What It’s Like To Be A Trans Woman In A Men’s Prison Ft. Moka Dawkins
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- čas přidán 22. 05. 2024
- The data is clear: LGBTQ2S+ people are overrepresented at every stage of the criminal justice system and this is especially true for trans people, who are subject to particularly inhumane conditions and treatment while incarcerated. Today we’re taking a deep dive into the experience of being trans behind bars. We’re using the Canadian correctional system & our guest Moka Dawkin's story as a case study, but this reality is all too common and often worse across the globe. In Todays episode you’ll hear Moka’s story of wrongful conviction, her trans incarceration experience, and we’ll be discussing the systemic criminal justice issues that are plaguing our community.
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I was in jail last year and I saw a transman in the women’s jail… this needs to be spoken about more
Thank you for sharing!
This was a good episode for sure. I Think it's important to know what we're up against as trans people if we become incarcerated.
Hopefully more information like this can spark some change in the system
@@KatieScarlett93 Lmao. Ah, yes. Because false convictions don't happen and people don't goto jail while waiting for their trials. Should learn more about how screwed up the "justice" system is and how quick your rights get taken away because a cop or prosecutor decides you shouldn't have any.
Powerful episode. ❤ I'm genuinely infuriated at what happened to moka. Disappointed in how much injustice there is in the "justice system".
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One day we hope!! Thank you for listening
What angers me the most is that 90% of transphobia is invisible. It is invisible to cis people in the sense that it is hidden, it is felt only by the victim, and if the victim complains about it to a cis person, it will look like the trans is crazy one and not the aggressor. For cis people, this will seem like a small thing, a situation made out of nothing, while the victim will suffer from pain. And the aggressor themself will carefully hide their intentional transphobia from which they enjoys under the legal questions / common sense / hypersensitivity of the victim.
And in principle, a transphobic attitude sounds superior when pro-trans statements sound weak. And cis people are much more inclined to understand and agree with other cis people when trans people seem superfluous, incomprehensible, strange, disgusting to them all, even when cis people try to be understanding.
And when there are only 1% of trans people, imagine what it is like when only 1% of people can understand you ONLY in the aspect of your gender identity, what to say about other aspects...
just recently discovered this podcast and I'm loving it! I am curious if you have ever thought to do an episode on indigenous sexuality and gender? that would be amazing :)
It’s hard for me to say it’s a good or great episode, because it’s a hard episode and it ruined my mood, but I'm glad I saw it.
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Great episode!! Abolish prisons!!!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed
i liked the episode too but...why abolish prisons? can you elaborate
@@joce3553there’s no explanation. It’s just a meaningless slogan to signal their political alignment.
@@geraldbrooks8507 signalling their ignorance
wow. I had heard people like you existed, but I never believed it. You had to work hard to garner that kind of ignorance.
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Males are often victims of violence in prison. My brother was killed in prison. He probably would have been safer in a female prison too. We categorize these institutions by pertinent sex differences. You can’t identify your way out of your capacity to get a female pregnant or the 50% more upper body strength males have on average and propensity for violence.
EVERYONE DESERVES TO BE SAFE IN PRISON. The answer isn’t mixed sex prison- that’s BAD FOR FEMALES. I don’t like the idea of very feminine males being targeted in prison but they are. Our prison system is broken, violent, and run by gangs in some areas.
ruby you should walk into the ocean.
@@emmd1137 Why?
There need to be separate prison wings for trans prisoners. That way both transwomen and transmen are safe from men, and women are safe from transwomen. Everybody is better off.
separate but equal huh
@@emmd1137 I genuinely don't care if they are equal. You can give them all free mani-pedis and massages every day if you want. Human rights require that women be imprisoned separately from men. And apparently some men are afraid of other men, so think their safety relies on being housed separately from them. Women are not shields for vulnerable men.
My notes on this conversation
-Firstly yes trans identified males are massively overrepresented, particular for sexual offences. Claiming it's the lgbtq+ community gives a blanket impression whereby lesbians and bisexual women are treated as if they are as represented as males and as if they commit anywhere near as serious crimes. It sounds like you're trying to claim it's all due to prejudice instead of trans identifying males committing far more serious crimes than non-trans males for example. This downplays the clear male/female divide which is if anything more obvious in the lgbtq+ community.
-I feel like the use of "sex worker" normalizes a harmful practice integrally connected to trans women, in part due to male paraphilia. I wish the community would do more in terms of specialist centres just for these males but there seems to be zero appetite and even encouragement from the community. There was zero questioning of the reason Moka went into sex work. Claiming it was because of inability to find work makes very little sense and would be a highly unusual route. Frankly it was a clear lie. Clearly drugs were a part of the picture too.
-An article from the original conviction states Moka chose to go in the male estate. It would have been interesting if this was explored. It also mentioned multiple stab wounds which doesn't match Moka's version. Even if this was to comment on media coverage.
-Let's not forget Moka killed someone. I would have liked an exploration of how female prisoners would feel being housed with a big imposing male who had already ended someone's life. It's also interesting that that person was also part of the community. Moka's story of these events is bizarre and I can see why ppl wouldn't believe it. Laughing is a bit much.
-The "dead naming" seems to be that Moka didn't change names legally. I know you guys won't understand this but the "pronoun usage" also requires the other person to judge all other men and women based on gender stereotypes. Ppl who aren't sexist don't like that.
-"Trans female" is purposefully lying. We already know the community have an issue with the reality of sex.
-Why no exploration of how absolutely terrible it would be to put a trans identified female in the men's prison?
-You just came across as worshipping someone based on their identity marker. I got the impression that you'd have an entirely different approach were this person to have different identity markers. Extreme biases.
-Why does Moka still have a criminal record?
-You might want to mention that it used to be a human right for all female prisoners to have no male prisoners with them from the 1940s and ideally no male workers either. You could relate it to the Scottish prison case and how obvious it is that sex should divide prisons not gender which anyone can self-id into.
-Zero exploration of why the segregation occurs. "Barbie Kardashian" in Ireland would be an illustrative example.
-If you want examples of what happens when female prisoners are forced to share with males then again we have studies from Scotland. It showed while the women weren't transphobic there were clearly males there who made them uncomfortable, showed their penis and were motivated by having sex or an easier life to join the women's prison
-Inane superficial nothing questions
-If you have an alternative to prison it would be nice to explore that. Otherwise Moka only explained normal prison.
-Very superficial talk about hair and make up. Female prisoners don't have any of this. Males can't ever shave?
-Finally a bit of acknowledgement of the issue of men abusing the system. Via extreme homophobia equated it with extreme sex crimes that goes entirely unchecked. Clearly Moka has internalized homophobia. The idea that all the "fake trans" males are gay feels like Moka's own issue and is ludicrous.
-"Obviously men". This needs explaining. In what way is Moka different? Moka claims being trans is obvious which is stupid. Then a nonsense belief of born in the wrong body. Completely contradictory and hypocrital, Moka's idea is ludicrous.
-10x trans incarceration. Failing to mention it's mainly males. Moka's claims are absolutely ludicrous and explain almost nothing of this 10x rate. Mixed with male aggression. You guys literally just explained how men can identify into being trans with no difficulty and gain access to women. How can you not put the dots together?
-Moka mentioned sex crimes but you didn't cover the disproportionate level of these among trans identifying males.
-Nonsense about "colonialism" that had no connection whatsoever.
-A bit of grift.
-At absolutely no point were female prisoners, an incredibly vulnerable group, this is why the community doesn't understand the issues and many lesbians bisexual and gay men have already left.
Thank you for taking the time to break this down.
@@Canthavemybones Thanks. It's pleasing to see someone read my rant!
Next time you see my name associated with something, don't encourage yourself to listen. Why subject your time and mind and share your effort of communication to someone's opinion you are already disagree with in the nature of who and how the person exist? I would hate for you to stem any ideologies of mine which could lead to further mental health suffrage for you and your adopted sociological narrative. Stay safe and stay away.
Moka May Dawkins