The Montreal Screwjob 20th Anniversary | Shawn Michaels vs Bret Hart | WWE Survivor Series 1997
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- It's been 20 years. Wow.
Here is my latest This Day In History episode chronicling the events of the Montreal Screwjob and Survivor Series 1997.
I'll give my opinions and thoughts on the situation as well as discuss the circumstances leading up to the Bret Hart vs HBK match, the fallout internally in WWE, the rumors of it being a work, WWE's and WCW's future following the incident, Bret Hart and Vince McMahon's reconciliation, and even some "what if" scenarios. All that and a lot more in this historic episode.
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GoodMicWork Commentaries it was a significant
Thank You
What a great video GMW, listened to the whole thing in one go. It's amazing that all that was from memory as well, just great to listen to all you're thoughts on this.
As always, thanks Greg
18:27 oh my God what a great point... That music played immediately....
I feel old now thinking about this.
I know the feeling. I was a high school senior then. Now, I’m 40 with 2 kids and I’m still watching and listening to pro wrestling. That’s life. I guess...
@@nickchislom9499 well, its worth trying to educate your kids to what good wrestling used to be instead of what they watch nowadays..
i was 17 years old.. wow! i kinda remember hearing about it that monday morning in class what happened
Fond memories of this day... It's also my birthday
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I was just over five months old when this happened haha 😂
Lucky U. I was a senior in high school...😐
I was 11... And i still remember to this day how heart broken I was, because this was when the business was exposed to me and I found out wrestling was a work.
I was 15 and a freshman in high school, I had a similar epiphany. I mean I knew that it was scripted and stuff, but after seeing and hearing about the screwjob, I knew it was just some kind of a send off, while all the other kids thought it was real.
But then again I watched ECW on Sunshine Network in Junior High, soooooo.....
+Soul of Joelsuf like I said I was 11 so I still had on kid glasses. Then it's like what just happened? Vince screwed Bret oh wow they gonna fight? Wait why did he do WCW? What's going on...
I had a friend whose older brother read the dirt sheets and was like yeah he was leaving and didn't want to lose. What do you mean he didn't want to lose? No one wants to lose. No tony it's scripted he was supposed to lose but didn't want to... Wait what... I was heart broken no pun intended when he smartened me up
The match was great and very underrrated. It perfectly exhibited the tension between the 2 wrestlers at the time. They didn't like each other and wanted to beat the crap out of each other. It's called telling a story in the ring. That's the problem with today's wrestling and fans. They just want high spots and a gymnastics competition, rinse and repeat and that supposedly makes a great match. That's why wrestling is terrible today. All mechanical and no psychology.
Yosemite Dan but still it was legit
I agree, the intensity between the 2 was on full force. They were laying in hits, it was great, and you can just feel the hatrid they had for each other.
I was 17 in my senior year in high school talking about the Montreal Screwjob with my classmates
This was the second PPV I ever caught live. When the incident occurred I didn't know what was going on at first so I thought nothing of it. Little did I know that i just witnessed one of the most controversial moments in wrestling history.
I️ remember HBK in 05 or 06 (believe it was during the Hogan feud) being in Montreal doing a promo on Raw. And holy shit, the booos that came from the crowd that night. And then the tease of Brett Hart’s music and then we received the loudest pop from that crowd. I️ can’t remember another segment where we heard probably the loudest boos and the loudest pop ever all in the same segment.
Jordan Karg it was significant, segment
If only Bret would've came out that night that would've been perfect
The fans were ready to riot. HBK might not have made it out unscathed that night.
Hellraiser Gordon it is
And HBK knew he was going to get that heat and since was already the heel in the feud with Hogan, he played into that and proved he could still be that prick on - screen. 'Who's your Daddy , Montreal?' is an all-time great promo.
The month I was born the screw job happened
Another question Greg, who queued the camera to show a close up of Bret’s face after the loss?
grims4ever a documentary
goodvideo
Bret Hart is the goat
I think people believe it was a work because of how it played out with the McMahon character but I think that was just an unintentional consequence. It worked out no doubt but I don’t think that was ever thought of until the aftermath. It’s way too intricate to plan out anticipating the outcome that came of it. Which just happened to work out perfectly.
Thats why it isnt a work. Everything about this was unintentional. WCW was on top, they had a hot angle ready to blow the next month plus Bret coming.
I was 19 when this went down.. Vince was hated by the world
Thanks for making such an in depth video on one of the most important moments for pro wrestling, Bret was my favorite when I was a kid I was so mad what they did to him I completely stopped watching wrestling, Bret was my guy but I wasn’t gonna watch him on wcw cause fuck those guys and the sorry ass nwo.
Sad part about this is that Hart deeply regrets being in WCW, and is one of the reasons he retired early. Really sucks that happened, cuz he would have been amazing after WCW shut down. He would have offered quite a bit in 2001-2002. Can you imagine if they had a match five years later, at Series 2002? In the first elimination chamber match?
Soul of Joelsuf Bret did'nt fit in the quality of the match in a physical way
small correction. they fought before king of the ring backstage, not after. In fact, it led to a match between them at that show being scrapped.
No, it was the night after in Hartford. Both guys were sent home. I promise:)
The match was scrapped because Bret was still hurt. I remember it like it was yesterday.
I stand corrected. I always thought this was before but guess not. Mea culpa.
GoodMicWork Commentaries it was taped before king of the ring
They never taped post-PPV episodes of RAW. Those were always live. The fight took place in the locker room before the show aired. Shawn stormed out and "quit" and wouldnt return for several weeks. If the fight took place before Shawn would have never wrestled Austin at KOR. This is the way it went down I PROMISE YOU.
GoodMicWork Commentaries ok then why it aired live before the actual King of the Ring that Took place
Too this day people say it was work others say it was legit. My opinion on it is Bret likely refused too do business and Vince and company had no choice and it changed things from then on
I had AOL then.. The internet was a thing then
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This is the most significant this day in wrestling history video, survivor series 1997 was significant espacially the main event 20 years ago that took place, Bret should have forfeit the belt the next night, a DQ was supposed to happend as the finish of the match not Shawn applied the Sharpshooter on Bret, The Monday Night Wars was always a competition of witch is company is going down, but Bret had return the year prior just to face Austin to put him on the map, but WWE did horrible shit to Bret throughout the year 1997 behind the scènes, Vince was a business man to fuck people over, Bret should have retire in the WWE in the attitude era, It was the most significant year in the 90's
i was 4 years old
Wrestling Fans Nation in 1997 ? I was also 4 years ago
>*Especially*
TheLegendkiller2100 I was only 16 years old at the time. I was a causal fan then, I didn't understand the whole Montreal Screwjob incident, because I thought it was part the show, I found out the whole situation in 1998 when I got invested in pro wrestling and got into the Attitude era, I do remember being confused why Bret hart was on Wcw. But wwe at the time was on a row and so popular, stone cold and Vince McMahon feud was awesome and the rock and Mick Foley....wwe was on fire after Bret left, the Attitude era was huge and ratings skyrocketed to record breaking ratings and wwe was experiencing there new Golden Era.
June giovani it work well but WWE was struggling of financial problems
I was literally the only one happy when the screw job happened, cuz I was a Shawn Michaels fan. Then again I was like 4
Bret droppng the title to Austin at WM14 would have made much more sense storylinewise. After all, why did Vince (in kayfabe) oppose Austin so much: because of his bad manners, drinking, finger, cursing. But why did McMahon oppose this in Austin but not in the preceding champion, Shawn Michaels, who had just as bad manners at the time, cursing and crotch chopping. Vince's revulsion would have made more sense if Austing had succeeded Bret. The thing is, of course, that the whole matter was not planned a the Screwjob was real.
st r it depends how WWE will make that match how the Monday Night Wars would have been ?
The screwjob was a work bro. All of the evidence suggests that
@Alex Kanyima - worked out really perfectly for it not to be. Even Earl Hebner has says it might have been a work now, and he was in the ring
@Alex Kanyima - And wrestlers act hurt when they take moves, and act shocked at revelations. It doesn't mean they are. It's called acting.
@Alex Kanyima - but it could be
When's your next live Q n A?
Man, look at it today. Just a few days ago, if wwe has had many matches switched up for this year ss, like aj winning the title and all of a sudden he faces brock, then bret shouldve just had dropped it to taker and make a no complete sense match there
I wholy agree that the idea to forfeit the title on Raw. But, yes, Vince created the whole situation and ended up solving it in a very disgusting way. Bret even suggested jobbing to Steve Lombardi - so it is not like he shot everything down. I really doubt your theory that Bret went in thinking, 'oh if I get screwed, I'll just call the media'. Had this been a work, it would have been revealed when Owen died. The DVD they did was really a letdown. They completely avoid Michaels' drug issues - I think that played a big part in his and Bret's rivalry.
IT was a work bro. It wasn't disgusting at all, it was amazing.
shane mcmahon cue'd the music, he was bk there in the truck
knowledgeisthepower1 are you sure ?
No it was Jim Johnson
Why the hate on wcw?
Greg. I would have to admit that your prospective on this was one that I never thought or heard of before. Old man Vince did paint himself in a corner. Get Bret to drop the belt 1st. Then lower the boom on Hart that he doesn’t want him around anymore. No belt. No Bret. Problem solved.
The screwjob was a work bro
people who still believes this was a " work " still believes in dragons & harry potter
Anthony Rodriguez so obvious, they don't know
no, it just looks exactly like a work. Even the announcers the entire match are talking about Vince being there. Patterson gets hit by Shawn even. The two guys were well aware that Vince was there and if it wasn't a work that would have been strange as hell.
From day 1 I've always thought this was a work. everything about it feels like a work. So I'm really glad people are starting to catch onto that more and more now with even wrestlers coming out and saying they feel it's a work too.
You guys realize if Bret stayed on that contract he would have finished it maybe a couple of months ago lol 😂😂😂
"I will probably talk about the Survivor Series one final time"
Five years later: czcams.com/video/E5EG_r100uI/video.html
(Teasing with love.)
I always wondered why Bret "let" Shawn put him in The Sharpshooter. If I were Bret and they restarted the match, I would have assumed, right there, that they were up to something.
Chris Andrade it was not a swerve at all
that was not the first time bret let somebody put him in his own hold
540allison when ?
how bout owen hart for starters
And it's clear he let him because bret helps him get the position of the legs right
Was born a few months after this, but I definitely understand vinces side of the story
There is no vince's side, because the Screwjob was a work. It was part of the show
Bret remains my favourite of all time to this day but at the end of that day Vince is THE BOSS and you DO what the boss tells you. Bret should have dropped the belt to Shawn end of story - Yes Shawn was guilty of refusing to do jobs etc but that was Shawn. The minute Bret started to do the same he became no better than him
Corporate fascism rearing its ugly head again. Actually, it is you do your job or leave. The job is defined by the contract, which gave Bret "reasonable creative control" on his way out. Bret was in the right, Vince in the wrong.
Ah, and doing it once (when you are entitled to) regarding one of the worst offenders makes one "no better" than this worst offender...
It was a work, so he did drop it to him
Shane Mcmahon was in the production truck and told them to hit the music. Kevin Dunn may have been told beforehand too.
He was not in the truck
www.dailymotion.com/video/x31qbr
{Backstage Footage After The Match}
Kevin Dunn
I disagree with one thing, I think Vince knew he was the heel in the interview. Kevin Kelly said that the two weeks was chaotic, but once the interview happened he knew they were going to be okay. You do not talk about lawsuits, getting assaulted, and blaming the victim without knowing you are the heel.
It was real!
One of the greatest works of all time.
Nathan Mackay bullshit it was not a work
Nathan Mackay the greatest work of all time
Gerell Fowler wrong
Single greatest work in pro wrestling history.
wasnt a work
By the way, after working a bit in really small wrestling shows, I believe that it was a work. If it was not a work, Hart would either not have showed up (had no incentive to if he was leaving the next day), or he would have not worked properly. I witnessed a match similar to this, it turned into a legit shoot fight, and authorities were called. No one's music played, nothing. Fans were escorted out of the building.
This for certain would have happened if it was not a work, ESPECIALLY with how much Hart (and many others) hated Michaels at the time. It would have been way, WAY worse.
What was NOT a work, however, was how Hart felt betrayed by WWE and how he just disliked being in wrestling. Look at his performances after his match with Austin at Mania 13. None of them are really that great for Hart standards. He actively disliked wrestling for most of 1997.
Soul of Joelsuf bullshit,
I wanna see legend's house with Bret Hart and Hunter as house residents. Throw in taker and stone cold... Why not add Goldberg, DDP, and Shawn Michaels too
Just wanted to add that bret did say to shawn that he would drop it to him & lets move on but hbk told him thx but letting u know i will never drop it 2 u!! After that bret new he couldnt drop it to him now, they have both confirmed this
20 years since i found out wrestling was scripted.
9:32 wtf haha
So true
Do you know why Shawns theme automatically played?? Because it was a work, everyone was in on it and its pro wrestling's best kept secret. The greastest angle in wrestling history
Yeah I always thought it was a work too, but Hart was legitimately bitter. That was real, and you can see it in his very lackluster WCW performances.
shawn's music played because shane mcmahon was in the truck and told the guys to play the music
knowledgeisthepower1 but why ?
Pritchard knew
It was Jim Johnson
im the best there was the best there is and the best there ever will be
Jim johnson
It remains the most shocking memory when I became a wrestling fan. Let me know that Vince McMahon would build his fortune on the blood and broken bodies of his wrestlers and didn't care who he killed along the way
Pritchard said he knew on his podcast
Ramon Leclerc No he didn’t neither did Taker
Honestly, Bret really did screw Bret.
tvTOON fuck you
vince is in a process of building a platform for attitude era , for which bret hart is not suitable , this era introduced lust & people also started enjoying the betrayels, backstabbing etc ,, even ken shamrock was also treated in the same way like bret in the attitude era ,,, some seniors like undertaker are smart enough to sustain in the dx dominated era by staying away from limelight when dx is at peaks ...even chyna tranformed herself to suit the attitude era .... along with fighting skills , the mic skill is also required but bret do not have that ....
mahesh fan Bret could have easily fit in the attitude era
Why should Bret not have been suitable for the Attitude Era. For starters, he was around when the thing evolved in 1997 in actually a central role. Then, the AE had several characters that actually opposed what it stood for, e.g. Dustin Runnels in 1998 and later RTC. Bret could have been that man, only on a much higher level. Finally, Bret being bad on the mic is a myth: he was good when he had something to say - different from The Rock who was great though he mostly had nothing to say...
st r Bret is a veteran so having good matches before he retired has to be significant
Benoit Screw Benoit