{507} INRUSH / Input Surge Current Measurement Using DSO Digital Storage Oscilloscope

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  • čas přidán 26. 11. 2021
  • in this video i demonstrated how #INRUSH / #Surge Current #Measurement Using DSO Digital Storage Oscilloscope
    the inrush current or input surge current or switch-on surge is the maxima instantaneous input current drawn by an electrical device / component or group of components when first turned on. AC electric motors and transformers may draw several times their normal full-load current when first energized, for a few cycles of the input waveform. switch mode power supply SMPS / inverter ac boards, inverter welding machines and converters also have inrush currents much higher than their steady-state currents, due to the charging current of the input capacitance.
    while selection of over-current-protection devices such as fuses and circuit breakers is made more complicated when high inrush currents must be tolerated. The over-current protection must react quickly to overload or short-circuit faults but must not interrupt the circuit when the (usually harmless) inrush current flows. What Is Inrush Current. measuring inrush current using oscilloscope in smps or welding machine. it can be monitored
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  • @musarratalam3825
    @musarratalam3825 Před 2 lety +1

    Masha Allah
    Hamesha ki tarah achchi jankari diya hai

  • @BritishPakFamily
    @BritishPakFamily Před 2 lety +1

    big thumbs up 👍
    masha Allah very informative video
    thanks for sharing
    best wishes from uk 🇬🇧

  • @boyconstructiontv8662
    @boyconstructiontv8662 Před 2 lety +2

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    @BricoolinoSenyor Před 2 lety +2

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  • @Dr.QaisarAbbas99
    @Dr.QaisarAbbas99 Před 2 lety

    Nice job dear brother 👍 Stay blessed

  • @energychaser
    @energychaser Před rokem +1

    Superb tutorial as always thanks!

  • @muhammadishtiaq24
    @muhammadishtiaq24 Před 2 lety

    Excellent thanks for sharing this informative video

  • @leighstale
    @leighstale Před 2 lety

    Cool share 🙂

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    @meandbabajan76 Před 2 lety +1

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  • @t1d100
    @t1d100 Před 2 lety

    Excellent! Thank you!

  • @susantaatha6468
    @susantaatha6468 Před 2 lety

    We are also depending from you to give us very good informative information. Thank you sir

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    @kahlid-ataya Před 2 lety

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    @user-wu3rs5ec5f Před 2 lety

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    thank you for great information

  • @maliksiyal7357
    @maliksiyal7357 Před 2 lety

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  • @Versatiledani
    @Versatiledani Před 2 lety

    excellent work

  • @vlogdiaries4u
    @vlogdiaries4u Před 2 lety

    Wow masha Allah
    Wonderful and superb explanation 👏
    Keep up the good work

  • @tourwithtaste1514
    @tourwithtaste1514 Před 2 lety

    Ma sha Allah zabardast sharing Bro I love your videos keep it up 🌹🌹

  • @wegi9621
    @wegi9621 Před 2 lety

    Outstanding video Haseeb

  • @MuhammadBurakuddin
    @MuhammadBurakuddin Před 2 lety

    woderful information.very technical approch to measure input surge current.great work keep it up brother

  • @kuchpanktiyajindagiki
    @kuchpanktiyajindagiki Před 2 lety

    Informative practical tutorial brother. Happy weekend

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    @shabnamaayatvlogger Před 2 lety

    Awesom information

  • @mahfujasvloguk
    @mahfujasvloguk Před 2 lety +1

    Wow excellent tutorial thank you for sharing 👍

  • @garn6223
    @garn6223 Před 2 lety +1

    Thank you very much sir I learn a lot from you Now I fix Power supply and ad board for slots Machine some I can fix some I can not fix I am new to this I use your techni for troubleshooting keep it up sir 🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏

    • @HaseebElectronics
      @HaseebElectronics  Před 2 lety

      You are most welcome
      it is my pleasure that my efforts are helpful. stay blessed and i wish you huge success in this field

  • @daylifevlogs4846
    @daylifevlogs4846 Před 2 lety +1

    Masha allah amazing work Nice topic excellent channel thanks for sharing

  • @gauripartapshanker9197

    Vedeo is very informative, this type of knowledge can't be found nowhere. You teach us practically and theoretically in a simple language, by this electronics is a difficult subject you made this so easy. Now I can understand electronics very easily.Such type of electronics knowlege can't' found nowhere. Pls make detailed vedeo on transform less circuit design calculations of pf and poler capacitor. Because u can explain batter. Thank u so much. God give u every thing. You are doing nice work, maney people are earning from this work and u are making them expert in there job. Thanks again.

  • @HV77777
    @HV77777 Před 2 lety

    Good job 👌👌👌

  • @jagathkumarasinghe5187

    Thanks brother very useful

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    @AbdulMomenZargar60 Před 2 lety

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    @zainarabicteaching Před 2 lety

    Good information

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    @vongtaynhanaikptt6066 Před 2 lety

    the friend, excellent happy, blessings

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    @msbbadsha1456 Před 2 lety

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    @meandbabajan76 Před 2 lety +1

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  • @andyapple9
    @andyapple9 Před 2 lety +2

    Very nice video! Please make a video showing us how to create a delay for the NTC bypass relay.

  • @sudheerkumar5966
    @sudheerkumar5966 Před 2 lety

    Very good

  • @jorgetechofficial2368
    @jorgetechofficial2368 Před 2 lety

    Watching sir to your nice tutorial n👍🇵🇭

  • @mirzageeelectronic999
    @mirzageeelectronic999 Před 2 lety +1

    Excellent 👌

  • @yogeshposnak7147
    @yogeshposnak7147 Před 2 lety +1

    nicely explained Sir

  • @PotatoAndTomato-asif
    @PotatoAndTomato-asif Před 16 dny +1

    Thanks sir👍

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    @shamailavlogsuk5520 Před 2 lety +1

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    @ARA-HOUSE Před 2 lety

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  • @vijayakumarkumar9190
    @vijayakumarkumar9190 Před 2 lety

    Very good and useful information sir thanks for sharing this information to us

  • @vijaykumarjaintechelectric8723

    Very nice explanation

  • @wegi9621
    @wegi9621 Před 2 lety

    6:23 Discharge cappacitor - SIMPLY EPIC !!!

    • @HaseebElectronics
      @HaseebElectronics  Před 2 lety

      yes it is better than discharging with our 2 fingers and then having bandage for 2 weeks LOL
      personal safety and equipment safety must be our first priority. as the capacitor bank is much dangerous and it is silent killer,

    • @wegi9621
      @wegi9621 Před 2 lety

      @@HaseebElectronics I wonder that wouldbe a bulb 230V AC 75W good enought to discharge SMPS main cappacitor and a bit afraid it's not enought and it wouldbe burn. BUT don't know the soldering iron it's so good. Please take my congratulations and really appreciate your knowledge, experience and own creative skills.

  • @raoamarjeet5473
    @raoamarjeet5473 Před 2 lety +1

    Nice video Sir

  • @rks2271990
    @rks2271990 Před 2 lety

    Thankyou sir very well explained video sir g

  • @shinan_02
    @shinan_02 Před rokem

    Nicely explained, thanks for nice presentation.
    One small suggestion: You could have shown a simple circuit diagram on the paper to make it further easier.

  • @FishingNOutdoorFun
    @FishingNOutdoorFun Před 2 lety +2

    I have a similar power supply and the capacitor busted. Then changed it with same capacity but 1-2 hrs later it continuously burst. What can cause this?

  • @AbdulMomenZargar60
    @AbdulMomenZargar60 Před 2 lety

    Walikum Salaam Janab Bhai Sahib

  • @burhanuddinbhiwaniwala618

    well sir All of your video are very informative... even this video explains the proper fuction of PTC
    but your Video's title says How to measure current with DSO... BUT your video was about PTC....???

  • @PankajKumar-ug4zf
    @PankajKumar-ug4zf Před 2 lety

    Sir adab,inverter ac ka ek super video banao,jaruri

  • @user-pz6cx8zf2y
    @user-pz6cx8zf2y Před rokem +2

    The thermistors used for surge protection in smps input circuits are always of NTC type, not PTC. PTC thermistors, as an example, were used in series with the degaussing coil used in colour CRTs. The incandescent lamp you use in series with the psu under repair, as a second example, works in the same way a PTC thermistor works. For both cases, initially their resistance is small, allowing momentarily maximum current to pass (and degauss, or feed normal current to the circuit in the case of the lamp in series) and then, immediately, decrease the current by increasing their resistance, thus rejecting practically the load.
    NTC thermistors work exactly in the reverse way. They allow reduced initial current due to their high internal resistance when being cold and then, as soon as current is passing through them, they reduce their internal resistance, allowing the maximum current to pass (this resistance reduction being the practical effect of their negative coefficient, in contrast to the PTC category). Furthermore, in the case of the power handling thermistors, their resistance change depends on the temperature developed in their body, but this temperature has to do with the current passing through them, not with the environment temperature (which is the case for small thermistors which are used for temperature measurements or compensation circuits).
    It would be much better if you had registered the current waveform in the oscilloscope, rather than the voltage one, since you study here the inrush current effect. In other words, it would be more didactic for your readers if you had registered the current waveform, in form of voltage drop across the terminals of the thermistor, which would be much more realistic representation of current for your explanation. The voltage involvement causes more confusion to this analysis, not being as comprehensive as it should...Nice try anyway.

    • @HaseebElectronics
      @HaseebElectronics  Před rokem +1

      i am grateful for your detailed explanation. moreover your suggestion is valuable. i will do it surely
      please accept my best regards and special thanks

    • @HaseebElectronics
      @HaseebElectronics  Před rokem

      in low power supplies NTC is used for inrush protection
      but in inverter AC PCBs, Washing Machines, Welding machines, it uses PTC

    • @user-pz6cx8zf2y
      @user-pz6cx8zf2y Před rokem

      @@HaseebElectronics Without any intention of being myself rude, as regards power handling thermistors, I have never seen PTC types powering welding machines etc. Such a use would really make no sense, because we always in these cases need the "soft start" function, which means reduced current at start up (due to the high initial resistance of the thermistor and then transition to a low resistance state, which exactly is the effect of the negative temperature coefficient of the thermistor) allowing full current afterwards (by the thermistor itself reducing its internal resistance, because of the temperature developed within it). This function can be done only with NTC thermistors.
      The PTC thermistor, according to the voltage divider explanation given in the video, will not allow the current needed for the load, just because its small initial internal resistance will increase to a high value rapidly (reverse effect of the soft start). In other words: a) NTC thermistor: its resistance decreases by the temperature, thus the current through it increases (Ohm's law) and b) PTC thermistor: its resistance increases by the temperature, thus the current through it decreases...
      Just think the incandescent lamp use (PTC behaviour) in testing smps psus. When the filament is cold, it's resistance is very low. This is the reason we see the initial glow on a good power supply. Then it gets rapidly hot, reducing the current, and it doesn't glow any longer (which happens if the device under test represents a resistance lower than that of the filament, under the given circumstance, or has a dead short)...

  • @prakashsharma6186
    @prakashsharma6186 Před 2 lety +1

    👍

  • @pradeepmenaria2364
    @pradeepmenaria2364 Před 2 lety +1

    Sir would you like to make video on SMPS EMI/EMC with calculation.i am working in this field since more than 6 years but still not sure how to calculate it.

  • @electroniquepassion
    @electroniquepassion Před 2 lety

    👍👉🌹

  • @dantronics1682
    @dantronics1682 Před 2 lety

    A bathroom shaver socket makes a good low power isolating transformer for test equipments, I should have added UK bathroom shaver socket, I just found out in other countries they dont come with the isolating transformer

  • @dantronics1682
    @dantronics1682 Před 2 lety +1

    Since you are talking about inrush current I have a question for you, I have an AC unit where the initial switch-on current is 35 amps, it use a ptc for the start winding, my question is can I use an ntc in series with the start ptc to limit the inrush to maybe 20 amps? even though the inrush is for only about 0.5 second the electric meter still register it so I get charged about 2p each time the AC switch on

    • @koushiks_energy
      @koushiks_energy Před 2 lety

      use a ac soft starter or time delay unit for required rating (search online)
      as you deal with lots of power overa considerable time (yes 0.5 s is a big time while considering you have been charged 2p) also these tiny Thermistors are resistors at the end of the day and wont be suitable for such large units
      you may ask what about high power smps and still use it? yes but now people are upgradin them to relay based time delay units

  • @toddanonymous5295
    @toddanonymous5295 Před 2 lety

    Great video. Wouldn't you use an NTC type thermistor to limit the inrush current ?

    • @HaseebElectronics
      @HaseebElectronics  Před 2 lety

      yes thermistor must be used as current limiter. either it is NTC or PTC, (it will selected on device type and its usage

  • @fitriisnatulavinda2777
    @fitriisnatulavinda2777 Před 2 lety +1

    Maasyaa Allah tabarakallah
    Great tutorial sir, but I want to ask what type the oscilloscope and how about oscilloscope setting? I try to measure the inrush in battery output so I use shunt for that, but cannot displaying in oscilloscope well, I use the GDS-806S oscilloscope. Thankyou very much sir.

    • @HaseebElectronics
      @HaseebElectronics  Před 2 lety +1

      yes Instek GDS-806S is superb.
      for current measurement you have to set time /Div at high time ( 0.5 sec or 1 Sec) so that the sweet rate may slow and it will provide stay on the screen
      set volt/Div to your required range. but setting to higher range with 10x attenuation is good,
      when the one wave is captured, stop the DSO (RUN/STOP key)
      then you can measure / analyse the signal freely

    • @fitriisnatulavinda2777
      @fitriisnatulavinda2777 Před 2 lety

      @@HaseebElectronics thankyou very much sir.
      I already try using time/div like you say, but the signal cannot stay on the screen, i mean it so fast and lost before i push the stop button. If like that, is any something wrong from my setting on oscilloscope?

  • @SureshKumar-nk2ok
    @SureshKumar-nk2ok Před 2 lety

    sir please make video on simple 5 volts smps adapter and explain each block and voltage levels thank you

  • @seazilialiabond5740
    @seazilialiabond5740 Před 2 lety

    Sir u r great.love from heart.sir can you design a 1000 watt pure sinewave inverter crkt of h bridge combination without microcontroller....plz sir....i want to replace the microcontroller with SG3525 ic....

  • @user-sv4pg9mq2w
    @user-sv4pg9mq2w Před 2 lety

    A.o.A sir sir ma na uc3843 say smps bny ha ups ka charging wala transfermer laga
    Ma na trancfermer ma say tik tik ke awaz ati ha as ka bta day q ati ha

  • @fieryfirevivin
    @fieryfirevivin Před rokem +1

    Did inrush current happen in Los and regulators ?

    • @HaseebElectronics
      @HaseebElectronics  Před rokem

      no, inrush protection is for protection of the circuit
      it doesn't involve in regulation or any loss

  • @mrizwan4756
    @mrizwan4756 Před 2 lety

    Assalam o Alaikum
    I want to run an alternator with 12v dc motor
    Which motor will capable for this?

  • @actechtelugu3063
    @actechtelugu3063 Před 2 lety

    Good morning sir
    Please make video on non inverter ac Pcb working please sir

  • @jerowin7776
    @jerowin7776 Před 2 lety

    Sir can you Explain IGBT Based Stabilizer Board....

  • @vipulkumar5620
    @vipulkumar5620 Před rokem +1

    Can i Use Single isolation transformer to connect Both Test circuit and OSCILLOSCOPE

    • @HaseebElectronics
      @HaseebElectronics  Před rokem +1

      yes we can
      just we need to remove earthing safety ground from secondary side of the transformer

    • @vipulkumar5620
      @vipulkumar5620 Před rokem +1

      @Haseeb Electronics sir , i have 1 isolation transformer and There r two socket outlet of isolation transformer...
      And Can i Connect Dso and Test circuit toh both socket oulet

    • @HaseebElectronics
      @HaseebElectronics  Před rokem

      yes brother you can use it

  • @zakiausa
    @zakiausa Před 2 lety

    Salam brother how are you and telling detail How to fix 🇺🇲🙋‍♀️

  • @electronicrepairservice2020

    Very good explanation but I'm a bit confused. I was always taught never to float your scope and use an isolation transformer for the DUT.

    • @HaseebElectronics
      @HaseebElectronics  Před 2 lety +1

      in both cases it is same while using DSO
      if we use CRO, in that case we must use isolate the Unit Under Test (UUT) and TMDE should be grounded
      but while using un-isolated UUT, it is best to isolate the DSO,
      it have no issue, as we are applying high signal and low signal at test jack (BNC) which have high inout impedance, so its internal circuit will check the potential difference
      i always isolate my DSO only. and my other bench power supply is also isolated

    • @electronicrepairservice2020
      @electronicrepairservice2020 Před 2 lety

      @@HaseebElectronics Thank you for that explanation. Always enjoy seeing videos of scope used in real world applications. There are very few videos that actually show how to use a scope to test pcb's or test IC's in both low voltage area and primary area but a handful of videos on how not to blow up your scope, which I am always concerned about when I use it. Most videos "How to use a scope" only show just the basic set up and not real world applications.

    • @dantronics1682
      @dantronics1682 Před 2 lety

      I float analogue scope when working on live side switcher, only if there is no one around to touch anything while I'm working on it, dso usually are plastic case with IP rating so there isnt any metal exposed

  • @SureshKumar-nk2ok
    @SureshKumar-nk2ok Před 2 lety

    sir please make video on isolation transformer and can we make it by connecting 2 transformer back to back like 230v 12v =====12v 230v ac

  • @thankyou7741
    @thankyou7741 Před 2 lety

    14.7 ohms or ampare?

    • @HaseebElectronics
      @HaseebElectronics  Před 2 lety +1

      these are amperes, sorry for miss-pronunciation
      (with age factor sometimes, we mix voltage with current, and current with ohms. because a part of life is gone this Ohm's Triangle, so we feel dizzy with these words LOL 😂😂😂😂 }

  • @user-sv4pg9mq2w
    @user-sv4pg9mq2w Před 2 lety

    Aur ak as ke output 70 votl arhi ha phir tik tik ni karta jb volt kam karta ho to phir tik tik ke awaz ati ha

  • @user-sv4pg9mq2w
    @user-sv4pg9mq2w Před 2 lety

    Ferquncy ma na scope say chek 65khz thi

  • @shefqetkaralliu6816
    @shefqetkaralliu6816 Před 2 lety +1

    👍