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  • @teaspoonmouthfulofsuga
    @teaspoonmouthfulofsuga Před 7 lety +648

    everyone calling the fans annoying when 90% of you would be screaming too

    • @kaxstay
      @kaxstay Před 7 lety +16

      T̶e̶a̶s̶p̶o̶o̶n̶ Mouthful of Suga i would be screaming my ass off like tf i am breathing the same air as TAEIL 😭😭😭❤

    • @matokibunny12
      @matokibunny12 Před 7 lety +21

      T̶e̶a̶s̶p̶o̶o̶n̶ Mouthful of Suga exactly you're not going to be quiet out of the respect of the other people around you. You're gonna sing along and scream! And people complain when the crowd is too quiet what do you want fans to do stay quiet or cheer?

    • @cloudmellow8521
      @cloudmellow8521 Před 7 lety +4

      Omg this is so true 😂 If I would've been there I would say "I'm not gonna freak out" ten minutes later "omg xhhdhsjwjjdfeuwjb" . But I'm sad bc I didn't know they were going to be in NYC 😭 I always don't know when artists come to NYC and I miss it 😭 [Insert sad Kermit the frog meme]

    • @mayarosado2114
      @mayarosado2114 Před 7 lety +3

      Tbh I didn't even find it a problem 😂

    • @kamun3662
      @kamun3662 Před 7 lety +1

      T̶e̶a̶s̶p̶o̶o̶n̶ Mouthful of Suga The fanchant is definitely 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Good to see NCT having so much loves ❤️

  • @burustar1
    @burustar1 Před 7 lety +362

    YALL BE TOO TURNT AT THE APPLE STORE😂😂

  • @neomarkzen4719
    @neomarkzen4719 Před 7 lety +565

    I don't see why everyone is complaining that the crowd was annoying? Go listen to the song itself.
    NCT probably didn't mind the fact that the crowd was singing along and having a good time. and that their fan base is very supportive

    • @CassidyStarke
      @CassidyStarke Před 7 lety +26

      ur hope
      Yeah you're right!
      The most important thing of a concert or performance is that the fans are having a good time. I don't think these fans were thinking "oh god people on youtube want me to be quiet so they can watch" hahahah
      They are just hyped cause they got to see them, I would be screaming too!
      Nobody got hurt so they did a great job.

    • @hijimminie
      @hijimminie Před 7 lety +57

      I can't imagine how happy they were to see how much support they have in America. A lit crowd is better than a dead crowd.

    • @teresajones3846
      @teresajones3846 Před 7 lety +37

      dont kpop groups generally say they prefer the energy of western fans more too? I know EXO has said it. NCT probably loved it

    • @ANDSTONE100
      @ANDSTONE100 Před 7 lety +8

      I will never understand women when it comes to these stuff, why just scream the majority of the time instead of singing along?

    • @Karil1004
      @Karil1004 Před 7 lety +4

      ur hope they couldn't hear the music lol they kept missing parts and they're usually in sync

  • @awesomeness967
    @awesomeness967 Před 7 lety +153

    stop calling the fans annoying they were just trying to show support, besides this is a once in a lifetime opportunity if i was there i would have been screaming too. nct didn't mind at all why would you? and if you're complaining about not being able to hear the song then go watch the mv?? lmao the op already said the sound system was bad.

  • @andilopez4164
    @andilopez4164 Před 7 lety +257

    WINWIN COME HERE IMMA TEACH YOU HOW TO WEAR THAT FREAKING JACKET

    • @chuchuu1877
      @chuchuu1877 Před 7 lety +4

      Seyeon Andria lmaoo he always wear it like that and im so itchy to fix them

    • @roshijinx7766
      @roshijinx7766 Před 6 lety

      Lmaooooo

  • @ilubunicorns123
    @ilubunicorns123 Před 7 lety +180

    I'm not even in the video but I'm fangirling so hard from my computer screen. I can't breathe.

  • @strayfreckles
    @strayfreckles Před 7 lety +233

    i love IT when the fans sing along, it's our way, not only in the United states but in Latinamerica. Our way to show our love. When we love the song, we can't help it but sing along. And they usually love it too, because they aren't used to that aT ALL. You guys are so lucky.
    Me encantó, desearía poder estar ahí, o que se vengan a la Argentina. Hermosos, los amo c:

    • @mxlxny2925
      @mxlxny2925 Před 7 lety

      X2 yo tambien quiero que vengan a Argentina

    • @Fany-rb8iu
      @Fany-rb8iu Před 7 lety

      Markstop thatshit A mí también me encanta que las chicas canten,el punto es disfrutar el momento,me siento tan feliz por ellas!

    • @Karil1004
      @Karil1004 Před 7 lety

      Markstop thatshit latinoamerica es mil veces peor jaja uu

  • @arielj.j.k.966
    @arielj.j.k.966 Před 7 lety +27

    the crowd was soo hype yes

  • @FlamingYoungho
    @FlamingYoungho Před 7 lety +123

    had to watch this serval times to see the boys and then the staff reactions lmao when will the UK ever get nct to come let me just i'll meet them in like 10 years when they decided to come

    • @burustar1
      @burustar1 Před 7 lety +2

      FlamingYoungho you just gotta make kpop popular in the u.k. and u got them in your apple store the next day. mark my words

    • @mimi-ox1lw
      @mimi-ox1lw Před 7 lety +1

      for real i see uk fans repping i hope you guys get a nct or other kpop groups to tour your beautiful country

    • @gucci1097
      @gucci1097 Před 6 lety

      We have bts coming this year if that counts

  • @xindecisivejayx
    @xindecisivejayx Před 7 lety +26

    A lot of kpop artists have said that they like the way fans in N/S America cheer them on. It lets them know that they're enjoying the performances. Also, the cultures and customs are different so we can't really compare how fans in N/S America vs fans in Asia. We get lit over here. Anytime and anywhere. LOL
    Also, im being attacked by Jaehyun's arm muscles. *inhales, exhales*

    • @winwinsonlylinesinboss
      @winwinsonlylinesinboss Před 7 lety

      lol yeah especially at the BBMAs, ARMY got hyped before BTS even came. And Jae Hyun's muscles slayed me~

  • @cocteautwin
    @cocteautwin Před 7 lety +39

    i love that fans sang along aw this is cute

  • @pekoeji
    @pekoeji Před 7 lety +11

    people keep complaining that the fans were too loud but you know damn well if the crowd was quiet it would not only be awkward but they'd call them ungrateful or unsupportive!!! the sound system sounded pretty weak and not to mention the person filming was in the crowd thus they're surrounded by the noise as opposed to a cameramen using a stage camera that blocks out crowd noise.. literally let nct hear how loud the fans are for them in a foreign country, let them feel appreciated and ACKNOWLEDGED by fans that for the most part can't understand they're music but still enjoy it and jam out nonetheless?

  • @MoMoswaggz
    @MoMoswaggz Před 7 lety +7

    How is this annoying??? This was so cute! The energy in there was amazing and you could tell the fans were genuinely enjoying being able to sing along and watch NCT perform.

  • @ashleymora860
    @ashleymora860 Před 7 lety +15

    damn the crowd singing along in korean and English. i think the boys felt happy hearing that. 🙄

  • @ulzzangs2631
    @ulzzangs2631 Před 7 lety +11

    theyre reacting like a normal crowd would react when they see NCT. The only problem is screaming while theyre talking but other than that, I would scream my heart our when theyre performing and theyre so cute, aw. even singing along ~~

  • @Dztruxtion
    @Dztruxtion Před 7 lety +47

    half of y'all are complaining when i know if you were there and they were that close then you'd be screaming too don't even lie. i mean you can say its annoying all you want but at least they were happy ad well as nct, most kpop idols like that hype in America tbh ^^

  • @jeonghansbaby6046
    @jeonghansbaby6046 Před 7 lety +4

    I'm so amazed that they knew the lyrics lol like I bet they loved how the fans were able to sing along so easily!!

  • @dais9446
    @dais9446 Před 7 lety +54

    i feel so attacked rn I cannot

  • @faynuexunqi4042
    @faynuexunqi4042 Před 7 lety +79

    As an american who has been to a lot of American concerts the screams and singing along are very normal to me. This is just how we cheer artist we like, has no one ever been to an american/english concert? If it was quiet I would have been worried since this is in america and when we are quiet at things like this means we didn't like it and I know that is completely different in South Korea.

    • @erinh8590
      @erinh8590 Před 6 lety +1

      lol true it's very different. I saw One Direction 4 times and it felt like I was losing my hearing every time

  • @jj8293
    @jj8293 Před 7 lety +30

    You guys are so lucky hope y'all enjoyed it I wish I was there

  • @kellimclaughlin6800
    @kellimclaughlin6800 Před 7 lety +1

    I don't know why people are hating on the American fans who got to attend this event. As the person said who posted this video, the sound system isn't great. At least the fans knew the lyrics and were singing along and were hyped AF to get to watch them perform in such a close environment. American fans sing along to songs at concerts. We don't do fanchants unless we learn them, and I'm quite proud of those who do. You'll never meet an American fan, whether it's kpop or another genre, who doesn't turn up at a concert.

  • @teoziyitz
    @teoziyitz Před 7 lety +3

    NCT should know how famous they are 💕 they know our loves for them💖

  • @RockinFootball_23
    @RockinFootball_23 Před 7 lety +1

    idk why everyone is complaining about the screaming fans, the screaming is fine it just shows the excitement of the fans and adds more to performance. For people who want to hear the singing/song, i suggest you stop watching the fancams of this event and watch the mv or something.

  • @matokibunny12
    @matokibunny12 Před 7 lety +15

    YES THE CROWD LET THEM ALL HEAR US 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

  • @sendiishoe
    @sendiishoe Před 7 lety +2

    they took trevor moran's apple store dance to a whole new level

  • @ItsLycheee
    @ItsLycheee Před 7 lety +7

    At the first the crowd annoyed me because it was so damn loud in my ear, but then I couldn't stop thinking about how awesome it must feel to have people screaming for you while you're preforming and singing your song! I could not stop smiling after that. It just made me happy.

  • @exo.oxe9
    @exo.oxe9 Před 7 lety +1

    I'd be screaming my lungs out.... there's a reason I'm not complaining about it properly hearing the song

  • @labellalia90
    @labellalia90 Před 7 lety +20

    I couldn't hear the music at all 😂😂 thanks for taking the video tho. You're so luckyy

  • @sseraphim3999
    @sseraphim3999 Před 7 lety +2

    Tbh I would be screaming too.

  • @egghead9973
    @egghead9973 Před 7 lety +2

    JAEHYUN CHOKE ME WITH THOSE ARMS PLZ LMAO

  • @Picturegirl515
    @Picturegirl515 Před 7 lety

    I feel like the only person who doesn't get annoyed by screaming in performance videos, in fact it makes me happy. For me it just shows how much love these fans have for the artists and how they excited they are, i feel like its awkward if its just silent. I'm sure the boys love hearing them try and sing along and scream for them, it's very sweet and endearing.

  • @boba5257
    @boba5257 Před 7 lety +2

    I love NCT and I'd be screaming a lot too, but give yourselves some time to breathe and listen to the song lol😂

  • @gemusical29
    @gemusical29 Před 7 lety +7

    i would seriously not even scream just creeply smile and record. LMAO this place is literally 30 minutes away from home and i didnt knew much about it I HATE MEH SELF 😂 like was it free to go or what ? omfg im crying 😂😭

    • @mariahmorales3164
      @mariahmorales3164 Před 7 lety

      OtomeGirl~ it was free to go but you had to make a reservation. I believe some fans who didn't were able to enter too but only after those who reserved

  • @MyLordHaechan
    @MyLordHaechan Před 7 lety +2

    the best performance 😍

  • @sope3672
    @sope3672 Před 6 lety

    Just- I mean I am in love with the fact that everyone is getting so hyped but for a second i wouldn't mind hearing the song too! lol- atleast, when they aren't singing the lyrics.

  • @totheworldn-titty2872
    @totheworldn-titty2872 Před 7 lety

    I wouldn't find this annoying, I would find this relatable, I just love how y'all hype every single member every time they come in front I just fucking love it. I'd scream too. Y'all are so lucky

  • @paigeforthlestrange3021
    @paigeforthlestrange3021 Před 7 lety +1

    3:21 those people who are facing taeyong on that side were so lucky T_T

  • @9niverse
    @9niverse Před 7 lety

    I'm glad the boys got to experience the energetic and excited Western fans so close and in a small space as opposed to Korean fans who are more reserved haha ^^ I'm sure they're happy when they hear the crowd singing their songs IN KOREAN, like did y'all see Taeyong, Johnny and Yuta's smiles when they were performing?? How can you blame the fans for being so loud when NCT are so close you can touch them???

  • @Michael_0718
    @Michael_0718 Před 7 lety

    They're right before their very own eyes. like few centimeters away and i'm fucking envious 😭

  • @sinderellaxie7062
    @sinderellaxie7062 Před 7 lety +1

    I looove the hype from the crowd! So much NCTzen love!^^
    I wish I lived in NY...

  • @weyamamiri7751
    @weyamamiri7751 Před 7 lety

    I am crying so hard I wish I can see NCT 127 live and be so close to them like that. Videos like this always make me feel some type if way it makes me really really REALLY want to see them live I feel so sad sitclgucufxur

  • @neknarf1973
    @neknarf1973 Před 7 lety

    Awesome audience. I think the guys were very happy with the enthusiastic response.

  • @sabrinab7020
    @sabrinab7020 Před 6 lety

    That hand slap though. Mark and Johnny. XD. Cute.

  • @Megan-ht8ls
    @Megan-ht8ls Před 7 lety

    The cheering really hyped them up!! 😊😊😆 And also can I just say.. it's unreal how gorgeous they look for that photoshoot at the background.

  • @jirimsung9221
    @jirimsung9221 Před 7 lety

    Thank you for sharing this vid 💞

  • @asstelllol5053
    @asstelllol5053 Před 7 lety

    Thank you so much for uploading the videos ❤️❤️😭😭

  • @alysonlee2846
    @alysonlee2846 Před 7 lety +1

    ;-; looks so fun

  • @irawri5403
    @irawri5403 Před 7 lety

    99% comments saying to stop calling the fans annoying
    1% actually saying the fans r annoying

  • @mebilisyl9314
    @mebilisyl9314 Před 7 lety

    I'll never be that close NCT in my life *cries in the corner* why am I not there?

  • @emmanuelle6530
    @emmanuelle6530 Před 7 lety

    its really cool i'm crying

  • @nuranisah5360
    @nuranisah5360 Před 7 lety

    thank you for the fans, you were sing together with them. so proud. they must really happy hear that. 👏👏👏

  • @lovely0804
    @lovely0804 Před 7 lety

    NCT actually know that fans are loud here but can't actually how loud is it with their IN EAR

  • @multifandom5598
    @multifandom5598 Před 7 lety

    I love how the crowd sings along.

  • @cinamonooxo
    @cinamonooxo Před 7 lety

    to that girl screaming johnny's name. girl me too. me too. i feel you.

  • @VeeJoy
    @VeeJoy Před 7 lety

    They're all living my dream😫

  • @reine-du-ciel
    @reine-du-ciel Před 7 lety

    Winwin and that jacket though omg I can't

  • @yukilwin96
    @yukilwin96 Před 7 lety

    SO PROUD OF OUR NCTZENS FOR SHOWING lots of love for our boys !!!!

  • @ol-lady6964
    @ol-lady6964 Před 7 lety

    The staff in red suit & black tie enjoyed the song lol

  • @exosoo3432
    @exosoo3432 Před 7 lety +1

    omg they was so near, I'm sobbing in my house bc they'll come to my country maybe in a millions years

  • @kokomrades1888
    @kokomrades1888 Před 7 lety

    I was smiling like a crazy person through the whole video

  • @emidoodle2970
    @emidoodle2970 Před 7 lety

    THE GIRL WHO SCREAMED JOHNNY IS MY SPIRIT ANIMAL

  • @ayak2966
    @ayak2966 Před 7 lety

    fml, those fans are so lucky...i need nct127 to come to sydney...ahhhhhhhh

  • @berliantisalamahu730
    @berliantisalamahu730 Před 7 lety +5

    Just a short heads up : put your volume down to the smallest possible.

  • @Diana-mj6uj
    @Diana-mj6uj Před 7 lety

    Whne you can't ever hear the song cause of the amazing crowd but know all the song so you hear it in your mind❤
    Fr though the crowd was amazing I bet the staff was like "Damn they're this popular?"

  • @cabbagepatchkids1714
    @cabbagepatchkids1714 Před 7 lety

    Why are people complaining about fans singing along? What's the difference with Brazil and NY's kpop fans?? Brazil kpop fans gets praised by fans for singing along at concerts while NY kpop fans are called annoying.. If you wanna listen to the song then just go watch the MV. if you wanna focus on the choreo at the same time then just go watch the dance practice. If you were an NCTzen you should be proud of NY NCTzens singing along cause I bet NCT felt really encouraged.. Imagine if the fans just kept silent, don't you think that NCT would think that they're doing something wrong or that the fans didn't enjoy their performance?

  • @nikkinguyen6016
    @nikkinguyen6016 Před 7 lety +1

    when the fans started screaming jefferey @ 3:00 lordt me too

  • @danitorralba8010
    @danitorralba8010 Před 7 lety

    THOSE FANS SCREAMING "JEFFREY" THO 😂😂😂😂

  • @chenosaur1564
    @chenosaur1564 Před 6 lety

    How annoying is it when you stayed in Brooklyn for a whole month and didn’t know anything about this and now you’re back in the UK and find this video 🤔😪

  • @luz2362
    @luz2362 Před 7 lety

    despite the sound i enjoyed seeing them so up close for a performance! I'd be singing my heart out too. The camera most def would not have caught anything remotely good cuz I'd be dancing too.

  • @exobaekhyunisagenius8712

    Im so proud of my sons ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ #NCT127

  • @lan1749
    @lan1749 Před 7 lety

    Guys seriously NCT was performing- The fans were probably screaming at HOW MUCH THEY LOVE THEM and THEY WERE SAYING I LOVE YOU TO SOME MEMBERS. Just because the fans wanted to show their love and screamed because NCT was very close doesn't mean they are ignorant and annoying :( I'm sure they didn't mean to if they were to you- I mean if ppl scream and scream Inlove you I'm sure I'd be sure they love me.

    • @lan1749
      @lan1749 Před 7 lety

      Plus most international fans don't get to see their idols oftern- but when they do they see them at least a few metres away- NCT was literally right in front of them of course they'd freak the hell out. Yea I do admit that sound system was crap in the APPLE store.

  • @lillycamp8892
    @lillycamp8892 Před 7 lety

    I relate to that girl who screams everytime johnny comes near

  • @ibtisamsaeed4239
    @ibtisamsaeed4239 Před 7 lety

    I envy America. All the K-pop groups go there but never come to England and I have to watch these videos and imagine I am part of the crowd and what it would feel like. it's sad really. They are so lucky.

  • @hiimt1391
    @hiimt1391 Před 7 lety

    WHAT BUT IT WAS A WHILE AGO!!!

  • @bts-wl4wj
    @bts-wl4wj Před 7 lety +3

    is it really play the music?😂😂😂 the scream already cover all the music😂😂 but nct's fans really awesome😏😏

  • @asstelllol5053
    @asstelllol5053 Před 7 lety

    HAHAHAHHA that sign that keeps blocking the camera makes me laugh so much idk why

  • @aniah5610
    @aniah5610 Před 7 lety

    Lol these fans went at it

  • @lunehours
    @lunehours Před 7 lety

    Omg I live in New York City, the fact I missed this, I really want to die

  • @mayaholt4574
    @mayaholt4574 Před 7 lety +1

    Sorry NCT, but the highlight of this performance was the fans

  • @Rebek116
    @Rebek116 Před 7 lety

    Ok, i get yall are excited, and tbvh i would scream too, BUT, not as a crazy ass creppy fan, like slry the guys must be so fucking annoyed XD and i'm not saying just here, but probly in every concert where there are thousand of people screaming their souls out omg
    anyways, thank you so much for sharing this!

  • @user-zt8rt3ie6w
    @user-zt8rt3ie6w Před 6 lety +1

    前のビラ邪魔で見えないよww

  • @killua_zoldyck99
    @killua_zoldyck99 Před 3 lety +1

    When will I be able to see them🥺

  • @nf7721
    @nf7721 Před 7 lety +11

    okay. i'm not good at english but im going to try explaining what im thinking anyways... so, i see a lot of comments saying that the crowd, and even the fans are so annoying and wild. I'm sorry for asking, but...where is the problem? They are just fans, that maybe for some of them, it's their first time seeing idols live and that close, i mean if i were them i would probably freaked out. Idk if u can see ur idols every week or every month, but for me ( i live in spain) i never saw them and i'm pretty sure that if they come and i have the chance to go to their concert i'm going to enjoy it and have a great time, singing, crying or even screaming, my mind won't be able to think at that moment. So for every person in the comments saying that Us fans or western fans are annoying mmm...you can say shit anywhere else but here.. We don't care 👯

  • @mimi-ox1lw
    @mimi-ox1lw Před 7 lety +7

    I HOPE EVERYONE THERE HAD A BOMB ASS LIT TIME!!!!!! SCREW ANYBODY IN THE COMMENTS WHO ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT THE SOUND OR SAYING THE SCREAMING IS ANNOYING HONESTLY YALL HELLA RUDE FOR THOSE COMMENTS. SCREAM AND SING ALONG ALL YOU WANT EVEN THO ITS ALREADY OVER! THISE IN THE COMMENTS COMPLAINING GO WATCH THE FUCKING MV IF YOU WANT AND STOP BUGGING AND BEING ANNOYING AND BEING RUDE! US FANS ACT DIFFERENT WHO CARES! IF NCT WANTS STEREOTYPICAL FANCHANT THEY CAN GO BACK TO KOREA AND PERFORM BUT FOR RIGHT NOW THEY ARE GETTING LOVE THE BEST WAY INTERNATIONAL FANS KNOW HOW!!! SO SUCK IT.
    thank you :)

  • @chlaudtn
    @chlaudtn Před 7 lety +1

    믓찌다 믓쪄 울형들

  • @allbecauseican
    @allbecauseican Před 7 lety

    Seriously, I live in NYC. Why in the bloody hell was I not thereeee

  • @neh489
    @neh489 Před 7 lety

    people gonna say some shit but let me just clarify NOT EVERYONE SCREAMS at a concert or performance specially in a small space like that. think about it, there's people who scream theor heads off because their hard core fans and others are simply their as a soft stan and want to enjoy the music not drown out the artist.

  • @thanyatrejo9893
    @thanyatrejo9893 Před 7 lety

    omg lucky 😩 are they having like a tour or something?

  • @user-ll6vc4rf2g
    @user-ll6vc4rf2g Před 7 lety

    춤선발리궁....나두 데려가지.....ㅠㅠ 겁나 가까이보이겠네...ㅠㅠ

  • @Diana-mj6uj
    @Diana-mj6uj Před 7 lety

    I wish the fan chants where louder❤

  • @romanevic7908
    @romanevic7908 Před 7 lety

    1:40 JOHNNYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @hiimt1391
    @hiimt1391 Před 7 lety

    where have i been again

  • @user-xy5fg8gn1p
    @user-xy5fg8gn1p Před 6 lety

    함성소리

  • @OhTheUnknownWolf
    @OhTheUnknownWolf Před 7 lety

    I hope the uploader is talkative, like how do they look in person and as close as this, how do their voices sound, their smell, their heights, uuughh...

  • @multifandom5598
    @multifandom5598 Před 7 lety

    Go to a concert in America fans do this in every concert. If you don't like it not their problem.

  • @davina460
    @davina460 Před 7 lety

    give it to brazilian fans, they always sing the whole song without being annoying, we even feel proud of them

  • @Karil1004
    @Karil1004 Před 7 lety

    I just can't remember the fanchant being like that... :/ sad the boys can't hear the music so they weren't in sync as usual

  • @SasXTime
    @SasXTime Před 7 lety

    I don't mind the loudness cause honestly it is a small area which is really the only reason we hear out a lot more.. WHAT did annoy me was trying to LISTEN to the fucking interview that is annoying when i was.. I have been to fan meets and concerts for different groups not really newer groups but they were never so fucking rude... yes i am american sure you can tell my language *shrugs*

  • @Diana-mj6uj
    @Diana-mj6uj Před 7 lety

    FANS ARE ANNOYING? TELL ME HOW THE FUCK WOULD YOU BE QUIET WHEN YOU'RE FEET AWAY FROM NCT!!!!! YUTAAAA

  • @vinitran8783
    @vinitran8783 Před 7 lety

    the fans are louder than the performers, this is a problem