Cast your mind back to season 1, when it was all stand-alone episodes and the focus was on the Love Square and it wasn't even explicit that Gabriel was Hawkmoth. How distant that all seems now! How dark the tone of the show has become! And indeed, how rushed this finale was compared to its counterparts in previous seasons. In a nutshell, the creators got bogged down in so much detail that they couldn't resolve it organically, giving things the time they needed to be explained and resolved. It's a pity, because the story in itself had so much potential to be powerful; ultimately we had to settle for a powerful final showdown between Ladybug (Bug Noire) and Monarch. Some have argued that at the last, Gabriel got a redemption insofar as Marinette touched the one part of his heart that wasn't blackened by burning obsession and persuaded him to amend his wish so that it simply encompassed him reuniting with Emilie, even for one brief moment in death. That is, however, undone by the fact that (as you said, Luna) he remained devious until the end. And that deviousness lingers beyond Gabriel's mortal existence - indeed, Marinette is perpetuating it by maintaining the lie to Adrien that his father and Monarch were not the same. That could have profound consequences for their relationship in future, if he finds out the truth. Season 5 may have ended with the pairing that so many fans wanted to see above all others - Marinette and Adrien - but it's very possible than in season 6 they will be ripped apart by revelations, and the rest of the Love Square may sail yet again. Lila is an enigma wrapped in a mystery tied up with strings of danger. Given that Gabriel's wish yielded a "perfect" world - too perfect to be credible, really - that final scene sows the seed for ruining that perfection. Lila's motives are unclear, though with her vendetta against Marinette she has entirely different reason to use the Butterfly Miraculous against her and against her friends and loved ones, and that bodes well for dangerous and exciting storylines coming up. She may akumatise Adrien or even Marinette, creating a real problem for the superhero team. However, before any of that becomes possible we will have to discover just what it was that alarmed her at the end. Was it Bunnix, or some other character from the future? Was it someone from the alternate universe, as we'll see in the Paris Special? Was it whoever Lila reports to - or will find herself reporting to - in taking over the Butterfly Miraculous? Was it Gabriel back from the dead, perhaps because he wished that along with wishing to be reunited with Emilie? (We don't actually know what he wished for; we can only hazard a guess from what the wish appeared to do, so the possibilities are unbounded.....) It has been quite the entertaining pleasure to see you explore this series, Luna - yet this isn't goodbye between you and the series, because there's still so much more to come!
The wish is still unknown, but we do know he traded his life to heal Nathalie in doing it. She's seen at the pool with Amélie (and yes it was confirmed to be Adrien's aunt/Félix's mom), but the writers warned the viewers in a reaction to the finale that not everything is as it seems in the new reality.
I kinda wish that they repaired (going to repair) the destroyed miraculouses (that got turned into rings) by going into the Order of the Guardians’ Temple in Tibet. With this, it keeps the magical and mysterious aspect of the miraculouses, instead of just being normal jewellery that Marinette made
Wait it's confirmed the new jewels are created by Marinatte? I thought the Miraculous Ladybug reversed the chaos Monarch created, hence reversing the destruction of the jewels
Ok so over the past week I binged watched these reactions... starting with s1 e1 about what, 8 years worth lol... and now there's a season 6 coming later this year
Hi Luna-Tk, I love you so much, your content and reactions are so Pawsome!!😍 I was impatiently waiting for this review to see your reaction at the end😁 I think in season 6, Adrien could find out his dad was Monarch because of the message that Ladybug leaves on Cat Noir's Voicemail🤔 (if it has not been deleted by the wish) that would be a great plot twist for the rest of the season... Good luck for the future and can't wait to see your reaction to the Paris Special and the next seasons!!😘😘
EXACTLY, this world is TOO PERFECT and EERIE! It’s clearly set up for some sort of disaster and we have both Lila and Tomoe Tsurugi who are free and not convicted of anything. Also, Marinette, Su-Han, probably Alya (since she was in the room), Felix, Kagami, all the kwamis, Bunnyx, and especially Tikki and PLAGG know Gabriel was Monarch. It seems like Adrien will find out about Gabriel at some point, not to mention Lila knows it too and she could DEFINITELY use that as some sort of advantage to hurt Adrien!
Pretty fitting that it was ultimately the power of love that ended up defeating Gabriel. What ultimately allowed Marinette to defeat him wasn't her awesome powers as Bug Noire but her reaching out to him as Marinette because the show has always told us that Marinette is still a hero, even without her Miraculous and this episode proves it. Marinette's kindness and empathy managed to convince Gabriel to change his wish and fix the mess he made.
with the exception of Marinette's unhealthy psyche, problems with stalking and her Marie Sue regime of the heroine, who spun moral nonsense as an empty heroine, after which Gabriel changed his mind. It's actually a disgusting decision that Marinette did it by turning on her Marie Sue mode. But you will probably close your eyes to these problems of hers and eat even this nonsense . Speaking of how good she is💀
@@teodoryzI feel the pain. I got harassed by someone just because I was mad Adrien was left out in the finale. As well as disgusted by Marinette’s awful choices.
Sorry I was late for the stream. I like how bug noire called monarch out for being insane. Btw, Idk what happened either at the end✨ and I'm with you, how does the principal not recognize her voice? But I think the secret came out next season.
What happened with Gabriel at the end was kind of a pseudo-redemption: Marinette managed to convince him to stop pursuing Emilie but Gabriel still made the wish, albeit a different one.
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydollForgiveness is ultimately up to the individual. If you don't want to forgive Gabriel for his actions, that's fine, you don't have to. But if someone acknowledges that they messed up, feels remorse for their actions, and is willing to fix their mistakes then they deserve a chance. Gabriel did acknowledge that he messed up, felt remorse for it, and was willing to fix his mistakes BUT he went about it the wrong way which puts him in a weird middle position, hence why I like to call what happened to him a PSEUDO-redemption.
Literally even if he did wish for himself to be with emilie, i think people forget the fact that theres likely chance that he definietly go down first before going up in afterlife lol just for him to redo the good things before going up @@Enderstorm20
This episode was definitely very rushed. And I will NEVER forgive the writers for leaving Adrien out of this episode! Especially keeping him, ONCE AGAIN, in the dark!
I am glad that you liked the finale cause others hate the season 5 finale others think it was the weakest out of all and some just hate season 5 in general idk why me I’m in the middle I like the season 5 finale I just hate the fact that adrien got left out it’s not fair to adrien he should know next season adrien better find out that’s all I can say and another thing I can say is that he finds out as cat noir please. Anyways I have a question for you out of all the episodes of season 5 not including action which one is your favorite and which one is your least favorite that’s my question for your live stream anyways great video btw can’t wait to see your reaction to the Paris special finally see you next Monday❤
A lot of people don't like how adruen wasn't involved in yhe final fight. Personally, it didn't bother me because they did it in a way that made sense. He could have been a potential liability. What bothers me is that Felix wasn't involved in the final battle for some reason. My guess I'd Felix wasn't involved because if he was, gabriel would have never made his wish and lila wouldn't have gotten the miraculous because Felix for sure would have made sure those things never happened
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll chill bruh its not the end of the world, someone people still like s5 finale and enjoyed it Just because adrien isnt there its not the end of the world ._. Also not you get mad over people like things differently than u do when bruh.. people can like or loved whatever they want too Like they have their "own" brains to decide that for themself yknow? ._.
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll so according to your logic people like different things than u they're the problem? Bruh chill people can like whatever they want too and literally its not a thing to be over react about.. literally other mlb reactors or other people still enjoy s5 finale even if adrien isnt it.. Like calm down women, like is your history of harrasing people who like things different than you on tumblr isnt enough and now you go starting a fight with other people or something? Like geez.. thats not very nice of you.
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll like.. you act as if adrien isnt in it is the end of the world or something When i can garunteed you most people and other mlb reactor dont mind and dont care and still enjoy s5 finale anyway... cuz there are stuff that makes them happy, like i get people frustation about this but this isnt the end of the world type stuff.. bruh Its not that deep 💀
He left his son an orphan , with psychological traumas and terrible memories of his tyrannical father .❤❤❤ His wife never resurrected , Natalie almost died , and Gabriel himself suddenly changed his mind and now Adrien was left without relatives . A brilliant victory❤❤❤
@@metehansaygl1859 Adrien's mother did not come back to life, instead Natalie was cured. And this further worsens the situation and adds even more hypocrisy about his "false concern for his son , " which has led to nothing but control over his son 's life . And the only thing to blame here is Gabriel's schizophrenia and the stupid reinterpretation after Marie Sue of Marinette 's speeches , as a result of which their conflict was completely destroyed
Cast your mind back to season 1, when it was all stand-alone episodes and the focus was on the Love Square and it wasn't even explicit that Gabriel was Hawkmoth. How distant that all seems now! How dark the tone of the show has become! And indeed, how rushed this finale was compared to its counterparts in previous seasons. In a nutshell, the creators got bogged down in so much detail that they couldn't resolve it organically, giving things the time they needed to be explained and resolved. It's a pity, because the story in itself had so much potential to be powerful; ultimately we had to settle for a powerful final showdown between Ladybug (Bug Noire) and Monarch.
Some have argued that at the last, Gabriel got a redemption insofar as Marinette touched the one part of his heart that wasn't blackened by burning obsession and persuaded him to amend his wish so that it simply encompassed him reuniting with Emilie, even for one brief moment in death. That is, however, undone by the fact that (as you said, Luna) he remained devious until the end.
And that deviousness lingers beyond Gabriel's mortal existence - indeed, Marinette is perpetuating it by maintaining the lie to Adrien that his father and Monarch were not the same. That could have profound consequences for their relationship in future, if he finds out the truth. Season 5 may have ended with the pairing that so many fans wanted to see above all others - Marinette and Adrien - but it's very possible than in season 6 they will be ripped apart by revelations, and the rest of the Love Square may sail yet again.
Lila is an enigma wrapped in a mystery tied up with strings of danger. Given that Gabriel's wish yielded a "perfect" world - too perfect to be credible, really - that final scene sows the seed for ruining that perfection. Lila's motives are unclear, though with her vendetta against Marinette she has entirely different reason to use the Butterfly Miraculous against her and against her friends and loved ones, and that bodes well for dangerous and exciting storylines coming up. She may akumatise Adrien or even Marinette, creating a real problem for the superhero team. However, before any of that becomes possible we will have to discover just what it was that alarmed her at the end. Was it Bunnix, or some other character from the future? Was it someone from the alternate universe, as we'll see in the Paris Special? Was it whoever Lila reports to - or will find herself reporting to - in taking over the Butterfly Miraculous? Was it Gabriel back from the dead, perhaps because he wished that along with wishing to be reunited with Emilie? (We don't actually know what he wished for; we can only hazard a guess from what the wish appeared to do, so the possibilities are unbounded.....)
It has been quite the entertaining pleasure to see you explore this series, Luna - yet this isn't goodbye between you and the series, because there's still so much more to come!
The wish is still unknown, but we do know he traded his life to heal Nathalie in doing it. She's seen at the pool with Amélie (and yes it was confirmed to be Adrien's aunt/Félix's mom), but the writers warned the viewers in a reaction to the finale that not everything is as it seems in the new reality.
The Post-Credit Scene is so confusing by cutting to a Black Screen on a cliffhanger and leaving Cerise’s fate unknown ending Season 5
We know she is the new hawkmoth that bunnix mentioned
@@hoppie4263I’m talking to Luna-TK not you
@@alexisblake2634 I know but other people can reply still
It's still hard for me to believe that it's finally over after so many years. Can't wait for season 6
Yess!! The episode I have been waiting for you to react to!! Can’t wait!
I'm very excited about the premiere for this one!!
I can't believe I missed the premiere for this episode. For some reason, I didn't wake up to my alarm like I usually do.
I think the wish was he switched the peacock and moth miraculous effects.
I kinda wish that they repaired (going to repair) the destroyed miraculouses (that got turned into rings) by going into the Order of the Guardians’ Temple in Tibet. With this, it keeps the magical and mysterious aspect of the miraculouses, instead of just being normal jewellery that Marinette made
but oh well, we know how this show works. just gotta accept what they give lol
Wait it's confirmed the new jewels are created by Marinatte? I thought the Miraculous Ladybug reversed the chaos Monarch created, hence reversing the destruction of the jewels
@@catlover9524 nope, it was shown in the finale. seems like she made it herself with those materials that she had in her desk.
@@bluet. I thought she created the Mircaulous boxes not the jewels. Was it directly stated she created the jewels or was it just shown?
Ok so over the past week I binged watched these reactions... starting with s1 e1 about what, 8 years worth lol... and now there's a season 6 coming later this year
Thanks for supporting my channel! I hope you've enjoyed the journey! 😅❤️
Hi Luna-Tk, I love you so much, your content and reactions are so Pawsome!!😍 I was impatiently waiting for this review to see your reaction at the end😁 I think in season 6, Adrien could find out his dad was Monarch because of the message that Ladybug leaves on Cat Noir's Voicemail🤔 (if it has not been deleted by the wish) that would be a great plot twist for the rest of the season...
Good luck for the future and can't wait to see your reaction to the Paris Special and the next seasons!!😘😘
EXACTLY, this world is TOO PERFECT and EERIE! It’s clearly set up for some sort of disaster and we have both Lila and Tomoe Tsurugi who are free and not convicted of anything.
Also, Marinette, Su-Han, probably Alya (since she was in the room), Felix, Kagami, all the kwamis, Bunnyx, and especially Tikki and PLAGG know Gabriel was Monarch. It seems like Adrien will find out about Gabriel at some point, not to mention Lila knows it too and she could DEFINITELY use that as some sort of advantage to hurt Adrien!
I cant wait for 1 week😭
Basically, Gabriel exchanged his life for Nathalie's. But there might be more to it than that.
Now you can react to the miraculous reverse special!
There's still the plastic special episode she has to react to before that.
I couldn't find that so I had to skip 😞
@@Luna-TK "Action" or the Paris Special?
@@Enderstorm20 I had to skip action :(
@@Luna-TK Action is on the Miraculous Ladybug official CZcams channel.
This episode was sad for Gabriel I’ll miss his stupid failures
Pretty fitting that it was ultimately the power of love that ended up defeating Gabriel. What ultimately allowed Marinette to defeat him wasn't her awesome powers as Bug Noire but her reaching out to him as Marinette because the show has always told us that Marinette is still a hero, even without her Miraculous and this episode proves it. Marinette's kindness and empathy managed to convince Gabriel to change his wish and fix the mess he made.
with the exception of Marinette's unhealthy psyche, problems with stalking and her Marie Sue regime of the heroine, who spun moral nonsense as an empty heroine, after which Gabriel changed his mind. It's actually a disgusting decision that Marinette did it by turning on her Marie Sue mode. But you will probably close your eyes to these problems of hers and eat even this nonsense . Speaking of how good she is💀
@@teodoryzI feel the pain. I got harassed by someone just because I was mad Adrien was left out in the finale. As well as disgusted by Marinette’s awful choices.
Gabriel's wish was for Natalie to be revived. The cost he paid was his own life. As for what the very last scene means? Nobody knows.
Sorry I was late for the stream. I like how bug noire called monarch out for being insane. Btw, Idk what happened either at the end✨ and I'm with you, how does the principal not recognize her voice? But I think the secret came out next season.
Next the action special and the reverse special
How powerful is bugnoir scaling wise
The most powerful character in the show by far
Please do Owl House while you wait for the new season!
3 days after my birthday 😢
Happy Birthday!! 🎈🎂
What happened with Gabriel at the end was kind of a pseudo-redemption: Marinette managed to convince him to stop pursuing Emilie but Gabriel still made the wish, albeit a different one.
Gabriel should’ve died brutally! He didn’t deserve mercy or peace!
Gabriel did not deserve mercy after being a terroist and an abusive father!
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydollForgiveness is ultimately up to the individual. If you don't want to forgive Gabriel for his actions, that's fine, you don't have to. But if someone acknowledges that they messed up, feels remorse for their actions, and is willing to fix their mistakes then they deserve a chance. Gabriel did acknowledge that he messed up, felt remorse for it, and was willing to fix his mistakes BUT he went about it the wrong way which puts him in a weird middle position, hence why I like to call what happened to him a PSEUDO-redemption.
Literally even if he did wish for himself to be with emilie, i think people forget the fact that theres likely chance that he definietly go down first before going up in afterlife lol just for him to redo the good things before going up
@@Enderstorm20
I don't know if I like this episode. This all seems a bit rushed. I really wish that Adrien knew who Monarch was.
I agree with you. Adrien should have been in this episode more in general too
This episode was definitely very rushed. And I will NEVER forgive the writers for leaving Adrien out of this episode! Especially keeping him, ONCE AGAIN, in the dark!
❤@@tainamichelle2683
Is last episodio 27 Acción último de la quinta temporada y fin 💕🤘
I am glad that you liked the finale cause others hate the season 5 finale others think it was the weakest out of all and some just hate season 5 in general idk why me I’m in the middle I like the season 5 finale I just hate the fact that adrien got left out it’s not fair to adrien he should know next season adrien better find out that’s all I can say and another thing I can say is that he finds out as cat noir please. Anyways I have a question for you out of all the episodes of season 5 not including action which one is your favorite and which one is your least favorite that’s my question for your live stream anyways great video btw can’t wait to see your reaction to the Paris special finally see you next Monday❤
A lot of people don't like how adruen wasn't involved in yhe final fight. Personally, it didn't bother me because they did it in a way that made sense. He could have been a potential liability. What bothers me is that Felix wasn't involved in the final battle for some reason. My guess I'd Felix wasn't involved because if he was, gabriel would have never made his wish and lila wouldn't have gotten the miraculous because Felix for sure would have made sure those things never happened
🤦🏻🤦♂️🤦🏼♂️
You’re the problem with the miraculous fandom! If you think it’s okay that Adrien was left out of this finale! Your crazy!
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll chill bruh its not the end of the world, someone people still like s5 finale and enjoyed it
Just because adrien isnt there its not the end of the world ._.
Also not you get mad over people like things differently than u do when bruh.. people can like or loved whatever they want too
Like they have their "own" brains to decide that for themself yknow? ._.
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll so according to your logic people like different things than u they're the problem?
Bruh chill people can like whatever they want too and literally its not a thing to be over react about.. literally other mlb reactors or other people still enjoy s5 finale even if adrien isnt it..
Like calm down women, like is your history of harrasing people who like things different than you on tumblr isnt enough and now you go starting a fight with other people or something?
Like geez.. thats not very nice of you.
@@FeligamiAdrizoeSworaBunnydoll like.. you act as if adrien isnt in it is the end of the world or something
When i can garunteed you most people and other mlb reactor dont mind and dont care and still enjoy s5 finale anyway... cuz there are stuff that makes them happy, like i get people frustation about this but this isnt the end of the world type stuff.. bruh
Its not that deep 💀
Gabriel win ❤❤❤
He left his son an orphan , with psychological traumas and terrible memories of his tyrannical father .❤❤❤ His wife never resurrected , Natalie almost died , and Gabriel himself suddenly changed his mind and now Adrien was left without relatives . A brilliant victory❤❤❤
@@teodoryz The tragedy of Gabriel Agreste
@@teodoryz At least Adrian's mother is back
@@metehansaygl1859 Adrien's mother did not come back to life, instead Natalie was cured. And this further worsens the situation and adds even more hypocrisy about his "false concern for his son , " which has led to nothing but control over his son 's life . And the only thing to blame here is Gabriel's schizophrenia and the stupid reinterpretation after Marie Sue of Marinette 's speeches , as a result of which their conflict was completely destroyed