let all your gas leak out. Had to JB weld the POS filter just to sort of get it to fit! And on a side note I cant stand the jig saw puzzle that is the carburetor and all the crap that mounts to it. I hope yall never have to take one off because you need 3 hands and some reference pictures to put the damn thing back together. I am EXTREMELY disappointed in honda. Will never buy another one of these mowers!!!!
I prefer the Briggs motors too. Honda came up with the carb design 30+ years ago, and it hasn't changed a bit. I am in Texas, so dirt and dust can get into the fuel. If I have a mower going out that I am sure it's heading into a dusty environment, I pull the shutoff and replace it with a 1/4 filter from the local auto parts store. Pulling a Honda carb gets easier with practice, but when you work on ANY Briggs motor, you remember what a pain the Hondas can be.
I have one of these mowers. The issue is that the screen on the gas tank lets all the dirt into the carb and clogs it. If you mow in a dusty area, the dirt accumulates around the gas cap under the vent and gets into the tank when removing the cap. Between that, the deck that has started to rust and peel paint, and the rear wheel cogs that get stuck, I'll never buy another honda mower. Its worse than the Husqvarna I had!
I can't(and wouldn't) take credit for the design. I am not a huge Honda fan either. IMHO, a Troy-Bilt with a Briggs Quantum motor is all anybody would need, and if it's stored in a shed and given basic maintenance, it will usually last longer than the owner. 👍I kinda like the Toro deck better but if we are talking about basic mowers, it costs a little more(and usually has the same motor)
These new Honda mowers are temperamental in cold weather! I been using non ethanol gasoline, new thermowax, cleaned carb. If temps are under 60 it’s hard to start. I got an hrx217hya. Very disappointed
There is something to be said about the Briggs motors. They handle handle and cold better. I don't use the non-ethanol fuel, but I am good about draining everything that might sit a while. If you do that, you don't need it.
@@GuysPlayingWithTools yeah idk what Honda did to their last production mowers with the gcv 170 and 200 engines. I believe they screwed up due to government regulations. Wish I kept my old Honda
Thanks brother. I'd never cleaned a lawnmower carb and was given an HRN216 that someone I knew was going to toss. It was bought in the Spring of 2022 and used for one mowing season. I was told the air filter cover and filter had vanished near the end of the '22 mowing season and it wouldn't start. Then it was abandoned and left outside for 1.5 years, with a full tank of 10% ethanol gas and oil that had never been changed. Man, the gas in the tank and inside of the carb were both nasty. I did exactly what you did (and changed the plug, oil and blade). When I finished, I had no confidence I had done everything right, or that a lawnmower sitting outside for 1.5 years with a full tank of 10% ethanol gas had any hope of starting. Man, on the first pull it tried to start and then it fired right up on the 2nd pull. It was a good and steady engine sound. That felt awesome. Thanks for the help sir. That was a damn good tutorial.
This just made my day. I love hearing from people who watch the videos and walk away with the knowledge and the confidence to give it a try.👍
Wow thanks for the video. Followed your instructions and it took 45minutes to fix my lawn mower 👍🏼
Thanks for watching! For me, it's all about the subs, so it makes my day when I hear something like this. 👍 45 minutes is pretty good for someone who doesn't do this all the time. Tell friends about the channel, I am always trying to get bigger, and we take requests. 😁
My fav engines. You did a top job getting it running sweet. Great video.
Thanks mate! I used to dread Hondas but the newer ones are fun to work on
Thanks for this. Nothing worked for me until I threw it in the ultrasonic. Thanks for that tip. I've now ordered a separate ultrasonic cleaner just for the garage.
I am glad to hear it worked for you.
The ultrasonic can get to places nothing else can get to. You buy a decent ultrasonic once and never buy another carb 👍
Nice purchase there Bill they build an excellent mower.
Thanks. The new ones address most of the service issues. They went from being a pain to work on to being about equal with the legendary Quantum, my favorite to work on.
They sure sell fast!
That is a nice mower. 15:27 :-) nice
I think I said it was really nice about 3 times 🤣, I liked that one s lot.
awesome buddy
This is exactly the same problem I have I think my machine is also very I couldn't use it for one year and not started, I will try this, Thanks a lot.
When they sit a while, drain the fuel, clean the carb(focus on the jets, that's where the money is LOL) and they start right up 99% of the time.
Let me know how it goes... and feel free to ask questions
The keys to the City🙃🤣{10}Love them Honda's this one looks like new👍🏾
😁 It's 2 years old. If I hadn't f promised it to someone I might have kept it.
@@GuysPlayingWithTools I know that feeling I had the same with that Husqvarna rider I found for a friend 👍🏽
I bought a mini bike and a toro from the guy who got it. He said, "Let me know when it's done..". I felt I got a good deal on the mini bike and whatnot, so I gave it to him really cheap.
Good video Bill. What's the distance you normally drive to pick up machines?
95% of them come to me. I try to limit my wandering to maybe 20 miles.
I live north of Ft Worth with Dallas 15 miles to my east, driving through Dallas makes almost anything not worth the trip, but going north or west is a nice little scenic ride so if the mood strikes I will go further.
My older brother once had me hold the coil wire on a Chevy when I was a kid…shocking. I learned to never do that again, and never listen to my sadistic brother again either, must be those German genes from grandpa. 🤬
I think that's a rite of passage. I accidentally got my little brother by having him hold a plug against a header to watch for spark. He didn't understand that the plug has to be touching the header.
Another case of old gas clogging up the works. The ultrasonic cleaner is really paying for itself. Another good one, Bill. Something about the lighting in that shop today makes you appear so young!
I am only 23, and the light makes me look older so all you old guys will take me seriously. 🤣
Ethanol fuel... the #1 killer of small engines
Are you hitting on Bill?
He is married you know!
@@waynestefinashen239 I know.
@@waynestefinashen239 LOL just an ongoing little joke about how old he is. But you must admit, he does look much older than 23?? And those lights in the shop...do you notice how it brings out the highlights in his hair" Hahahahahaha
Did you list part number for carb? I hear its hard to find correct carb online. Love the video
I am on the road picking go carts today but I will look it up when I get back. It's a pretty common carb.
Sorry it took so long, but it took some digging to find a part #, I rarely buy a carb for a 4 stroke motor and rebuilt this one.
The part# I found is 16100-Z9L-811 for that one. If you are buying it, visually compare it to yours before ordering it, just to be sure it's right for your motor. Let me know how it goes. 👍
Really good bill, sold in a hour boy oh boy
It did, he saw it while I was working on it and I said "I should get at least... or of it" and be said "let me know when it's done" . I realized I lowballed myself but figured I didn't lose anything so... all good. 🙂
Now Honda is getting out of push mower’s, with the exception of the commercial market, the ones on the showroom floors are the last. I had a Honda riding mower that I bought from a retiring truck driver, I sold it to a friend because I wanted a zero turn. They last sold them in the US in the 1990’s, it still runs great b
I have heard that more than once along the way... we will see. I am sad about it, but I can see a day where piston driven mowers are no longer available to buy new from any of the current companies.
You did check the oil😊
Always! I don't want another smoke show!
Bill the first thing I do on a Honda is pull those crappy hose clamps off and put real ones on..... I can't stand those. (JMO)
Good job on the cleaning. 👍
Sometimes I do too, but this one was only 2 years old, and they were still in good shape. I like to do fuel lines too but...2 years old 🙂
I was talking about those crappy wire clamps, not the fuel lines.
Yeah, they are a bit on the cheap side, I only left them because it was pretty new
Had a commercial Toro two stroke run for 20 years without a carb rebuild. It ran excellent, but grandma sold it to the gardner for $100. these new ones are junky, the jet on the top with the screw clogs up all the time.
I agree, I feel old when I say it but, they don't make them like they used to. Yours probably went that long without a rebuild because you took care of it, and it was used regularly. Mowers hate sitting around.
The Honda mowers are an easy sell, but i never get a Honda mower. Ive had plenty of craftsman, Husqvarnas, toros, lawnboys with honda power and they sell great. Bill, around hear to get a non running 2 year old honda mower i would have to spend $200+. No room for profit! 👍🎥🇺🇸
I usually don't make much of anything selling them. I could have gotten $300 fast for this one, but I let it go for $200. I prefer to chase mowers with Quantum motors, but lately, it's been all Hondas and Kohlers. I usually pay between 50 and 100 for a mower that nice. I paid top dollar for this one, but it was an easy fix, and it was already gone when I did the final clip for the video.
I was messing with an older Honda last few days. It sat all winter, and started second pull on Sunday. I cut my front yard with it, all seemed well. Monday it was hydrolocked, with the air filter also soaked in gas. Took the carb off, took it apart, cleaned it in my new Vevor ultrasonic cleaner, and it passed the vacuum test. But the needle/ float combo doesn’t seem right. The base of the needle seems too small, like it could come separated from the plastic float and that is what failed causing the hydrolock I think. Might just be new carb time, I don’t have a good comparison and no idea of the history. It might have the wrong needle in it.
If you are sure it was tinkered with, replace it, just to be safe. In any case, flush the tank well and replace the fuel line, I am betting the carb is ok and just needed a good cleaning, and the fuel line is the culprit
@@GuysPlayingWithTools it just doesn’t look right. Amazon will have me a new one tomorrow. I might take the new one apart to compare.
I know the feeling. Keep me updated
Cha ching quick sale 💰the only kind to have !
I sold it really, really cheap. It was a nice guy and I bought a mini-bike from him last week so I didn't mind.
Would have taken the emulsion tube out that’s under the main jet. There’s a lot of little holes in it that ultrasonic might not get to.
I agree. The reason I don't is the ultrasonic hasn't failed me yet, so I don't bother with them on carbs where they are pressed in rather than being held in by the jet
I noticed after cleaning, you did not apply lubricant i.e. oil or silicone to the carborator. Why not?
I usually don't, but you have my curiosity. What would you use silicone for in this case?
Did guys playing with tools get his air conditioning put in if so what’s the btus of your air conditioning also does it keep the shop cool
I am still a few weeks out for the air. I am planning on 12k btu. I have a lot of projects(don't we all!), and it's #3 on the list
Did you just tip that on the air filter side to empty the tank?
Yes. The tank was on that side. The only danger to tipping it towards the carb is getting oil in the carb and possibly the air filter, and they were coming off anyway.
Probably nine times out of ten it’s gummy gas and jets and passages in carb.
Clean it and fresh gas away she goes.
Yup. I get sooo many of these...
Do you use a JIS compatible screwdriver to remove the Phillips head screw from the carb.
Probably, it was Phillips, and it fit, so I guess it was compatible. 😁
@@GuysPlayingWithToolsJIS is a little different.
@@GuysPlayingWithToolsI would post a picture, but no matter what I do it won’t allow camera access. I have an impact screwdriver, two sizes, with JIS heads. They are a life saver for all my Japanese/Chinese equipment. Hit the end with a hammer, and it loosens frozen screws. They are not expensive either.
@jfgreen1959 I have a couple sets but they only come out when the Phillips fails me. 👍
These honda self propelled mowers have a GIGANTIC FLAW! Honda in their infinite wisdom decided a tiny red straw inside the fuel line would work well as a fuel filter. NOPE! it lets crap clog up the tiny little jet inside the carb and your honda is dead in the water. So to avoid this issue you have to put a real fuel filter inline with the fuel hose. Unfortunately I have searched everywhere to find a super short filter with the right inlet and outlets...And let me tell you thats about as rare as hens teeth. The amazon filters i ended up with have a tiny inlet /outlet that are so short they only have 1 single barb so of course they pop off and let all your gas leak out. Had to JB weld the POS filter just to sort of get it to fit!
And on a side note I cant stand the jig saw puzzle that is the carburetor and all the crap that mounts to it. I hope yall never have to take one off because you need 3 hands and some reference pictures to put the damn thing back together. I am EXTREMELY disappointed in honda. Will never buy another one of these mowers!!!!
I prefer the Briggs motors too. Honda came up with the carb design 30+ years ago, and it hasn't changed a bit. I am in Texas, so dirt and dust can get into the fuel. If I have a mower going out that I am sure it's heading into a dusty environment, I pull the shutoff and replace it with a 1/4 filter from the local auto parts store. Pulling a Honda carb gets easier with practice, but when you work on ANY Briggs motor, you remember what a pain the Hondas can be.
The gas tank screen looks to be missing I need to get mine out and get it started on my Husqvarna AWD mower
What appears to be a pipe sticking up in the tank is the filter. I zoomed in on it so you could see it a little better.
@@GuysPlayingWithTools okay thanks for the update on this matter of the fuel filter in the gas tank
@@robertmailhos8159 It's not real obvious if you don't see them all the time
I have one of these mowers. The issue is that the screen on the gas tank lets all the dirt into the carb and clogs it. If you mow in a dusty area, the dirt accumulates around the gas cap under the vent and gets into the tank when removing the cap. Between that, the deck that has started to rust and peel paint, and the rear wheel cogs that get stuck, I'll never buy another honda mower. Its worse than the Husqvarna I had!
I can't(and wouldn't) take credit for the design. I am not a huge Honda fan either. IMHO, a Troy-Bilt with a Briggs Quantum motor is all anybody would need, and if it's stored in a shed and given basic maintenance, it will usually last longer than the owner. 👍I kinda like the Toro deck better but if we are talking about basic mowers, it costs a little more(and usually has the same motor)
These new Honda mowers are temperamental in cold weather! I been using non ethanol gasoline, new thermowax, cleaned carb. If temps are under 60 it’s hard to start. I got an hrx217hya. Very disappointed
There is something to be said about the Briggs motors. They handle handle and cold better. I don't use the non-ethanol fuel, but I am good about draining everything that might sit a while. If you do that, you don't need it.
@@GuysPlayingWithTools yeah idk what Honda did to their last production mowers with the gcv 170 and 200 engines. I believe they screwed up due to government regulations. Wish I kept my old Honda
@appleztooranges As usual, it's a carb thing. The newer ones are leaned out to no end, and it makes them a pain to run in cold weather
@@GuysPlayingWithTools yeah in the manual it says under 70 degrees f or under it’ll be hard to start.
@appleztooranges Well... at least they warn you...I guess? Lol
I bought one exactly the same and used it once and won’t start
How long was it between starts?
your not supposed to empty the fuel tank that way or oil will go into the carb and engine
Yeah, the Golden rule is to go away from the carb, but when you already plan on taking the carb off for a rebuild it's pretty harmless.