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- So many of you have been asking me to bring Meg back on the podcast, and I am so excited to have her join me for this chat all about her approach to pregnancy and her homesteading story. We address questions about what foods we stay away from during pregnancy, what homestead chores we avoid, and more. What are our thoughts on ultrasounds? Prenatal vitamins? How do we maintain our businesses and homeschooling responsibilities throughout pregnancy and postpartum? I hope this chat with Meg inspires those of you who are in a similar season to make the most of this time!
In this episode, we cover:
- How Meg’s family made a radical change to pursue homesteading and debt freedom
- Thoughts on consuming raw milk during pregnancy
- What we do and do not avoid during pregnancy
- How to maintain the important things during difficult seasons of pregnancy
- Scaling back business and homeschooling when adding a new baby to the family
- Our thoughts and experiences with ultrasounds and prenatal vitamins during pregnancy
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Meg and her family homestead on 7 acres in the beautiful foothills of North Carolina, where they run barefoot, cook from scratch, work to grow more and more of their own food, and enjoy living a life worth living. They document their homestead journey on their CZcams channel, The Hollar Homestead.
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I adore Meg! ❤️ In the Homestead sphere of CZcams I feel they are probably one of, if not the most genuine and relatable channels out there.
I so agree. Love this family.
It's so good to see and hear from Meg. The dear sweet baby sister, Elizabeth Rose, arrived about 3 weeks ago. I'm so glad Buggy has a baby sister, and I'm so happy for her. Good balance for the 4 boys. They've been such fabulous big brothers. I never miss the Hollars, especially seeing Meg's cooking segments & and I love seeing Ben on the podcast with Jason & Al, too. In case you can't tell, I'm a huge fan of theirs! 😂
Same! My favourite yt channel.
Same here. Love this family and I was so happy for another girl.
So happy to see you and Meg chatting! Both your channels are two of my favorites. :)
About raw milk, Google is mostly false info in my opinion. We had a milk cow back in 1976 and we loved the cream as well as making butter and cheese. I got pregnant and asked my Dr. about drinking raw milk and did I need to get a pasteurizer. He told me, "absolutely no pasteurizer. That kills all the good stuff. If you drink raw milk within a few days, you are good. If it sours a bit, make yogurt or cheese." I LOVED that answer. A couple of years later we moved, sold the cow and got goats. Our three kids were raised on goat milk. I just eat what God has given us to eat.
Great video. There are fear mongers when talking about growing your own food and even butchering your own food and that info comes from people that have never done it. As long as things are kept clean, it's all good. We feel so much better growing and eating our own food and cooking from scratch.
Love that Meg mentioned Weston A Price when talking about raw milk!! WAPF changed my life. I got pregnant within months after following a more ancestral diet & am convinced that played a major role in my fertility
There is a wonderful book called “Expecting Better” by a data scientist that dove into all of these fear mongering things we are told as pregnant women and sussed out the true facts. I highly recommend it! She pretty much was able to debunk the majority.
You and Meg are among the most talented moms on CZcams
I too, adore Meg and the Hollar channel. The podcasts get you more up close and personal that a regular video cannot touch on.
This was great. TFS.
Yay! Thank you!
I grew up hearing my mom talk about Edsel Ford dying from raw milk. A few years ago my husband was watching a documentary on him. He had many health issues. So his body was not able to fight off things a healthy person can.
I love watching both of your channels! I am past child bearing age but do appreciate hearing different perspectives. I had no ultrasounds with my first two pregnancies in the 1980’s but did have 3 with my 3rd pregnancy in 1995. I never thought a thing about it either way. Fast forward to my life now - I am sonographer, working in a OB/Gyn office with almost 14 years of experience. When I think about how my doctor in the ‘80’s told me that he doesn’t prescribe ultrasounds for his patients unless he suspects there is something wrong compared to today’s thinking of we do them to make sure all is well, it kind of blows my mind. Even though most things go right with most pregnancies, which is such an absolute miracle, I have found many anomalies over the years. These findings help prepare some parents of what life may look like after delivery; others have been able to have life saving fetal surgeries, resulting in a positive outcome. Most of the time though, parents can know that all of the structures I look for have a normal appearance. Ultrasound is not a form of radiation - this is something some folks are confused about. There have been many studies done and it is very safe, using high frequency sounds waves that are above our level of hearing. If I can’t hear them, baby can’t hear them. The only risk I am aware of is something called thermal cavitation, where certain settings on an ultrasound system can create a heating of the tissue if misused or used over a prolonged period of time. Because of this, an ultrasound technologist should take a conservative measure to not utilize this setting when obtaining fetal heart rate under 14 weeks of gestation. Waiting for the heart to develop to a certain point is important at this stage of cardiac development. This, along with using the ALARA (As Low As Reasonably Achievable) principle, goes a long way in protecting these precious babies!
Sorry for the lengthy comment - I am very passionate about my work & the babies I see!
What studies have been done to show it safe? I can't find that information anywhere. It looked like the last time anything had been documented was back in the 90s
I have seen a midwife for all 3 of my pregnancies. Heartbreakingly, we found out our first baby was a boy at a 20 week anatomy scan and that he had anencephaly - a fatal birth defect. We had only had an 8 week ultrasound to for dating to get due date before then. It wrecked us. He was stillborn a few weeks later. Because of that history, I was conflicted with my 2nd and 3rd pregnancies about whether or not to do ultrasounds. I'm extremely conservative with that, but we decided to do a 12 week NT scan and 20 week anatomy scan for my 2nd and 3rd pregnancies because we wanted to make sure baby was developing. Ultrasounds for baby 2 and 3 triggered major feelings of PTSD and anxiety breakdowns for me, but ultimately I was grateful to have a little reassurance. After our first, I dove deeply into nutrition and natural pregnancy education which I believe helped us have two subsequently BEAUTIFUL births for our daughter (#2) and second son (#3). It was through those experiences I've learned the MAJOR importance of taking methylfolate (instead of synthetic folic acid) and choline, paired with magnesium to prevent birth defects - especially for those who have MTHFR mutations, such as myself. After baby #1, I insisted to have my genes checked even though my midwife said knowing MTHFR status wouldn't make much of a difference. Let me tell you, it did! Taking steps to detox and supplement according to those needs made my other pregnancies soooo much healthier. Thank you for ultrasounds techs who have compassion for when scans aren't showing the norm. The body language and words chosen in those moments have more weight than you realize. That bedside manner and words used can be burned into a woman's memory if her most excited moment is crushed. Those are vulnerable moments.
In 1990 my first child was born with gastroschisis. I knew something was wrong because he hardly moved at all. I begged my doctor for an ultrasound to see if there was something they could see. He refused to give me one. He said I wasn’t high risk and that was the standard back then. My son went into fetal distress and I became septic before they finally gave me an emergency c section at 36 weeks. My son had meconium and respiratory issues. I had septic shock. I was left in the small town hospital and my son was life flighted to the big city hospital that could provide the care he needed. I wasn’t able to see my baby for several days and had to sign an AMA form to get discharged so I could drive 4 hours to the city where my son was hospitalized. Multiple surgeries! Extensive hospitalization. Trauma for both mama and baby. By the grace of God my son is now a healthy man without any issues, but if I would’ve had an ultrasound we could’ve been prepared for his birth. I am very natural and don’t recommend much intervention, but I do think ultrasound can have its place. My other 5 children were born without incident and I did have one ultrasound with each of them just to be safe.
Thanks for sharing your experience with us.
I was drinking a gallon of raw milk daily for both my pregnancies. I had to stop after I established breast milk supply because I would make so much milk because of it. There’s nothing better for increasing your milk supply than raw milk, it’s the thing that no one tells you.
I love Meg and the Hollers! One of my favorite channels. Enjoyed the podcast!
Meg is such a proverbs woman, I admire both of y'all so much. God bless!🌱🌾
Great discussions, ladies. Two of my favorite channels....genuine people with the right motives!!
Yes yes yes to many of these comments!! These are two of the most down-to-earth ladies and channels, as is Sow the Land’s Lorraine. If you aren’t a Hollar Homestead subscriber, Jump Over there and subscribe!! Can’t believe their channel doesn’t have 200K yet. All together these channels cover so much and have taught someone who could be their mama… though I have always cooked from scratch, lived in many places/ had to do some things more naturally etc. We never stop learning!
Naw you need Lorraine from Sow the Land and Gina from Lumnah Acres.
This was a great interview even for us guys, spending time "with" two country-strong, wholesome, authentic ladies, gives young men aspirations to marry better than a girl boss.
If raising a family is a man's goal, this is what the mother of those children should sound like. (10/10 you nailed it again)
Meg, Ben and family rock!! Humble and genuine people!!
Great conversation with 2 stellar ladies! This grandma thanks you for leading others to a good lifestyle! Blessings to all 🤗🇨🇦
thank you!
I got exposed to toxoplasmosis in between two pregnancies (probably from taking my oldest to a baby forest school and eating something that had been in touch with dirt). In some European countries it’s standard to screen for toxoplasmosis every trimester, I always thought that the concern about the disease was a bit exaggerated but after catching it myself I’ve somewhat changed my mind 😅
Thanks for sharing.
Meg is a Wonder Woman! She’s a wizard in the kitchen and coming up with meals. She’s just an amazing person, mom and wife😊❤❤❤❤
I do agree that I am the most tired in the first month of pregnancy. I never thought about it much, but I have not been pregnant nearly as much as the two of you (since I have only three kids). Oh man, the listeria thing was always so interesting to me about eating lunch meat while pregnant, because with my first, I had pre-term labor contractions when 25 weeks pregnant, and they gave me a turkey sandwich at the hospital when checking the contractions (which thankfully I birthed him at 41 weeks instead). I was like, "Why are they giving me this when the same hospital warned me about listeria?" haha. I have never heard of the situation with ultrasounds, but it does make sense.
Meg and Ben are my favorite youtube channel. Thank you Lisa for having Meg on and helping us to learn more about both of you. You are both inspirational.
Our pleasure!
Oh man, in my first pregnancy, I was living in my husband's country where dairy isn't a big thing. You can get some milk and yogurt, but at the time, I didn't like milk (former vegan, but it took a long time to get over milk fear even after I went back to meat). This pregnancy, over 4 years later, half my diet has been my raw milk, reputable cream cheese (at one point I was eating almost a pound a week during the worst of my food aversions), every other type of cheese (from raw milk), butter by the bucket. I have been a dairy fiend these past 5 months.
Nice to see Meg sharing her wisdom. Her family is wonderful!
Two of my favorite CZcamsrs! Adore the Hollars & FoB
I think it's what you said, if you know anyone who had a negative experience with a certain thing, you will probably be more careful. For me it is the cat thing. Our family have had cats for generations, but my grandmother did get toxoplasmosis when pregnant with my mother and as a result my mother is almost blind. Otherwise, I was glad I could eat something, because of severe morning sickness throughout my whole pregnancy, so I didn't worry about things that might "not be good" for you for whatever reason. If you think about it, how have women get through pregnancy for thousands of years without these eating restrictions. Sometimes I feel that society has become so based on fear and preventing things that our bodies simply can handle less because it's protected too much.
Thanks for sharing your story with us!
Grew up on a farm and on raw milk, from cow to table. I can no longer drink milk from the store as it bothers my digestive system and have no access to raw milk.
A friend of mine had toxoplasmosis in one of her pregnancies, I don't remember where she got it from, but the poor thing was miserable. So stressed out and so many tests because her pregnancy was high risk. But thank goodness she and her baby were okay in the end, but for a while she wasn't sure the baby will survive
Glad to hear they are both good!!
@@Simplefarmhouselife Thanks :) It's hard for me to trust doctors, but I'm definitely grateful they exist and can save lives
Oh those Hollers! What a hard working earthy family, Andy and Megan from true grit Appalachia are very earth loving hard working as well, so good to visit all the great families.❤
Meg is amazing! I adore her and her family! As someone stated below, they are one of the most genuine channels along with yours.!
Ultrasounds do come with risks. The main one is that it affects hearing.
The noise level during an ultrasound for baby is the same thing as being inside a train tunnel. That’s why babies move away so much during ultrasound.
My midwife said since they came out with ultrasounds, hearing loss went up by 300%. That’s why hearing tests are mandatory for newborns.
I enjoyed the interview.
thanks for sharing!
Great episode!
Thank you, ladies for clarifying information on those topics for women who may be concerned or experiencing anxiety.
Well done ❤
Love watching the Hollar homestead! I actually came across them when they very first where packing up and moving ! Amazing and beautiful journey ! Love watching thier family grow!
🙋🏼♀️🕊. I look every day to see if Meg has posted. And I look at the views whenever! And there are thousands watching already. 💞🕊💞🕊💞🕊bless your family 🥀
Ok, I know the number 1 cause of deaths to raw cows milk is Listeria...very very rare...so why not go for raw goats milk which doesn't carry Listeria? Plus it's easier on our digestion? We went for raw goats milk which my children tolerated but they couldn't tolerate the raw cow's milk. Plus raising goats is freaking cute! And you don't have too much milk overload and they will clear your land of brush, if you have that problem.
I work on my family’s dairy farm and my midwife and vet (lol) recommended that I not assist cows with calving and especially not to touch a still born calf or the afterbirth from a still born calf bc of the potential for what caused the calf to die to pass to me. Not sure what the chances of it are but just thought I’d share since you guys were talking about it!
Thank you for sharing that with all of us.
Love, love Hollar! Ty! I am not a homesteader or a mom of many but I love your channels!❤
I am always reminding loved ones that we don’t have to listen to the Noisy Minority. They would have way less power if they were not valued.❤
Such a great podcast. Glad to find out about Meg’s CZcams
Such a wonderful life they are building for their kids and the next generations ❤️
Just found your channel and here's Meg who lived watched since Cali.
Very interesting and informative
Retired dairy farmer here we always drank raw milk( also made butter, cheese and ice cream) and my kids grew up on raw milk and the only thing my kids had was a cold maybe once a year.
Blessings to you and your family. 😊🇺🇲
Thanks for sharing!
Love Meg!!!❤❤ glad you had her on
Meg, I just subscribed to your "Hollar Homestead " through a link on this utube video description. 😊❤
I just love Meg from Hollar Homestead. I watch all of your videos and theirs. I am very interested in how you all are doing scratch cooking and farming. It's like our young folks are going back to the good old ways of self-preservation. ❤
2 wonderful down to earth moms ❤
I had my babies in 93 &97 i can't remember being told not to eat anything, just cook all meat well! In the uk unless high risk all care and delivery is midwife led , 1st arrived in hospital just (daddy happened to be home that day) 2nd in 45mins flat midwife and dad just making it otherwise 3 year would have had to catch! I think sometimes to much information is as bad as lack of it.
Closer to the way God made it. Absolutely!!
Lisa so good to see Meg from the holler homestead. They are amazing family, and so on point about homesteading. But you are as well with from scratch cooking. Such a great podcast today
Thank you so much!
Enjoyed the podcast with Meg. 😊
Hey Lisa, really enjoyed listening and meeting Meg! God bless you! 😀❤️
Thank you!
Meg is AWESOME! ❤ Thanks for sharing, ladies. 😊
Thanks for watching!
Great podcast Lisa. What’s not to love when two of your fav content creators converse!
Yay! Thank you!
I enjoy this video, I’m from NC too
Lisa you are a fabulous interviewer. Love every thing you and your sisters do.
thank you!
more about controversial topics please!!
This was a pleasant surprise to find two young women together whom I admire presenting some great information and life questions. You two are genuine.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Love this interview with Meg. Am subscribing because of it.
Glad to have you.
2 of my favorite ladies. ❤
I love thiis Video 🌱🌱🌱we live that way
I have much respect for yall both ladies 🌱👶🏼
LOVE Meg Holler !
I miss the two videos a week. I love your content!
Great information !!! Sad we grew up thinking raw milk was bad , just do your research then you can make a better choice!!!!!
Loved this ep ❤
I love the hollar family ♥️
Love Meg & Ben.❤
Meg and ben are great. Love their channel.
Ilove Meg. She is a special lady 🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟❤️❤️
For deli meat, I was told to heat it up before you eat it, and that fixes the listeria risk.
I remember their journey before they left Cali.. I have loved the CZcams jourey.
This was long ago but I did have 2 natural child births. I found a doc I loved with my second one that agreed that I could responsibly choose my own vitamins and foods. I did drink raw milk and lots of chick livers for my liver intake because liver supplements constipate me although I do use glandular products now and that works.
My two favorite women!! ❤
I'm always confused about cutting stuff out when pregnant. If it's not healthy/ safe enough during pregnancy, how is it healthy/ safe enough anytime else. If you avoid things because they make you feel worse, that's great. But how is it harmful to your baby more than it is to yourself
Because in early pregnancy, cells are diving and making organs, this process of developing a human should be interrupted. This is why there are diseases and meds that should be avoided, these can interrupt cell division.
Think back about the thalidomide babies of the late 50’s. This is an extreme example but explains why it is worse for a developing fetus over a non pregnant person.
I’m the same on this baby number 4, can’t stand the smell of fermented foods! Sad 😞
Love Meg!!
One thing that occurred to me listening is that breast milk is raw milk. I haven’t heard anyone suggest that it be pasteurized (God forbid!). So aside from doing your due diligence about the dairy that produces it for cleanliness and health of animals-raw milk has all the goodness God puts in it. Pasteurized milk is what should be suspect.
Unfortunately, many locations that accept donated breast milk for infants in hospitals actually do pasteurize the breast milk prior to giving to the infant.
@@ashleyswim4663 wow! I had no idea.
Meg is such a sweetheart,❤
I also transplanted from NorCal to NC….. best decision I ever made.
Decaf still have caffeine. It’s on par with green tea. 🍵
I have raw milk sitting out clabbering right now for the first time ever. I am keeping my fingers crossed that it works. No pasturized milk for me and I am a retired ICU RN. I am also a very unconventional nurse and make my own meds.
I clabbered raw milk, it was easier than yogurt and then I used it instead of milk in baked goods. Yummy.
I live in a suburban area where there are feral cats always using my raised garden beds as a litter box…is the food unsafe to eat? Because I can’t keep them out no matter what I do…
you can get raw milk from Amos Miller delivered in California.
Ahh this will be a good one!
That was fun.
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Raw milk saved my health & continues to do so…..
I heard about Weston a Price too
Used to be .... no hanging out laundry, riding bikes ,watching horror movies lol times they are a changing!
Great video with you and Meg.
A wonderful duo.
Thanks so much!
Ive had ultrasounds with half the babies
Oh wow. I didn’t know you have another channel.
This is Lisa's u -tube channel, so she can talk all she wants. Just listen to her, don't critize.
Decaf is formaldehyde
I’ve had 7 pregnancies. 2 ended without a viable outlook. One at 9 weeks and one at 5 1/2 months. Even before those two outcomes I still worried more with each one. Was I pushing my luck in the chances that I would have a baby with a health problem. Luckily all five children were born perfecting healthy.
Glad to hear that!
Hi Lisa and Meg. I'm lactose intolerant. I saw something on TV while back about A2 milk possibly being easier for us intolerant folks to digest. I understand it comes from A2 A2 milk cows . That said, any idea how hard it is to find someone who has a A2 A2 cow, and purchase a gallon or 3 of the milk?😊❤
Thank you. I'm looking for raw milk so I know it's freshness.
www.realmilk.com/raw-milk-finder/
You can use the link above to find milk near you and most farms will tell you or advertise if they have A2A2 milk
Hi meg,
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My midwife actually gives all her mama's to be raw milk when she has cows and goats in milk. She all for it if a mama wants it
Raw milk for the win!
Yes!
I have a question: why are youtubers/podcasters who choose to live a traditional rural life, refer to themselves and their lifestyle as homestreading.
Homesteading was about times in history when the govt's encouraged people to go to uninhabited lands and develop farm lands. For about a dollar, they would be granted a quarter section of raw land, with the stipulation being that they had to do so much in a given year to garner the title. Depending on the jurisdiction, they could often apply for more land with the same development criteria - part which included having children. Original homesteads were often started with a simple one room log cabin or sod shack that was year one. The next year might be to either clear or break land, and so forth. Those were seriously rough tmes - especially where there are siginficant winter temperatures to consider.
Anyway, that's my two bits 😊
Enjoyable discussion, ladies. I am far beyond having children and couldn't relate to your life now... but..oh, when you mentioned the cat feces in the gardens. Over the years, I find I have gotten so disgusted in the habits of cats. We also had at least one on the farm but no more. Having our barns/buildings and gardens smelling like a litter box was living pretty disgustingly. Even manure added to our gardens are composted...not fresh. It is, to me, not worth having them around. Not healthy or clean. Litter box is great but they don't use them in the summer...in my case anyway.
thanks for sharing.
Karen here. Alot of Homesteading families have lots of children. Can you help us understand why? Returning to agricultural lifestyle of years gone by? Religion? Going back to an Amish lifestyle? Help us understand. Seems like a lot of work. You all work so hard.
Great question
We had a lot of kids in a small suburban home when schools shut down in 2020. We moved to 10 acres partly for the benefit of the kids. So many suburban/urban problems disappeared when they had enough room to run and enjoy being outside and raising animals. So much of the toxic views of children are a direct result of toxic city culture. They truly are a gift and a blessing in our lives.
I cannot speak for anyone but myself. My husband and I decided to let god determine our family size....
Meg's first two are identical twins so I am thinking this is pregnancy number 5.