Necro Feral return? Talents & Gameplay Commentary | TWW Beta
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- čas přidán 29. 06. 2024
- Do note for any new people checking out Feral in TWW that this is a more advanced cook with higher complexity and lower APM than usual, with some gameplay aspects unique from regular builds, totally optional build of many though. However certainly some of what I talk through will still be relevant for more regular builds too, though admittedly I probably over-explained some things as no script or anything. This video kind of assumes you already play Feral, but if you do have questions or confused by any terminology please ask and I'll clarify whatever it may be (I'll list some below though). I will be aiming to put stuff catered more to newer Feral players at some point.
Pandemic = can refresh a DOT and still carry up to 30% of its duration onto your next DOT.
Clip = refreshing a DOT early (above 30% duration) and wasting some duration.
TFB = taste for blood, talent (I mention it in the Necrotic Wake part, been trying to minimise acronyms).
BT = Bloodtalons.
TF = Tiger's Fury.
I think I used Rip and Primal Wrath interchangeably when talking about them on AOE a few times. Recorded this quite late last night so probably had some moments and voice a bit deflated by end.
I should also add you want to use Swarm offensively vast majority of the time (even all the time in combat if you prefer) to utilise the fact its DOT also snapshots Tiger's Fury. Lot I didn't get to cover because video was getting quite long but stay tuned for more talent and hero talent videos.
Strategic Infusion is this when I was talking about opener, forgot to include pic overlay in vid: www.wowhead.com/beta/spell=43...
TC/LI build: www.wowhead.com/beta/talent-c...
Standard Beekeeping (customise how you please): www.wowhead.com/beta/talent-c...
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0:00 Standard Talents/Options
2:47 My TC/LI Build
5:03 Gameplay Commentary
one of the best feral content creators out here, love your stuff man
Thanks for the great videos Cheesey :) I love how so far it looks like there are so many different kinds of fun builds you can play that do a competitive damage. You can have a more intricate build like this or a more fun "spammy" type build like the last video you made! Can't wait for TWW!
Thanks mate :) and yeah, so many different builds! Will try upload more soon
Good stuff mate. Seems like DMG is competitive on single target at least. Sincerely hoping feral is good. Really enjoying it on live currently
Top Notch. Love the gameplay commentary. Thank you!
Great video. Thanks
Always nice with some beekeeping love, looking forward to the next build vids too!
I knew it was cooking when I saw thrashing claws
love it!
Can't believe I never thought about just casting BS and Thrash to proc BT between pulls. I've never played swarm, so I pretty confused how it works from your gameplay. I'm not sure where you are looking most of the time, but I blacklist everything but rake on nameplates since that is the only debuff I'm worried about spreading on higher keys while WA is for tracking target's bleeds. Ghosting rake is nice too in Plater, but it is annoying to get it to work properly (it does not show on target dummies neither). Guess I'll have to un-blacklist Swarm if I play with this type of build. Does Feral feel any worse with the nerf to melee range? Good stuff as always.
Probably could have explained more with Swarm but not the sole focus here and don't want the vid to go too long. Will do something more Swarm-focused soon if I get time.
I usually look at both my weakaura and plater debuffs, I use a colour changer for Rake so makes it pretty easy to spot who to target. Usually glance at nameplates whenever I want to Rake/Moonfire/Swarm and then Rip/Thrash is more WA. But even then bit of both for all of them, there's no correct way really.
The melee range nerf is annoying, you get somewhat used to it, but yeah not much we can do about it really. Bit of a nerf to quality of life and also survivability.
HELL YEAH
Mmmm Adaptive Swarm makes this spec so appealing. I hope DoT gameplay remains strong, particularly Rip.
Dots are definitely looking stronger than Dragonflight already! :)
i also saw no reason to take feral frenzy in a lot of these builds as it just doesnt provide any value anymore without tier set and the cd being so long
You wouldn't take it with Unbridled Swarm because not enough points for it, but for other builds you can take for more single-target. It's still always been a good talent without tier set, but yeah not mandatory and a bit more niche in M+.
How much stuff do i wanna track? YES
Haha, well always good to have builds that appeal to different players, there are much simpler builds of course. Strategic Infusion by the way you don't need to track, I just show the buff to demonstrate, it basically just boils down to press Shred/BrS on opener and press buttons immediately after Tiger's Fury.
In your testing so far, do any of the new dungeons have points that cause swarms to fall off? For example in ruby life pools taking the dragon up after first boss, or in Azure vault taking the book down to last boss, etc. I love swarm builds, but that is always a big frustration for me.
There's some dungeons with flight paths but they didn't actually despawn on any for me, so I'm not sure if they've fixed it or changed how flight paths work or what. But so far so good, and if there are any, of course very easy to just play different talents on a specific dungeon.
@@cheesey7395 I REALLY hope it's fixed. Buffs falling off, focus target getting cleared, any kind of taxi system in dungeons has pissed me off too many times to count.
I miss the smooth-brain build from Antorus, I wanna play my smoothbrain sparklekitty again lol.
This is just one build option of so many, could play something similar to my last video but with Brutal Slash and Lion's Strength if you wanted something vaguely similar. Will cover more options soon, don't stress thinking that this build is the norm!
Hows ST looking like? Raid builds, are we going for L/R or will Incarn/Convoke be the play?
Possibly Convoke as DOTC and L/R as Wildstalker, or possibly Convoke as both. Bit hard to say at the minute but a lot of options seem good.
@@cheesey7395 Thanks! Looking forward to TWW!
what addon is above your character unit frame to track your debuffs timers
These are my weakauras wago.io/H3yjY1gs1
The weakaura directly above my character unit frame is Blood Talon's timer, just off to the side in case I ever need to glance at it. It's also in the pack but should be able to find it seperately on my wago too.
Looks fun, I just don't get why Blizz keep gutting feral's energy regen. The spec already feels slow as is :/
A big part of the reason it might feel slow on beta is the fact you're going from S4 DF stats to xpac launch stats, the energy nerfs are a bit overblown in terms of how significant they are.
is it bad to wait for 50 energy now for biting?
No, in what context though? Probably still worth to use at any energy in Berserk.
@@cheesey7395 ah ok cool cool :) just noticed you wernt waiting till 50 energy so i thought I was doing it wrong lol. But that makes sense. i hate waitng for energy during zerk :(
@@Kronosbattlemaps Yeah just send it in Berserk as soon as you have the combo points. If I ever Bited below 50 outside of zerk could be because mob is about to die or Tiger's Fury about to run out or just simply not paying attention.
I swear people really love to overthink feral.
Doing your best to make feral look overly complicated for low returns.
There's a disclaimer in the description that this is an advanced optional build, if you look at my previous video the build is the polar opposite. Some of the TF stuff I could have explained better because I probably over-explained things that generally boil down to simple rules like don't refresh Rip when it has almost full duration left, don't Moonfire on pull etc, and I will eventually do a video breaking down some of these basic rules. But I try to explain things in detail for those interested as this is obviously a high-end pov channel and this is a build for enthusiasts.
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