That was a good attempt! But there are some issues that stop it working. The tank must have no air in it , the air getting in stops the suction, also no air in the intake pipe put a one way valve at the bottom of this pipe to stop water running out once it is full. The diameter of the outlet pipe must be bigger than the intake pipe, the weight of the water falling out of the big pipe is what makes it suck water through the smaller pipe. The outlet pipe must be very very long ( much longer than inlet try several meters longer) and on a slight angle down, add a reducer pipe at the end of the outlet pipe. Lift the tank up very high above to increase downward flow of water, fast speed out greater suck . to stop air coming into tank from outlet pipe put in a stand pipe that is taller than the tank( put T joint into outlet pipe), if any air burps back up it will go out the stand pipe. I hope this helps
surely the tank has no air in it thats why it causes it to implode..no matter what issues you raise i suggest that you do it ..and i wiil tell you again it absolutely doesnt work
My friend, Only yesterday I somewhat was successful in my attempt with the free energy water pump system at my five year old daughter's science fair after spending 6 very difficult days in my experiments. One of the many things I learnt ( by God's grace), was that it is very important to include a large enough air trap just after the exit of the outlet. By doing so, the air trapped in the tank will have an immediate escape route which will help the water to flow a little more freely. The air trap will also build up a back pressure when it is full, which in my openion ( and the openion of a few others) help add more pressure to the flow. I'm am still to work out the science in this regard to improve the system, because like you, I'm also very anxious to see if this system can really be of a help to my community here in Guyana. I live in a small town call Lethem.
My Friend, I tried it myself and failed in like manner. Don't want to give up if it can work. I used a 5 gallon water bottle. What size pipe would you suggest for the inlet and out let. Is there a video you would recommend, that demonstrates the principle you outlined. Would be grateful. I do better with visual.
painta76 is correct, there should be no air in the system and the suction pipe should be full of water too. This can be accomplished by putting a foot valve at the intake. This system can lift water at a maximum height (head) of 6 feet (measured from the level of water at the reservoir to the height of the intake outlet. The 6 feet is computed from the standard atmospheric pressure of 14.7 psi at sea level. Make it less than 6 feet for more flow. Thank you Julius for sharing your knowledge and experience with us.
To lift 27 3/4 inches or 70.5 cm of water at sea level you would need 1 PSI (pound per square inch) of pressure. The higher the lift height, the more PSI you would need. It's better to use a smaller diameter INLET pipe. The discharge or OUTLET pipe or line should be LONG to maintain internal vacuum and capillary action, larger in diameter, and bushed down to 1" at discharge point. Add 2 expanding columns f same height & downstream of your 60 gallon drum to facilitate pressure surge. Discharge point should be lower in elevation. If you want to draw water from a deep well, I don't think if would work. Best If shallow well or SURFACE water like pond or lake. Also try ram pump method.
Meaning to say, the elevation water pump should be the same ratio of height vs. the depth in order to maintain the good vacuum phase with sufficient drum volume surface at the same time.
My Friend, I tried it myself and failed in like manner. Don't want to give up if it can work. It would help me greatly. I used a 5 gallon water bottle. What size pipe would you suggest for the inlet and out let. Is there a video you would recommend, that demonstrates the principle you outlined. Would be grateful. I do better with visual.
The vast majority of these videos coming out of Asia and the Philippines are bogus. They are just chasing the algorithm. Read the comments, folks! Look for the quality feedback coming from engineers all over the world debunking this trend. P.s. Pascal proved that there is a hight limit to suction pumps, roughly 34 ft. Siphons can work if you pay attention to the math!
Kulang yung design mo paps. Lagyan mo ng isa pang valve yung lower part ng suction pipe. Tapos pag priming, kailangan punung-puno pati yung suction pipe mo puno ng tubig. So pag open mo ng valves, halos sabay dapat yung sa outlet and suction pero mauuna ng konti yung sa outlet. Also, yung height ng tanke mo will play a big role. Kailangan mas mataas para mas mabilis ang velocity ng tubig when going down. This will generate a stronger vacuum. Ok na yung demo mo sa transparent jug ng mineral water kasi nag-vacuum sya. Kung puno sana ng tubig yung suction pipe mo tuluy-tuloy na ang higop nyan.
Wala sir, sablay din pinuno na namin. Tubig ayaw padin. Yung ibang gumagawa nito hindi din nila na explain after buksan. Kaya sabi ko di tlga gagana ito
Tama, sa dulo ng intake mo boss dun mo lagay ang valve, lagyan mo muna ang tubig yung intake, pata di mahirapan sa kalisud na umakyat yung tubig towards your container. Dapat mahaba din ang outlet pipe boss, buksan mo.muna ang outlet, then and inlet. :-)
You are very right, I do it my self twice with deferent size of PVC with negative results.Water always find it's on level. Instead I interconnected all my 5 200 ltrs blue drums with siphon system without making any holes below the drum for my rain water storage. Thanks for your honest expensive experiment.
Di pa rin yan gagana. Ang water pressure kasi ay hindi sa naka base sa volume ng tubig sa isang container. Naka base yung sa vertical height ng tubig. Kaya pag mas mataas ang vertical length ng intake pipe mo galing sa balon kaysa exit pipe na galing sa pwet container, ibig sabihin nun, talo sa pressure yung exit pipe vs intake pipe. Ibig sabihin din nun, di makahak ang exit pipe mo from intake pipe dahil nga talo xa. Oh di kaya'y makahak man, konti lang. Kaya yung system mo, titigil din pag kalipas ng ilang oras.
prime the pipe coming up to the bucket....then fill your bucket all the way up until the water is coming down into the top pipe....make sure all pipes are filled with water and bucket is all the way full. i havent tried it but its what i was going to try differently. same idea as fuel line on a car or break lines needing to be primed so theres no air in the lines. Im going to try this to draw water from our live springs. Good job on yours....dont give up.
I was reading comments, and I can't help but make my comment too.. This setup falls under the so called siphon effect and this setup will never work. This setup will not be able to produce enough pressure to lift water, airlocked or not.. Water can only free flow from a high level to a lower level, unaided by a pump. I hope I can share the link to the explanation why this setup will never work, for the benefit of everybody.. Appreciate your effort though sir, in always sharing your ideas and expertise that might help our hydrophonic community improve our craft.. thank you always sir.
Great try! Could the issue be that the pressure in the tank is not enough to pull up the weight of the replacement water? If you increase the down pipe size and constrict the up flow pipe, the rate of water leaving the tank would increase and the speed of the up flow pipe would increase to achieve the pull needed?
Sir Juls itry mo rin po ang gravityfeed water system sa nft malaking tipid sa kuryente wala pa kasi akong nakita kahit isang youtuber na ginamit ang tech na ito sa vlog nila puro kc timer ang gamit karamihan
Ha ha ha very much thank u for sharing I was almost buying some materials to do that pump with out electricity thank you for sharing. Now i have to buy da real pump to irrigate my farm thanks again
try to have all the pipe filled with water, use foot valve for intake, be sure that the volume of water inside the container has enough pressure to siphon the volume of water inside the intake pipe to a certain desired height
1 of the possible issue that I noticed that caused the operation failure is that you must eliminate the air on the system. The intake vertical pipe should also filled with water prior to operation
Karamihan na napanood ko ma's maliit yong humihigop na LBC tubo at yong outlet ay ma's malaki.. At meron silang kinakabit na tulong sa pressure katulad sa ram pump..
I love your videos....I hope to meet you in the near future. I want to learn it.....I want to make a farm in my home liberia. Can you also make an English version of your videos... Thanks for teaching us.
Dapat sir try nyo lagyan ng checkvalve sa intake galing drum para oneway lang ang flow ng tubig tapos punuin nyo ng tubig ang drum na nasa taas bago nyo pakawalan ang tubig. sigaduhin walang hangin para derecho o walang putol ang daloy ng tubig.
Try putting a back flow valve and remove all the air inside and also make the tank as strong as it could be, to counter the atmospheric pressure from the outside, and also build up the vacuum pressure in the inside of the tank... Yhanks
Another thing if you live near river or a decent stream of water you can use a air ram water goes in the front fuel check valve and up to a bubble an air bubble and when the pressure equalizes in the air bubble it shuts the first check valve off and then moves water through another check valve you can raise water up to 60 ft in the air you don't use the water directly in the hydroponics or aquaponics system you just use it as a power source to run your water pump and it runs 24/7 365 go on CZcams and look up air ram you can make them yourself you might be able to even use used one to pump water up in the air and as the waterfalls down through the old-fashioned charging system that uses loops or 10 cans the generate static electricity high voltage you could even charge a battery
Salamat sir sa info, nakita ko rin yan s ibang yt channels and i think maganda syang gamitin for s nft sana. Nd ko pa sya natratry kc nsa krutky p lng ako, at ngtratrial n makapag patubo 🤣🤣🤣, pero anyway, maraming salamat s video nyo po.
I also made a trial but not succesful. I think the container's flexibility vs vokume also play some role in making the suction pump work. I use a 10L container but is to rigid and the water volume that comes out initially is not enough to induce a vacuum effect that enable it to suck water from the source.
Hi, the universal law of water flow is that water moves from higher potential energy to lower potential energy of water in the tube. When i was examining your set-up I was pretty sure that it is not going to work because there is no potential energy difference at any point in the system once you close the valve on top of the container. I am a soil water physicist, Eduardo P Paningbatan Jr., PhD. an allumnus of Katipunan National Agricultural School (now JRMSU). Also, I have developed a backyard hydroponics/ aquaponics systems that does not require electricity, which i will be glad to share to you this coming Dec. In KNAS allumni Home Coming.
Can i give a helpful idea? I suggest you must attatch a foot valve from that siphone tube or return and a valve to fill water to avoid air presence from the circulation that makes the vacuum pressure loosed and maintain it's vacuum strength.i hope this will be a helpful comment.thanks for your time.
Good day sir julz Gumawa din ako ng ganyan system dahil nga sa mga napanood kong video para sana sa aquarium namin. Pero talagang ayaw nga umakyat tubig sa taas. Lahat na yata ginawa ko. Nilagya n ko pa ng footvalve sa inlet vacuum at check valve sa discharge para hindi bumalik hangin pero ⁰ayaw pa din. Nagtry din ako na lakihan ang discharge line at maliit ang vacuum inlet para mas malakas sana ang vacuum pero wala pa din.
Oo sir nakita ko din ito dati kasi tulad mo madami din ako isda tlga. Sabi ko subukan ko kaya ito kasi ganun din principle nya eh ikot ikot lng water. Hahaha natawa ako eh di pala gumagana
You need the tank and all the pipes full of water with the air gone from the system before you open the drain pipe to start it, the drain pipe also needs to be under water.. the pipe at the top of the tank is too high up, it also needs to be under water before you open the drain... Its a good idea, keep trying..
I'm not sure if it will ever work, but maybe if you have some sort of non return at the bottem of the suction side that does not cause to much restriction for water flow and also try to prime the suction pipe before sealing the top so that it does not have to suck alot of air before the watter, it might reduce the amount of suction pressure needed for the water to travel al the way to the top. Don't know all the physics so don't be disappointed if it doesn't work. Good luck with the farming.
You must improve Suction portion of your pipeline . Elbow fittings loose the velocity of water. I suggest, you willl use 45 degrees or 30 degrees angle.
Symphonic principles just eliminate the air in the container once the correct ratios of water out (discharge)and water in (suction) it will create to much vacuum to the container causing to damage. Im planning to do experiment also to drive a ram pump so you can transfer water at certain elevation.
Ganito po gawin mo dpt ung inlet mo at outlet ay magkapantay para gumana ang pump mo iangat mo ung drum mo para magkasing level ung dalawa makikita mo gagana yan. Masyado kasing mababa ang outlet mo kaya hindi sya humihigop
I watched many videos of that system and I observed that there should be some factors to be satisfy aside from the size of the pipes which depends also the size of the water tank to be used it should be the water tank along with the inlet pipes which dont forget to connect a check valves on the end which was to be submerged on the water source, the water tank and the pipes will be completely full of water and no air inside and supposed to be hundred percents no leaks for the water thats why they used always solvents to properly sealed both the tanks and the pipes in your demonstration if I m correct you never removed the air in the suctions inlet pipes by putting the water inside and attached check valves which is the most important so that no air will penetrates inside the inlet pipes.If there is presence of air inside the Inlet Pipes and Water Tank the principle of Vacuum suctions will not work because a "GAP" or SPACE will be created inside whether in the tank or in the inlet pipes so the "CONTINUITY OF ACTIONS" will not be done.
It can be workable if the outlet pipe is bigger than intake with long enough then put reducer at the end with same dia. at intake and container must be airtight.
At least you're trying. It's ok to fail because you learn what does and doesn't work. You can always combine a cars generator/alternator with a water pump out of your water tank and it will run as long as you have water feeding it. It would solve your problem because you don't have to worry about water pressure. You lot have gave me great ideas so good luck guys from Australia
The diameter of the lower pipe shoud be at least double size of the top pipe depending on the height difference and vacuum, you can check the ram pump principles as well, it is possible but it still needs a bit energy or some external pressure in the return pipe to have a good efficiency
We have to follow the nature rule water move from higher point to lower one , the pressure crate in the tank is not strong enough to suck the water up to fill the tank , it sucks the air in instead . Remember energy can not be seft created , it tranfer one form to another ,
Dapat po sir un tangke nyo puno ng tubig,, at un inlet at outlet pariha po may luck,, pag napuno nyo po un tanke isara nyo make sure na wala pi hangin mkakapasok,, sa start una nyo po bubuksan ang outlet kasunod nmn po ang inlet,,, seconds lng po dapat ang pagitan ng pag bukas sa outlet at inlet
I've tried and it is successful but only for a few hours before at some point micro sippage of air gotten it loss suction. And eventually you have to prime the tank again. There are many other technical factors to consider to on one way anti-back flow principal as well as proportional ratio between the suction and discharge.
Mukang nakalimutan Mo lagyan Ng check valve Yong dulo Ng panghigop Ng tubig na pipe sir... Para Hindi bumalik ung tubig pababa... Baka maging effective un .. saka pinopuno Ng tubig ung pipe Pag may check valve Yan para ding paggawa Ng puso Yan ung dulo Ng nkabaon na tubo ay may check valve para ung nahigop na tubig ay di na babalik...
I still believe that system can work. I think there should be a minimum ratio between top (vacuum space) and bottom (water / pressure). Use a taller container. The shape of the container may also affect. A diamond shaped container maybe the optimal, with the height ratio of 2:10. Since the system rely on gravity, You need the right amount of water in the container to create a vacuum at the top to suck the water in. And at the same time water creates pressure at the bottom to push the water out. I really wanted to test this system, but cant do it in my place right now
madami dami nang naloko sa idea na yan. isa lang sagot dyan, atmospheric pressure. kung gagana yan, himdi maiimbento ang water pumps :)Ramp pump na lang gawin mo boss, pwede pa hhhih
Pwede yan pero dapat matibay yung body tapos liitan mo yung intake mo ng one size ska lagyan mo ng tubig na pondo yung pipe... may mga gumawa na nyan nasisira nga lang kagad yung body dahil sa vaccuum pressure na tuloy tuloy
My opinion, and ill try it my self. Make the out let of the water longer than the intake, to avoid the air to be pulled in by the intake. And second make the intake as high as posible in the vacume chaimber to have as little air in as posible,
Correct, the outlet pipe ahould be longer. Also, I think the intake pipe should be smaller than the outlet pipe to minimize the necessary vacuum pressure needed to pull the water up. Try mo lang again sir.
@@luiedaclan123 River or pond must be higher than exit, output! All tubes must be airtight. Run output into a bucket of water to prevent air from leaking in. Inlet pipe and outlet pipe can be any diameter. Larger pipes = more water.
@@Dingsrud thats completly siphon procedure sir.. with this system i,ntake pipe can sanction low water source towards to high tank or drum by vacuum, and the high velocity flow of water in oulet create vacuum energy...siphoning is different
Tingin ko may kulang sa set up mo bos, try mo lagyan ng foot valve yung tubong sumisipsip ng tubig. May nabibili nyan sa Lazada mura lang. Try mo lang suhesyon ko. PVC foot valve, available sa Lazada.
I did this with small tank but without success. I think this is like a gravity wheel. Down pressure has to be stronger to overcome income so tank has to be large for sure.
@@JGsbackyardlettuceKagulay1 2 gallon water is breking up,not strong enough with the air pressure 😂 so.. i use a bucket like yours... Make sure theres no leak in the all jointed.We have a same new experience.More money to spend,,but for a give back,,we have a "precious" experience 😂 Unfortunately i cant record the process cause my back camera is broken...until now...😅 Still "camera error" when it on. And for the next project,my farmer friend ask me to made it again for his papaya farm.For a drip irrigation system,Take a water from the river to his farm.I use a metal tank... I think...this is will be awesome,the farmer need this.And i will share how to made this with all friend farmer. Thanks for your great video,great job...and i waited for your new videos 👍👍😁
Bro suggestion ko lng bka sakali magwork, di nman need n bilog ang vaccuum tank mo try mo kya square acrilyc sheet parang aquarium para di cya nayuyupi sa vacuum them mas malaki dapat outlet pipe kesa inlet pipe, ex.1"outlet, 1/2"inlet at yung level ng putol ng pipe sa inlet at outlet di lalaki sa 1 foot ang distance, at dagdag check valve sa outlet para di mg back flow ung hangin, ang gastos neh😅 masasagot nman curiosity naten heheheh
maybe u need to prime the tubings first especially ung galing sa drum. pra hndi mahirap iangat ng vacuum galing sa container.effective ung vacuum seal kaya nadeform ung container pero di padin kinaya iangat ,dahil cgro hndi proportion sa laki ng diameter ng tubings at liit ng volume ng container... havnt tried it yet.hehe ang gusto ko lng sabihin ay hndi nga sya effective😆✌️
Hi Bro, the only way I know to do that one is wind power or water power on the incoming side to move a scoop paddle, dipping into Ur chemical water for irrigating Ur system!! Nice try!!
Hello sir sana matabangan ko nimo someday naa ko deri canada pero balak nako mag fir good sa pinas and mag put up sa masbate ng hydrophonics garden kaso ang problema electricity so maganda yang idea mo sana someday matabangan ko nimo at magkano ang cost sir ng consultant fee every thing to run na at ano size ng green house to start to qualify your consultant
That was a good attempt! But there are some issues that stop it working. The tank must have no air in it , the air getting in stops the suction, also no air in the intake pipe put a one way valve at the bottom of this pipe to stop water running out once it is full. The diameter of the outlet pipe must be bigger than the intake pipe, the weight of the water falling out of the big pipe is what makes it suck water through the smaller pipe. The outlet pipe must be very very long ( much longer than inlet try several meters longer) and on a slight angle down, add a reducer pipe at the end of the outlet pipe. Lift the tank up very high above to increase downward flow of water, fast speed out greater suck .
to stop air coming into tank from outlet pipe put in a stand pipe that is taller than the tank( put T joint into outlet pipe), if any air burps back up it will go out the stand pipe. I hope this helps
oh this is very helpful sir. thanks for this.. i will do it again soon
surely the tank has no air in it thats why it causes it to implode..no matter what issues you raise i suggest that you do it ..and i wiil tell you again it absolutely doesnt work
@@abionsky1 yes that true
Oh, thanks man. My project wasn't working either so I'll try these adjustments.
@@JGsbackyardlettuceKagulay1 beautiful I hope i can meet you and help me with your knowledge with my daughter who is so much involved in our farm
My friend, Only yesterday I somewhat was successful in my attempt with the free energy water pump system at my five year old daughter's science fair after spending 6 very difficult days in my experiments. One of the many things I learnt ( by God's grace), was that it is very important to include a large enough air trap just after the exit of the outlet. By doing so, the air trapped in the tank will have an immediate escape route which will help the water to flow a little more freely. The air trap will also build up a back pressure when it is full, which in my openion ( and the openion of a few others) help add more pressure to the flow. I'm am still to work out the science in this regard to improve the system, because like you, I'm also very anxious to see if this system can really be of a help to my community here in Guyana. I live in a small town call Lethem.
Wow thank you for this information sir. I will be trying another setup soon.
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@@johnt6balao774 not allowing people to try it thats the message of this video,. am i not helping? am i not helping?
My Friend, I tried it myself and failed in like manner. Don't want to give up if it can work. I used a 5 gallon water bottle. What size pipe would you suggest for the inlet and out let. Is there a video you would recommend, that demonstrates the principle you outlined. Would be grateful. I do better with visual.
painta76 is correct, there should be no air in the system and the suction pipe should be full of water too. This can be accomplished by putting a foot valve at the intake. This system can lift water at a maximum height (head) of 6 feet (measured from the level of water at the reservoir to the height of the intake outlet. The 6 feet is computed from the standard atmospheric pressure of 14.7 psi at sea level. Make it less than 6 feet for more flow. Thank you Julius for sharing your knowledge and experience with us.
This is a good channel..
Helping those of us not to do the same mistake..
Thank you
This was a great try. It is important to see failures as well as successes. Thank you
salamat prof for sharing your experience..as the saying goes experience is the best teacher!
Thanks for watching sir
To lift 27 3/4 inches or 70.5 cm of water at sea level you would need 1 PSI (pound per square inch) of pressure. The higher the lift height, the more PSI you would need. It's better to use a smaller diameter INLET pipe. The discharge or OUTLET pipe or line should be LONG to maintain internal vacuum and capillary action, larger in diameter, and bushed down to 1" at discharge point. Add 2 expanding columns f same height & downstream of your 60 gallon drum to facilitate pressure surge. Discharge point should be lower in elevation. If you want to draw water from a deep well, I don't think if would work. Best If shallow well or SURFACE water like pond or lake. Also try ram pump method.
Meaning to say, the elevation water pump should be the same ratio of height vs. the depth in order to maintain the good vacuum phase with sufficient drum volume surface at the same time.
My Friend, I tried it myself and failed in like manner. Don't want to give up if it can work. It would help me greatly. I used a 5 gallon water bottle. What size pipe would you suggest for the inlet and out let. Is there a video you would recommend, that demonstrates the principle you outlined. Would be grateful. I do better with visual.
The vast majority of these videos coming out of Asia and the Philippines are bogus. They are just chasing the algorithm. Read the comments, folks! Look for the quality feedback coming from engineers all over the world debunking this trend.
P.s. Pascal proved that there is a hight limit to suction pumps, roughly 34 ft. Siphons can work if you pay attention to the math!
Salamat sir idol kagulay! More power to you... God bless! 🙏🎉😊🤗
Thanks for watching. Welcome bai
Kulang yung design mo paps. Lagyan mo ng isa pang valve yung lower part ng suction pipe. Tapos pag priming, kailangan punung-puno pati yung suction pipe mo puno ng tubig. So pag open mo ng valves, halos sabay dapat yung sa outlet and suction pero mauuna ng konti yung sa outlet. Also, yung height ng tanke mo will play a big role. Kailangan mas mataas para mas mabilis ang velocity ng tubig when going down. This will generate a stronger vacuum. Ok na yung demo mo sa transparent jug ng mineral water kasi nag-vacuum sya. Kung puno sana ng tubig yung suction pipe mo tuluy-tuloy na ang higop nyan.
Wala sir, sablay din pinuno na namin. Tubig ayaw padin. Yung ibang gumagawa nito hindi din nila na explain after buksan. Kaya sabi ko di tlga gagana ito
Tama, sa dulo ng intake mo boss dun mo lagay ang valve, lagyan mo muna ang tubig yung intake, pata di mahirapan sa kalisud na umakyat yung tubig towards your container. Dapat mahaba din ang outlet pipe boss, buksan mo.muna ang outlet, then and inlet. :-)
Hindi talaga gumagana yan mga lods.
You are very right, I do it my self twice with deferent size of PVC with negative results.Water always find it's on level. Instead I interconnected all my 5 200 ltrs blue drums with siphon system without making any holes below the drum for my rain water storage. Thanks for your honest expensive experiment.
Some suggestions here my help us. I will try again for the last time
Ok heto na nakita ko na po hinahanap ko na video nio Sir Julius. Thanks po for sharing your knowledge about farming. 👍
Salamat po
Thank u po sir sa informative video👏
Good idea sir., But I think it will work,. Pahabaan mo lang ang exit ng tubig,. Para malakas hatak or vacuum.. Sana makatulong
Di pa rin yan gagana. Ang water pressure kasi ay hindi sa naka base sa volume ng tubig sa isang container. Naka base yung sa vertical height ng tubig. Kaya pag mas mataas ang vertical length ng intake pipe mo galing sa balon kaysa exit pipe na galing sa pwet container, ibig sabihin nun, talo sa pressure yung exit pipe vs intake pipe. Ibig sabihin din nun, di makahak ang exit pipe mo from intake pipe dahil nga talo xa. Oh di kaya'y makahak man, konti lang. Kaya yung system mo, titigil din pag kalipas ng ilang oras.
prime the pipe coming up to the bucket....then fill your bucket all the way up until the water is coming down into the top pipe....make sure all pipes are filled with water and bucket is all the way full. i havent tried it but its what i was going to try differently. same idea as fuel line on a car or break lines needing to be primed so theres no air in the lines. Im going to try this to draw water from our live springs. Good job on yours....dont give up.
I think it will work bro medyo kulang lang yung pag seal ng pressure. Napansin ko walang check valve sa ilalim ng pipe papuntang input ng tank
I was reading comments, and I can't help but make my comment too..
This setup falls under the so called siphon effect and this setup will never work. This setup will not be able to produce enough pressure to lift water, airlocked or not.. Water can only free flow from a high level to a lower level, unaided by a pump. I hope I can share the link to the explanation why this setup will never work, for the benefit of everybody..
Appreciate your effort though sir, in always sharing your ideas and expertise that might help our hydrophonic community improve our craft.. thank you always sir.
Thank you very much
That is correct, will never work if source is at a lower elevation than the delivery.
Thank you for giving us good idea in farming
Great try! Could the issue be that the pressure in the tank is not enough to pull up the weight of the replacement water? If you increase the down pipe size and constrict the up flow pipe, the rate of water leaving the tank would increase and the speed of the up flow pipe would increase to achieve the pull needed?
Saw you on Dexter’s World.
That was a nice jester helping him out.
I’m thinking of installing a unit at my farm in Mindanao.
We can help you out. Pls message us on Facebook
Sir try nyo pong i-search itong TITLE sa sa youtbe "No Motor No Electricity Non Stop Water DIY......it works po....
Doon galing reference ko sir
Sir Juls itry mo rin po ang gravityfeed water system sa nft malaking tipid sa kuryente wala pa kasi akong nakita kahit isang youtuber na ginamit ang tech na ito sa vlog nila puro kc timer ang gamit karamihan
Ha ha ha very much thank u for sharing I was almost buying some materials to do that pump with out electricity thank you for sharing. Now i have to buy da real pump to irrigate my farm thanks again
I save you
try to have all the pipe filled with water, use foot valve for intake, be sure that the volume of water inside the container has enough pressure to siphon the volume of water inside the intake pipe to a certain desired height
1 of the possible issue that I noticed that caused the operation failure is that you must eliminate the air on the system. The intake vertical pipe should also filled with water prior to operation
Thanks bro for testing and proving it
Thank you for sharing sir
Nasubukan ko na Rin to idol, sa napanood ko SA CZcams dati pero malaking scam 😁 napagastos lang Ako salamat sa pag upload for awareness
yes sir kaya may duda ako nung unang attemp, akala ko singaw lang
Karamihan na napanood ko ma's maliit yong humihigop na LBC tubo at yong outlet ay ma's malaki.. At meron silang kinakabit na tulong sa pressure katulad sa ram pump..
Congratulations brother. The truth fighter.
Thank you
kindly observed the big pvc pipe, now he put air do you think the air pressure will not pass through the big pipe?
Sorry for waiting guys. hope you learn a lot from this episode. Thank you
Sir try nyo pong I open din po yung daanan ng tubig sa taas nya yang sa tubo sa taas :)
Tapos punong puno sir hanggang tubo sa taas nya :)
valuable and always something new to learn from you sir
@@eronikotoiwasawasa191 he is working in real or not?
I love your videos....I hope to meet you in the near future. I want to learn it.....I want to make a farm in my home liberia. Can you also make an English version of your videos...
Thanks for teaching us.
@@aloysiusimolley4631 yes i made English videos
Dapat sir try nyo lagyan ng checkvalve sa intake galing drum para oneway lang ang flow ng tubig tapos punuin nyo ng tubig ang drum na nasa taas bago nyo pakawalan ang tubig. sigaduhin walang hangin para derecho o walang putol ang daloy ng tubig.
Try putting a back flow valve and remove all the air inside and also make the tank as strong as it could be, to counter the atmospheric pressure from the outside, and also build up the vacuum pressure in the inside of the tank... Yhanks
Another thing if you live near river or a decent stream of water you can use a air ram water goes in the front fuel check valve and up to a bubble an air bubble and when the pressure equalizes in the air bubble it shuts the first check valve off and then moves water through another check valve you can raise water up to 60 ft in the air you don't use the water directly in the hydroponics or aquaponics system you just use it as a power source to run your water pump and it runs 24/7 365 go on CZcams and look up air ram you can make them yourself you might be able to even use used one to pump water up in the air and as the waterfalls down through the old-fashioned charging system that uses loops or 10 cans the generate static electricity high voltage you could even charge a battery
Salamat sir sa info, nakita ko rin yan s ibang yt channels and i think maganda syang gamitin for s nft sana. Nd ko pa sya natratry kc nsa krutky p lng ako, at ngtratrial n makapag patubo 🤣🤣🤣, pero anyway, maraming salamat s video nyo po.
Pls watch the full video sir. Thank you
dapat sir may check valve yong suction pump para punoin mo muna ng tubig yong pipe para pagbukas mo may tubig na kaagad..
I also made a trial but not succesful. I think the container's flexibility vs vokume also play some role in making the suction pump work. I use a 10L container but is to rigid and the water volume that comes out initially is not enough to induce a vacuum effect that enable it to suck water from the source.
Hi, the universal law of water flow is that water moves from higher potential energy to lower potential energy of water in the tube. When i was examining your set-up I was pretty sure that it is not going to work because there is no potential energy difference at any point in the system once you close the valve on top of the container. I am a soil water physicist, Eduardo P Paningbatan Jr., PhD. an allumnus of Katipunan National Agricultural School (now JRMSU). Also, I have developed a backyard hydroponics/ aquaponics systems that does not require electricity, which i will be glad to share to you this coming Dec. In KNAS allumni Home Coming.
Thank you
Can i give a helpful idea? I suggest you must attatch a foot valve from that siphone tube or return and a valve to fill water to avoid air presence from the circulation that makes the vacuum pressure loosed and maintain it's vacuum strength.i hope this will be a helpful comment.thanks for your time.
Salamat brod, for trying.
Its a learning experience... your new subsi here.
Thank you. Di tlga sila maniniwala na hindi tlga gumagana ito. Hahhaha
Brod Subukan nyo yung Isang Tubo sa Baba
ng TINBA na naka LUBOG din sa TUBIG!!!... ng
MALAKING DRUM!!!...
Done it with 1.5L softdrink bottle sir, I think little adjustment lang cgro kulang sa
Good day sir julz
Gumawa din ako ng ganyan system dahil nga sa mga napanood kong video para sana sa aquarium namin.
Pero talagang ayaw nga umakyat tubig sa taas. Lahat na yata ginawa ko. Nilagya n ko pa ng footvalve sa inlet vacuum at check valve sa discharge para hindi bumalik hangin pero ⁰ayaw pa din. Nagtry din ako na lakihan ang discharge line at maliit ang vacuum inlet para mas malakas sana ang vacuum pero wala pa din.
Oo sir nakita ko din ito dati kasi tulad mo madami din ako isda tlga. Sabi ko subukan ko kaya ito kasi ganun din principle nya eh ikot ikot lng water. Hahaha natawa ako eh di pala gumagana
Dapat lagyan mo ng valve sa suction pipe.
pag alaga ng atim ay related sa food. about food kami at informative to na video, thanks
Thank you
@@JGsbackyardlettuceKagulay1 no probs and more success to you. support kami sa inyo
Oh, and nice music too! Thanks!
Thank you
Disturbing. Muted it aftet few seconds!
Thank you Sir,about your sharing
You're welcome
You need the tank and all the pipes full of water with the air gone from the system before you open the drain pipe to start it, the drain pipe also needs to be under water.. the pipe at the top of the tank is too high up, it also needs to be under water before you open the drain... Its a good idea, keep trying..
I will consider this next time.thank you sir steve
I'm not sure if it will ever work, but maybe if you have some sort of non return at the bottem of the suction side that does not cause to much restriction for water flow and also try to prime the suction pipe before sealing the top so that it does not have to suck alot of air before the watter, it might reduce the amount of suction pressure needed for the water to travel al the way to the top.
Don't know all the physics so don't be disappointed if it doesn't work.
Good luck with the farming.
hi sir im trying my best but this dsnt work at all
No, no foot valve is needed. In fact that is the reason to use a valve. Barrel = no need for a foot valve.
You must improve Suction portion of your pipeline . Elbow fittings loose the velocity of water. I suggest, you willl use 45 degrees or 30 degrees angle.
Do not bother, will never work. This is a siphon. The input water level must be higher then the delivery.
Symphonic principles just eliminate the air in the container once the correct ratios of water out (discharge)and water in (suction) it will create to much vacuum to the container causing to damage. Im planning to do experiment also to drive a ram pump so you can transfer water at certain elevation.
Ganito po gawin mo dpt ung inlet mo at outlet ay magkapantay para gumana ang pump mo iangat mo ung drum mo para magkasing level ung dalawa makikita mo gagana yan. Masyado kasing mababa ang outlet mo kaya hindi sya humihigop
Sige sir subok uli
You put some pvc vertical between outlet and tank for air pressure,and put foot valve to hold the water
I watched many videos of that system and I observed that there should be some factors to be satisfy aside from the size of the pipes which depends also the size of the water tank to be used it should be the water tank along with the inlet pipes which dont forget to connect a check valves on the end which was to be submerged on the water source, the water tank and the pipes will be completely full of water and no air inside and supposed to be hundred percents no leaks for the water thats why they used always solvents to properly sealed both the tanks and the pipes in your demonstration if I m correct you never removed the air in the suctions inlet pipes by putting the water inside and attached check valves which is the most important so that no air will penetrates inside the inlet pipes.If there is presence of air inside the Inlet Pipes and Water Tank the principle of Vacuum suctions will not work because a "GAP" or SPACE will be created inside whether in the tank or in the inlet pipes so the "CONTINUITY OF ACTIONS" will not be done.
Thanks for this man.
It can be workable if the outlet pipe is bigger than intake with long enough then put reducer at the end with same dia. at intake and container must be airtight.
I tried it already
At least you're trying. It's ok to fail because you learn what does and doesn't work. You can always combine a cars generator/alternator with a water pump out of your water tank and it will run as long as you have water feeding it. It would solve your problem because you don't have to worry about water pressure. You lot have gave me great ideas so good luck guys from Australia
Thanks a lot Dan. Regards from Philippines
Great job kuya👌❤️. I love your gravity pump
Not working bro
Dapat duha imu stand pipe dyan sir para sa air para di ma yupi ang galon..
Wow! Amazing
The diameter of the lower pipe shoud be at least double size of the top pipe depending on the height difference and vacuum, you can check the ram pump principles as well, it is possible but it still needs a bit energy or some external pressure in the return pipe to have a good efficiency
Thank you
We have to follow the nature rule water move from higher point to lower one , the pressure crate in the tank is not strong enough to suck the water up to fill the tank , it sucks the air in instead . Remember energy can not be seft created , it tranfer one form to another ,
Wilkins bottles gamitin mo kasi matigas yon..para di mayupi..tnx..
Sige sige
your video is awesome
Thank you for sharing your failures. It helps alot. To everybody and learned from the good comment. Shared 😅0:08
Dapat po sir un tangke nyo puno ng tubig,, at un inlet at outlet pariha po may luck,, pag napuno nyo po un tanke isara nyo make sure na wala pi hangin mkakapasok,, sa start una nyo po bubuksan ang outlet kasunod nmn po ang inlet,,, seconds lng po dapat ang pagitan ng pag bukas sa outlet at inlet
Did you fill the return line with water before opening the valve ? If its full of air it wont suck.
Yes I just did
I've tried and it is successful but only for a few hours before at some point micro sippage of air gotten it loss suction.
And eventually you have to prime the tank again. There are many other technical factors to consider to on one way anti-back flow principal as well as proportional ratio between the suction and discharge.
doesn't work sir.
@@JGsbackyardlettuceKagulay1 I would like to show you my video but only able to share via cloud.
@@jeremytheonlyone alright.. pls email me at jcgerona@sanbeda.edu.ph
Pwede ako mag share ng idea. Baka ang problem yun pipe ng suction kailangan meron water para hindi hirap ang pressure requirement to suction.
Pwde sir. I love to know
Mukang nakalimutan Mo lagyan Ng check valve Yong dulo Ng panghigop Ng tubig na pipe sir... Para Hindi bumalik ung tubig pababa... Baka maging effective un .. saka pinopuno Ng tubig ung pipe Pag may check valve Yan para ding paggawa Ng puso Yan ung dulo Ng nkabaon na tubo ay may check valve para ung nahigop na tubig ay di na babalik...
I still believe that system can work. I think there should be a minimum ratio between top (vacuum space) and bottom (water / pressure). Use a taller container. The shape of the container may also affect. A diamond shaped container maybe the optimal, with the height ratio of 2:10. Since the system rely on gravity, You need the right amount of water in the container to create a vacuum at the top to suck the water in. And at the same time water creates pressure at the bottom to push the water out. I really wanted to test this system, but cant do it in my place right now
I'll try again
sir, yung output , gamitan mo ng di dos na pvc, kase yung input mo ay de uno pvc...
good day , new subscriber here, i want to learn more about this
Welcome to my channel
it is just a siphon effect it will not work when the outlet is higher than the intake, bubbles will just go in the outlet to fill the bucket with air.
madami dami nang naloko sa idea na yan. isa lang sagot dyan, atmospheric pressure. kung gagana yan, himdi maiimbento ang water pumps :)Ramp pump na lang gawin mo boss, pwede pa hhhih
Sige sige salamat
Bai ano ang Principles? by atmospheric pressure that creates vaccum or only by Gravity?
yes.. once the water goes down. mag vaccum unta kaso wala man. way epek bai
I think maybe a larger diameter pipe on bottom. And smaller pipe going up. Would be more weight pulling. I think 🤔
I tried already sir. Still nothing happens
Kylangan mo ng flat steel drum, at ms mhaba outlet
Sir Juls apply ram pump method I guess mogana n xa.
Pwede yan pero dapat matibay yung body tapos liitan mo yung intake mo ng one size ska lagyan mo ng tubig na pondo yung pipe... may mga gumawa na nyan nasisira nga lang kagad yung body dahil sa vaccuum pressure na tuloy tuloy
Hindi gumana sir sayang lang
sir wala pa akong exprnce sa pagtatanim ng lettus ano pong variety ang pwding itanim ngayon ber month?
Lollo bionda.. meron Ramgo para sa baguhan maayos din na seeds
@@JGsbackyardlettuceKagulay1 maraming salamat sir
You could try using a Heron's fountain
My opinion, and ill try it my self. Make the out let of the water longer than the intake, to avoid the air to be pulled in by the intake. And second make the intake as high as posible in the vacume chaimber to have as little air in as posible,
do you have sample sir? is it working?
1) Source must be higher than output. 2) plase a upward bend at the output or dip it into a bucket of water.
Correct, the outlet pipe ahould be longer. Also, I think the intake pipe should be smaller than the outlet pipe to minimize the necessary vacuum pressure needed to pull the water up. Try mo lang again sir.
@@luiedaclan123 River or pond must be higher than exit, output! All tubes must be airtight. Run output into a bucket of water to prevent air from leaking in. Inlet pipe and outlet pipe can be any diameter. Larger pipes = more water.
@@Dingsrud thats completly siphon procedure sir.. with this system i,ntake pipe can sanction low water source towards to high tank or drum by vacuum, and the high velocity flow of water in oulet create vacuum energy...siphoning is different
I think you should try it again. You are trying called drum pump. I saw a video with AgriBusiness Channel using Drum pump and Ram pump
Gumana ba yung kanila sir?
Tingin ko may kulang sa set up mo bos, try mo lagyan ng foot valve yung tubong sumisipsip ng tubig. May nabibili nyan sa Lazada mura lang. Try mo lang suhesyon ko. PVC foot valve, available sa Lazada.
Sige sige sir di ko pa naman sinisira
I did this with small tank but without success. I think this is like a gravity wheel. Down pressure has to be stronger to overcome income so tank has to be large for sure.
The same here. Nothing happened
Thank you bro for being honest of your trial and error experiment..some vloggers do it the same but it also fail..
Thank you for watching
Sir J&Js san ako makabili ng wiggle wire at U channel po..magkano po kaya amg mga ito?
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What about if you install a ram on the line of your discharge, please try it.
Yes sir i will do it again
Yesss... I made it too 😁
How's the result?
@@JGsbackyardlettuceKagulay1 2 gallon water is breking up,not strong enough with the air pressure 😂 so.. i use a bucket like yours... Make sure theres no leak in the all jointed.We have a same new experience.More money to spend,,but for a give back,,we have a "precious" experience 😂
Unfortunately i cant record the process cause my back camera is broken...until now...😅 Still "camera error" when it on.
And for the next project,my farmer friend ask me to made it again for his papaya farm.For a drip irrigation system,Take a water from the river to his farm.I use a metal tank...
I think...this is will be awesome,the farmer need this.And i will share how to made this with all friend farmer.
Thanks for your great video,great job...and i waited for your new videos 👍👍😁
@@HYDROCEMPLUNG remember, for this to work, the source, river, must be higher then the rice field!
try nyo pong lagyan ng foot valve at ilagay sa medyo mataas na lugar para malakas ang gravity full.
Thank you i will try again
Bro suggestion ko lng bka sakali magwork, di nman need n bilog ang vaccuum tank mo try mo kya square acrilyc sheet parang aquarium para di cya nayuyupi sa vacuum them mas malaki dapat outlet pipe kesa inlet pipe, ex.1"outlet, 1/2"inlet at yung level ng putol ng pipe sa inlet at outlet di lalaki sa 1 foot ang distance, at dagdag check valve sa outlet para di mg back flow ung hangin, ang gastos neh😅 masasagot nman curiosity naten heheheh
Thank you sir
maybe u need to prime the tubings first especially ung galing sa drum. pra hndi mahirap iangat ng vacuum galing sa container.effective ung vacuum seal kaya nadeform ung container pero di padin kinaya iangat ,dahil cgro hndi proportion sa laki ng diameter ng tubings at liit ng volume ng container... havnt tried it yet.hehe ang gusto ko lng sabihin ay hndi nga sya effective😆✌️
Galing mo dol
Then one more thing, dapat Puno talaga yung tangke ng tubig para walang hangin na papasok. As in puro tubig lang dapat.
Hope it helps. God bless
Upto how much height will it work, this no electricity water pumping?
Yes this will run by gravity
what is the name of the pump system ?
Make the size of pipe for discharge is bigger than the pipe on suction.
I will do it next time
Does not matter. You may even use an input tube that is 2-6+++ times the diameter of the output
Hi Bro, the only way I know to do that one is wind power or water power on the incoming side to move a scoop paddle, dipping into Ur chemical water for irrigating Ur system!! Nice try!!
Thank you
May update na po ba nito sir in your succeeding experiment? I hope you can share po. Thanks.
Wala pa sir di ko pa sinusubukan uli mukhang di tlga ubra
Hello sir sana matabangan ko nimo someday naa ko deri canada pero balak nako mag fir good sa pinas and mag put up sa masbate ng hydrophonics garden kaso ang problema electricity so maganda yang idea mo sana someday matabangan ko nimo at magkano ang cost sir ng consultant fee every thing to run na at ano size ng green house to start to qualify your consultant
Sige sir. Way problema. Message lng if naa nakas pinas