The Most Distorted Verse? - RC Sproul
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- "The Most Distorted Verse?"
from the sermon: "The Son of Man Must Be Lifted Up"
given by Dr. R.C. Sproul
at St. Andrews in Sanford, FL
To listen to the entire sermon "The Son of Man Must Be Lifted Up"
log on to:
www.ligonier.org/learn/sermons...
To listen to the entire series on "The Gospel of John" by Dr. Sproul
log on to:
www.ligonier.org/learn/sermons...
Ligonier Ministries:
www.ligonier.org/
Background music: "Triune Praise Remix"
by Shai Linne
from "The Attributes of God: Instrumentals"
2011 Lamp Mode Recordings
mp3 download:
www.amazon.com/The-Attributes-....
To say the background music is annoying is greatest understatement ever made.
I'm LoL, but only in true sense of humor, not reality, He is Truth.
How does the glory of God, through Christ, comes into my life and forever change my worldview, but by the truth of His resurrection 🙏
Agreed.
I agree
Although anyone will have to agree it's very "catchy." In fact, when I heard it, I felt like I had to "catch" my lunch & run to bathroom - It's really that bad!!! R C loved great music; he would have been repulsed by that garbage.
God bless Dr. R.C. Sproul❤️May he rest in peace with the Lord Almighty. I love the wisdom and truth in this message.
Thanks for the video!
I could easily and clearly make out what RC Sproul was saying with the music playing…If you're upset about the music playing in the background click the link in his description to go to the full sermon, there you can search for this part of the sermon yourself if it's not too annoying. Or watch the whole thing.
It's just not good, doesn't go along
I’m taken back by this sermon. Something all should hear!
Thank you Lord Jesus, Thank you!!!!
Cheesy music distracting me from staying focused. I can see that for 3 years the request to remove it has been asked. The Lord will use this to His glory ..
This is the best short sermon on the Truth of Christ I have ever heard in my life. Period.
Haven't started into the video but just by going through the comments am already annoyed by the music.
Lol !!!
What a great sermon from a great man. Background music. Completely unnecessary and extremely annoying
Man R.C had a way w/ holy scripture, he spoke beautifully & understood the divine nature of Jesus Christ & had a heart for our great God
I enjoyed the way he incorporated the Vineyard parable.
What a simple yet profound way of teaching the gospel of Jesus Christ. God be praised!!!!!
Please, please, please turn the music off I cannot concentrate on what RC is saying!!!!
Please shut the music off
Sproul is always great, but injecting background music is distracting. Hearing it on a CZcams video is no different than if we were sitting in the congregation. We would consider it RUDE if someone did it at the moment when R.C. actually spoke, and, if he heard that music (even softly) while he was preaching this message, he would stop and ask you to turn if off.
Second, among well-meaning people who insert background music behind the preaching of God's word, there is a tacit assumption that the preaching of God's word is somehow enhanced by adding some kind of media. WRONG! Nothing--and I mean nothing--improves the proclamation of sacred scripture. Adding background music only subtracts from it. Turn it off, please.
Paul Collins
Paul, could we xchange eMails:
bob.gabuna@gmail.com
Paul Collins I agree. Music distracts.
Paul Collins .Sproul reminds me of the penguin character in Batman lol and Todd friel is the joker oh you calvanists are so funny lol
awake and alive You have such hate in your 💓. You can disagree without being a jerk. Read your Bible dude.
Mathew Bebout . so you're god you know what's in my heart do I need to repent oh I can't do that if im not predestined. By the way I read the bible more than all of you all the bible not just a few scriptures im learning to be sarcastic I copy the joker Todd friel. And John MacArthur and the penguin here Sproul seriously lol hahahaha
As a hip hop head. The music doesnt distract me lol im bopping my head back and forth while listening
Do you listen to Shai Linne?
Thank you Lord for Your Word faithfully proclaimed by one of Your saint, R C Sproul
RC was a legend. i’m a convert to particularism thanks in part to his teaching
I tried not to be one but I couldn’t resist itsbtruth
I read Sproul’s ‘Chosen by God’ back in ‘99…the scales fell from my eyes and I’ve never looked back…R C is definitely one of my favorite teachers…
Thank you Scott. I haven't heard this sermon from RC before. Heading over to Ligonier to listen to the full sermon.
I’m 8 years late but maybe folks just didn’t like sound doctrine over smooth beats in 2012, I enjoyed it. Thank you for your faithfulness to the Lord, RC Sproul.
I enjoyed it too! The beats didn't bother me at all. It didn't overpower what RC Sproul was saying.
@@jackm4603 That's what I'm saying!
Beautifully said🌹
Sorry Brother, for the distraction...To listen to the entire sermon "The Son of Man Must Be Lifted Up" you can log on to the Ligonier site listed above...
Scott Bacher. In love I say this, you miss the point. Why do you think the music adds to the message? If anything it is a detractor. Your answer is also unsatisfactory because if I can go to Ligonier to hear the entire message, why not just send a link?
Joseph Mellen relax. The music helped me. Maybe it didn't help you concentrate on the message. But it did others. And just because it's not your style of music, doesn't mean you need to be so aggressive. It's his video. He can put music in it if he wants. So you miss the point. The point is that you need to humble yourself.
@@hulk6164
sounds so much with that superiority.
your brothers in Christ has to take your recommendation when it comes down to being humble *
Scott- great video, thanks! :)
Praise God
Background 'music' is pure noise pollution!
What a twisted eisegesis of a passage that’s so easy to understand
RC got it right, and is enjoying eternity with his Lord and Savior. I wish God could have kept him here for just one more year. There is no one on the East Coast that preached the truth. charismatic chaos is church today. Sad, very sad
Awesome message! Truth right here.
I like the music and the message.
The music distracted me that I'm not actually gonna watcht the video. Lol.. oh well..
Amen
Nice bkgrd 🎶 music, thx for link. Really appreciate 💜 RC Sproul - thank you for your post. 🍃
I didn't know R.C was a M.C on the mic he killed that beat! 😂
The TopShottah LOLLL
He slayed it in the spirit 😂😂😂
LOL
I think we all ought to stop complaining about something as little as background music when we have fellow brothers and sisters in Christ around the world being martyred for the faith. Great message by RC! Thank you for posting
Praise the Lord God, He is doing a work of grace in me. Normally I am critical and judgemental, but I found NO PROBLEM with the background music.
I had great problem with music!
Amen and AMEIN! Excellent message!
Great message!
Would you please consider doing a version of this without background music? Or, can anyone point me to where I can find one? The music is terribly distracting.
I have the same problem with background music of any kind and now stop listening the minute I hear the music.
It’s so sad to read everyone completely lost sight of the message and allowed the music to take first place over the wonderful message! You know Satan has a smile on his face! As RC Sproul so beautifully reminds us...There is only one way to God the Father...only One!
There’s a reason that sermons are not accompanied by background music. It’s distracting
love the music
Awesome message
the music in the background is ANNOYING
Gems of Light It s the message that is important. What is more important. The message or the music.
Good Grief! RC Sproul is telling us something important and all the comments are about what? The background music? Oh my my.
It's a bit comical. It's like this suit-and-tie guy is talkin' up in da hood.
I like the music as, it is not overly dramatic or sappy. Sorry. To each their own in tat regard 🐦
He rarely has background music so, it is not like a stylized or pretentious ad or something that
is meant to tug at your heart...for me. 🐦
dope music and great message. im a hiphop fan so i pretty much didnt even realize it was playing in the backround haha
Stop lying
@@tommymcdonagh8566 ok
A very, needed message for those who hear with the heart. 11/2022
The verse includes "whosoever" believes!
RC thank you for breaking this down interms of our feeble understanding. You are so missed. Losing you is a devestating loss. There will never be another RC Sproul. I don't know why God has taken RC, Adrian Rogers, and Jm Kennedy, and has left us with Joel:(
i endured , as Sproul does have deep insites , the background music was detrimental.
thanks any way.
Wow ! Amazing !
Shout out to Shai Linne! All praise to the Trinity!
Why does this need the music at all??? It's distracting! Please redo this without it.
Good message!! But the music is very annoying!!!!
It is not a good message. Sproul is damning souls to hell. How dare this gremlin declare that Christ didn't die for the whole world.
It's a good message!! But the music is very annoying!!!!
Shame on you Raymond Reddington the Bible says
it's because God loves the world so much that he sent his son on order that all who BELIEVE would not perish. Shame on you!
According to Sproul God only saves those he forces to believe. So it really isn't whosoever is it? Shame on you!
It's a good message! Shame on you. Don't ignore the Gospel Message.
Gods grace thank you Lord
This is the understanding way Of God’s Grace of salvation
TURN THE BACKGROUND MUSIC OFF. IT IS DISTRACTING.
The Greek makes it clear: John 3:16 isn't saying God loved the world "so much," but that he loved the world "in this manner:" that he sent his son.
James Arnes Thank you.
Interesting.
Some sense at last...
The more important part the Greek makes clear is that he sent his Son for those that believe in Him, he did not send his Son for anyone else. Here is the verse translated correctly.
John 3:16 - HCSB
For God loved the world in this way: He gave His One and Only Son, so that everyone who believes in Him will not perish but have eternal life.
From the Futon
It makes a huge difference because it stops us thinking that God thinks the world is so lovable.
Not my favorite music track, but I can live with it. Thank you for the exceprt from this great sermon!
Excellent reflexion!
There's an amazing amount of free will in that detailed account.
Background "music" is distracting and irritating (something like the person in the pew in front of you in church who gives his or her significant other a back rub during the sermon)!
*it's "ok" need to turn the vol down abit more tho.
Haha the back rubbers
Calvinism has music?
that is why we need to praise Him, to worship Him above all
🙏
The Cross is the springboard for the resurrection. Christ cried from the Cross, “Tetelesti, it is finished”. If he had not completed the work he came to do he would not have been able to rise from the dead.
"And if I be lifted up, I will draw ALL men to myself"
R Wayne , with the capitalization of all in your comment I think you are using it for inclusiveness. Study the use of “all” in scripture. Sometimes it referred to an inclusive smaller circle within a larger circle. So some believe ALL here can refer to all who are chosen or all nations or all will be drawn for judgement for the blood will either save you or not. You do the study.
www.biblestudytools.com/blogs/founders-ministries-blog/does-all-ever-mean-all-in-scripture.html
go edit the word : all.
ynik shia , not edit. Study how it is used and. And a proper application.
i do and was on the same page with you. Your comment above it
@Domagoj Golubić Do some more study and you can be a heretic and willfully ignorant along with the rest of us. If the second use of all in the verse is everybody the all, the whole of humanity, will be saved.
www.biblestudytools.com/blogs/founders-ministries-blog/does-all-ever-mean-all-in-scripture.html
and
cprc.co.uk/articles/allmeansall/
Jesus- for God so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son that who so ever believes in him will not perish but have eternal life.
Sproul- all does not mean all, world does not mean world, every one does not mean every one, if your not reformed your a universalist. Also we’re not even sure Jesus said this.: all hail John Calvin
Amen!!
Love this video and the music was a great enhancement to the wonderful message! Please send more great videos like this!
Serious??
@@tommymcdonagh8566100% Serious as serious as a HEART ATTACK ARE YOU TRACKING!!
I've never heard anyone say this is a verse to proclaim universality doctrine,I think Dr sproul knows what is meant here,it's not hard to take God at His word,those who truly believe will have everlasting life:-)if a man only had that verse on a piece of paper ripped out of a bible it would still be enough to save him,the word didn't profit them cause their faith was not mixed with it the bible talks about(maybe not those exact words),was it the Philippians jailer that was told believe on the Lord Jesus and thou shalt be saved,that's all he was told outside that cell that day,question is was that enough to save him,of course it was,that man was accountable with that one verse concerning what he would do with the son of God himself,there was no deep theological conversing back n forth I'm sure,just the simple love of God in believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and thou shalt be saved:-),I feel the joy of the Holy Ghost in me as I say these very words amen glory be to God in who alone consists all things lol amen
Rocky
What R C is saying is that believing in the lord is a work of the holy spirit in you .
The philipian Jailer was being drawn by the holy spirit to ask and therefore he was goin to receive.
Some christians have taken this verse and tried to brow beat or bible bash anyone into confessing Jesus in a clinical black and white way .
Apart from the work of the holy spirit in there heart you cant convince people to utter this verse.
Christians have tried to and this is what R C was addressing.
Can you please remove the background music or lower down the volume. It's very distracting. Thank you!
Wonderful
165 dislikes. 165 signs & wonders self seekers.
Mark 8:12 NKJV
But He sighed deeply in His spirit, and said, "Why does this generation seek a sign? Assuredly, I say to you, no sign shall be given to this generation."
amen brotha
That background music killed it for me. Can't even finish the video. 🤯
Praise the Lord for this clip! Beautiful stuff!! May this bring more and more people to prayer and worship
Wow I have heard a little of his preaching in the last few years but didn't realize he was from right here in Sanford where I live.
a friend put a birthday gift on his neighbors doorstep.. but the neighbor refused to open it.. and stepped over it everyday until he died.. the gift was his.. but refused it..case close
Maybe it's just me but music did not fit this talk very well , of corse it could be me as I'm 71 lol
Well this track is also by Shai Linne, a strong voice in hip hip for the exposition of theology. I'm thinking the OP intended the listener to make that connection.
Take that lousy noise away.
Destructing music.its defocusing me from the message :(
Glory to our lord and saviour jesus Christ.
John 3:16-36 must be read together.
Did RC Sproul write that background "music"? Did he mix that "music" in? The message might be a thumb up. The "music" is a thumb down for me.
Chi-yin Pang no music present, at least not now..
I believe in God's provision for ALL people. God desires ALL to be saved.
Agreed ! ... The VICTORIOUS GOSPEL
You're missing a HUGE point! Scripture (Jesus Himself says this) clearly states that God gets what He wants (on earth as He does in Heaven) - no exceptions. If He wanted everyone to be saved, then [everyone] would be saved, and we know that won't happen because of Hell.
best Shai linne song hands down!!!!
Great background track! Lampmode.
Well, personally, I think that the most misunderstood verses are the ones in the Gospels which generally read, " . . this is my body." It is not "is", literally; it's symbolic. In fact, some translations render it with a dash: " . . this - my body.."
Besides, those at the Last Supper were all Jewish men, who would not drink literal blood. So, that, too, was symbolic. Read U. Zwingli's "18th Article" for reference.
Brilliant observation and precise explanation
only catholics misunderstand that.
No one thinks this is literally
Chris Reid In early Church history Xtians were accused of actually drinking blood and eating flesh by the Jews and the world. Did they truly believe that? IDK, but it took some traction.
Yeah, the music stinks. A distraction for sure
I don't why everyone is complaining about the background music. I liked it and I didn't find it to be distracting..maybe I was just able to focus better.
Sproul: We’d like to thank JC and the boys (the desciples) for providing the beat for today’s message.
Music in backround DUMB!
classicjukebox Personal preference my brother...some like it, some don't...
Scott Bacher The music is useless. Completely distracting from considering the deepest truths of the Word of God. Listening to music is one thing, hearing the ministry of the Word is another thing.
I keep expecting DJ RC to break into some lyrical madness.
The music appeals to those who God has gifted with musical abilities. For many it causes them to connect more fully with what is being said and to move with the Holy Spirit. I did not especially like this music. it was a little redundant but it didn't distract me. For folks who are hard of hearing the music ruins it for them. They can't hear the words at all. Maybe there should be one with music and one without but then we would not get to exercise patience with one another.
Helen Williamson I'm sorry, I have an ear fpr music. I listen a lot to music but this thing is not even music. It's some sounds put in repeat mode. It is annoying. And if anyone needs this kind of musical mantra to be connected to Holy Spirit then he or she better get saved.
Please remove that back ground music, it's irritating and distorts concentration to one of the most important biblical teachings in the Bible
AMEN
Common armature youtuber mistake is to add loud music in the background when everyone is there to hear the speech.
The bacground music is sooooo distracting. I just cant concentrate on what Dr.Sproul is trying to explain.
God so loved the World that he gave his only begotten Son (Jesus) that who so ever believeth in Him shall not perish but have everlasting Life. He that hath the son hath Life and he that hath not the Son of God hath not Life. Plain and simple not hard but some would like to make it complicated.
But Jesus says no one takes his life from him…he says he does it willingly
"Goodnight," he yelled. "Don't let the bed bugs bite."
drop the music....eh....I would like to hear the message here...
What about this verse
For this is good and acceptable in the sight of God our Saviour; Who will have all men to be saved, and to come unto the knowledge of the truth.
1 Timothy 2:3-4 KJV
Yes, He would have all men to be saved , He also said the road to Hell was wide and many will be on it.
Because of unbelief... That's the only difference between Heaven and Hell Is if you were saved or not saved
For God hath concluded them all in unbelief, that he might have mercy upon all.
Romans 11:32 KJV
bible.com/bible/1/rom.11.32.KJV
I quite like the funky groove backing track to the truth.
So many words, instead of taking the truth of the word of God, that means as many who receive the finished atoning work of Christ have salvation as a free gift through faith, we get a mockery of what Jesus did for repentant sinners. As many as received Him to them He gave the power to become the sons of God, even to those who believe in His name.
The music is distracting I had to turn it off I really don't like that It's unnecessary
How did you turn off the music and keep hear the voice track?
@@randycurtis1176 he didn't say he did.
@@randycurtis1176 he turned off the video it self.
@@tommymcdonagh8566 I misunderstood what he said with what you said he meant to say. I reread what Grant Nunmaker said, "the music is distracting I had to turn it off..." He said he turned off the music and he did not say he turned off the video. I can't read his mind to know what he intended to say but I DID want to know if there was some techie means to turn the BGM off and keep the original audio. We should all remember that punctuation saves lives. There's "Let's eat Grandma" or "Let' eat, Grandma."
@@tommymcdonagh8566 I guess I should ask you this, "How do you know he didn't turn off the added background music and leave the original audio?" I'm no techie so I'm thinking there is some way to do what he said he'd done.
Yes please no music in the background.
I love the analogy I heard of Jesus being the only way. It went like this, suppose I lived down a dead end road off the main roads and you wanted to come to see me. So I told you how to get to my house but the only way to get to my house was by following the exact directions I gave or you’d get lost and won’t be able to get there. Now if you decided not to follow my instructions of how to get to my house and just decided to go the way you wanted to go, not listening to my instructions you would as I had told you, not only NOT make it to my house but you would also be lost in where ever the alternate route sent you. This is what GOD gave us, a set of a specific set of instructions. He said that he gave us a savior and that he was the ONLY way to get to him, the GOD of the universe. If we choose to listen and go the way his instruction lead us, we’ll make it. If not then we will get lost in where ever that path takes us. We were lost already but he sent those who gave us his message of instruction on how to reach him. It’s up to us to accept the directions of the creator of all things or, choose our own path and never make it to him at all.
Amen
but it’s not our choice to save ourselves, it was God’s choice.
Music is great
i love the background music. helps to make focusing on his words easier because our senses are engaged.
cut out the music.
what's with the background music?
V18: “but those who do not believe are condemned already”.