Planting where a Stump Was
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- čas přidán 2. 01. 2018
- I don't do a lot of planting videos but it is an important subject. In this video, I need to plant in the same locations, where we removed trees.
Not an easy task. Do it wrong, and the trees won't thrive.
It's always gratifying to see a job done right! Thanks, Blair.
Great info Blair. Thanks for sharing your knowledge as always.
This is exactly what happened to a very, very expensive replacement tree in my front yard. The nursery where I bought the tree from planted it, but had to remove some of the stump that was still there. They were grinding it when I left my home. When I came back, the new tree was planted and everything was cleaned up. Little did I know that they just mixed some topsoil with what was left from grinding the stump. The new tree was beautiful that first year, and I followed the book on its care. I even made a checklist to make sure nothing went wrong because of the amount of money I had invested. The new tree died 1-1/2 years later. I was heartbroken. I had the city forester come to find out what went wrong. After a thorough inspection, he had found wood chips down where the new tree was planted, and I had my explanation. To this day, nearly 2 decades later, I cannot drive by that nursery without shaking my head, and anyone who asks for recommendations, I skip over this nursery. I won't recommend them. They did not stand by their work when I told them what the city forester had told me.
Tree planting videos are never boring.
Not an arborist, not in the tree service business, just a guy who loves trees, planting them, and seeing them cared for properly.
Been binge watching your videos and learning so much.
Thanks!
1rewd1 you are my target audience. I like the professionals but I gear my talks to the people who really just love trees! Thanks for your support.
I really enjoy these types of videos, as a hobbyist I find them much more relevant.
Really glad I watched this video. I have been wanting to plant a tree in place of a large silver maple stump after we get it removed and now I am reconsidering. Thanks for the great information, Blair.
Oh what I would give to have you come to our home in Colorado and help grind the stumps and prepare our soil for new trees. My husband and I bought our dream home just a few years ago. A 1920’s rancher in a historic neighborhood with the most beautiful mature trees, albeit much taller than truly necessary. But they were at least 60 years old and well over 100 feet tall. A piece of history that added so much warmth and character to our house. Within the first year of living in our home that we loved and waited so long for, we received several comments from visitors who noticed a fungus growing on the tree closest to our home. Upon closer inspection we also noticed the second tree in front of it had a brown mush which was slowly coming out from the base of the tree. An inspection from an arborist revealed that both were diseased and due to the deterioration showing on the stumps, were a threat to our house if a strong enough gust of wind came through and broke the already weakened stump. I was gutted to know that we would only be able to enjoy our beautiful trees for a short time after that. We received a quote for removal, but I wasn’t emotionally prepared and put off scheduling the tree removal. We put it off for nearly a year and up until last week we got to enjoy our trees for a little while longer. The electrical company was coming through our neighborhood doing routine limb trimming to prevent damage to power lines. They noticed the same issue and knocked on my door. Because the trees posed such a threat to a major line of theirs and to our home, they offered to cut them down for free. It was an offer I could not refuse but I definitely cried when I gave them permission to go forth with the job. I wasn’t ready to let my trees go. Now we are stuck with two enormous stumps in our front lawn and a completely bare view from our window. I didn’t realize how upset I would become to have those trees gone. Now I am stuck trying to find the right person to come and help remove the remaining stump and prepare the soil for a new tree to grow and thrive with our home. It has been a struggle trying to find someone not only available but knowledgeable in proper soil preparation for new trees. If you are ever in the area around southern Colorado, I would absolutely love it if you would reach out so we may hire you to help us plant new trees for our home. Thank you for sharing this video.
A bit out of my area. I have a daughter who lives in Aurora (near Denver). I’m sure you can find a local with a stump grinder. Important to speed up wood decomposition so add manure
I find it very bizarre when people wholly dismiss Sycamores as messy/ugly trees. My in-laws have a massive 300yo sycamore on their farm. Its trunk diameter is over 7 feet. It is gigantic and spectacular - a true sight to behold. They are beautiful trees when in the right habitat. Sycamores are riverbank trees. Here in the Mid-Atlantic they plant them all over the place as street trees, and on new developments. I suspect for the same reason they did in the video: They grow fast and improve the appearance of the block.
Seriously though Sycamores are not for suburban landscaping. It would be similar to wanting a household pet, but instead of getting a cat or dog, getting a horse. Then complaining about horses because of all the mess they leave behind. I mean what do you expect?
Your videos are great! Your passion and love for your craft really comes through in each one of them.
Thanks, would love to see your giant Sycamore/Plane tree
Once again, great, pertinent subject matter! Loving it!
Had to chuckle when I saw the cable and lighting boxes every time I see master plans and green space ordinances were they have you planting trees where they don't fit I just shake my head. Another favorite of mine is when they plant them still in there cages or just slash the bag.
😫😫😫😫! (Especially when the balls are wrapped with a WIRE nest around them! And the wire gets wrapped around your stumpgrinder!😫😫)
Hey Blair, I have one for you, speaking of planting trees. In 1970 within a period of two months I planted over 60,000 trees !
Thanks for sharing and take care. 👍 👍
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Ken Gamble forestry planting?
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No, I was running a crew planting pecan trees for an orchard ! They're all gone now, took them out because of not enough water !
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Dang man, just realized when you posted that, you must be like myself and not sleep much !
I like the smooth trunks & limbs of the Crepe Myrtle and the different flower colors ; sometimes even having two colors from the same tree.
marbleman52 it is an over planted tree in our area but it’s still one of my favorites.
Hey Blair I have another newbie question so I planted my giant sequoia this last July which wasn’t the best season I know but I didn’t have a problem watering and nurturing it every day lol but I’ll admit I just kind of tilled up the ground and put the tree in the ground and it was route bound I was really worried about damaging the delicate feeder roots.Is this tree doomed or does it have a chance of having a long natural normal growth and development lifespan. It seems to look OK right now but I’m just worried about the future that it might not grow like it should from being route bound
Wow! How did you grind those out without hitting any utilities?!?
Great video thank you!!
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Can I ask you a question? We had a large, silver maple cut down after the derecho here in Iowa a couple years ago. I have the opportunity to plant a tree from our highschoolers and they are going to do it with the help of a professional company that will show them how to do it. The place where my silver maple is has been free of a tree for 2 1/2 years. The stump was ground down but like I said that place has been empty for 2 1/2 years. Is it OK to plant that new tree there?? It has become depressed and I am going to fill in the depression with topsoil and then they will be able to plant that tree? Just need some advice. Thank you so much!
Blair, in my experience planting too high is no problem for the tree. Especially in situations like this where the soil might sink a bit when the roots decompose and the soil settles. The roots will find their way out into the soil anyway. Planting too deep however is a death sentence for the tree.
This was extremely helpful!! I had 2 dead pine trees removed from my front yard and would love to plant something over the uneven grounding left behind. Not directly over the old stumps, but in between. What is the best way to clear the roots enough so that the new tree/shrub will thrive? Is there a smaller type grinder that non-arborists can use?
Many rental yards have them
Interesting and informative. I suspect the original landscaper or contractor got a deal on those sycamores
Great explanation, Blair.
Why did the prior people choose Sycamores???? The nursery must have been all out of Giant Sequoias! :-) haha, some people
Patrick Wagz the developers make the decisions before the townhouses are sold. Believe it or not, these are selling for 800k. Sick twisted greedy society is killing our children’s future.
wow I'd love to have one that's more than a perennial it's too cold here. the roots live but the tree part dies back. thanks Blair
With the fires in California, does the state replant the forests?
Had a birch tree die from an infestation and then had another company come out to grind the stump, but they didn’t grind it down enough... cant plant in the spot due to the wood. Do you have any suggestions as to increase decomposition of the tree stump or recommend any type of plant to replace the barren spot? Its been 3-4 yrs now
Joi McKinney pay for a deeper grind
thx..... learned a lot
LOVE planting trees for myself, but HATE planting for others.....the inability to absolutely guarantee their success is very stressful for me, despite loving the actual process...I don't like for my advise on which species to plant to be subject to misgivings or reproach.... I know it's a weakness in ME, but, since planting is a deep and dear activity for me, I try to keep it just for myself, as I won't be second guessing myself, Lol.
Samuel Luria I don’t like these jobs much either. If the landscapers did it, they would have tried to squeeze them in on top of the stumps.they knew we would do it right.
So as long as you remove the wood chips after grinding and add good soil a new tree can be planted where a old tree once was?
Yes, you can use the chips as a top mulch
I've not been able to have stumps ground out but increasingly want to. Meantime what has worked for me is planting a tree as close to the stump as I can. Have to dodge big roots. But new trees have always done great in that mellow soil. Soon they obscure the stump, which slowly rots away, like those big roots.
Blair, this is very helpful and the only thing I've found on this topic other than "don't do it". I really want to replace an end of life dogwood with a crepe myrtle but for several reasons in the same spot. Its also next to a masonry landscape wall. I know, I know, trust me, the composition just works. Access for stump removal is going to be tricky. Can you provide more detail on your process. For example I've never seen an "Alpine" before. That looks promising. Any help is appreciated.
How big is the dogwood? Can you dig it out?
@@arboristBlairGlenn Thanks for the reply. Its about 11" diameter. I'm tempted to sawzall it out based on CZcams videos. My understanding is the resistance to replanting in same spot is based on soil nutrition concern if stump is ground and leaves a lot of sawdust and wood chip.
Thank you!
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When I bought my house in Florida, I had a 60ft Sycamore about 15 ft from my backdoor. I had that thing cut down before Hurricane season. It's the nastiest tree. Drops leaves for 1/2 the year, sheds bark for the other half. Glad it's gone.
One developer/landscapers mistake is profit for you is one way to look at it. Thanks for the video.
Is methane production or temporary unavailability of nitrogen from the decomposition of woody material (sawdust) in the soil also a concern to the health of the new tree when replanting in ground-out stump holes?
ELMT03 likely, I have not seen such a study. It would be interesting to test that.
Thanks for posting the video it was quite informative.
I had about 16 x 40 ft tall conifers in the front of my house. They were 80 percent dead and i was advised to remove them. So i hired a tree surgeon to remove the trees and grind the stumps. The job was completed in 2 sessions and now what i have is a large area full of dirt and wood chip mixed. In order for me to plant new 5 ft tall conifers what should i do? I understood after watching videos that the ground wood will suck away all the Nitrogen and the new trees will be damaged. any advise will be appreciated. thank you from Surrey, United Kingdom
My wife is a Brit and I have visited many times. Love England. Best thing you could do for replanting in this area is to first dig down to see if the stumps were fully ground out. You can add a lot of manure and turn that pile into a compost heap and plant in a year or so. Or, you can move the chip pile and bring in new good soil. Or, you can plant in the area and hope it works out but not advised.
@@arboristBlairGlenn Thanks for your reply. I shall remove the pile and replace it with topsoil mixed with manure and then plant. I shall update you of the results. Once again thank you.!!
@@arboristBlairGlenn Dear Blair, I have tody hired an excavator and dug 1 meter deep trench. Removed saw dust and wood chip by 90%. will now add manure and a layer of fresh topsoil before planting the young conifers. would share the video with you if had an email address.
god help you with that job bet your glad it's over! those are the first standard or single trunk crape myrtles I've seen COOL!
Matt Lloyd very common here in California. They are often used as street trees. I’ve seen them 50 feet tall with trunks over 12 inches diameter
well said blair, I had to pause n think about how many trees , I have planted myself , going back just under 20 years. a little over 4,000 I was able to look at old records oddly enough . as for what Ive done hundreds of times . people often wanted a tree rt where the dead or removed tree was . as a young arborist . I just removed the woody mess of soil due to image . it looked terrible . now 20 years later my gut feeling has paid off , wahoo .. who knew i was doing the rt thing all along . thanks for sharing Joe Rapanut WE1777C
Hello, removed a large Chinese Tallo Tree and we want to plant an Autumn Blaze in the same whole. I had the stump grinder take it down approx a foot maybe a little more… And I am removing the wood chip/soil best I can and replacing it with new soil…. Is this going to work out okay?
Just remember, you can’t plant in raw wood chips. They need to compost into soil. If you must do it soon, get as much of the wood chips out as you can. Good luck.
I'm curious why you didn't sub out the stump grinding? The right machine could grind those stumps in minutes.
FluFFyNuGGetS2 A) didn’t know how big the stumps were until I found them.
B) lots of utilities underground.
C) job was to plant the trees, stumps were extra.
Also, the Alpine is fantastic for planting holes. If those stumps were not there, the holes would have been done in five minutes. Didn’t expect the root barriers.
can you burn the sawdust soil mixture to create pot ash for fertilising?
Yes
Over here, sycamores are not indigenous, and they grow like weeds, with no wildlife in them. Some councils and developers insist on planting them and related species seemingly everywhere. A sycamore grows up to 12 feet by their third year, so they 'look good' very quickly, but soon become a nuisance. The tap roots go down as far as the height of the tree, and radial roots go further. That causes problems for any structure or service on or below ground. I’d rather see native species being planted; we'd see a few more bird species in our towns and cities! Thanks Blair.
seems the root barrier there was to keep the plant from growing into a massive tree, and not causing havoc to the concrete as you mentioned...was probably going to be fine if you didn't touch it.
A few words on root ball prep would be good here...maybe an addendum?
I put sawdust from my woodshop around the base of a tree for several years. the pecan tree was about 60 years old. It died and a friend of mine told me that's what killed the tree. Is this possible?
BIG JOE 245 if you just put it on top of the soil , then no. Planting in raw sawdust is wrong but as a top mulch, it’s good.
Dude, you need a better stump grinder, the one your using is made for bush stumps. With the proper machine removing the entire stump and loosening the surrounding earth is good new root penetration. Not only that, with the proper machine there is MUCH more soil mixed in with the wood chips from the stump, because with the proper machine you can grind completely through the entire stump. Vermeer makes machines and cutting systems that will even shred the root barrier out w/EASE. By the way, have you ever looked in a bag of potting soil? read the ingredients..
Dude, you need to try the Alpine before you knock it. I sub out my bigger stumps but I’m not afraid to tackle 24” stumps. I have owned many big stump grinders but don’t want one now.
@@arboristBlairGlenn Dude, no doubt the Alpine is a handy little grinder, especially for hard to get to stumps. However, the proper machine would have made your job WAY easier, and beneficial for the new plantings. Using the right tool isn't always cheap, it doesn't fit in everyone's budgets, but the end result can suffer, and make your muscles ache more, LOL.
Sycamore trees are so messy. I wish I never planted one here. I planted it 22 yrs ago and it is huge.
Why is it not possible to contain trees with a massive bucket - essentially making it a huge bonsai?
Bonsais aren’t just planted and left to fend for them selves, they are meticulously pruned, watered, and have their pots changed almost yearly. When they change pots a Bonsais roots are ‘pruned’ then put back with new soil. If you dig up the tree yearly to prune it’s roots, and do so with out killing the tree, then it will be a big Bonsai
Those are some weird balconies.
agun17. Owned units in Mountain View. Sell for 700 to 800 K. Cost of housing in our area is insanity
At least people will get decent trees now if they resell.
Nightmare @10:30. 😬
Exactly what I am looking for..they put sycamore in front of my yard 😒 why in the world would they do that. I am replacing my sycamore
My pleasure
Boring? You are kidding Blair.
I was told not to plant a tree where a tree is removed!
Best not to but sometimes we need to replant in the same spot. So, grind it deep, haul away the wood chips, add fresh soil, and keep your fingers crossed! Of yeah, WATER THE TREE😊
Try running this video at 1.25 speed...
Root barriers just a bunch of polyethylene where it should not be. Yeah get that plastic out of there and get it recycled. All this plastic going to the wrong places!
Elffirr Design I took the kids to the Monterey Bay Aquarium yesterday. They have a very informative exhibit on plastic in our ocean. Frightening to see the world being destroyed in my lifetime.
BORING???? I could have watched another 49m 6s
ThatOneWeirdChannel thanks, hope you enjoy my other videos as well