incredible video Man !!! Very Well Done ! Fleet guard All the Way for Me !!! 1) More Holes = Better Flow = Less Restriction to Oil Flow. 2) Media Looked Better quality. Just Never Been a Fan of Wix.
I live about an hour from the Wix plant in Gastonia so the filter applications that I know are made there are the ones I try to use. I’m going to support made in the USA as much as I can. We’ve run the Wix/Napa 1971 oil filter on 12.7 Detroits for millions of miles.
Fleetguard manufactures the MOPAR filter for the Dodge Cummins diesel engine so the grey MOPAR oil filter is identical to the Fleetguard. Both of these filters have great construction and I would have no preference to install either filter on my Dodge Cummins. I would buy based upon price point, although as mentioned by @SinCitySinner - Fleetguard would get the overall edge - especially because of the two extra baseplate holes and more media allowing even more flow. Fleetguard also manufactures for the same application the Fleetguard Stratopore filter which is the enhanced glass media filter which is recommended for Synthetic oils use. It would be extra cool if you compared all three side by side.
Excellent video Whip. I use Fleetguard LF16035 oil filters for my 6.7 Cummins diesel truck. It's the stratapore version of the 3972. It has 100% efficiency at 30 microns, making it my favorite filter for Cummins engines. Also has wire screen backing, and I have had excellent analysis reports on my oil using it. Fleetguard for the win!!
Thanks, Cody These hold a lot of oil. Do you prefill yours when doing an oil change? If not I would think the dipstick would be off some until the oil gets pumped around. Thanks!
@Whip City Wrencher Sometimes I prefill if I'm using oil containers without a foil seal, like shell rotella t6. There has been known cases of people prefilling large filters like these and getting flakes of foil seal in the filter. This goes into the engine unfiltered and can plug things up, causing catastrophic engine failure.
Both look good. So nice and generous of one of your viewers to send this to you. If I had to pick one, Fleetguard seems to be pretty good. Thanks Pete! Merri :)
A diesel engine makes soot. Wider pleats are better for a diesel application. The Wix representative explained this to me when I worked in parts. Then I became a service manager at a truck repair facility, we used Wix 95% of the time. I use Wix on all of my personal vehicles and would never use anything else!
Thanks, another great video. Installed many of the fleetguard and Wix 51607 before in heavy machinery. If my memory serves me right this setup is also for engine made by Cummins for Dodge PU. Well done and thank you
The difference in normal price between the 2 filters is around 25% but the filtering area has a 7% difference. Your choice but the Wix is a slightly better value and the NAPAGOLD version can be bought for as low as $6.65 increasing its value.
Both large diesel filters appear well made and up to the task. While the Wix may have less media area it has a better efficiency rating and is assembled/made in the USA! 👍So if the price equal or very close I favor the Wix here. Otherwise, I'd likely buy on price. As for compression spring type, coil type needed here because of the large, long and heavy elements in these diesel filters. Thanks for the vid.
We've used both of these and always run filtermags on everyrhing. Strangely enough, Fram makes the Ultra for the 6.7 Cummins and just recently offered the Ultra/Titanium for Duramaxes.
. The reason they don't have any bypass internally is because normally in some applications that I always had. There's a second filter that you put on that was for bypass. Which a lot of the newer diesel engines don't do anymore because of the new oil specifications. All in all, I still wish they used two filters instead of one. It all goes back to previous comments I made about fleet guard being owned by an engine maker. I appreciate you showing some more of the heavy duty type filters. Those still aren't as big as some of the ones I normally use, but they're in the same series. Thanks for sharing this I appreciate it
As GT mentioned, I would have thought it was because they have a block bypass thus not requiring filter bypass. Also as mentioned, many GM vehicles use block bypass too.
For those who say the coil spring in oil filters is dead, here are two more examples where that isn't true. No stamped leaf retainer springs here. Interesting comparison of some giant filters.
The reason a coil compression spring is specifically used for these two filters is because they are exceptionally large diesel filters. As such the added compression pressure provided by the coil type is needed to hold their large and heavy filter elements firmly in place. For the average vehicle applications, that is not the case. In the latter cases, stamped flat spring function perfectly fine. No idea who would have said filters will coil spring "dead", but obviously they would have no idea about filter construction type and filter function. In short, they are not knowledgeable. WCW previously posted a much smaller FG label diesel filter made by M&H Purolator, it uses a stamped spring.
@@faxmen09 A recent commenter has repeatedly chucked out comments that the coil spring is "outdated" and a "dinosaur" and "distorts the can(n)ister". He said he read it on the Fram web site. I keep pointing out all of the filters reviewed here that use the coil spring.
@@jeffkortsch8276 Well you know what they say, "ignorance is bliss." As we've discussed before, if Fram site says that, most likely promotional seeing as that's type spring they use. No doubt stamped type less costly to make.
@@faxmen09 I don't have anything against the stamped leaf retainer spring - it definitely has its place to lower the cost of the filter and it (generally) does take less space in the can so there can be more of the filter media.
Pretty cool you did diesel filter. 2020+ GM L5P Duramax new recommended oil filter is a PF63 it’s much smaller and seems wimpy compared to the old PF26. That would be a great test. They claim it has longer pleats to help with cold start ups.
Cummins parts on a Ford, seems right!!! FYI, I have 10 Phord trucks, mostly diesels. Buncha Dodges, mostly diesels Chebbies GMC Few Jeeps 2 Internationals A Toyota And a BMW MOPAR man at heart though.
Difficult one... Wix better micron rating 20 microns vs Fleetguard 30 microns. Important consideration. Everything else I'd give to Fleetguard. Which would ultimately work better based on micron rating I'd say Wix. No ADBV's was interesting and no pressure relief valves either. I'd go with Wix. 👍
I say the fleetgaurd is the better of the two ! Both are good filters especially when it comes to fleet maintenance ! It more or less depends on cost also ! Buying in bulk i could get the wix for about $8 ! and we go 6,000 mile. OCI ! no problem !
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Fleetguard ✅
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incredible video Man !!! Very Well Done ! Fleet guard All the Way for Me !!!
1) More Holes = Better Flow = Less Restriction to Oil Flow.
2) Media Looked Better quality.
Just Never Been a Fan of Wix.
Thank You👍
I live about an hour from the Wix plant in Gastonia so the filter applications that I know are made there are the ones I try to use. I’m going to support made in the USA as much as I can. We’ve run the Wix/Napa 1971 oil filter on 12.7 Detroits for millions of miles.
Fleetguard manufactures the MOPAR filter for the Dodge Cummins diesel engine so the grey MOPAR oil filter is identical to the Fleetguard. Both of these filters have great construction and I would have no preference to install either filter on my Dodge Cummins. I would buy based upon price point, although as mentioned by @SinCitySinner - Fleetguard would get the overall edge - especially because of the two extra baseplate holes and more media allowing even more flow. Fleetguard also manufactures for the same application the Fleetguard Stratopore filter which is the enhanced glass media filter which is recommended for Synthetic oils use. It would be extra cool if you compared all three side by side.
Excellent video Whip. I use Fleetguard LF16035 oil filters for my 6.7 Cummins diesel truck. It's the stratapore version of the 3972. It has 100% efficiency at 30 microns, making it my favorite filter for Cummins engines. Also has wire screen backing, and I have had excellent analysis reports on my oil using it. Fleetguard for the win!!
Thanks, Cody
These hold a lot of oil. Do you prefill yours when doing an oil change?
If not I would think the dipstick would be off some until the oil gets pumped around. Thanks!
@Whip City Wrencher Sometimes I prefill if I'm using oil containers without a foil seal, like shell rotella t6. There has been known cases of people prefilling large filters like these and getting flakes of foil seal in the filter. This goes into the engine unfiltered and can plug things up, causing catastrophic engine failure.
@@Antiliblife187 Thanks, Cody!👍
i'm Going to Pre-Fill Through a coffee filter from now on.
Thank you for your videos!
You're Welcome!👍
I don't have a diesel but if I had to pick I would choose the fleet guard.
Both look good. So nice and generous of one of your viewers to send this to you. If I had to pick one, Fleetguard seems to be pretty good. Thanks Pete! Merri :)
Hi Merri,
Thanks! 😊
Other then oem replacement or amsoil Wix is always my choice to go with. Wix great products and if I can’t get a oe replacement or amsoil
A diesel engine makes soot. Wider pleats are better for a diesel application. The Wix representative explained this to me when I worked in parts. Then I became a service manager at a truck repair facility, we used Wix 95% of the time. I use Wix on all of my personal vehicles and would never use anything else!
Thanks for Sharing!👍
Great job Pete
Thanks, Dwayne.
Both are good filters for diesel engines, I use both ,but probably use the fleetguard over the WIX ,they both look well constructed
I'm normally a big Wix fan, but for this application I'd use the Fleetguard.
Thanks, another great video.
Installed many of the fleetguard and Wix 51607 before in heavy machinery. If my memory serves me right this setup is also for engine made by Cummins for Dodge PU.
Well done and thank you
You're Welcome, Jason.
The difference in normal price between the 2 filters is around 25% but the filtering area has a 7% difference.
Your choice but the Wix is a slightly better value and the NAPAGOLD version can be bought for as low as $6.65 increasing its value.
Hi Stan.
Thanks for your feedback.
Great video
Thank You!👍
Both large diesel filters appear well made and up to the task. While the Wix may have less media area it has a better efficiency rating and is assembled/made in the USA! 👍So if the price equal or very close I favor the Wix here. Otherwise, I'd likely buy on price. As for compression spring type, coil type needed here because of the large, long and heavy elements in these diesel filters. Thanks for the vid.
We've used both of these and always run filtermags on everyrhing. Strangely enough, Fram makes the Ultra for the 6.7 Cummins and just recently offered the Ultra/Titanium for Duramaxes.
You're Welcome faxmen09.
Thanks for your feedback.
I guess I Fleet Guard wins this one. I prefer Napa Platinum. As long as they change the oil regularly and use Mobil 1
The Gold filters better.
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It's not like comparing a Fram to wix. Fleet guard edges out the wix
. The reason they don't have any bypass internally is because normally in some applications that I always had. There's a second filter that you put on that was for bypass. Which a lot of the newer diesel engines don't do anymore because of the new oil specifications. All in all, I still wish they used two filters instead of one. It all goes back to previous comments I made about fleet guard being owned by an engine maker. I appreciate you showing some more of the heavy duty type filters. Those still aren't as big as some of the ones I normally use, but they're in the same series. Thanks for sharing this I appreciate it
The 6.7 Cummins probably has an internal bypass like a lot of GM's do.
As GT mentioned, I would have thought it was because they have a block bypass thus not requiring filter bypass. Also as mentioned, many GM vehicles use block bypass too.
You're Welcome, AJ.
Thanks for Sharing!👍
For those who say the coil spring in oil filters is dead, here are two more examples where that isn't true. No stamped leaf retainer springs here.
Interesting comparison of some giant filters.
The reason a coil compression spring is specifically used for these two filters is because they are exceptionally large diesel filters. As such the added compression pressure provided by the coil type is needed to hold their large and heavy filter elements firmly in place. For the average vehicle applications, that is not the case. In the latter cases, stamped flat spring function perfectly fine. No idea who would have said filters will coil spring "dead", but obviously they would have no idea about filter construction type and filter function. In short, they are not knowledgeable. WCW previously posted a much smaller FG label diesel filter made by M&H Purolator, it uses a stamped spring.
@@faxmen09 A recent commenter has repeatedly chucked out comments that the coil spring is "outdated" and a "dinosaur" and "distorts the can(n)ister". He said he read it on the Fram web site. I keep pointing out all of the filters reviewed here that use the coil spring.
@@jeffkortsch8276 Well you know what they say, "ignorance is bliss." As we've discussed before, if Fram site says that, most likely promotional seeing as that's type spring they use. No doubt stamped type less costly to make.
@@faxmen09 I don't have anything against the stamped leaf retainer spring - it definitely has its place to lower the cost of the filter and it (generally) does take less space in the can so there can be more of the filter media.
Pretty cool you did diesel filter. 2020+ GM L5P Duramax new recommended oil filter is a PF63 it’s much smaller and seems wimpy compared to the old PF26. That would be a great test. They claim it has longer pleats to help with cold start ups.
Thanks,
Here's a PF63 I opened about a year ago. czcams.com/video/LOqQmhygZNM/video.html&ab_channel=WhipCityWrencher
Fleetguard!
Great video looks like 2 heavy duty filters. Both are built well but the Fleetguard seems to be extra heavy duty.
Thank You, mimelio!
How many day's ofter diesel filters replace
The wicks is a great filter but I like the fleet guard. I use fleet guards and Baldwins exclusively in my old F350 and they never let me down.
Hi Jim.
Thanks for sharing.
Cummins parts on a Ford, seems right!!!
FYI, I have 10 Phord trucks, mostly diesels.
Buncha Dodges, mostly diesels
Chebbies
GMC
Few Jeeps
2 Internationals
A Toyota
And a BMW
MOPAR man at heart though.
Difficult one...
Wix better micron rating 20 microns vs Fleetguard 30 microns. Important consideration.
Everything else I'd give to Fleetguard.
Which would ultimately work better based on micron rating I'd say Wix.
No ADBV's was interesting and no pressure relief valves either.
I'd go with Wix.
👍
ADBV isn't needed because these install baseplate up - so no issue with them draining oik while engine is non running.
@3:00 they both look like hot water heaters when cut open,😁 those are huge
🤣Hi Mark,
I know they are huge, and probably hold a quart and 1/2 oil each.
they are pretty similar filters, but I think that the Fleetguard has the edge, I choose Fleetguard.
Hi, bud
Yes, they are.
Fleetguard is owned by Cummins.
I say the fleetgaurd is the better of the two ! Both are good filters especially when it comes to fleet maintenance ! It more or less depends on cost also ! Buying in bulk i could get the wix for about $8 ! and we go 6,000 mile. OCI ! no problem !
Six is made in Mexico. Better thank China of course. Not sure where Fleetgaurd is manufactured?