I Reset The Chicago Bulls Then Turned Them To A Dynasty

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Komentáře • 706

  • @AlwayzHoodie
    @AlwayzHoodie Před 2 lety +104

    “Well I have seen that many C+s back in high school” 😂😂😂😂😂

  • @Dark3stB3foreDawn
    @Dark3stB3foreDawn Před 2 lety +390

    REBUILD IDEA: (THE NBA FINALS ARE GETTING CLOSE!!)
    Hey Kenny, do the "All or Nothing" Challenge. Rebuild two teams, one in the East and one in the West. One team must only have players who have won a Championship. The other team must only have players who have never won a Championship. Get them to meet in the finals and see who takes it all. Thanks.

  • @deniavdijathegoatfr7887
    @deniavdijathegoatfr7887 Před 2 lety +1098

    Ik you prolly won't see this kenny, but you should know that everytime you post a video I feel pure joy in my heart and I hope you keep up the good work

  • @jacobknight8160
    @jacobknight8160 Před 2 lety +128

    34:35 Kenny's dyslexia kicked into overdrive there. Points out the 5x5 stat line and reads 2 of the numbers wrong and says 4 for one of them 😂😂 all love tho kenny

    • @larrybird6860
      @larrybird6860 Před 2 lety +5

      Pj Conley too

    • @i2S_Chaotic
      @i2S_Chaotic Před 2 lety +7

      Also 34:47 Derrick Dean averaged 42 ppg in the FINALS

    • @Shockkings0714
      @Shockkings0714 Před 2 lety

      That’s not dyslexia

    • @gigabytee
      @gigabytee Před 2 lety +1

      @@Shockkings0714 it literally is

    • @Shockkings0714
      @Shockkings0714 Před 2 lety

      @@gigabytee It isn’t. What Jacob is referring to is dyscalculia. It’s similar to dyslexia, but it isn’t dyslexia.
      Dyscalculia is a learning difficulty that affects an individual's ability to do basic arithmetic such as addition, subtraction, multiplication and division. Adults with dyscalculia often take longer when working with numbers and may be more prone to making mistakes in calculations.

  • @andrewyankowsky7832
    @andrewyankowsky7832 Před 2 lety +283

    Kenny has been dropping bangers like this for years now and I praise the king of the fourth quarter

  • @provokegoku5511
    @provokegoku5511 Před 2 lety +26

    Space Jam Challenge
    1. The leader (Lebron/MJ) - Get a player that
    is a 93 or above, if you could trade for lebron
    try your best.
    2. Granny - get someone with experience and
    veteran leadership, someone who has played
    in the league at least 15 years
    3. Bugs Bunny - Someone who likes to play
    basketball the looney way, get someone who
    is flashy, a player who is flashy with deep
    threes like trae young or a player who can get
    posters like Ja
    4. Road Runner - get someone with supreme
    speed, a guy like De'Aaron Fox, at least 88
    speed.
    5. Lola bunny - Someone who is another
    leader and an already established star, get
    your second star by getting a 86 or above
    6. Daffy Duck - since he was a coach in the
    new movie, choose a player that is an on court
    coach, someone who is intelligent on the
    court with others. At least a 75 basketball iQ
    7. Wile E. Coyote - Since he duplicated
    himself in the new movie, choose a player
    who has a sibling in the league, like the morris
    brothers
    8. Yosemite Sam - Since he had his pistols
    and shoots them, choose a player who can
    shoot, someone with at least an 87 three point
    rating
    9.Tweety - SHORT KINGS STAND UP, get a
    player under the height of 5'11
    10. Gossamer - Someone big with height, get
    a player at least 7 foot, 250 pounds

  • @dylan_kyle1
    @dylan_kyle1 Před 2 lety +57

    Take a shot every time Kenny says “Ricky Picky”

  • @KevinRajapaksa
    @KevinRajapaksa Před 2 lety +19

    I respect Kenny so much. Dude is dropping daily on 3+ channels even though he just had a kid. If this isn’t the true definition of “Ken-sistency” than I don’t know what is. Thank you Kenny!

  • @elijahstelle519
    @elijahstelle519 Před 2 lety +62

    Reverse Rebuild:
    Start with a team of 5 90+ overalls (you can choose), and then flip all those players down to being a no win team, the catch is you have to get every single first round pick in the upcoming draft, so you need to strategize how you trade down the players that you have. Then take that team and win a championship

    • @SheLuvJay08
      @SheLuvJay08 Před 2 lety

      I’m not sure every first round pick is possible

  • @xxxmajestic28
    @xxxmajestic28 Před 2 lety +65

    Kenny has a whole child and still dropping bangers, Congrats Kenny and Thank You!!

  • @djeagleton4601
    @djeagleton4601 Před 2 lety +8

    I love how Kenny just casually went past the fact that Dean averaged 42 and 13 in the finals

  • @parkerwatson243
    @parkerwatson243 Před 2 lety +41

    have you made a video where each team gets all the currently active players they've drafted and simulated the season? if not seems like a dope video. Philly, Cavs, Pelicans are the first teams that come to mind that could be elite

    • @oliverpeeters1967
      @oliverpeeters1967 Před 2 lety

      Nice idea would be crazy to return all players to their drafted team

  • @joycereyes5123
    @joycereyes5123 Před 2 lety +23

    J.P Conley= Michael Jordan
    Derrick Dean= Scottie Pippen
    Ricky Pickett= Dennis Rodman that can score

  • @bryanpadilla5446
    @bryanpadilla5446 Před 2 lety +1

    This is the video we needed thanks for the work you’re putting 💪🏻

  • @royboii1933
    @royboii1933 Před 2 lety +4

    The amount of names you had for Rick Pickett 😂😂

  • @ramaxx8327
    @ramaxx8327 Před 2 lety +17

    Day 2 of challenge Kenny the Challenge: "only three trades"
    Fantasy draft and what your assistant draft, you only have 3 trades to become that team a NBA champion. Good luck Kenny

  • @rexinthewild
    @rexinthewild Před 2 lety

    As a Bulls fan I needed this video! Great way to start the weekend Kenny! Always a banger!

  • @dannygarrett4951
    @dannygarrett4951 Před 2 lety +18

    Day #1 - Alright Kenny, I know you a Bulls fan, but how about The Bad Boys Challenge:
    #1 Must be in the top 5 teams in total fouls
    #2 Must have a 90+ OVR Point Guard
    #3 Must be in the top 5 teams in points allowed per game
    #4 Win back-to-back Chips

  • @playervsmachine7223
    @playervsmachine7223 Před 2 lety

    Dude I love this channel always got me thinking of new ways to play 2k

  • @christiantan6626
    @christiantan6626 Před 2 lety +3

    5 BY 5! Keep up the great work Kenny. Loving the content always and the consistent uploads

  • @johndeitelbaum8586
    @johndeitelbaum8586 Před 2 lety +4

    Hey Kenny, love your videos! Had a video idea. Get the top 10 all time players from each position, and put them on the same team with their positions. For example, the point guard team. Simulate through a couple years and see which position was the best. Keep dropping bangers!

  • @ricecake9884
    @ricecake9884 Před 2 lety

    These kind of videos are my favorites. BANGER🔥🔥🔥 also 5 by 5

  • @scurry7048
    @scurry7048 Před 2 lety

    Kenny bro u my fav 2k creator ever and u have gotten me through so much watching your vids u an amazing man’s have a great day!

  • @lucashathaway1186
    @lucashathaway1186 Před 2 lety

    Love the vids keep dropping bangers

  • @Josiahhughes21
    @Josiahhughes21 Před 2 lety

    Love the vids keep the grind up

  • @wajaegivans8977
    @wajaegivans8977 Před 2 lety +6

    NO AWARDS REBUILD
    Do a fantasy draft
    you can only have players who have not won a MVP ROTY MIP or DPOY
    If one of the players win an award they’ll have to be traded
    How many championships can you win in 3 years

  • @JacionBryant
    @JacionBryant Před 2 lety +2

    this is a certified hood classic

  • @joeduke1399
    @joeduke1399 Před 2 lety

    Ricky Picky, Derek Dean, and JP Conley are new KOT4Q legends

  • @bammyadebutler
    @bammyadebutler Před 2 lety

    Ricky “Picky” Pickett is a new certified hood classic and a legend of the channel. Let’s see a career sim 🔥

  • @tbrooksmiller
    @tbrooksmiller Před 2 lety

    Kot4q making the best content ever lets goo🔥🔥

  • @basketballcut8723
    @basketballcut8723 Před 2 lety

    Kenny this is the best video I’ve ever seen

  • @andrewheisinger7335
    @andrewheisinger7335 Před 2 lety

    This is about to be my favorite video on the channel

  • @friedmoose
    @friedmoose Před 2 lety

    kenny if you’re reading this i don’t have an idea for a video but just know i’ve been watching since i made my old account back in 2017 and i’m so proud of how far you’ve come man

  • @BEEJ34
    @BEEJ34 Před 2 lety +4

    The Space Jam Rebuilding Challenge:
    Hey kenny love the vids, been subbed since before 2016. You should do this challenge, because of the new Space Jam movie.
    1. The leader (Lebron/MJ) - Get a player that is a 93 or above, if you could trade for lebron try your best.
    2. Granny - get someone with experience and veteran leadership, someone who has played in the league at least 15 years
    3. Bugs Bunny - Someone who likes to play basketball the looney way, get someone who is flashy, a player who is flashy with deep threes like trae young or a player who can get posters like Ja
    4. Road Runner - get someone with supreme speed, a guy like De’Aaron Fox, at least 88 speed.
    5. Lola bunny - Someone who is another leader and an already established star, get your second star by getting a 86 or above
    6. Daffy Duck - since he was a coach in the new movie, choose a player that is an on court coach, someone who is intelligent on the court with others. At least a 75 basketball iQ
    7. Wile E. Coyote - Since he duplicated himself in the new movie, choose a player who has a sibling in the league, like the morris brothers
    8. Yosemite Sam - Since he had his pistols and shoots them, choose a player who can shoot, someone with at least an 87 three point rating
    9.Tweety - SHORT KINGS STAND UP, get a player under the height of 5’11
    10. Gossamer - Someone big with height, get a player at least 7 foot, 250 pounds
    I wasn’t able to get everyone on here, but feel free to modify to what you think, btw Fantasy draft and run a 10 man the whole season with every player. Hope you like that challenge. I created this on day of space jam release, hope you guys like it

  • @nickdonofrio6143
    @nickdonofrio6143 Před 2 lety

    Love these kinds of videos

  • @georgestiles2867
    @georgestiles2867 Před 2 lety

    The Hollis-Jefferson stray had me geeking

  • @antwaan3873
    @antwaan3873 Před 2 lety

    5x5 noooo context. Another great video Kenny ! Enjoyed seeing you build the bulls into a dynasty like a mini AK let’s hope this translates to irl 😁

  • @rap_diablo
    @rap_diablo Před 2 lety

    Our king Keeny you know that now the Derrick Dean Career sim requests are coming
    Also 5/5

  • @victor_wet_bananas
    @victor_wet_bananas Před rokem +1

    Your content 🔥🔥🔥🔥 as always

  • @illanoyzehit448
    @illanoyzehit448 Před 2 lety

    Man I'm old I thought you said Bonzi Wells . He was a beast. Mad defense and a hot head

  • @loss13
    @loss13 Před 2 lety

    Certified Kenny classic

  • @aryannalane4207
    @aryannalane4207 Před 2 lety

    knowing the truth about Kenny this broke my heart and made me cry, only can say: poor ex
    it all started when I went to maun.Lol (sad)
    this break me hurt
    Kenny has been dropping bangers like this for years now and I praise the king of the fourth quarter VBL

  • @ryanagrest2590
    @ryanagrest2590 Před 2 lety +2

    Day 2 of asking Kenny to do the Star Wars challenge
    Luke Skywalker: The true Hero of Star Wars, always loyal to the Jedi - Get a player who has never changed teams
    Darth Vader: Started a hero, but turned to the dark side - Get a player who changed teams very dramatically or received hate from the team he left
    Yoda: The master Jedi, knows everything - get a 32+ year old player with 85+ shot and pass IQ
    Obi-Wan Kenobi: Very good mentor to young Jedi - Get a player whose current coach used to play in the NBA to represent Kenobi
    Han Solo: Best smuggler and shooter in the Galaxy - Get a player with 80+ 3 pointer and 50+ steal
    Princess Leia: Excellent leader for the rebellion - Get a 30+ year old player with Alpha Dog
    Boba Fett: Bounty Hunter always calm and in control. Will track you down and kill you - Get a player with Laid Back and Chase Down Artist
    Rey: New Generational Jedi with flashy moves - Get a 25- old player averaging over 6 assists IRL (Use per 36 if you have to)
    Poe Dameron: Greatest pilot of the era, moving very well - Get a player with ankle breaker, tight handles, and handles for days (Only need 2 of 3)
    Mace Windu: With his purple light saber he stands out - get a 7+ foot player
    Chewbacca: A giant compared to others - get another 7+ foot player but that’s 260+ pounds
    Run all 11 players in a rotation and try to win a chip! Good Luck!

  • @blakeantony661
    @blakeantony661 Před 2 lety +4

    Get the top 10 all time players from each position, and put them on the same team with their positions. For example, the point guard team. Simulate through a couple years and see which position was the best

  • @rileychaney2003
    @rileychaney2003 Před 2 lety +3

    We need to see the rest of Dean's career!

  • @InKleining
    @InKleining Před 2 lety

    on my birthday and Dennis Rodmans, ty KOT4Q

  • @RaVexTacozz
    @RaVexTacozz Před 2 lety +1

    Seeing Kenny unretire everyone but Tobias Harris had me dying

  • @htswhitey963
    @htswhitey963 Před 2 lety

    The self roast on his grades😂🙌🏼

  • @ermentrudeeverill8079
    @ermentrudeeverill8079 Před 2 lety

    knowing the truth about Kenny this broke my heart and made me cry, only can say: poor ex
    it all started when I went to maun.Lol (sad)
    this break me hurt
    Kenny has been dropping bangers like this for years now and I praise the king of the fourth quarter JVZ

  • @bagelboi8105
    @bagelboi8105 Před 2 lety +5

    Challenge: Get every award in one season but each award has to go to a different team u rebuilt
    - Fantasy Draft
    - One Season
    GL

  • @jimierrante-humes1119
    @jimierrante-humes1119 Před 2 lety

    Kenny "is he gonna be my mj or my Scottie"
    Me "he gonna be your Eddy curry"

  • @rhyanmoseley4410
    @rhyanmoseley4410 Před 2 lety +17

    The anime rebuilding challenge:
    1. The Main character: the player must have a 90+ overall and have at least 3 all star appearances and 3 all nba selections. He also must play 48 minutes a game vs
    and be your first scoring option.
    2. The rival: this player must have been second mvp voting at least 2 times.
    3. The mentor: a player 30+ in the league and must have had 1 championship
    4. The antagonist: this guy must have been an enemy either on or off the court of your MC at come point. (Example, Steph and lebron, or lance and lebron)
    5. The best friend: this player must have only played fro one team and must have a loyalty of at least a 75
    6-7. The siblings: you must have two players who are related by blood.
    8-9. The background characters: bring in two players that are underated or have not been in the spotlight they deserve.
    10. The spin off: a player under 22 that is seen as a player who has next up in the league.
    11. The hated character: felicio, Roco, or jontay, or any other bad meme player
    This is a 2 year challenge and if you lose don't win the first year. You must do the following.
    1. you have to trade your main character and have your spin off take their place
    2. change the antagonist
    3. In place of your spin off, you have to trade for player who is a fan of anime

  • @chasingwashington9945
    @chasingwashington9945 Před 2 lety +1

    Love the vids

  • @jacksonbecker751
    @jacksonbecker751 Před 2 lety +1

    Love you Kenny

  • @radmusic8977
    @radmusic8977 Před 2 lety +1

    Video idea is smequel makes a roster of combined players and Kenny does a rebuild and they go into the championship and see who wins

  • @reaganwall4779
    @reaganwall4779 Před rokem

    Best Video in a While

  • @jay99910
    @jay99910 Před rokem

    "I've never seen this many c pluses, well I did back in high school"😂
    5x5

  • @goncalosimaoarnaut6028
    @goncalosimaoarnaut6028 Před rokem +1

    love ur vids

  • @izaachooper3939
    @izaachooper3939 Před 2 lety

    kenny you should do a random country challange. play geo guesser and if you get the country right you get to choose a player from that country, but if you get it wrong you have to randomly select a player from that country. the goal is to win a chamiponship in 1 year. love your vids keep up the great work

  • @cubbies9166
    @cubbies9166 Před 2 lety +1

    can you do the video again where you find out what was the best draft class but with two different leagues (so you can add in the 1984 draft class and all the other ones) and whoever wins the championships in each of them you can play a play now game and see what is the best draft class.

  • @Inuyashers
    @Inuyashers Před 2 lety

    24:52 Kenny with the bars, soundin like the start of his freestyle.

  • @lyrikdollaz9320
    @lyrikdollaz9320 Před 2 lety

    Man that 5 by 5 though he went crazy in the last series

  • @Jay-rn3cg
    @Jay-rn3cg Před 2 lety

    “Draymond green light. I mean extremely light”😂

  • @jonasdixon344
    @jonasdixon344 Před 2 lety

    5x5!! We need that Derrick Dean Career Sim. GOAT

  • @FlannelConnoisseur
    @FlannelConnoisseur Před 2 lety

    Could u do a video on the contract sliders in a way that it lowers players expectations?

  • @AJR-YT
    @AJR-YT Před 2 lety

    "We ride with our rook" -Kenny 2022
    18:46

  • @whatvrrdude
    @whatvrrdude Před 2 lety

    ive neva seen this many C+'s ...... well actually 😂

  • @Rd-zl9em
    @Rd-zl9em Před 2 lety

    Kenny should do this but for the warriors, so reset the warriors and draft your splash bro’s and your draymond green

  • @jaketalkstunes
    @jaketalkstunes Před 2 lety

    Listen, as much as we have all our iconic names here in the KOT4Q lore I think we should name it. Hold tight the KOT4Qniverse!

  • @brandonhughes6063
    @brandonhughes6063 Před 2 lety

    New channel legends

  • @ziontaylor3802
    @ziontaylor3802 Před 2 lety

    Kenny u should do a challenge where like every nba teams best year with all the players that were on that team in that year play in one season

  • @uhnewbie
    @uhnewbie Před 2 lety

    Hey Kenny. I have an idea for a video. You should put everybody into their rookie form

  • @ethan5406
    @ethan5406 Před 2 lety +1

    I have a great idea do the Warriors challenge instead of making a dynasty with trades draft your dynasty and make one big trade for a star but your trades through the seasons must be for role players nobody over 79 overall and each season you get only 3 trades. Love you Kenny🔥

  • @brownster7
    @brownster7 Před 2 lety

    I need a video with my Cavaliers so I can watch DG the PG flourish into an nba first teamer and champion!

  • @iloveekarii6584
    @iloveekarii6584 Před 2 lety +1

    Kenny is a really a 🐐

  • @lilshadez2888
    @lilshadez2888 Před 2 lety

    talkin about the 5 by 5 so much at the end he didnt notice he avg a 40pt trip dub for the finals

  • @yp_biggie1116
    @yp_biggie1116 Před 2 lety

    Kenny I feel your pain. I'm an Arsenal fan and I haven't seen them win the league since I was 6, and i don't even remember any of it 😂. Let's hope both our teams become good

  • @Wignation22
    @Wignation22 Před 2 lety

    I know this might not be seen but it may be a good idea to use declining/backloaded contracts instead of bird rights contacts that increase each year. To save cap on people that aren’t hoopin hoopin.

  • @AndyisGreat820
    @AndyisGreat820 Před 2 lety +2

    You're able to resign everyone because you drafted them all and have bird rights. It lets you go over the soft cap to sign someone, and you can't do it for people you trade for, which is the bread and butter of your normal rebuilds. I've thought for a while you gotta use the draft a bit more in some of these rebuilds, it makes retaining talent for a long time a lot easier.

    • @bradleyroberts92
      @bradleyroberts92 Před 2 lety

      it’s not just from the draft it’s if the player has been under contract for 3 years you get their bird rights but yeah drafting essentially gets you the same thing

    • @AndyisGreat820
      @AndyisGreat820 Před 2 lety

      @@bradleyroberts92 Yeah I should have phrased that different. It's not because he drafted them that they have bird rights, it's because any lottery pick is locked up for 3-4 years with the team options, so by the time you gotta resign them, they have bird rights lol

  • @isnavar_2625
    @isnavar_2625 Před 2 lety

    Finally took that suggestion that’s been at the top of the comment section for like a month 😂

  • @emreonat5394
    @emreonat5394 Před 2 lety

    Another fun Bulls rebuild would be if u did a throwback video. Takeover the bulls after their last championship with MJ and when he leaves the team and try them win a couple more championships.

  • @madduxstory1538
    @madduxstory1538 Před 2 lety

    The One Man Show Rebuild:
    Win a championship where at the start of the season reset every player except one's shot tendencies to 0 (my lineup looked like Shai Gilgeous-Alexander, Patrick Beverley, Mikal Bridges, P.J. Tucker, and Bam Adebayo)

  • @stompinromos
    @stompinromos Před rokem

    Derrick Dean is forever a household name

  • @randywestbrook3241
    @randywestbrook3241 Před 2 lety

    Fire vid 🔥 🔥 🔥

  • @Dragonds53
    @Dragonds53 Před 2 lety

    Dang I was kinda hoping you keep chuma okeke seeing as how he was the only other player u really got out of the first trade but hey it is what is seemed like a good defender while developing

  • @benvernon7660
    @benvernon7660 Před 2 lety

    Use this roster to complete the Bill Russell challenge! This might be the most successful team you’ve ever made man!

  • @VivaKennedy2024
    @VivaKennedy2024 Před 2 lety

    your last dance season coming off a loss was legendary

  • @fatjimmy5360
    @fatjimmy5360 Před 2 lety +1

    I think this challenge was more like San Antonio spurs than Chicago bulls there wasn’t an mj winning all the fmvp

  • @cbtutuff
    @cbtutuff Před 2 lety +1

    NO PLAYOFF EXPERIENCE CHALLENGE
    Form a team of players who have never played a minute in the playoffs
    - if you go more than 1 year, you have to trade everyone away on the team that lost in the playoffs

  • @benjam1240
    @benjam1240 Před 2 lety

    What'd you think about mr morale & the big steppers?I saw that you were gonna listen to it in the kenny for real video.

  • @ssssssss622
    @ssssssss622 Před 2 lety +2

    2 minutes after uploaded 🔥

  • @landalin2102
    @landalin2102 Před 2 lety +2

    I think there is actually something coded in the game that if you tank too hard the game gives you the 5th pick. It happens every time for me

  • @dylan_kyle1
    @dylan_kyle1 Před 2 lety +1

    I said this yesterday but why is he calling this man Lozorious Ball his name is literally just Lonzo 😭😭

  • @zonated3275
    @zonated3275 Před 2 lety

    Kenny can u do a video on sixers or if Jimmy butler never left the sixers

  • @jacobaugustin2884
    @jacobaugustin2884 Před 2 lety

    Him stoping Al from retiring was so funny

  • @andrew9771
    @andrew9771 Před 2 lety

    Simulate far into the future with the actual draft classes

  • @grantkentala2665
    @grantkentala2665 Před 2 lety

    That 0-3 comeback with 12 straight wins for da chip😩

  • @jordanscarantino4336
    @jordanscarantino4336 Před 2 lety +1

    Derrick Dean 5x5 game clutch

  • @calebgeorges1525
    @calebgeorges1525 Před 2 lety

    Hey Kenny, seeing that the suns failed to advance to the conference finals this year. Id love to see what changes you’d make to their roster for the next season in order for them to actually win a chip

  • @pickledbaby5054
    @pickledbaby5054 Před 2 lety

    Kenny I'm from Michigan and have been a pistons fan my whole life. And I've wanted to see this video for so long. But what if you reset time back to the year that the pistons upset the Kobe and Shaq Lakers. And see what else they can do if they would have all stuck together. While also adding and subtracting pieces along the way as you please. The opinion has always been that they upset the Lakers but that was really it for that team. But I think they were capable of much more if they would have all remained on the team