Why Female Mountaineers Don't Climb K2.
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- čas přidán 11. 09. 2024
- Towering at an uninhabited border stretch between Pakistan and China, K2 is a very difficult mountain. It is called the 'savage mountain' because of its difficulty and real challenge. The ascent to its peak is riddled with slippery, sheer slopes of ice, including the feared "bottleneck", a 100-metre slope with a gradient of 80 to 90 degrees close to the summit. The first woman to scale its summit was Poland's Wanda Rutkiewicz, considered the greatest woman mountaineer. She stood on top of the mountain on June 23 1986, just hours ahead of Frenchwoman Liliane Barrard.
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It’s actually safer to climb a volcano during an eruption.
*for women
Im a volcano during an Eruption and can confirm this is true
You failed to mention Cecilie Skog who summited with Lars Nessa on August 1, 2008. They were the first Norwegians to summit K2 and were part of the 2008 expedition where 11 other climbers died. That's a huge omission. Bestselling books and acclaimed documentaries have been created about this 2008 K2 tragedy.
Exactly and she made it safely back
Yes, one !!! The point here is females can't and won't climb K2.... and also there are no boasting rights from K2 outside of the real climbing community, so for a female, there's no point !
If the ascent is successful, but the descent is not, why is the climber credited with the summit? Doesn't get down complete the journey? Just asking.
Messmer only honours climbers that have made it back and survived the mountains. Might sound harsh but's that the way it is.
Reaching the summit is reaching the top. It is an achievement in itself. It’s like scoring an achievement in a game. A goal in soccer/football or a home run in baseball counts for the player even if the team loses the game.
I can understand though not counting a summit climb with a failed descent, though, if you say the climber didn’t pace themselves well or was too slow or late to avoid climbing in darkness. It’s hard to criticize a failed descent because you’re talking about a recently deceased person. It seems a tricky topic. I see the comment that someone has decided. Idk if all climbers follow that person’s judgement. If so, there it is.
Grace Tseng summited K2 this morning 7/22/22 so proud of her praying for her safe descent
Aided and fully supported by a team of close to 10 Sherpa. She was carried up.
@@SSD92_x Have you climbed k2?
You dont need to have done something to havw an opinion on it you silly goose.
There is now numerous speculation and reports that says she has faked many of her summits
@@killaninjas shes stating facts. Where are yours
It would have been interesting to explain why, statistically, there is so few women climbing the mountain, it's not "only" because od the extreme difficulty of the climb
That’s what I was hoping for as well.
You didn't mention Karina oliani, she is , she is brazilian and reached the top of k2.
Karina has reached the top of everest twice, too.
Check the Channel Karina Oliani.
I really detest the woke crowd, but the implications from this video are pre-90's relic mountaineering sexism (famously Arelene Blum was told she could climb to 20k feet and cook for the men, but couldn't climb to the summit and Hillary made a huge fuss about a guy's wife joining them at base camp due a woman joining them). Can you provide any data that there is a statistical difference between the number of women who climb Annapurna and K2, or Kenchunja and K2? The lack of any real data here other than "women summitted the hardest mountain in the world later on than men", which is true about every large mountain, is where the obvious sexist implications exist.
If women lead a climb and men were on that climb, would that somehow change the accomplishment of those men?
Or alternatively, not many women have climbed K2 because women couldn't even climb with men for decades after the famous 50s-60s 8000m climbs, and the Karakoram requires women to go through Pakistan not too far from the Afghan border. Unfortunately, that means women have to add another layer of contemplation and safety considerations that men do not have to.
The woke crowd? You’ve been taking in too much media mate.
Thats why Wanda Rutkiewicz was such a unbelievable legend
Its not just natural endurance its the lack of perspiration and women require about 5% more oxygen, higher lung ventilation higher respiratory demands. Women have a much higher vascular sensitivity to cold so their blood flow shuts down sooner and are more prone to things like Acute Mountain Sickness or High Altitude Cerebral Edemas which in at least one case wiped out an entire all woman climbing group.
I could climb that in my sleep…literally .
acting like male climbers aren't short roped by sherpas on Everest 😭😂
So you're basically saying these women are not really successful as long as men are involved in their expedition. Wow. That, my friend, is called sexism.
Or it's a fact. Leave your 2021 bs elsewhere!
Get over yourself
@@felipepineda1585 The men didn't climb for them though.. Sure they were in a group with males as well.. but that must logically mean that men, need other men, to make the climb? Doesn't make much sense but I'm not a mountaineer so.
@@_Jake.From.Statefarm_without porters, most summits would never have happened
without sherpas, even fewer
they are locals, not always men, but without them you wouldn't get anywhere close with the little actual exposure you get to high altitude environments
full alpine summits are rarer than anything
It's a fact.. let them hire some female sherpas if they want an all women team..
Why does this only have 40 likes CZcams is so weird bro
@Robert Beckyou are not a man
Based on this video itself, I would have to say women do climb K2.
So that stats actually paint a picture that woman have a high degree of success climbing...
How come there aren't many decending videos. I would like to see how they get down.
Descent is where the real danger starts. These people wanna get off the mountain ASAP so they don't usually film
@@MtGuyful i am so curious how they do it!
@@krillin876 I guess stumble down? They're exhausted and oxygen deprived
Apparently, a lot of them Do Not make it down....
Because it is too grueling to stop and film. They’re trying to get the heck off there. People forget it’s not the going up that can be fatal it is the coming down. Reaching the summit is about 1/3 of the victory. The other 2/3 is going down. Stamina and attitude
this seems sexist. and im not a liberal. recently a 62 year old woman did it. and if only 10% of climbers are women, what percent of mountaineers are women? it is probablh also low due to societal conditioning and personal preferences. i actually just downloaded a document yesterday about fatalitites for mountaineers, and sex didn't make a big difference. not as much as age did
Klara Klouchova did summit a czech republic climber
Probably no longer on video but on that fateful K2 day when 11 died, the first accident in perfect conditions was so awful to see. Probably one of the few mountains where the fallen all end up in the glacier at the bottom and the description of a red streak left on the snow made me shudder.
Which video did you see that?
@@wgisgr8 I can’t remember if it was a video about the very first mission with Alister Crowley or the Italian group. Needless to say it wasn’t captured on camera but the way it was described was horrific with a red streak all the way that long ice section. There was actual footage once of the area at the bottom where most of the body parts end up next to the memorial and again it’s really horrific with a constant smell and various feet and goodness knows what else🤮 K2 is like a classic children’s drawing of a mountain and depending where people fall there’s a good chance of ending up back at the bottom
Carla Perez reach the summit k2 and Everest in 2019 without oxigen
Carla Perez from É o Tchan? Wow this is fantastic
I don’t know why include someone who got up and down and died on an another Mountain- if we would include that it wouldn’t be 30% death rate but probably really close to 90%…
Karina Oliani from Brazil summited it too, and she is alive
It’s quite possible Allison was blown off the mountain for goodness knows how many miles. Having had a perfect summit she ran into the worst possible storm that would of snapped any amount of ropes
Didn’t they find her body right by camp 4?
@@Dodgers-sw2uk one to look up I guess but I seem to remember given that the storm was of such magnitude, something about her literally being blown off the mountain. Her son would later be found on Nanga Parbat on a literal winter suicide mission with the Italian guy
Men are stronger than women on avg.
Bracing myself for incoming feminist.
Only 1/6 people will die playing Russian Roulette, your chances are worse on K2
Great video and info.
Kanchenjungha is in India
What was your point 😂
Hey Morris! Have a safe weekend and thanks for awesome video !💙👍
Khangchendzonga is not in Nepal. It is in Sikkim which is a state in the northeast India since 1975. Sikkim was a individual kingdom before that.
I knew that Kangchenjunga (as it's spelt here in Blighty) is in India, indeed I was about to comment as much. But I thought I'd check to see if I'd been beaten to it, as you did...in detail I was unaware of. Thanks for that, we're never too old to learn, but I shouldn't be too complimentary to you, given how India's cricket team are currently destroying England in the year-late final Test match of last season's series. :-)
@@bodsnvimto 😊 what a nice and positive comment. Whole heartedly accepted 🙏
@@dawagensapa6885 Yes, cheers back to you but, let's face it, words like "nice", "positive" and "whole heartedly accepted" aren't usual in this largely vile, hate-filled medium taken over by keyboard bullies/real life inadequates.. Best to you and yours in whatever you do, mate...except beating us at cricket!!!!
@@bodsnvimto 😅👍 cheers man 🥂
Zawsze pamiętajcie o Wandzie Rutkiewicz! Niech żyje Polska ❤️
Women do climb K2 🧐
You forgot Nadia and cicila bae
Dude that sucks!?...women kick ass!!....I definitely won't be visiting k2....or...any mountain....ever....esp with scarce females!
because they are smart
check out 'Catherine Destivelle - Awesome free solo climbing in Mali'
Miss ur own voice not this narrator
Yeah, where's the original guy ?
To be fair his thick Italian accent is pretty hard to understand at times, I wish he would at least provide subtitles
I am way disappointed in this video. The risks for men are the same for women on K2. Statistically it's the same. In fact, more men than women have died on K2. There's nothing in the video that accurately depicts the challenges of a female mountaineering over a male mountaineer. I feel like this is click bait. Mountain Queen, I've been watching and commenting on your videos since you first started. I was one of the first who commented. I'm sad to say I'm disappointed in the inherent misogyny of this video. I never thought I'd say that on your channel. What a bummer. Next time you want to get people talking about sexist opinions as to women mountaineers, then be more upfront about it, or provide actual statistics and scientific facts. And I miss your voice as opposed to this narrator.
@@backpackingcapebreton So, why don't they just do it w/o men?
@@backpackingcapebreton Goon? Those who support are wait for it...MEN. You're trying to argue something that's not arguable. Another white knight.
@@backpackingcapebreton Speaking of avatars. Did your wife have to set that tent up for you? lol
You were clearly triggered by the title. Did you even watch the video?
@@saxy1player Clearly you're threatened by women, so you attack. Chill out. We all watched the video or was that a rhetorical question. I can't tell with all the hostility on this thread. And that's a shame. I'd hate to cancel my sub to Mountain Queen, but if the Trump Nazis want to take over, I'll give it to them with videos like this in its feed.
Odd video. On avg yea men may have a avg advantage in something like this. Just like Basketball. But women have and still can. Some much better then me so..
This is a really strange video you do realize women are better climbers than men right
...no they aren't. How could the physically weaker sex be better at such a physically demanding endeavor?
@@rodericblack4657 Im going to go out on a limb here and say that body types are not exactly cookie cutter... Some women are stronger than 90% of men but the 10% that they aren't stronger than are also a level above everyone else.. I guess it's perspective. There are female gymnast that are stronger than i will ever be no matter how much I work out. Same can be said about some women that might never be stronger than your avg. male. Not everyone is built the sameway. Do you think you're stronger than everyone woman on the planet? I'd say a lot of it probably comes down to sheer numbers of high level climbers and less about what the stronger sex is.. It's not like the guys climbing are powerlifting, they are conditioned to climb..