The Eddie vs Thor Face-Off... Looking at the Accusations.
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Honestly, seeing how Eddie and Thor react to the outcome will be more interesting than the fight itself!
Very true
Neither will be able to stomach a loss
Behave.. this fight will be *electric*
If Thor wins, we’ll never hear the end of Eddie’s excuses, toxicity, and alleged obsession.
If Eddie wins, he’ll just bring it up often, while Thor moves on with his life.
If it’s a draw or ended early, then both sides will blame the other. I just hope that neither ends up permanently injured.
Thor will lose on points for double dipping.
I love how fair Loz is. He tells the truth without bias and isn’t scared to call out either with regards to their behaviour. - That is what both Eddie and Thor are lacking in the people they surround themselves with.
THIS is the content I’m here for. 🏆 👏🏼
Absolutely
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Balanced and fair commentary - Love Liz and Loz!!! We should be so lucky to have the two of you commentating on more than just Strongman/Woman events. It is clear that you both have an integrity and honesty to how you see the world.
Totally agree. Both brilliant.
According to some he is a monster. But then again to some Arnold is comparable to Hitler so.....
@Loz one small nitpick; Eddie was referring to his win being slandered, not the lack of kudos lol.
I think it's fair to compare being punched in the face to having your greatest professional accomplishment slandered on a global stage.
@@kschaub62 " But then again to some Arnold is comparable to Hitler so....." What kind of bullshit is this again? because both are from austria? How racist is that please? omg
HOW DID EDDIE HURT DON IDREES? WHY DID IT HAPPEN?
I am actually sick and tired of how toxic this has turned. Like many have said I hope after this is over they bury their beef and move on to better things. They can be great ambassadors in retirement for the sport and i feel like this fight has taken that away from them.
It's for views.
Big name fights always do this with the barking at each other.
It's marketing.
@@quantumhelix8668 I completely understand that. To me it just got old. Especially how long we had to wait for the fight.
@@quantumhelix8668 Doesn't make it any less distasteful.
@@nonachyourbusiness1164 Agreed.
@@r2dadizubz actually Eddie is acting like a female. Now, to call Thor masculinity toxic is a sign of ignorance hes literally just responding to this dude lying in his face trying to talk over him outside of his mother tongue. Eddie is literally just going "YOURE A BITCH"
THor: "NO YOUR A BITCH ", EDDIE: "CALM DOWN THOR"😁 ... passive aggressive female tactics go over the head of simps,beta males etc and make them sympathize with victim cuz he portraying himself as a victim they totally are controlled by that
That comment Eddie made comparing not being told 'well done' to someone being raped just made me lose so much respect for him. What a daft thing to say. Him and Thor are both strong, dedicated and amazing athletes, the fight could go either way.
But I'm not gonna be disappointed if Thor knocks him on his arse.
It was heat of the moment, they are gonna say controversial things that we won't agree with just don't get your panties up in a bunch
@@tumadre5000 Heat of the moment? Gtfo here lol
The fact he made such a nonsensical comparison, says something about how his mind works.
The gap between what happend in 2017 and actually being raped is so incredibly huge. It must have somehow crossed his mind before this moment, I mean for him to even come up with such a thing.
@@tumadre5000 this is arguably a worse thing to say than what thor said in 2017. That kind of got eddies panties up and he still keeps going on about it 5years later
@@tumadre5000 My panties are very much well secured and comfy between my thighs, don't worry. Heat of the moment or not, it was a daft and disgusting comment to make.
Oh common, don’t you ever talk without thinking? I do it all the time. Do you process everything before it comes out of your mouth?
I agree that WSM is the biggest in terms of reach, but..and there is a but here, if the producers - by next year's wsm - don't get their heads in the game and starts live-streaming the events like for example the Arnolds and the WUS does..then I think WSM will be shrinking like a prune. In this day and age competitions like this should be live and not be broadcast on TV months later. People primarily wants to see sports live, not in a re-run. Bad for WSM and not least bad for the sport.
Exactly especially the. you follow the winners on CZcams and get all the bts a week or 2 later and by this point you already know the winner
The world should be able to watch it live.
If Arnolds and Rogue Invitational can do it; WSM can do it.
Would like to see Rogue do WSM.
Wsm fell off imo. Whole org is shady. Rogues does better events.
It doesn’t even get shown here in Australia. I’ve always got to wait for someone to rip it to youtube
@@beardedbjorn5520 i think its same here in Sweden
I like that you addressed these and unlike the fight, I actually wanted to see your commentary here.
I whole heartedly believe Thor was the most naturally gifted strongman ever. When I first saw him, it was just like Brian Shaw in 2008, you knew you had something special and he became one of my favorites right away. Eddie, honestly, I didn't like as a competitor but he was undeniably strong. In static events he could dig deeper than what most men have any right to and that is undeniable.
I thought 2017 was disgusting, and it did cheapen the win because it marred the year with poor sportsmanship which Thor followed up challenging Brian's rep in 2018 which cheapened his own win we had all been waiting for as spectators as we knew it was coming. As a fan I don't like watching either 2017 or 2018 and that's all on Thor and his stark change in attitude. He was really fun to watch for years and seemed like a very cool guy, and then he just wasn't.
I understand obsession, but the way he acted was pitiful. He double dipped way back in 2014 on the same event, with Colin Bryce calling it, and he did the same thing but he accepted it.
To make it even more absurd, if Colin gave him all 15 lifts, Eddie visibly still had at least one or two in the tank. He would have won the event anyway.
Like Nathan Jones back in 1996, even if he had not went the way of "tactics" on the squat, he wouldn't have beaten Magnus Ver Magnusson. He had more in the tank, and then the overhead press he beat him outright. It was the same kind of situation except it was the final and not a heat. It was also Hafthor Bjornsson a 6 time podium finisher and the guy who came half a point from winning in Wingate in 2014. Not Nathan Jones who was in the heats for two years before disappearing from strongman.
Eddie though here, he's let his emotions get the best of him, and it's really sad and it's not healthy.
He got what he always dreamed of winning in 2017, but honestly I don't' think he would have won in years past or since. There wasn't a loading race, carry and drag, husafell stone etc.
I mean, imagine the sack loading race from 2010. With his heart and cardio the way it was I could see something like that absolutely ending his contention for the podium.
But he won and he is letting this ruin it for him and that's terrible. But that's also on him, and the lack of self control is also on him.
I don't think this fight is good for either them as people, for the sport of strongmen or for their legacy as athletes.
Anyway, sorry about the book. I just absolutely hate this circus fight bullshit and I look forward to it being over.
I wholeheartedly agree with you man. I have absolutely no interest in any of this anymore. For 3 years every comment section about Strongman turn toxic as fuck with the whole Eddie vs Thor fanboy BS.
I've always thought that about 2017, regardless of whether or not Thor double-dipped, Eddie was up later and knew how many reps he needed, and as the strongest overhead presser at the time by a good distance, I have no doubt he could have hit an extra rep if he needed it
You're way too invested in strongmen dude 🤣
@@alex_wolf Probably lol
I know the hate is genuine but I hope they shake hands and move on after this, agree with everything you’ve said, this has ruined both there reputations as strongmen IMHO
Eddie comment on rape has to be one of the most ridiculous things I have ever heard... what was he even thinking
It was an extreme comparison.
@@Divinemakyr there is no comparison though, is there?
@@GODAIM-ANDY there is, technically
@@Divinemakyr yeah I'm sure everyone out there that has been raped are thinking "Eddie must know how I feel". Technically you are not the sharpest knife in the drawer mate.
@@GODAIM-ANDY technically but not really I meant. Don't insult I was nice
Not only was the deadlift live streamed streamed, it was live on ESPN!
Yeah the unofficial deadlift
@@blaise7922 It reas everywhere "Official", Eddie and his fanbase can't take It. No one questions Tom's Atlas Stones récord, or Novikov's dumbell though
@@antoniocenteno1483 I think Mr. nice guy Brian Shaw among others said that he didn’t think any of those live streamed things should count because they weren’t in competition with other people having a chance to lift it etc. It’s not just Eddie that didn’t like that situation
So when are we going to adress that Bryce backed and produced a documentary on Eddie his strongman career back in 2015. In 2016 Eddie pulled his WR at the World Deadlift Championships that is part of Giant Live, owned by Bryce. Jerry Pritchet went forward to speak out how the whole show was centered and catered towards Eddie Hall, leaving other athletes to rot. Bryce was there when Eddie his book got published in 2017 and pulled a 18 inch deadlift WR in a bookshop. In the WSM 2017 finals the events were changed - by Bryce - and again favouring Eddie's static strength. Bryce is both the owner AND headreferee of WSM. Considering his previous business endeavours doesn't that mean he has a massive conflict of interest? Eddie claims that he and Bryce only got into business together in 2019 even though evidence suggests otherwise. Yeah this stuff is shady as hell and I don't think it's farfetched to argue that Hall had help from behind the scenes to make the stars align in the last year he could probably compete considering his health. Bryce wants his fellow countryman, friend and businesspartner to win and abused his power to make it so. Sports is sadly tainted by politics. I don't see how this is any different. Thor swallowed some of his pride in 2017, accepting his 2nd place and removing allegations from his own platforms. Now he is no longer shackled hence he brought it up in their faceoff. It's time we bring back this discussion. Not about Eddie vs Thor and their fight. About corruption and a lack of professionalism in strongman.
I fully agree, while all this sounds a bit far fetched on paper to unknowing people, what is the alternative? WSM making their events as usual, taking 3 random dynamic, 2 rsndom static events and atlas stones. Then they randomly out of thousands of possibilities land on eddies 3 best static and 2 best dynamic events without realizing they added a static event too much and that these events might favor one particular athlete? believing that there was no plan in helping eddie win requires to believe in extreme luck AND extreme incompetence and little knowledge of the competitors from the event organizers
@@allylilith5605 Indeed. However, how can we prove this properly? Bryce and Hall would rather admit masterminding the Cuban Missle Crisis.. Most of the athletes are too in their depth to stand up against Bryce. Even the guys that are already retired and are using the platforms he owns to stay relevant. Either need a whistleblower, multiple athletes do their stories or a indepth inquiry done by neutral journalists and lawmen.
@@ducksauce2696 the scottish guy who runs WUS (I forget his name - Mike maybe?) put up a sus instagram post a while ago about corruption in strength sports... I wonder what he knows..
If Loz addresses the issues in an objective and realistic manner would he suffer consequences such as limited access to events and athletes? Hard for folks in the sport to be 100% honest about all the issues favoring Hall and not get black balled.
you won wsm because ı was retıred ? eddıe :D wtf thor beat you in 2013-2014-2015-2017 europes 2013-2014-2015-2016 wsm eddıe only beats him 2017 with colins help(changing events) ,, 1 wsm 3 arnold 1 wus 5 europes 2nd in 2014-2016-2017 wsm 3rd in 2012-2013-2015-2019 besides big z and brian he is the most competitive strongman in the history. how tf is that eddie hall compares himself and thor ?
No thoughts on Eddie saying magnussen was bullied into officiating the 501 deadlift? I thought that was one of the biggest talking points off that face off
Loz said he needs to talk to Magnus first
Does Magnus being bullied (not saying he was) invalidate the lift? I don't really see the argument being made?
@@possiblepilotdeviation5791 100% agree with you. Does it matter if a judge (ANY judge) doesn't want to be there at the moment? If the athlete lifts the weight and all the judge needs to do is say "down" or approve the lift, it doesn't matter whatsoever >_>
@@possiblepilotdeviation5791 If anything, while not okay, it does the opposite. He'd be extra certain to make sure things were done by the books.
How could they bully him into doing it? Is MVM even a judge for WUS? He is the head judge of WSM, he is judging for ASC and Giants Live, why would he give a single f*** of what WUS says or does. Don't think it is true.
Eddie is now "smearing" his own win more than Thor ever did
I read this response yesterday on a different video by a guy named DutchDread (sorry buddy for copying your comment, but you made a valid point).
No, Eddie smeared his win.
Here's the problem, Thor was unsportsmanlike in 2017, but he had good reason, or at the very least it was understandable.
Now if that's where it stayed, I'd say it would be reasonable for Eddie to personally wish for an apology.
But it didn't stay there, Eddie blew it up way out of proportion, never shutting up about it, just putting more and more baggage on the whole ordeal, and then he wants Thor to take responsibility for the entire thing.
This is like Thor dropping a lit cigarette, and then Eddie throwing kindling on it and carefully feeding the fire until the forest catches fire, and then blaming it all on Thor.
At some point it's no longer reasonable to demand an apology and Eddie crossed that line YEARS ago.
Had Eddie not fueled the fire then the only thing this would have been was an athlete in the heat of the moment being upset because he lost a competition. Which is quite understandable since the line-up of that year seemed especially suited to Eddie in comparison to other years, which wouldn't be that bad if Eddie wasn't part owner of said competition, and friends with the head judge of said competition,
Now does that means something ontowards happened? No, but it's bad practice, and when you do it you shouldn't be surprised when people become suspicious of special treatment.
So what could Eddie have done? He could have been understanding, talk to Thor, show that he's a good sportsman, and thereby perhaps earn an apology. But what did he actually do? He came out with videos smearing Thor, making it seem as though Thor didn't shake Eddies hand, took ZERO responsibility for creating a situation that might make athletes feel iffy, and then went on to be a petty douchebag for 5 years straight. He also took videos that should be between Thor and the judges, and spread them as far and wide as possible, and then blamed Thor for smearing his victory.
Thor didn't smear Eddies victory, Eddie did that, and Thor shouldn't apologize for it, if anything Eddie should at this point.
@@ducksauce2696 By making such a big deal about it, Eddie has made me question the win. Previously I would have just thought "yeah he easily won the viking press", but since he mentions it every 5 mins, I looked into it more. 2017 was the only year they had both squat + deadlift (every other year = squat OR deadlift). In addition no throw events. Also Eddie's documentary made it clear how Colin was making it up as he was going along, regarding the events (e.g 6 tyre flips, or 8?). Very unprofessional. The documentary also showed Colin was aware of Eddie's health issues, and was with him in the hospitals. So now Im questioning whether they rigged the events to favor Eddie, on his "last shot" before his body gave out. If there was no documentary 5 years later I never would have questioned anything.
Also, the atlas stone podiums were all the same short height. It's very odd when you look into it
@@ducksauce2696 this should be posted on every comment section about this topic, so that peapole might open their eyes on this issue
Strongman is a community sport where everyone looks out for and supports each other, these two have soured the reputation of the sport recently. I really hope this toxic rivalry can end and these two can become the positive ambassadors of the sport that they are capable of being.
Edit: didn’t realise eddie compared it to rape, that’s absolutely disgusting. Tbh that makes me want Thor to knock him out now.
Eddie acting like an asshole? Next you'll claim water is wet and Monday comes before Tuesday
Eddie is just a piece of work tbh
You sound like you voted for sleepy Joe lol
WSM 2017 was the zenith of Eddie's career. It was everything he worked for. He promised his dying nan he would win, and he went and fucking won it. He dedicated that victory to his nan. Thor childishly threw that victory into question and in the process, hugely disrespected Eddie's nan. That's why Eddie made that comparison. This Saturday will be Eddie's new zenith. He will annihilate Thor and he will have a new title to dedicate to his grandmother.
If Thor is the god of thunder, Eddie will be:
World's strongest man, THE GODSLAYER, the man with a vorpal fist,
Eddie "The Beast" Hall
What about thor swearing on his dead daughter at the event wsm 2017
eddie is showing his true personality more and more
In a bad way
@@roelof1536 he just hates Thor that much because he felt he undermined one of his greatest achievements
Eddie has lies after lies after lies
The most infuriating thing is the example he’s setting for his son. I loved Eddie at the start of this, but had to unfollow because of his narcissistic personality
Eddie just comes over as vile, I really hope he’s knocked out otherwise he’ll be even more insufferable
0:50 - "The events are the events." So I do agree with this of course, but isn't Thor's issue that some events were changed or altered at the last minute in ways the suited Eddie's strengths? If I remember correctly, even Brian Shaw was sceptical about this, but it was never properly addressed. I might be wrong though and I'm no expert, so I'm just asking out of curiosity!
On another note, I will say that Eddie's points about the deadlift are ridiculous. His lift didn't follow competition regulations at all either. In fact, he had even more "freedom"; he chose his own rest times and he dictated the weight jumps at the expense of the other competitors. Brian Shaw had to drop out early because of that. That's not a competition, it's an Eddie Hall event where he is catered to to help him achieve the lift. Thor, with his predetermined 20 minutes breaks between lifts and predetermined weight jumps, actually followed stricter conditions than Eddie. However, both lifts were ultimately done with calibrated plates in front of a qualified judge, so both are official regardless of who we're more of a fan of.
I believe they went from a medley to a static event.
@@jayclean5653 I heard that, and I also heard of other alterations like the stone podiums being shortened to benefit Eddie. It's very suspicious that the events were changed to be more static (WSM 2017 was more static than usual) when that's one of Eddie's strengths... AND the man making those changes is Eddie's friend and business partner. If true, it's extremely suspicious behaviour that needs addressing.
Actually they weren't
@@lbds954 Also don't forget that Colin was one of the judges, and he specifically judged Thor's Viking Press event.
Now I still think there were other issues with the Viking Press, I don't believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that they could've changed the heights on it, meaning that Thor was more prone to having to double deep because he's taller than Eddie. So take that + Colin judging for Thor + him stating at a later point that HE KNOWS an event like that could be a problem for Thor in terms of technique... It all just adds up to be a bit suspicious.
I believe they took the chain drag out of the events, which Thor is really good at. So that pissed him off.
I think Eddie has a puncher's chance in this fight. I do worry that if he gets knocked out or just loses that he will have some excuse instead of accepting defeat.
he is already making excuses right now. Did you catch his :"boxing is one thing, street fighting is another"? and "If I lose, I will shake your hand"
even eddie himself knows he's about to get embarassed on saturday
@@allylilith5605 and bringing up excuses like his chest infection, and afterwards saying "it's no excuse". I mean, why'd you bring it up, then?
@@Joncka He was all like "I had a chest infection but here I am" trying to paint it as him being so mighty or something.
Win or lose, I can't help thinking that Eddie will be insufferable after this fight.
@@davidclegg7560
He’s already insufferable and has been so since 2017 or probably way before then.
I don’t expect that to change.
I would love to see him getting beaten and humbled though.
I've lost all my respect for Eddie if there was any to be lost... the CRINGE is too powerful. I would even be glad to say it to him in his face with my 60 kilos.
Careful, dude might just go ahead and stab ya.
@jtven3 I would say it to his face. I'm not afraid of having to dodge a fat ass.
@jtven3 especially if he takes his "drunk mayweather stance" to hit me lol.
That IFL face off video edited out that comment from Eddie comparing Thor not saying "well done" when shaking Eddie's hand in 2017 to rape (they only left in Eddie's comparison to a punch in the face). Eddie has really lost his mind over something no worse than poor sportsmanship by Thor. The added insult to Eddie's ego was Thor actually deadlifting 501 KG. Eddie really did believe that no one else would deadlift 500 or more in his lifetime, and he's said as much.
The fact that just days after it was published all over the news how Thor was "cheated" and "robbed" of the title + the poor sportsmanship is what makes Eddie tick. Thor was happy with his viking lift until Eddie beat him, then he started to bitch to the judges, threatening to leave the competition if he didnt get the point for it etc.
I used to love Thor, but because of his prominent poor sportsmanship i have lost respect for him, the year after he was demanding Shaw losing a point in an event they tied.
As for Eddie, i love the dude but the last couple of days have been a bit "eh".
As for the Deadlift thing, i think Eddie is the one who is going to be remembered. The first man to officially deadlift half a ton. compare to first man to fly (wright brothers) or neil armstrong on the moon before the rest of the crew, first to break the barrier is remembered.
@@moofie1302 I agree Thor was an ass, and a poor sportsman, but the level of seemingly genuine hatred that Eddie has over it is only hurting him psychologically. Thor's poor sportsmanship can't diminish Eddie's accomplishments, nothing can. But what's more important than your accomplishments is your own mental health and character.
@@lewisruffalo2221 I agree, the hatred for thor seems to have only increased
Eddie is the only man to do 500 in a competition. It is far harder to do in a competition due to a lot of factors. How long between lifts, what weight to come in with ect. Luke Stoltman and Iron Bibby have done the log press at home and in competition it is harder to emulate what you do at home, travel ect also being a factor. I believe we could have a record every week if people counted Home gym in front of a WSM judge. I don`t like the toxic build up because this is usually a sport where they cheer each other on and respect each others sacrifice to get there.
@@kevinhunt3325 No one but Thor and Eddie have deadlifted 500 in competition or in their own gym. Even Eddie didn't do 500 in his own gym in training. Thor's record may not be official, but he did it live under a lot of pressure. I think it's ridiculous for Eddie to now claim Thor didn't actually lift 501. It's just not a competition record, but it's a feat of strength that only 2 men on the planet have done thus far.
Eddie saying that WSM is the only title that matters is hilarious. Have him say that to Big Z and that his 8 Arnold Classic wins mean nothing lmao.
Eddies head is a little big for someone who won worlds once. Not to discredit his achievement, but at the same time he’ll never go down as one of the greatest vs say a Brian Shaw or a big Z. Yea he was the first to deadlift 500kg cool, but not worthy of a goat status. It also sounded bad when he said in 2019 you lost to Licis you’re terrible. I was like wow. What’s that mean to Martin licis 😆. I’m sure that’s not what he meant, but man. His biggest gripe with Thor is he didn’t congratulate him in 2017. He makes a lot of bs clams like Thor didn’t shake his hand when it’s on camera. No he didn’t extend his hand first, but he accepted the handshake regardless. Imagine getting that mad over someone not shaking your hand, and it effects you that much to where you’re still bothered by it 5 years later. I am an Eddie hall fan. The guy is great, and I like more things than I dislike about him, but I do think he’s being a child about the 2017 worlds, and his ego is way out of check.
@@Machoke. I think he's more mad that Thor said Eddie cheated and was in cohoots with the refs to rog the competition in Eddie's favor
I thunk that's his main issue not the handshake
By that logic, him finishing 1st once, and 3rd once, surely makes him one of the worst winners
What exactly does the Arnolds mean though? other than strength athletes and fans like us who cares about it?. The public and the world care about the worlds strongest man, the clue is in the title
@@adamjjohnsen you’re not wrong. I do feel his whole gripe with it although I understand it at the same time feel his way of going about it is a little childish. Not saying Thor is innocent in the matter by any means though.
Eddie has really shown his true colours recently. Taking the piss out of Thor's bells palsy, making a rape joke during the live face off and now spitting on someone working in security. Just getting a little pathetic
Rape joke? Fuck, people really have a deluded perception of reality.
It wasn't a joke, he was making a point. How can people be so ignorant?
@@SgtTeddybear66 a joke would have been better...
@@SgtTeddybear66 if you think that to make a point you need to compare someone not congratulating you with raping you then you are not a piece of shit but a full bag of shit. Feeling like that for years because of childish hypersensitivity issues and comparing it with a motherfucking RAPE is so fucking vicious that makes me want to kill him. My gf was a rape victim and I cannot believe that far cow full of shit could make a comment like that. I honestly hate him for this horrible comment.
The point about the rape was you don’t forget something like that and he doesn’t forget how Thor smeared his victory! That’s it! No joke, no point!
@@musashi8012 don’t compare something that ruins a persons life version something that dents a man-child’s fragile ego
I wish someone would ask Eddie on video why he's using a thumbnail of him, on the 2017 WSM podium, offering his hand to Thor...but 2 seconds before Thor gives him the handshake. He's intentionally using a deceptive thumbnail to get people to think Thor didn't shake his hand. He did. Also, in some previous video of that time, he put the video of him offering his hand to Brian Shaw, who shook it, then offering it to Thor and then the video cuts out before we see Thor shake it, which he did. When, in reality, Eddie shook Thor's hand FIRST and then shook Brian's. If Eddie is so sure of his moral highground and that he is 'right', why edit video in a intentionally deceptive manner that truthfully just makes him a liar? While I want Thor to knock him the f!@# out, I think Eddie is a more aggressive fighter and will probably win. I also agree that Thor was wrong about being cheated, but that was his emotions talking and he took down the video he made. Does Eddie really not understand that? Eddie has REMAINED at least that butthurt emotional for years now where Thor let it go a long time ago.
I agree with your overall sentiment, but to be fair, Eddie did not make that video. He simply reposted it on his channel. He of course was more than happy to fuel the deception with the recent thumbnail though.
@@buythedip5354 if you repost it and endorse it....there's really no difference to me than if he would have made it himself. I actually just went back to his channel and watched the Q&A where he speaks to it. He literally says "Do I think it's representative of what happened in the video? Yes I do." He says its representative of Thor being a bad sportsman...and his way of proving that is to share/repost on his own channel a fake video of Thor, and by so doing being a worse sportsman?
Eddie stated 2 or 3 times in their interview that Thor shook his hand. He isn't inplying anything other than Thor was butthurt and didn't want to.
@@brahtrumpwonbigly7309 and I said nothing about the interview. I'm talking about the thumbnail he's used so many times that is a deceptive lie. Just shows the kind of person he is.
@S. Well, did Thor take down the video that got Eddie so butthurt? Yes. He should take that as Thor's apology since he obviously, after his emotions calmed down, realized what he said in the video was wrong and decided that isn't how he actually felt. And that analogy just doesn't work in this situation, since Eddie has publicly stated he wants to kill him in the ring. So, what would that be in your analogy? "Hey Thor, apologize for breaking my jaw but then I want to kill you in the ring." If you go after someone for an apology all while threatening, planning, and training to do worse to them...don't expect an apology.
Eddie Hall: "You only won WSM because I retired"
Also Eddie Hall; Never placed higher than Thor in any show they both entered except for 2017 WSM and one Arnold Classic, which doesn't matter anyway according to himself.
Also only the deadlift record matter, wondering why he tried so hard to break the log world record.
He contradicts himself everytime back in 2017 he did a "WR 18inch deadlift" with his books and Colin Bryce as referee at some bookstore he claimed it official that he beat Tom Magee and everything... When Thor did 501 and he started to complain i called him out about that 18inch deadlift record on one of his posts in instagram and he actually replied to me said something like "it was not official it was for fun books are not calibrated" all of a sudden it was not official when back in the day he claimed it was
@@Fabriziofilms You actually think he took that lift seriously? He was promoting his book lol 😂 Of course he is going to claim it as a WR to gain PR.
Your first two points don't change anything. Eddie creamed him at worlds, thsre is no reason to think he wouldn't continue to. As for the 501, that was pretty sketchy for all the reasons Eddie points out, and Eddie doesn't bring it up anywhere near as much as 2017 which is the root of the issue.
@@Fabriziofilms basically, Eddie admits it wasn't serious and Thor refuses to for his. Got it.
@@brahtrumpwonbigly7309 i didnt saw that lift today or last year i saw it the same day he lifted it and he claimed official Colin said official on the video its even on his instagram and fb he typed official go look the 2016-2017 posts i think its still there... Ive been following Eddie career since 2015 way before you guys that only know the 500 and dont even know what is a suit or straps appeared claim to be Eddie fans and know nothing about him, dont forget the multiple times he broke records by 1kg and everything was cool now all of a sudden people make fun of it just because it isnt Eddie who is breaking the records
I would love to see them compete against each other in strongman in their current shape. THAT would be entertaining
might be close as thor. completely stopped and eddie still trains it. However, give both of then 6months to train and thor will be miles above him again
@@Eagle_SFM He went fully into training boxing and lost a lot more weight than eddie, he lost much more.
Fair and decent commentary as always from Chez Shahlaei. Personally, I can't wait for this to be over - it is neither strongman nor boxing and I feel it has taken up too much web time already.
Same. I have absolutely no shits to give about this fight. I honestly can’t wait for this bs to be over with and we can get back to enjoying Strongman without every comment section being about this.
Web time lol there's a lot worse on CZcams you could be watching and nobody is forcing you to follow it
Eddie Hall: 'My life's dream was to win the WSM. I did it and I made millions off the back of it. I am happy'
Also Eddie Hall: You didn't congratulate me Thor, you stole my moment under the sun and this trauma is now comparable to rape!
Make up your mind drama queen.
Eddie has gotten worse and worse over time. I think Thor is the better boxer technically, but Eddie really wants to rip Thor's head off more than the other way around, so I don't know who's going to win, but I'm hoping Thor does. Thor definitely acted like a child in the heat of the moment in 2017, but he's clearly matured greatly over the years. Eddie has just seems like a 350lbs 5 year old.
Totally agree
Yeah Eddie seems to have ADHD or something. Mentally he seems messed up
Yea, also has mutiple records of domestic abuse but hey, "he's a changed guy" right?
@@chasejordan9295 does he have any domestic abuse allegations since 2017? Dig them up, I'll wait.
It's funny that Eddie thinks thor was out of order for not congratulating him pretty sure he stuck the middle finger up to loz during an event at brits whilst winning not exactly sporting eddie isn't covering himself with glory with some of the comments think his bringing alot of shade to the sport of strongman considering he achieved amazing things and brought alot of positives
eddie was slighted by thor in his eyes ...big deal grow up why does thor have to give a toss about your win ? its ok when hes flipping loz the finger though or screaming in peoples faces at the uks strongest man armwrestling back in the day and still losing lololol he respets no one but his own ego and expects everyone to give a toss about him
Not to mention at wsm 17 eddie said quote, 'I came to shake your hand and congratulate you on second'. Passive aggressive a hole move and expected thor to kiss hiss butt lolllll
@@CL-ty6wp yeah he’s a classy guy lol always playing the victim when he’s a self centred knob I hope he gets beaten Saturday I can’t wait 😂
Maybe pay attention a little. Eddie doesn’t care that Thor has bad sportsmanship, as he always does. The whole reason that Eddie cares is because Thor said Eddie’s win was rigged. I’d be pretty upset as well if I won a contest that big just for someone to come and say it was rigged and I cheated
@@CL-ty6wp he also congratulated Brian on third……that’s not even close to passive aggressive, just congratulating someone. Actual speds
@@CT-8500 Eddie does care he’s been crying he wasn’t congratulated for years ….And the event was questionable any other years events Eddie dosent win ….a squat and a deadlift and a shoulder press in one year 🤔
I remember watching the livestream of thors 501 and the moment he said he was doing this dumb boxing match my heart sank. He literally reached the peak of the sport and then called it quits so he could do a celebrity boxing match. Sucks to see as a strongman I expected Thor to win a few more WSM
Yeah, it's a shame for the sport that it happened but probably a great thing for his health and bank account.
Biggest lost for Strongman since decades
I felt the same way
@@MellonVegan true there are definitely no losers in this match $$$$$
Why would you be sad as a fan of Thor that he has become healthy and earned over 1 million for this supposedly "dumb boxing match", its a great business decision for Thor due to the bells palsy ruining his acting career and hes just got married and had a kid after winning WSM and taking his arch rivals most prestigious record lol be happy for the guy, I know I'll be interested in what he does next and Eddie has clearly sorted out generational wealth and sorted out his health, this was great for both of them as they had pushed the limits of what was possible and now they reap the rewards
The Arnolds is the pinnacle of Strongman and has been for years
After 2017 wsm Eddie went on the true Geordie podcast, in which I called out Thor say that 'you don't trash your own sport' (may not be the exact quote) and what Eddie has just done is even worse, repeatedly saying that every other national and international title means nothing and by saying that in my opinion jes writing off every great national title holder, every Europes title holder and every Arnold classic winner
Thor means eddie only has one international win
Eddie always said he was the STRONGEST strongman, so why he never won the Arnold's?
I think thor has more of a point then eddie when it comes to that one
Because Arnold's is not the standard that you measure the strongman at, that's worlds strongest man. if you win that, you were the strongest that year, at that competition.. Thor won a lot of competitions, but he won WSM one time and in that sense that's all that matters.
Usually, the other competitions are used to let people qualify for the invite to WSM as well, that's why it is at such a high regard.
Thor wanted to win everything, he did win a lot of competitions.
Eddie just wanted to win WSM as that was all that ever mattered to him, he did.
Its a matter of perspective.
because he couldn't rig the arnolds with his business partners
@@ManlyMan. no its not a matter of perspective
The heavier show is the one which requires the most strength, just because its named "worlds strongest man" doesn't mean anything, that's just the name of the TV show
@@ManlyMan. So if I make a comp and name it "Strongest man in the Universe" it automatically makes it true and you become the strongest man in the universe for that year?
Eddie seems to be doing himself more harm than good with this so far ..
Especially to his family under him. What wife and child would want to burden his hate and negligence? It's crazy how Alex has even stayed with him throughout his Strongman career. Stockholm Syndrome I guess. Happens to a lot of weak women.
'hate and negligence' 🤣 bro you're probably in an rent apartment she's in mansion
@@a-a-rondavis9438 Hahaha yea, compared to thor literally throwing his girlfriend around and hitting her, what a monster. Ya f_ckwit.
Edit: A lot of weak men are fooled by appearances, seems your one of them.
@@geert574 Not to mention I guarantee none of this comes back home, im sure he talks about it a bit, but he makes it seem like eddie walks around foaming at the mouth while swimming in his mansion pool, what a fruitcake.
Loz- will you address the issues of events and criteria being changed for Halls benefit ? Is it true that in 2016 when Hall a strained thumb, the events in his heat only were changed? In 2017, we know the drag was taken out of the finals to benefit Hall, but is it true the stone platforms were lowered? Is it true they had the athletes start at the 1st stone rather than running to them as normal? After a while the obvious objective evidence cant be denied. Hall is just mad because the truth has came to light and Thor, of all people , hit 501 on the DL
Perhaps he means when Eddie set the 500kg when he got to decide every increment for all the athletes (according to Brian who didn't compete as a result) and then Eddie pulled out after that first event. I.e. as close to an Eddie-centric set of circumstances - 20 miles from his house - as you could hope for really.
Still an incredible achievement of course. As is Thor's.
Of course the fuckin platform was lowered, for Eddie. If they put the plate forms at the same height how is that fair to Eddie who’s supposedly 6’3 against Brian Shaw who’s 6’8?
@@robertgammett8718 No strongman event can be considered "fair," period. Most overwhelmingly favour highly specialized physiques.
@@robertgammett8718 Think about all the other shows Eddie has been in where being small is a huge challenge for him going against people like Brian and Thor. And strong man you deal with what’s there and the best man wins
I'm glad this fight is happening, however, I'm mostly just glad that this might actually be put in the past now, I think it's unfair to the current exceptional crop of strongman athletes for us to be caring about a 5-year-old spat over a WSM title. I also feel that the toxicity involved throughout the years has been a really bad look for a sport built on mutual respect and camaraderie.
Things I'm excited for:
The fight < Loz's coverage and commentary
What about the claim of Eddie being in business with Colin Bryce in 2017 and having the events set up for him?
They became business partners in 2019, Thor just likes to spill lies
@@davidlivingstone5670 I mean becoming business partners shows that they have a conection that far longer then 2019 and could have been in the room for years before that. Eddie winning WSM was very good for the business.
@@Hesher93 they all have long time connections, there are many business partnerships throughout the sport, Thor uses this point to try and validate his ridiculous claims.
@@davidlivingstone5670 also i think eddie was the only sponsored athlete from giants live ever. And Colyn sponsored eddie Dokumentary from 2015(?) so there is more then, all have a long Connection.
Eddie is not handling this well, the pressure and emotion of it all seems to be getting to him, he's making himself look worse and worse as the days go by.
You have to remember he’s a scroat from stoke underneath!
Thor has a temper but makes himself look like the good guy and having a huge part of the fan base thinking eddies win was riged is ot the same as being a sore looser
@@patrickloughran3039 Not to mention he beat his ex gf and raped her at one point, but yea, everyone cares about appearances nowadays, who you truly are doesnt matter, as evidenced by all the comments on this shit.
Most balanced take ! I've been trying to decide whose side I'm on for a year now 😂 love them both but for some reason find myself hoping Thor wins, think it's Eddie's arrogance and dameanor that puts me off a bit.
tbh Thor started it all by saying Eddie didn't deserved wsm 2017 even though everyone else thinks Eddie deserved it 100%. also beating a world record by 0.2% outside of competition is kinda lame... he promised to attempt the 505 kg but did not at the end.. I'm disappointed by Thor so it wasn't a hard decision for me
@@willyli8304 to be fair almost all world records are only beaten by a very small amount. No one goes out and runs a 7 second 100meter sprint
@@jeff5798 Eddie set a record of 465kg and beat his own record by 35kg...
@@jeff5798 I'm just rly disappointed thor didn't try 505 even though he said he will....
@@willyli8304 fair enough, but my decision is not about past mistakes. But how these grown men choose to carry themselves now in the present.
Eddie disregard for strongmen is obvious after watching the video, I wonder whether he knows what strongmen is all about. He has disrespected the greats of the strongmen and he should apologise
The guy compared losing to Licis as "being shit at the sport". Such an unnecessary and rude thing to say, what a moron.
Then what about thor? He is the one who has the least respect for the strongman game.
@@rampage3337 By questioning something that was questionable , where the outcome would greatly effect his career?
Especially since events were already changed to encourage eds win.
@@CL-ty6wp go watch the video - there was nothing questionable he was just a sore loser.
lmfao, almost like him wanting thors apology, shush goofy kid
Hey Lozzy, I do have a question since you were there that year:
People say that there were sudden event changes just before the finals (dropping the anchor pull, making the deadlift for max instead of reps, lowering the stone platforms and allowing the rest on the viking press). Is that true? I personally wouldn't say Eddie himself cheated but the way Colin banged on about the first British winner in 25 years, I wouldn't put slightly changing the odds in Eddie's favour past him.
In general, I personally don't care about that anymore, it was 5 years ago, whatever. But since it is coming up now and then, I'd like to not be spreading misinformation, at least.
treu ive heard this stuff many times but for all we know its some out of control rumor
@@teocarre4026 It's a rumor that Eddie and WSM have put a lot of effort to stomp out though. Which kinda just makes it more suspicious, to say the least.
if you look at the events that they had, i would argue that they favour brian and thor more than eddie. sure, eddie had a better deadlift, but they were 2nd best in the world at that event. Eddie had stronger shoulders, but his records were in axle press so viking press levelled the playing field a little. Squat, everyone was surprised brian didnt win, the guy just timed it wrong. plane pull, that looked like Thors, and then the atlas stones. Thor was known as king of the stones. If either of the other podium athletes had won, you could claim the events were tailored for them
@@sharpestbulb what in the world are you thinking? you couldnt make better events for eddie if you tried. viking press is the only overhead event that limits how much you are allowed to use your entire body and force you to brute force shoulder power the weight without technique, which 100% favors eddie over thor. deadlift was just eddie's baby. squat was his next best event and already the 3rd static event, which is just never a thing in wsm except for 2017. tyre flip was one of his best dynamic events and plane pull is the only dynamic event that heavily favors high bodyweight like eddie. while thor is a better plane puller, he is "more better" at any other dynamic event you could think of. atlas stones are atlas stones and just part of wsm. I dont see eddie winning in any other set of events from 1977 to 2021
I found it strange Colin took up Head-ref spot personally. Magnus has been the head ref during WSM for years.. and has been since. kinda sketchy as well.
Level headed and fair, as ever.
I’d love to meet Loz. He seems like such a nice bloke.
Eddie is out in those same dark water he went with his deadlift. It must be so mentally exhausting. You saw it when he was hitting the pads in his last video. All consumed by the event.
And don't forget, that mentality made him break the 500kg barrier when the previous record was 465. Eddie will die on the mat.
I would honestly not be surprised, that if Thor wins, Eddie might hit him from behind.
@@Joncka yeah honestly I don't want something like that to happen (to either one of them), and I dread that one of them will snap or something and will just go all out and they'll need like 8 guys each to hold them back or some shit lmao
@@Joncka Eddie wouldn't do that.
@@falseprophet258 If anyone would pull some shit like that, it would be Eddie.
Is eddie stopping running the Arnold's in the UK now?
Since it doesn't matter and all
hopefully
Eddie's comment about rape was disgusting and didn't sit well with me at all. Did Thor's team cherry pick it to make Eddie look bad? Absolutely. But Eddie still said it, and it's just such a shocking thing for someone with the platform he does, and that this fight is bringing, is shameful.
you can use the word rape in all sorts of situations, he didnt use it wrong get over it.
@@TwoManOperation use your brain
@@TwoManOperation you can, but there are all sorts of situations where you shouldn't. You DO NOT do what Eddie did.
@@TwoManOperation you can, still it's wrong.
I'm still a Fan of Eddies, but as a woman I'd say he beeds to get his feet on the ground asap.
Thank you for your complete honesty . Very well explained
I feel like the beef between the two is just exaggerated to the point where it's purely for marketability and nothing more. Both are retired, both are focusing on their family life much more now; why not hype it up for a 7-figure boxing match? If they were a bit more open about how staged some of the stuff they do is, it wouldn't create this unnecessary divide between strongman fans to the point where it's no longer about just this stupid fight anymore, and you're genuinely looked at differently in the community depending on who you support.
I don't think these athletes should even represent strongman anymore imo. They're clearly not interested in competing again, and all they do is further divide the fanbase via fake beef/exaggerated drama.
My guy if you think this beef is fake you're blind. Eddie clearly genuinely fucking despises Thor and will never stop acting like a child.
Eddie is making way more accusations and has the idea in his head that thor is the one trying to diminish achievements but lets be honest, nobody would even know about the double dip issue if eddie didn't post it all over the Internet. Very sneaky
I remember it from the competition.
Anyone watching the sport at the time was aware if it.
But it has been blown up just because they are the two biggest names.
At the Arnold's recently licis was awarded a couple of questionable reps and went on to win the title.
Most strongmen just accept it, because if the ref gives a down signal that's the end of it
@@user-tx5sw4hq1h they didnt show it on tv though only on youtube, they showed the disallowed reps but none of the drama. Eddie made it into a documentary with multiple parts, if thor diminished eddies win that day then eddie just helped him do it 100x more since the day while thor never mentioned it again. I also remember the main controversy was around the events being taylored for eddie that year just like his 500kg deadlift was, there was no medleys or carries based on mobility and speed it was all static events and a plane pull which was highly unusual for world's strongest man
@@berternie6181 It is entirely possible that for logistics reasons that some of the events had to be changed at the last minute, and simply it was luck that those were usually good events for Eddie. Just because a guy lucks out on all the events are his best events doesn't necessarily mean that something was rigged that way on purpose. How many years did Mariusz get his best events by plain lucky draw? Just how it breaks down sometimes.
@@mikerude5073 maybe so but eddie is acting like there is alot more to the story, i also remember big loz mentioning it being taylored for eddie too but i could be wrong
Well someones gotta point out the cheating fruitcake. And he's sneaky? Did you know Thor has multiple records of domestic abuse? Probably not as anyone that utters a word about it gets sued immediatly lmfao, yea, so sneaky eddie is.
I personally can't stand either of these two anymore. I think they're an embarrassment to the sport the way they act. I know people say this is supposed to help popularize the sport but Martins is doing a better job just by having fun and not acting like complete Divas like these two have been for the last few years. As an Icelander I used to love Thor but once he started getting surround with that entourage of yes-men his attitude change..and not for the better.
Yeah I agree completely they are just embarrassing
Thor does commercials for alcohol. How could you like a man getting paid to promote brain damage? Y'all had some really really low standards....
You clearing that the Deadlift was live is huge. Eddie really succeeded in having me suddenly question that lift saying it was recorded. Glad I watched this
I have to play devil's advocate, how would Loz 100% know if it was live since he wasnt there or in charge of the streaming, from what i understand he was at his house commentating on the event taking place in Iceland.
@@superdrew8564 He interviewed Thor after the lift. That's when Thor dropped the challenge to Eddie for the boxing match.
@@Cain353 yes you’re right
Loz, great coverage and insight as usual! I'm interested in your take on the comments made about Magnus. (see 10:46, 10:49, 11:02, 11:07 & 11:11 of the IFL video you linked). Yikes.
I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be allowed to talk about it
Thank you for 5 timestamps literally less than 30 seconds apart
@@maartenn2217 You're entirely welcome. Each highlights a 1-2 second snippet. Glad you appreciate it.
@@everychannel1025 Maybe, maybe not. As you can see, I simply stated interest in hearing his take on those things.
Personally:
a) I belive, everyone thought Eddie won fair and square in 2017 whereas dismissed Thor´s behavior as "get over it m8", Thor moved from it while Eddie didn´t, everyone said "We are proud Eddie" but all Eddie wanted was Thor to kneel before him and despise been in the right at the time he "Smeared" his own win more thatn Thor ever did. AND! Eddie brought into attention Thor´s questioning of WSM wich made a large fanbase of the sport question how the contest was put together, how other contests have been put together and even how the 500 deadlift was put together, on the long run discovering smelly stuff that end up causing Pritchett an injury... So Eddie shot himself in the foot like 3 times there.
b)Eddie burping while Thor was talking and comparing Rape to not reciving encouraging words... Ufff. Vince McMahon takes his hat to you Edduard, and not in a good way. Eddie hit a new low when throw that rape line, it was obviously removed from the interview, it saddned me, i used to mir Eddie, but the way he percives the world, how he acts the things he´ve done and said this past two years... i find ironic Eddie has said he don´t want his children looking up to Thor when i don´t think anyone want anyody looking up to Eddie now.
c) The 501 deadlift questiong... LOL. Eddie´s lift was tailored to him, yet we all take it as a given thing, no athlethe went to check the weight on the bar or anything, this been talked over and over again, it amuses me how Eddie belives must people deny Thor´s lift when is the other way around, the majority of the strongman communitie agrees Thor holds the record, including athlethes, promoters and anyone that is not Eddie or Giants live, Covid restrictions made impossible more than 15 guys to be in the GYM with Thor, we all wanted to be in competition but is what it is, Thor smoked Eddie´s previous record. Like WSM 2017 Eddie should let it go.
d) About talking shit on Rogue and Thor´s dad... WTF Eddie? Are you stupid or something? Rogue is right now the top sponsor for strenght sports, Eddie trying to throw´em under the bus like that... ufff, i know, the heat of the moment, but who should we belive in as sponsor? Eddie? I think not. And it makes no difference who weighs the wieghts cause it´s done with a viable sponsor with a viable strongman organization and in front of the eyes of the most revered referee of strongman of all time, wich brings me to
e) Talking shit on Magnus and Colyn... Oh man, i hate them doing this, don´t drag other people in your BS, however, Colyn is a clown, on a good way, he is quite funny, he is our funny guy, however WSM is in big questioning for arrenging stuff with Giants live, and this is a common practice since a while ago, so point taken. Magnuss bullied? LOL, i don´t buy any of that, my thought of Magnuss might be to high but 1) Eddie trash talked Magnuss for refereein ; 2) Eddie suddendly talks with Magnuss and Magnuss, a grown man, says how he was bullied... yeah right. I´m not saying there could not be something fishy about Magnuss going to referee, after all Mark from WUS knows very dark shit about Bryce and WSM, so it might be possible he twisted Magnuss arm to go and referee... highly unlikely. AND, does it matter at the end? Magnuss went, the weight was verified, the lifts where good. Point not taken.
f) It was live. To finish the 501 saga, what Eddie claims is a giant conspiracy against him involving the mayoritie of the strongman communittie, comentators, athlethes, WUS, ESPN, Thor, his Dad, his son, his dog, me, ROGUE and Magnuss to take the 500 from him, while noone can question his lift... so no.
g) About the hand shake... Do you even notice how Eddie belives he can lie to people? Like WTF? "You did not shook my hand" ? Bro, we all saw Thor shook you hand, stop lying, then he says Thor did not shook his hand during the meeting... wich he did! Da Fuk? Does Eddie belives his own BS?
h) Double dipping... LOL, if only Eddie didn´t looked as much of a child, i was laughin and how ingenious it was, cause it was smart, and at how dumd Edduard looked, way to present a good segment and shoot your self in the foot... again
i) The other day confrontation: Now we know as a fact it was a set up, a set up that end really badly, making heat for the fight is a good idea, but throwing Eddie and Thor in a situation where they obviously gonna loose their shit... bad on the promoter, spit exchangue, your fight on the edge, someone allegedly got injured and this time i wouldn´t really blame Edduard or Thor, as disgusting as their behavious could be, specially spitting from both guys.
j) WSM been "the only one that people cares about" ... again LOL. Is not even the one that people whitin the strongman communitie chases the most, that would be the Arnold´s wich Eddie never won, WSM is not even reaching as much people as it used to and is falling behind competition due to it´s dumb TV format. Still WSM still has a place on our hearts, but Eddie comparing his one win to Thor´s 5 (3 ASC, 1 WSM, 1 WUS, 6 ESM) LOL, he won Brittains and Uk´s though, but as much as i respect those competitions is not even comparable, Eddie doesn´t even hold many strongman records anymore, wheres Thor has a load of them still. SO Sorry for Eddie but as good as he was he is not even close to what Thor achived
k) "You won WSM only cause i retired" ... i´m tired of writting "LOL" at this point. Man in the set of events on 2018 Eddie would end like 5th at best with a big margin behind Thor, Eddie won WSM fairly but he was not taking more than that win, also if he had not retired he´d be dead XD like he said he would
Damn bro save the essay for college 🤣🤣🤣
@@vvoof2601 Eddie just gave that much BS to work with. If he only left it at (A) it looks like a innocent mistake. By (K) we know we're dealing with an unstable narcissist. He could have wrote more because there are more holes in Eddie's legendarium. If Eddie loses this fight his next move is probably to make a 1000 page novel on how someone not saying "well done" was a crime against humanity.
What about Eddie saying that Magnus was forced to ref the 501 deadlift
Thanks for being a fair and balanced bright light in the world of strongman Loz
Must be helluva hard for any strongman to talk about this. At least one of the competitors would take any criticism very personally and would make it a massive drama.
It is odd and interesting to me how far this has all gone and how the instigation of it has ... been shown? I remember the videos that actually instigated this... and really, at the time, there was no bad blood or anything. Eddie did a Q&A stream and someone asked if he thought he could beat Thor in a fight. Being Eddie, of course he did. A week or two later - if that - Thor, doing a small Q&A bit at the end of a training video, Skulli asked Thor his thoughts on that, and Thor , of course, thought he'd win, and suggested that it'd be a great event and how they could raise a lot of money for charity if they did it. And form there, it was a brief back-and forth of essentially both being up for it, Thor wanting tie to do what he wanted in Strongman and to train etc... and all respectful and good natured.
Then came the lead-up to WUS and Thor's 501 lift, and lockdown... now, this is kind of as much my theory on what happened - or, on why - but Hafthor started a Twitch channel playing video games he used to enjoy, to both have something to do and engage with fans, and it was around then that Eddie started the whole 'it won't be a real record' stuff. Don't recall who brought up 2017 first, but with the streaming, I'm fairly certain that Thor will've had a lot of people in his chat stirring things. And given lockdown, neither having really people to talk sense to them etc... it built and built.
I suspect that Eddie likely planned, at WUS, to kind of play that 'you'll never make this lift' etc... and kind of set himself up as the heel for their 'announcing' the boxing match. I also very much expect that in that case, it would've been good natured and would've led to, maybe, a better spirited fight. Lockdown did happen and... well, both guys're used to always being on the move, always with other people, so Eddie'll have been ridiculously bored. far, far more than Thor, since he had his gym and the 501 record to focus on - and a new baby son, and I think that stir-craziness played a reasonable part in Eddie making some of the comments he did; again, added to by Thor having a Twitch comment section stirring things on his end.
Also, I think Thor would've done 505 had lockdown not happened and he'd made the attempt at WUS. He'd have had all the people he did have, plus the crowd there, and the competition. Heck, Licis alone might've convinced him to go for 505 and he'd have pulled it.
Anyways, is all either from memory and my own thoughts/suspicions on things. Very much agreed on how Eddie's... obsessed. Used to enjoy his channel, watching him training Paddy McGuiness for example was always fun. Few moments I thought 'Really Eddie? are you 12?' but always a good guy... but yeah, either he's playing his part maybe a bit too well, or kinda needs to dial things back a few notches.
Also, the pair had even got on well enough after 2017. Little bit tense maybe between them, but no real bad blood I noticed. Even did one of those eating challenges with Larry Wheels together and seemed to have a laugh.
Anyway, I'll stop typing now. Just my 2p - or maybe 15p- worth.
Jeez! Next time make your own reaction video.
What a boring essay! Tf is wrong with you mate
@@Juan.Louis. Remember when you could leave a video response, and it would show up under the video you were watching?
I said that in a different video regarding Eddie and Thor, but Eddie's claim that only WSM comp matters is utter bullshit!
Imagine saying that to a GOAT like Big Z or Brian Shaw, that their life-long achievements and wins in all these shows (some of them being Arnold's Classic which are considered way harder/heavier than WSM) don't matter because only WSM matters.
Also, if that were the case, then Eddie's (and Thor's) single WSM wins wouldn't mean jack shit because they "only won once", while you have multiple people that won 2, 3, 4 times, and of course Mariusz Pudzianowski who won 5 times. Fucking ridiculous.
WSM is the pinnacle tho.. Plus he won it in probably the most competitive year ever in terms of competition depth so his win in my opinion is one of the great ones.. he was the strongest guy on the planet in 2017, I don't think anyone can really argue against that.. yes Arnolds is a great competition but a lot of those people he was competing against in 2017 won Arnolds , so if it's so great they should've beat him shouldn't they…
@@wandyy8078 If he was so great then he should've been able to win an Arnold's, but he didn't.
Also, he lost to Thor at 2017 Europe's Strongest man, came 3rd in 2016 WSM when Thor came 2nd with 8 points lead, and won 2017 with only 1 point ahead of Thor.
Not to mention that the events were tailored for him with having more static strength events than usual.
As someone who competed in the competition, can you shed any light on these conspiracies that Bryce changed events at the last minute to favour Eddie.
Also, who actually picks the events and how often are they changed at short notice?
Thanks
@@five11four But when the events are changed last minute in a way that massively benefits a certain competitor's strengths, and the changes are made by someone who is friends and in business with that competitor, it's extremely suspicious and deserves questioning and addressing.
They were not in business in 2017
Hey, Loz (and Liz).
Can you read this, please. I've been a strongman fan since I was a youngster, now in my 40's, and this 'feud' has gone way too far, to the point that it is infecting the strongman brand. I used to look up the strongman community, recognising the incredible effort and sacrifice that goes into building a life around competing, and was always hugely impressed by the general camaraderie that existed.
However, this 'face-off' is now so toxic and uncomfortable that you cannot be completely honest with your opinion, here. It's embarrassing, but it's now more than that. It's offensive on so many levels. And unacceptable. Eddie has ruined his reputation, and I'm not sure whether he can reclaim it. He is absolutely not a person to look up to. His obsession with 2017 - namely Thor's protests - appears to have genuinely affected his mental health. He has lost all reason. Eddie won fair and square - why would he give any credence to Thor's comments? It's odd, but more than that. It suggests Eddie is unbalanced. Lots of competitors, in many different sports, have felt like they didn't get what they deserved or something wasn't fair and right. This is no different. Further, most other commentators thought Eddie won it fair and square. There is no sane reason for Eddie to hold onto this. It's 2022! Loz, you have not called Eddie out over this.
And in recent weeks Eddie has openly mocked Thor's bells palsy, in the most blatant and malicious manner. He recently joked, again very deliberately and maliciously, that Thor might fail an AIDS test. He then passes comments comparing what happened in 2017 to rape. He intentionally interrupted Thor's training session with the intention of having a street fight. In the process he spits, and also injures another party. I could go on. Let's be honest, here: Eddie has revealed himself to be a scumbag. An unbalanced, venomous bully. Why isn't your community calling him out on it? He is literally being given a free pass to behave in ways that would cause outrage in pretty much every other sport. Strongman deserves better from two men who are where they are as a result of what Strongman has give them.
And these are two of the great strongmen. I have no complaint about Eddie's 2017 win. I have heard the complaint about the 4 and 4 events, and how they were changed to a 3 and 5 which favoured Eddie, but I don't know enough about it. Is there any truth to this? Maybe you can comment. But I have no complaint. I think Eddie performed really well and did enough to win. Thor , for this part, is one of the greats. His breadth of wins does matter: he is a more successful strongman than Eddie. Even so, both are giants of the sport.
What an absolute shambles this has become. And I'm not saying Thor is perfect. He was a sore loser (it happens, though) in 2017 and he has played a part in the childlike, immature behaviour that has characterised the period from then until now. But he ISN'T responsible for Eddie's grudge: Eddie has manifested that himself. It's deluded. And Eddie doesn't look right. His character really has been revealed during this process and there is a very ugly side to it.
Even with the boxing match - these guys are so big that there is a risk of being seriously hurt. Eddie's hatred of Thor and the slight in question has made for uncommittable listening when it comes to the idea of 'smashing', 'tearing heads off' etc. This event should have happened under very different circumstances. It's a horrible, uncomfortable, and wholly unlikeable process and Eddie has certainly had the most to do with this.
For my part, I was fans of both during their Strongman time. Again, I love Strongman. I'm done with Eddie, and don't hold out much hope that the match will be redeeming in any way. Too much has already happened. He is that guy.
Loz, and Liz, thanks for your channel. I love the passion you both have for Strongman. You're both so knowledgeable, but it's your love of the sport, and your respect for it and the competitors that shines through. Which is why I have no doubt that you will secretly be embarrassed and disappointed by what you're seeing from Eddie (and to a much lesser degree, Thor). Keep building what you're doing and do look at what other channels are doing so you can elevate what you do. I think you can be successful.
I can't wait for this to be done. One of the worst things to ever be associated with Strongman. And again, it didn't have to be like this at all.
But... but, in 2017 Thor called him a cheat!
That alone gives Eddie the divine right to skin Thor's wife alive and blend her eyeballs in his protein shake, burn down his house, stab his kids and do whatever he feels like doing forever! Thor deserves it! /s
I really share your opinion 100%, this entire thing is extremely toxic and made the fans (of both sides) toxic as well. I couldn't care less if Eddie held a grudge forever but he went on a 5years long revenge crusade and embarked his fans with him.
I discovered Eddie first when I started powerlifting, at the time he was using his cartoon intros and I thought they were funny because I didn't know what they meant, I didn't know it was a part of his petty revenge crusade against Thor (who I didn't know about since I quit watching GoT after the first episode).
I hate the negativity that comes out of this boxing match.
I wish it was just 2 men fighting each other to let off some steam and get rid of the bad blood between them before hugging and forgiving each other but it's not, it's just one more step in the whole hate and revenge thing.
Well if i viewed boxing the same way you viewed strongman i wouldnt be able to stomach it anymore with r3t4rds like jake paul and logan paul running rampant.
Eddie's arguments, comparisons and even reasoning for his hatred are getting ridiculous. Over the past 2 years it has consistently gone from me not caring who wins to really hoping eddie gets hurt in the ring by thor.
Thor shook his hand, but didn't say congratulations? For F sake.
Comparing this to rape?
Insinuating losing to Licis is an embarrassment?
Arnold classic not mattering as a comp?
Lying flat out about thors deadlift.
Good grief.
ye, what he did to licis by that is worse than what thor did to him in 2017.
That being said, licis is a better strongman than eddie ever was and thor became 3rd in 2019 despite an injury that absolutely would have made eddie pull out
@@allylilith5605 Eddie said that he would have won WSM 2016 had he not dislocated his fingers but made fun of Thor for not winning in 2019 despite his torn planta facia? Is this man serious? He also thinks that the 501 deadlift doesn't count because it wasn't in competition but congratulated Biby on his out of competition 229 log press. What a joke Eddie has become.
I find Eddie's personality very hard to stomach most of the time .. the double dip candy was just fooookin hilarious
Eddie has become far too emotionally involved. It's almost like his life revolves around Thor and it's clear to see that Thor really has no personal issue whatsoever. Thor is winning this fight and I doubt the majority of people watching will be disappointed with that result.
it actually revolves aroung thor. Eddie would be a thing of the past if not for this retarded beef
@@kawan3661 Eddie seems completely obsessed with Thor, it is actually quite embarrassing.
Looks to me that it's too personal for both of them. Both act like world's strongest children.
If you worked your whole life to achieve one thing and when you did it was smeared by another person who has so many fans that whatever he says is taken as truth, then you would take it seriously and personally
@@davidlivingstone5670 I would initially be disappointed in Thor, but to still carry that much anger towards someone is not healthy. It's not even as if strongman is a sport that's covered or reported about in the mainstream news the majority of the time. You will struggle to find too many people that know much about WSM, and struggle to find many more that care whatsoever about a controversial incident that happened in the sport 5 years ago.
It’s going to be an interesting sight what happens right after the winner of the fight is declared. The recent clashes show real emotions so I’m not super optimistic that they’ll make up for real. Let’s see how much steam is left after!
One of the most balanced and unbiased opinions I’ve heard on the drama.
You missed the most important one, damn - in my opinion. Eddie said "you only won wsm after I retired" and another interesting one was "you only won it once, then you lost to licis"
well both are just stupid takes
Yeah, just once after dominating strongmen all year the way Eddie never did ... His ego is so huge, it is embarrassing.
I didn’t like the implied dis to Martins. He’s shaping up to have a better career than Eddie long term and he’s a nice dude
@@cisrael468 he already accomplished more then eddie in strongman
@@cisrael468 100% agree. Martins would would kick Eddie's ass in strongman if he were to compete against him now. Martins would beat both Thor and Eddie quite honestly. He's the strongest all around man in the world right now. Martins proved that he has legendary strength when he beat Tom Stoltman in the stones by 5 whole seconds. That was amazing.
Only just found your channel u were always my favourite UK strongman keep made up your doing a channel like this keep it up big man
i would just like to point out the language difference. i haven't seen the "faceoff" but eddie without anything else has a 90/10 advantage just because they speak in english. might be hard for native english speakers to understand but it's impossible to express yourself in as good of a way in your 2nd language as it is in your 1st language. eddie is a better thrashtalker tho.
You speak only sense sir. Have a lot of respect for you your manner and achievements. Great ambassador and a true gentleman
the whole thing with the 501kg out of competition or in competition, i mean.. Eddie make it sound like its an advantage it was in his home gym etc.. At the same time, he have said many time, that he never was even close to 500kg in his gym, and that he had to dig tremendous deep and think thoughts of disaster, to lift it.. So he kinda contradict him self, with saying its an advantage and at the same time say he couldnt even come close in his gym.. 501kg is 501kg, and Magnus was reffing it, and rogue sponsor and live etc.. ofc that lift is legit.. period.
Besides that it was covid times, and as an high lvl athlete, you cant just wait 1-2 years for that, to be fair..
he contradicts himself ever 20 minutes. 500kg "broke his body" but "it was easy and could have done 550" thor did shake his hand, but he did and didnt mean to. homegym is harder than comp, but homegym lift is so easy that it doesnt count, etc. etc.
very well stated and i agree 100%! thanks for sharing the link Big Loz!!
Any inside info on the accusation that Magnus was bullied into reffing the deadlift records? That's kind of scandalous if a sponsor strong-armed Magnus
I thought the same.
I mean if its true Loz still wouldn't be allowed to say so
I'm on Eddie's side in this so obviously biased, but I haven't seen Eddie spread lies like that. I tend to feel he wouldn't day it if it weren't at least partially true.
It doesn't matter much atleast it was impartial judging, it would have been the only way to legitimise the lift to the world strongest man standards
Yes, I was disappointed that Loz didn't address that, but maybe there was a good reason that he didn't want to comment.
Finally, in impartial and unbiased commentary. I’m new to this channel, but big loz, I am a fan!
Thanks for your intelligent assessment of the up coming 'fight'. i guess when you see someone like big Loz putting a different perspective on this in a professional calm and unbiased way it makes me think that beyond all the name calling and aggresion and supposed rigged and staged meet ups between them both it's just 2 ex strongmen having a go at each other because of a petty feud by one of them that has been allowed to dominate everything good and wholesome about strongman. Clearly, Eddie is a narcissist who delights in dominating everything he does and cares little about what strongman and other athletes achievements mean, it's all about him. I'm surprised Thor allowed himself to get involved with all this but i congratulate him because he has accepted that he will fight and has set about training to such a degree that he looks very professional. Post fight, i can't see eddie changing whatever the outcome, Thor on the other hand will be human and appealing to the fans still even if he loses.
Paul Nolan- You are kidding, correct ? After Thor pulled his 501KG, He rubbed it in Eddie's face and called him out for a fight. Thor essentially initiated the bad blood by not accepting the results in 2017. He was given three warnings during the viking press with regard to double dipping, before having one rep disallowed, then went on to call Eddie a cheat. Eddie has his faults and has acted childishly on a few occasions, no doubt. You take it upon yourself to predict how each of them will act post fight, showing that you are a fan of Thor. Why not let them show us after the fight what type of character each possesses.
May the best man. . . .
act like it for a change.
@@thefinkle yeah neither man has really covered themselves in glory throughout this whole thing. Can't wait for it to be over. At least it'll be funny, but I'm about ready to be able to look at anything to do with strongman without this "fight" being brought up
It's all about money. Eddie has even said that in the past, he only really cares about money.
@@daveaglasgow he just literally said in the press conference he doesn’t care about the money let’s just fight here and now and get it done with.
I have to say the pair of you are soo level headed and honest, makes a big difference and is why I love your channel so much, keep it up!!!
I really want to see Loz sit down with Eddie and Thor and state the facts so they can stop acting like such idiots. Thor: Eddie beat you at WSM 2017 fair and square. Doesn't matter that it was only by one point. It's still a victory. Just apologise for being a bad sportsman in the heat of the moment. Eddie: to diminish the Arnold's and other major comps is ridiculous. To state that Thor only won in 2018 because you retired is equally ridiculous. If you were so sure of your superiority then you should have dominated in 2018 like Thor did. As for Thor's deadlift, just accept you're not the only man to pull 500kg. Soon someone will pull 505kg. That's just the evolution of the sport. I think they're both losing fans and credibility with their current behaviour.
Thor really levelled up and got even heavier as well. Doubt Eddie could of taken another especially with movement and loading events where Thor thrashes him.
@@Guitarist19887 exactly. Wish Eddie would see that reality. Also wish Thor would accept Eddie beat him fair and square in 2017. Anyway no guarantee any of them would be beating Tom Stoltman, Martins, Oleksii or Mateusz these days.
@@douglasnisbet1189 he was possibly strongest person ever to walk the earth when he did 501 absolutely smooth as anything. If he carried on he’d be hard to beat but could see him and Tom battling it, Toms really good
I'm more interested/excited about Loz's commentary during the fight.
Any thoughts on what Eddie said about Magnus veing 'bullied' into reffing Thor's 501kg deadlift?
Sounds like Eddie trying to smear Thor's lift. I.e what he's accusing Thor of. Irony
Even if it's true it doesn't mean he was bullied into not being a good ref...
MVM is the head judge of WSM, judges for Giants live and ASC, how could WUS bully him into doing it? He has enough job opportunities, i'm not even sure if MVM judged for WUS at any other point.
Even if he was all it means is MVM did not agree with the out of comp lift there was no question at all about the lift itself. Also people forget Thor openly said he would break the DL record at a WUS show that was cancelled he even pull out of Europes that year (i had tickets to that show so was pissed off) that's the only reason he did it in his gym.
@@Hesher93 mmm I think reign could be the sponsor that threatened to pull out
Perfect analysis of the whole situation Big Loz !
It is funny how Eddie finally admitted he lied in the last 5 year about Thor shaking hands. He literally built up all this hatred about a lie. He didn't congratulate. We wouldn't have such a drama today if it was just about this. The view everyone had was that Thor rejected shaking hands. I used to be a big fun of Eddie, but I honestly think he is a snake that likes to pull drama to make for the sake of his childish ego.
I mean, he didn't have to admit it, there was video evidence the day that he said that originally.
The whole "he shook my hand but should've said nicer words to me" is super childish and Eddie comes off sounding like a baby.
This isn't about a handshake it's about Thor saying he didn't win
Eddie had to literally shove his hand into Thors. Thor clearly did not want to shake his hand but he could not refuse the handshake at this point as he would have looked worse than he already does. I'm with Loz in this though, they should box, shake hands and let it all become water under the bridge.
@@four-stix8633 o'cmon guys. Are you toddlers? What if he was sore loser? I am sure he was. It's human to feel that way if you thought something not fair to him. He still did shake hand and said nothing afterwards. But what about causing a drama 5 years long ruining the image of strongman as a sport? That is being a freaking screaming kid.
1:58 is definitely out of context.
Eddie was making a point that Thor can easily just say "Oh its 2017, 5 years ago, you should move on and forget about it". when he's not the victim there, Eddie was making a point what if someone punched him in the face 5 years ago by a completely non-apologetic person, would he be like "Oh that was 5 years ago, i forgive you".
What about Eddies comments on Magnus being 'bullied' to do Thors lift? Thats the big issue that came up.
Considering how much eddie lies, i highly doubt there is any truth to that
@@TF-mn1wo Lies about what exactly? and I doubt Eddie would burn a bridge with magnus like that on a lie.
@@stephen2583 when has eddie lied? Are you joking?
@@TF-mn1wo no, give examples with evidence please.
I completely agree Uncle Loz on all points couldn't have said it better myself
I don't know how anyone respects Eddie as an athlete after this. His strength was respectable back in the days but his attitude is pathetic. He one upped a guy with a language barrier and holds a primary school type of a grudge because of something as insignificant as a hand shake. Talk about self-esteem. People like Eddie are the embodiment of bad stereotypes that existed in the strength/bodybuilding community since the 70's. That big man fragile ego type
It's not only the hand shake, I'm pretty sure he was referring to other stuff when he says "tarnishing his victory".
It wasn’t the hand shake it was that Thor said he cheated to get what he worked his whole life for. Thor swore on his daughters life that he didn’t miss the rep in an attempt to steal the title from Eddie after the event was over. If someone did that to you, you’d hold a grudge too.
Well said, I don't know why Eddie cares so much about the opinion of a competitor. Everyone knew that he won fair and square, Thor saying otherwise didn't change anything. Was Thor wrong for doing that ? Obviously. But did it tarnish his victory ? Not at all in my opinion. Big self-esteem issue.
@@joshmacrae5924 he cares because someone is trying to cast doubt on something he worked his whole life for
Totally agree Loz,fight it out and that's it finished.Look forward and never back.Love Eddie but story needs an ending.Good luck to you both make it a good fight.Thamks for your great channel love following you and your lovely wife.
Eddies 500kg is suspect to the same level as Thor’s IMO. He claimed HIMSELF in one of his videos that it was his own bar that was used and it was ‘specifically’ made for him (I think the specifically made part is bullshit and that’s him hyping himself up). There was also another video where he said they used his platform.
Anyone who lifts knows that everyone has their own favourite bar and that’s a huge advantage. Even if it’s the same bar model there are still differences in feel.
Secondly I am 100% sure all the almost dying shit after the lift was part real and part acting. Benni and Jerry had to wait 40 minutes between lifts because of that, and again, anyone who lifts knows that’s bullshit and you can’t do a 1RM after that kind of break.
Also from Eddie’s speech after it was clear he was heavily involved in the organization and I bet he was even able to decide when and what he lifted, just like Thor was in his WR.
@nick baker great conspiracy i gues we will never know
@@ironicgrim8367 its true.
@@ironicgrim8367 it's true, eddie admitted to using his own equipment and pritchett spoke about eddies extended rest times in an interview, take your head out of eddies ass and see past his bullshit
Thor didn't decide when he lifted, don't spread misinformation, it was decided by WUS, he only had 15 minute rest times allowed
@@TF-mn1wo so you mean basically the ideal rest time? You try lifting a 1RM with a 40min break from your last lift like Benni and Jerry had to.
wow, i didn't think i would see anyone give this much of a non bias opinion or conversation on this. i should not be surprised commin from uncle Loz though. thanks Loz.
This boxing match is such a loss for strongman, really puts a dark cloud around the sport imo. Especially Thor man, he could have been one of the greatest. Ignore his fanclub saying he already is, he really isn't, yeah he did some impressive stuff but he's not in the GOAT conversation. But boy he could have been. Such potential. Imagine a duel between him and Tom Stoltman or Martins Licis like what Big Z and Brian had. Take a sec and imagine that. Instead he got in his feelings, said some bullshit and couldn't accept responsibility even to this day. And Eddie man, ffs. Everyone loved the cheeky rogue, he could have done so much to propel the sport upwards from the outside. Now he's a dickhead who takes nothing but low blows. Should be a funny fight, but like Loz says, hopefully after this it'll be done and dusted. Complete circus act. But hey, get your money fellas. I guess when you've got a young family your values change, maybe we shouldn't judge. But damn what a shame.
I agree with most of your post, but I also think you need to look up Thors win/podium record in all events that he took part in.
@@Redsauce101 I'm fully aware of it actually, but he's still not in the class of Big Z or Brian. Hafthor has 10 major international competition wins, five at Europe's, four at Arnold's, and one at Worlds and WUS. He also holds a further four giants live wins for a total of 14 if you want to include those. I'm not counting national comps because every top tier international strongman cleans up at home.
Biz Z on the other hand, being conservative, and ignoring his world log lift championship wins to just look at general strength international comps is wellllll over 20, not to mention the staggering amount of world records he's set and still holds.
Brian also holds 20+ international competition victories, and is often regarded as the most consistent strongman to ever live, not to mention the huge amount of work he's done outside the sport to bring in new fans. That's why those two are in the GOAT conversation.
Hafthor wasn't in the game long enough to be in that conversation. He could have been, but then this shite happened.
@@alertedcoyote7892 So hes not 'One of the greatest' because?
Liz and Loz always always always fair and honest comments. Great job really great job.
Now, I just want to point out that I have not watched the video in question, so I can only speak for what I know beforehand, any further accusations might be just for the sake of drama.
2017 was the most static wsm final ever, something that benefits Eddie. The flips you had to do was made less, that also benefits him. Couple that with the fact that WSM is first and foremost a TV show, with vested interest that a marketable figure wins, England being the main audience for it, and Eddie being business partner with the men running wsm (might have become one after he won), Eddie winning is a little more than suspect. Did he beat Thor? Yes, absolutely. Did he beat Thor fairly? Thats questionable.
Tbf I get your point but I personally honestly don't think you can say its an unfair win as wsm events and strongman events in general change at least yearly and often last minute before competition, every strongman has good and bad events. for instance Tom stoltman is far and away the best stone lifter and the majority of competitions have stone lifting but I wouldn't say those events are unfair to everyone but Tom specifically. Similarly if a competition had a lot of advantages for height/weight (eg. Keg toss, stones again, truck plane buss pull etc) I wouldn't call it unfair on Eddie if thor won. Also iirc Eddie wasn't the name he now is prior to the WSM win (I hadn't heard of him and I'm English) yet thor was the "game of thrones star" so if they were biased to bring in an audience (which I agree a lot of competitions do, in general boxing and the UFC for instance) surely they'd be biased towards thor not against?
WSMs biggest audience is not the UK
@@r2dadizubz Was JPS stronger than OD? Did wsm continue to select similar events for the finals since then?
If you answer both with a yes, then fair enough, agree to disagree. If you however say no, then perhaps you will see what Im getting at.
@@davidlivingstone5670 Then what is? Strongman is probably the most popular in there, thats why they can fill in stadiums. Its a tradition to watch it at christmas time.
@@SamzSKILLZ Yes, events change all the time, but this allows them to meddle without suspicion. Was the brick carry always going to be an event, or did they actually do that to make OD lose and JPS win? Thats another controversial black spot in the history of wsm. I actually echo the statements that Loz made: its not fair that atlas stones are an event at almost every comp. Its definately a constant event at giants live shows and the wsm finals, as well as the last man standing event in the heats. Its a guarranteed 1st place for Tom, that shouldnt happen. Events change, atlas stones do not, they remain in every comp. If wsm had every type of event, and athletes could do any type of last man standing (although I would rather not have that), then I would say its not a problem, but right now, it is. Eddie already did the 500kg deadlift in 2016, he was a big name alright. The show being big in britain, having a british champion is certainly something I would rank as suspicious, coupled with every other circumstance. Not enough to make a definite statement, but enough to question it.
Wow love how you think . You are so fair . Those guys can learn from you big man . Take care .
Would have been a far better video if you actually reacted to the actual video
I think Loz is currently the best ambassador for Strong Man. A great example for young men and women.
2:05 Ah no in fairness he wasn't making an equivalence between Thor's slight and rape/being punched. Eddie argued against Thor saying they should leave it in the past when he was asked to apologise. Eddie said that's like saying to someone who got raped/punched to get over it because it was 5 years ago.
Thats what I was thinking, people are taking it the wrong way
I think eddie said the thing about all other compitions not mattering because thor was trying to one up him. He did say thor deserved those wins but i think it stopped thor from getting traction to get one up him in converstations.
Eddie just proves hes an arrogant childish man time and time again.
It's great to hear someone with actual experience from the sport and with insight knowledge drop in on this and give an unbiased view on this.
Cheers
Eddie owes the entire Strongman community a huge apology. I don't care if he was just trying to get under Thor's skin or whatever, every man should be held accountable for his words.
Eddies my favourite to win the fight off , but I still wish the both of them all the luck and that they stay safe then we might get a handshake when the final bell rings .
Eddie's comparison to of Thors actions to rape was appalling. Lost a ton of respect for him as a human soon as he said that idiotic garbage.
You must be a leftist: your emotions block your ability to think, hence missing the point.
Thor said that he had gotten over it and so should Eddie. Eddie was simply pointing out how ridiculous it is for the puncher/rapist/aggressor to expect the punched/raped/aggressed upon to get over it as easily.
@@staceygram5555 yeah well he wasn't punched nor raped, Thor lost n he made a scene, similarly Eddie has been making a scene out of Thor's deadlift n lets not forget the cry baby Eddie became when he saw Larry Wheels in that post, but before Larry's post supporting Thor, Eddie himself had animated intros on his videos about beating up Thor. Fact is Thor has moved on gracefully but Eddie keeps on clinging to the past
@@livefree5236
How are you still missing the point? What have Hafthor 'moved on from'? He wasn't the one who had his name smeared and win diminished.
@@staceygram5555 what was diminished?? Was Eddie's title taken away from him?? Thor lost, made a noise, now I dunno about the fact that he states some of the rules were bent to favour Eddie was right/wrong. Eddie is still scathing about Thor's deadlift, 2 years later. Heat of the moment PPL say things, Eddie is keeping it on regarding the deadlift for 2 years now n will probably keep it till somebody does more than 501.
@@livefree5236
Now you're missing the point _I'm_ making. I'm not defending either of these guys, I'm just saying that it's easy for the guy who did the wrongdoing (whatever that might be) to "get over it" because there's nothing to get over, whereas for the person who was wronged, it's harder to just "get over it". It doesn't make sense for Thor to say that he has gotten over it so Eddie should too - that's what Eddie pointed out and that I'm agreeing with.
Wow, so great and truthful! Yes, I'm Icelandic and with "Thor the Mountain" but you Big Loz ace, truthful, and a strong man with a big personality That Thor the Mountain likes.