Lord Byron: Mad, Bad & Dangerous To Know | Part 1
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- Few lives from history can have contained as many strange and exciting strands as that of Lord Byron's, whose story reflects the great dramas of the Napoleonic era. A vampiric hero of devilish charisma; a martyr for liberty, a licentious lothario; Byron’s cultural and literary impact cannot be underestimated. The remarkable course of his life, and his mercurial nature can in part be explained by the dark events of his childhood, and the outlandish history of his own family. Born with a club foot - his “satanic mark” - to “Mad Jack” Byron, a former gigolo dogged by incest and financial ruin, and an unpredictable mother, a strange curse seemed to lie over the family. Impoverished before the inheritance of his title and a romantic ruin in Nottinghamshire, the plump and provincial boy would finally find solace at school and university, where he transformed into the glamorous rake he would become. There too would he discover the dubious sexual passions that would haunt his life…
Join Tom and Dominic as they discuss the diabolic history of the Byron family, and the young Byron’s birth, troubled upbringing, and controversial adolescence.
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Tom is just so great in his ability to link together similar bits of stuff from different historical eras - like finding two errant socks, the one we know of in the sock drawer, and the other gunky one, fished out from under the fridge, and then showing us how they - in fact - are still very much a match.
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Love the idea of a pod on Mary Shelley.
Definitely
Mary Shelley was a very shallow person. I read all of her letters. And Byron did not like her - which is saying enough for me.
I have gone to sleep many a night, listening to the poetry of Lord Byron. He inspires my poetry and my dreams.
If you're enjoying the content on this channel please remember to hit the subscribe button (if you haven't already), it really helps the channel out!
You guys should do an episode on Yukio Mishima for your next literary figure.
I'm not subscribing because your guest (a typical xenophobe Englishman) doesn't know how to pronounce "Don Juan," as any American can do.
Of course we have plenty of Spanish-speaking people here and apparently that's not the case in good old Blighty.
It reminds me of radio BBC 4 when I used to live in England.
I didn't know about Vampire Byron but that was done by Ann Rice: An interview with a vampire, wasn't it?
Sympathy with the Devil was the last song in the film too. It was a shame that the film was not made when Brad Pitt wasn''t slightly older or someone taller didn't play Lestat.
None the less, despite all the Scientology none-sense, he WAS a great actor.
Just found your channel today.Seems right up my alley. I am a poet and a lover of history.
I read the Vision of Judgment a few days ago and was astonished by how brilliant he is. Love or hate the man, he was a genius.
I've lived my life in the Australian town Byron Bay... captain Cook named it after his homie foul weather jack.... many years later when the town planners came to name the streets in the town, they mistakenly supposed that the town was named for Lord Byron the poet (rather than his grand father) and went and named the streets after poets! Tennyson, keats, Shelly etc..etc..
Sounds like a stroke of serendipity, to me at least.
So residents were spared Foulweather Street 😊 didn't know that, thanks
@@birchlover3377 i should petition for it... there's a new development
Love the show! Please do a series on Giacomo Casanova
I’ve just come across this channel and I’m loving the information, in combination with the observations and dry humour.
Many thanks!
Taylor Swift dying for Ukraine. Genius Tom. . How far we have fallen since Byron.
utterly enjoyable to listen to. Very good timing too. Since I'm going to a series of Byronic talks at the British Library tomorrow. Thank you so much. 🐻🦁
Please visit Newstead and take the guided tour.
Please visit Newstead and take the guided tour, you won't regret it.
Byronmania! Like Beatlemania. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah yeah.
Screamin' Lord Byron... the Byronic Man!
Yes. Byron was a phonomena.
Ooh this is great! Do William Blake soon please!
Indeed!OH yes!
You two are like a box of chocolates: you never know what you're gonna get. 😀
To be clear: I love it! 😉
My favourite podcast keeps getting better 🎉
He was and still is one and only.
I adore his poetry ❤❤❤❤
An episode on 'Foul Weather Jack' Byron, the wreck of the Wager or Anson's voyage in general would make a great episode or two.
Great subject! You guys have done it again….
Were it not for Byron, his questionable influence, and a rainy evening on the lake, there would be no Frankenstein. 'Nuff said!
How often has any culture been lucky to have Woman start new ideas. Islam started with Mohammeds wife in a way!She is so rarely talked about.
@@MrInterestingthings Chicks get short shrift. It isn't fair! Women are magic...
Wait who is Nuff?
@@CommieGobeldygook Nuff is a cinematographer who worked on the film "Mary Shelley". He made this remark on set, and Mary Elle shared it with me later...
@afwalker1921 That is very interesting, I didnt know that thank you. I'll put it in my essay
Only just found your channel whilst searching for info on Lord Byron, as I knew almost nothing about him. Very informative, and I love your style 😊
Love all the podcasts, keep it up!
Thoroughly enjoyable and fascinating!
Brilliant podcast, and loving the video component. Cheers, gentlemen. Keep up the good work!
"Mad, Bad & Dangerous To Know"
That did not stop people from wanting to know him. In fact, it only made him more attractive.
So glad I found your channel! Im hooked.
My favourite podcast....I'm obsessed!
i just discovered you guys! Love it -- make sure you discuss Ada Lovelace, his daughter!
I am hooked on the rest is politics, football now history!!
The Rest is History is my favorite podcast. I listen to some of the episodes several times. The greatest part is that you are quite funny and laugh at the absurdity of these people.I only now found out that you are live on CZcams. I listen in the evening in my bed.
So good!
Amazing. Every comment is written in perfect English. Coincidence? I think not.
Very interesting and entertaining. Thank you.
Superb!!
Very enjoyable podcast
Wasn't Benjamin Franklin a world wide or at least Europe wide celebrity before this? Or was that a case of lower expectations? "Benjamin Franklin was a huge celebrity... you know... for an American." He even got a surprising amount of attention from women. Which is more impressive given he looked objectively horrible at the time. Like some rock stars we wonder at in our time.
Really enjoying this one. I know the name but know little else about Lord Byron. Looking forward to more of a deep dive into this interesting and unsettling historical figure.
American’s have to always be “number #1” 😂😂😂 the inferiority complexity is hilarious
I was trying to imitate Lord Byron but perhaps the lack of good looks and desperation has caused me not to be so successful at it.
😂
Perhaps money is the one ingredient you lack to perfectly emulate Byron.
Byron became Lord Byron when inheriting title and estate upon death of his father.
Then a fabulous coal resource was discovered on land soon making Byron fabulously wealth.
My problem was lack of talent...
Mine is having a club Brian.
@@penelopehill9710It’s interesting how many famous poets/painters/musicians throughout history only became so because they had access to money and connections, and how literally nothing has changed, and yet so many fall for the lie that only talent is required.
Frankly I knew close to nothing about Lord Byron apart from his reputation. After I enjoyed your 4-part-podcast I have the feeling I've read hundreds of pages about his life and works. All that with a healthy pinch of dry British humour which I love. A big thanks from Germany. I'd love to listen to similar episodes about Keats, Blake, Tennyson or Yeats.
Lots of blather about what they're gonna talk about. They actually start talking history at 20:00. I guess that's where The REST is history come from. Really enjoyed a lot of the chin wagging, especially such details as distinguishing among 'cad', 'bounder', and 'rotter'! Love your language, good show!
Much better thumbnail!
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Haven't yet seen all this podcast and so far not disappointed. But, on the point of Byron being the first international celebrity, Rick Wakeman did an interesting documentary but gave that accolade to Vivaldi if I remember.
I thought Tom only spoke this way about Cesar ! 😂
Heard them all and they are all ripping. Even in this current climate still utterly shocking.
Still waiting to hear if you’ll do a series on the Lunar Society tho. Keep dropping hints. Darwin. Wedgewood. Watt. The list goes on
I live for your podcasts!! 💥
I'm thinking, Jim Morrison?
I'm thinking, Jiimy Cricket or Jimmy Kranky.?
Wonderful series, apart from his tastes, you have to admit, we are all drawn to this man
what a fantastic postcast
"Why is he sleeping with his sister?"
"She has lots of money"
1/2 sister
Actually his half-sister was very poor. Married to an abusing idiot.
His half-sister was very poor. Married to an aristocratic idiot. Inform yourself.
This is fun - but the gay thing is totally exaggerated and overplayed - he was not skulking around London worried he was going to be put in the pillory - he was just a classic English public schoolboy
Byron highlights how the human imagination often outshines reality. Especially when an epoch approaches a supremely decadent phase.
His infamous club foot meant he lurched into rooms. Some say, due to his foot... he was fat due to inactivity.
Many men on first seeing him... openly laughed.
The lake behind my house in McLeod County Minnesota is named for him.
It isn't deep and motorboats are not allowed on it.
I will learn from this. I know next to nothing about Byron....
GUYS, WHAT PART OF "MAD, BAD AND DANGEROUS TO KNOW" CAUSES YOU CONFUSION?
Do Eddie ‘the Eagle’ Edwards.
My family came over with William but lost everything for the wrong side in the civil war
The mark of Caine? Not a lot of people know that.
I had no idea....
19 Aπριλη 2024, σαν σημερα συμπληρώνονται ακριβως 200 χρονια απο το θανατο του Λορδου Βυρωνα στο Μεσολόγγι. Ο Βύρωνας εδωσε τη ζωη του για την Ελλαδα, και το ονομα του στη γειτονια του Βυρωνα, στην Αθήνα. Ο Λόρδος Βύρωνας ειναι ο καλύτερος αγγλος ποιητης του 19ου αιώνα.
That would be Keats, surely.
How about Seamus Heaney`s translation of Beowulf mate?
And a pash still means a kiss in Oz
Hence 'pash rash' caused by making out with someone with a beard or stubble.
Yeah and i have a old beard😁
I would argue for Rupert Brooke as the most beloved European figure in Greece. His grave site on Skyros is a tremendously moving place. That aside, I love this profile of Byron. Well done.
Both Byron and Brooke died of illness rather than 'heroically' in combat, fighting an oppressive occupying power, but it has never detracted from their allure.
Wikipedia have some interesting facts
He was unable to dance because of his club foot which limited him heavily with his social engagements
His half sister looked a lot like him
He stepped on very dangerous grounds because of a lack of sexual identity, specially in his country
Rich by birth, baron at 10
The lines that hit me the most were his lasts:
"Seek thou lest often sought than found, the soldier's grave, for thee the best
Then look around, & choose thy ground
& take thy rest"
Same article adds that he died due to a weakened immune system aggravated by a bloodlet, a practice used at the time
A painting also appears of him in his deathbed
Not rich at birth. Byron's father squandered his mother's money, then died when Byron was about 3.
37:42 What kind of question is this? He's ten, of course it is against his will. He cannot consent. A child doesn't have the responsibility of refusing sexual activity. The nurse mais, the adult, was the one who should have kept her hands off of him.
I was eleven when my step-dad came into my room, pulled back my covers, and leaned close to me. I woke up and told him, "If you touch me, I will tell." He didn't touch me. I had learned to say, "No" two years earlier and the power of my 'no' has protected me ever since.
@@tw2987I'm sorry that happened to you and that is very fortunate you said no and they walked away. Yet no child should be in that situation. My comment was about the question of "consent" the adults always are in the wrong when it comes to a child. Consent doesn't exist when they are a child, it's just abuse. What happened to you was a form of abuse regardless of them leaving that night because I'd imagine you then lived in fear or anxiety.
Also some children do say No and still are manipulated or threatened by the person abusing them. The onus should never be on the child but on the adult.
He was born 4 days before the founding of Australia. My country
Rather disconcertingly wistful gaze you’re casting over Byron in the thumb nail…even in death it seems his attraction persists!
3 mistresses is a little excessive! Ha!😮
Well... perhaps it says something about the times we live in, or just about me, but I' would much rather listen to 1970s' politics than about "romantic" "heroes" such as Lord Byron. And I love poetry!
I always thought that Beatle group and their women were the modern day equivalent of Shelly and his group. Also recall Byron had the brain size of an 80 year old man when he died.
Foul weather Jack sounds like the title of a song by The Fall
I have read lots and the world are filled with good writers. Life is to short and my mind to important to use as a garbage bin for malignant writers no matter how popular
I regard Byron as the tops, but was he ever the bottoms?
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Delights of the orient!
I'm wondering what Byron would have made of Bruce Lee?!
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Some love Keats.
There was no cure for club foot.
I think "Manfred" is his best work.
Maybe "Cain."
What is the best biography of Byron?
The Life of Erroll Flynn! 😎
Flings with coachmen? Sounds like Ulrika Jonsson.
He had big life
Has Tom Holland read Ann Rice or was she inspired by Byron too?
Oh I was just thinking of Oscar Wilde when you guys mentioned him. Some similar things but I don't think Oscar was that cruel or that messed up
He was a very naughty boy.
Noice
C’est moi!
err Don Juuu anne?! 😂
that is the accepted pronunciation, rather than the standard Spanish.
had a CLUB FOOT.
Im from Byron in Athens Greece
May Gray, not Agnes Grey.
When Agnes retired to get married, her sister May (the rapist) took over
Lord Byron was the template for rock heroes like Mick Jagger, except he was smarter.
Don Joo-æn!
42:34 lmao
I wonder what they edited out while they were on the subject of homosexuality and what not.
That laugh ...was hilarious...considering the current culture context. He wants to tell Tom to chill but he can't cuz he is laughing lol
42:05
I want Brad Pitt, Angelique Jolie, Johnny Depp, and the former French partner to be in this movie!
@46:28 *TIL* 4 stone = 56 lbs.!
Good until the commercial... goodbye
The word "is" is meant to be capitalized in a titles, hence it should be The Rest Is History. Not seeing it capitalized is an eyesore! You may want to research when title words are capitalized. You may have thought because it is only two letters it isn't capped, but not so.
Lord Byron was ME when we arrived in Venice during Carnivale in January of '93 and proceeded to drink 🍸 & deabauch our way across every sestiere & campo we could. Then, one day, I got tired of sleeping on the couch in the LR of the place I'd arranged for us from back home, and I growled at Titsworth, "I'm taking the bedroom. You're on the couch." And in that bedroom, on my first night in 2 months of not drinking for 12 hours, was a copy of Jeannette Winterson's The Passion, and we read it in one sitting, and it changed our life. Such is the way of good words, since all is either perception or opinion. *waves*
More like Nick Cave, even, than Jagger.
Where is your evidence that Agnes Grey abused Byron, or is it just a necessary aspect needed in this day and age?
Try reading any number of biographies .
Why is he pronouncing ‘Don Juan’ like that?
That's the way Byron pronounced it - he rhymed it with "true one".
@@aaronfacer Interesting, thanks.
Its the same as the Scottish Ewan
As a former resident of the great city of Cambridge, I am proud of the stort about keeping a bear when he was a student
@@andrewscuoler287 well as they say, ‘it takes Juan to know Juan’.
Who's taylor swift?
Shelley > Byron
it is shocking that this story hasn't been made into a series ....Can see this given the HBO treatment....
Please no !
@@bearhustler why not ?? Has everything...like GOTR but actually happened..
There was a 2003 TV film starring Jonny Lee Miller (Sick Boy from Trainspotting).
I think there may be only enough to make a film based upon his life, and that of his father and grandfather, perhaps, too. The historical account isn’t large, nor detailed enough, to make a more accurate account in a movie format.
But it certainly is strange that more creative storytellers haven’t used the mysterious romanticism of this dudes life, and death, and the aura around it all, as a vehicle to tell stories of a similar ilk.
Edit: it just occurred to me that I may well just be a terrible troglodyte, and therefore ignorant of the vast assemblage of great movies, that use all, or parts, of Lord Byron’s life story.