Extreme Bull Commander VS Kingsong S20 VS Veteran Abrams VS Begode Hero
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- čas přidán 18. 09. 2021
- Lets see how these 4 NEW EUC's Stack up!
Which wheel is your favorite ?
My favorite in order:
1. #kingsongs20
2. #veteranabrams
3. #begodehero
4. #extremebullcommander
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Very nice review.
Very poor!
@@EUCvibes is there a realistic way to get those colors in some way on an s20? it would be amazing
Where was the review? Showing stock pictures and reading up from the specs, is not exactly a review of anything...
I'm going to try and get Abrams and S20 V1s. Based upon my Sherman V1 and my S18 V1, I'm expecting an amazing wheel with the Abrams, and a very real roll of the dice with the S20. I could see the S20 having all kinds of problems with manufacturing margins and all the moving parts... exactly like my v1 S18. I want to continue to support Kingsong's progressive design
Just curious, what was the repair process like for you? Was everything covered under warranty?
You forgot to mention the Eagle has 126volts which is of the biggest upgrades on a EUC, not to mention the biggest upgrade in suspension and speed for a suspension wheel
I put my deposit instantly I knew this wheel was going to be the wheel of all wheels, take my money king song! You deserve it
Do you have the speed limit after 50% and another at 25% or whatever? I didn't like hearing that in the others
@@heyby8764 wellll I’m not exactly sure there hasn’t been that type of info revealed I know of, but if they follow the idea of the previous S-18, there is a speed reduction at like 30% , and with the higher voltage and motor I don’t think it would go up so that’s good, but it’s better than pushing it and having a cutout but now the limit will be higher than 15mph on the S18, and I haven’t had a cutout yet on a ks wheel so it’s good have that in the long run
@@heyby8764 they focus on safety, but I haven’t noticed that speed reduction on the S-18 so it shouldn’t be a Issue on such a bigger battery because of the lack of voltage sag like on a small battery
Hope the Helps
@@thefoss721 cool thanks for the info 👍. I ride a msp hs no cutouts too cheers bro
@@heyby8764 that’s really good to hear! I decided to just stick with KS because of the inability to push past push back cause I get excited and wanna go super freaking fast so it’s good in the long run, and now KS has a upcoming high performance wheel that will scratch that itch lol
MSP Hs is a amazing wheel I’ve heard though! Ride well mate!
S20 knobby all the way for me. I’m surrounded by MTB meccas and trails, and west coast is the wet coast for a chunk of the year. Note: those stock ride height specs are unloaded? Probably. They’ll drop with rider load. I hope I can swap the propriety shock and get a Fox, dial the preload and pop like a banshee.
My exn now has a tubeless Michelin pilot street 80/90-14 tire on it. It allows for lower PSI because it has a stiffer carcass than a tube tire. I run 25psi. The difference between a street tire and the crap CST knobby the exn comes with is night and day! Knobby is loud and felt "wandery". The street tire is quiet and smooth like you're riding on glass. I have a deposit on the s20 and have paid in full for the v12. Waiting sux!
I'm with you, s20!
@@EUCvibes looking forward to that new S20 video from Kuji
I want to see if the S 20 is as good as advertised. I find it amazing they leaked the spec without a real video of a working wheel. There are a lot of talented people out there who can make an animated video of a wheel. At least the Hero had Kuji riding one and we're seeing videos of a real wheel.
There is a video of S20 👊🏼💥
@@ironfacemusic Please post the link here. Thanks in advance.
Kuji actually has the kingsong s20 and he will be making a video on it confirmed by ewheels sent to me after my preorder of the s20
S20 what price?
Yeah that S20 looks awesome. I'd get that over the Abrams for sure especially if it costs less.
Same here, bruddah. I need a suspension wheel to add to my collection and the S18 almost did it for me. This one is checking all of the boxes and looks to be the wheel for me. I would, however, wait until the 2nd or 3rd batch so that all of the kinks can be worked out. Also, get a knobby on it because Northern Cali can be rather wet with crummy roads.
I dont need no damn speakers on my ride..
with a tubless tire you can install a rubber insert that prevents rim damage when riding at low pressures ;) i have been waiting for this move, GJ Veteran!
Dope Vid! I want them all but I'll go for the S20🙌🏽😁
Is there any info if a knobby tire can be ordered as stock?
Does the speaker of the Commander perform the way it looks? They might get me for the speaker alone m.
I love the KingSong S20, so I am considering ordering that one.
Does anyone know how that wheel will handle riding on regular streets at high speeds?
Are these type of suspension-wheels less stable when riding on asphalt at 50-70 km/h compared to regular wheels? (compared to something like a Begode RS19 HS)
I ride v11 on asphalt at 50km/h, your body will adjust to the suspension wheel, v11 is my first euc and I've been riding it for 6 months reaching 2500km, the more I ride and the more my body adjust to the wheel, the more I enjoy my v11 😊🙏
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Good info. Good to know I'll be broke most of next year...smh
(Hero is $3599, btw. Confirmed by Begode)
Don't know if the microphone or the speaker is bad, but that speaker recording sounds like crap.
Beautiful review
Fuck i wish i could have all the wheels
Four-eyed Bizarro Creepy Nerd Riders of Veteran Sherman hit the roads!
The Hero looks cool and it's the only wheel I've seen in videos. Everything else is just paper. If the price drops, it's a wheel I want for offroad.
KingSongS20 is also on video 🙌🏼
@@ironfacemusic S20 video is rendered and not real.
In 👑 🎶 we trust 🙌
Nice review.
Hero 👍👍👍👍🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
S20 will be my next wheel. But I am not impressed by the solution for the lights.
Abrams looks really high quality. It looks a lot better in newer photo's.
Baluga Hero is to expensive. But looks like a fantastic performing wheel.
I am not impressed by the Commander. I think the build quality will be lacking...like the extreme Bull k4 scooter.
There is American Euc Coming out Soon,
Oh really? Got a link to that? Or is that too soon?
The bottom left S20 fan art was silver and black not white and black.
@@EUCvibes
Yep, the S18 looked amazing in black and white.
How many miles on avg you thinking we’d get on an s20 charge. Averaging like 28mph
Between 70 and 90 maybe
@@vydelhicks9099 that would be amazing👏
@@vydelhicks9099 that’s optimistic given the 2200wh battery and 126v system.
I’d say more like 50 miles
If the s20 lives up to the hype, then that's my next wheel
Man i can aggravate every one with heavy metal as i ride.
perhaps what you meant to say was bless
Tubeless tyres are less prone to blow outs.
Probably necessary for a 100 lbs wheel without suspension..
Abrams, all day everyday.
4 grand, they are out of their minds. 😂😂
Sherman is the best. All the new wheels are gimmicky copys of it. The best second choice is the v11 for suspension. I was hoping for a smaller lightweight Sherman with suspension. Mabie next year.
Tossed down my S20 deposit.....
O HELL YEAH
Abrams teams be like here
Commander double speaker on the back but havn't à real back light, its à joke...
Lmao lots of cheese yo
Don't like the commander speakers in the back. I do want the begode hero. Abrams has a tubeless tire which is sad news. Kingsong s20 look like a Gundam on a wheel and it's a dirt magnet. Commander and Hero looks good. Abrams.............dam you tubeless tire.
In mountain biking tubeless is the gold standard.
With a tubeless tire all you have to do is plug it with rubber and glue just like a car tire. No taking the wheel apart, removing some or all of the tire just to get to the inner tube, then reassembling the wheel. Easy, hopefully at least with the bigger wheels tubeless becomes the standard.
@@EUCvibes Just an example and I never had a punctured tire on my knobby tires yet. But with a puncture tire.....you can use a plug yes or a fix-a-flat/green slime, but that will make it a little messy inside and the plug will maybe off balance the wheel at high speed. I maybe wrong on that idk. Either way you have a puncture in the tire. So with a tire and tube........you can replace the tube and done. Taking apart a unicycle for a tire change is important. It has to be a easy way...........some how. Guess a tubeless tire will be good if you get a puncture in the middle of your trip and you have a fix a flat handy. Could work out.
You can always add a tube to a tubeless set up :) Tubeless is actually a better design from
The get go.
S20 all the way.
Don't forget the s20 is the first and only wheel that is senorless...
What does senorless mean?
I thought i read that abrams and comander can do 60mph = 100kph aprox. I find it strange the s20 3000w only 70kph when a mod z10 of less than 1000w can do 60kph.
Im betting... hopeing someone can do 100kph on s20.
Side note... a 1000w wheel off.
Is 250w on and the rest is ballance.
the z10 has quite a bit more than that, around 1800w.
@@Rocksaplenty i thought it was 995 off and 248 on...give me a few minutes ill check and post back. Thanks.
@@Rocksaplenty you are correct 1800w off.
995 is battery.
Sorry i was wrong. I seen vid today of 58kph with Rissian firmware upgrade.
I still would perfer of course s20 do 100kph max beeping. Thanks for correction on motor. I wish you nice success. Thank you.
So z10 on 450w due to ballancing required consuption under load. Thats generslized 1/4 calculation being a balancing euc.
It would be 1800w operational if bicycle wirh no balance consuption requirement.
Veteran sherman 3500w off. Max spec speed 72kph.
Z10 1800w off with mod max with rider on in operation 58kph.
So veteran sherman is 1700w bigger for 14kph faster.
Z10 could be $1350.
Sherman $4200. Plus shipping. Plus tax. Be around 6 grand for me.
For extra 14kph.
DO YOUR THING T 1
Hero : biggest ripoff ever. piss poor range, not that great motor power, heavier than the sherman, tallest wheel, overly expensive...
No thanks,2,000.00 enough for me
Speakers?.... not the best start for an EUC roundup. Sending you a moleskin skinny black book notepad and clutch pencil through the ethernet to organise your inner self Dude...