Dengfu E10 - Initial walkthrough & Comparison to E22
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- čas přidán 30. 04. 2022
- We take a look around the Dengfu E10v1.
initial observations and impressions, in anticipation of the comparison between the Dengfu E22 & Dengfu E10.
The walkthrough highlights subtle differences and similarities between each bike.
Huge shout out to everyone who has contributed towards the development of this build.
Be sure to keep a watchful eye on upcoming content.
until then, take it easy ✌🏿
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For information on the Dengfu E22, please visit the Dengfu E22 Frame Thread @ www.emtbforums.com/community/...
For more information on the Dengfu E10, please visit Dengfu E10 - The Cheeb V1.0 Discussion thread @ www.emtbforums.com/community/...
visit GBK (Green Bike Kit) for your bafang motor requirements, spares and accessories @ www.greenbikekit.com/
Visit Superstar Components for the Slackerizer headset @ www.superstarcomponents.com/e...
visit Carbon Cycle on ebay.uk for Dengfu E10, E22 and more @ ebay.co.uk/usr/carbon-cycle
Great video Neeko, thanx for sharing this review!
Thanks Neeko. Useful information 👍
Awesome setup.
Thanks dude. I may reevaluate my tyre choice but it'll do 👍🏿
Looks great that
It's not bad.
Upon reflection, this is the longest travel bafang powered emtb I've ever ridden (& built 😅). So I'll be sure to put this rig to the test in due course.
Appreciate the comment Ant 👍🏿
I just bought the Luna X2 with the 2000 watt controller. I put carbon, tubeless wheels on it and love it. Goes anywhere. It just made more sense to fork out the money me being in the USA.
Fair play dude.
Luna cycles have contributed heavily in terms of advancing bafang motors. I have no doubt the Luna x2 with your upgrades will serve you well.
Thanks for your comment 👍🏿
hello Larry, currently I can choose between 2 used ebikes, 1. Norco sight lvt c1 2019 carbon frame or 2. 2018 luna x-1, luna is a bit ($500) cheaper than norco, but what would you choose between those 2? I think norco is a premium brand but since I'm 28 years old and have mever rode an ebike, which should I purchase?
@@gastonlozano4162 I bought the Luna x2 with the 3000 watt upgrade and I love it. Comes with Rock shox fork and I love it. Not much difference between the X1 and X2
@@LarryRichelli I have the Luna X2 Ludi as well and I believe it has up to 2500 peak watts. No complaints other than if you turn the motor completely off, it becomes hard to peddle if you aren't riding exclusively downhill.
@@neekodevinchi Neeko. Do you know if anyone sells dengfu E10 down tube batteries higher than 48v 17.5 ah?
Looking forward to your upcoming video. Got quoted $600 for shipping an E10 to the UK. 'taxes' included, but probably just marked down and they pocket the rest
Where did you order your E10 frame from?
I know its alot to get them shipped from China. But it shouldn't cost more than £250ish for either the E10 or E22.
I'll be sure to shoot, edit and upload shortly 👍🏿
@@neekodevinchi Any ideas where to source an E10 frame? Been looking and struggling to find 'em....poor google-fu I guess..
www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203873158867?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=iH5hH8IVQ5S&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=PmmsWrroSm6&var=504331476078&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Not too sure if the above link will work but this is the Frameset for the E10 on Ebay.uk using Carbon Cycle 👍🏿
@@neekodevinchi Ah, thanks dude - I had spotted these, but with no mention of Dengfu I'd assumed they were unbranded knock-offs. Right, here we do.. :)
Taxes have always been a scam my friend that's why we started a new country. Unfortunately the taxation mindset has taken hold here as well
Would you recommend the Dengfu E10 for girl riders compared to the E22 due to the weight? I'd welcome your opinion Neeko xx
I'll be honest with you Lysh, this is technically the 2nd E10 I've built. The first one was for a female rider who she still rides it and loves it. Granted, mine is spec'd differently (and is an xl frame size compared to the medium I built originally). But I would definitely say that the E10 is not a gender specific ebike. It Is approachable to alot of riders.
I'll go into more detail in upcoming videos.
Appreciate the comment 👍🏿
Good evening Neeko, as usual great video brother,
I got to say I love the Dangfu frame styles, just wondering what was the overall head tube angle on this bike ?
I've noticed lots of companies Now using both E 10 plus e22 frame Style. Which I believe is good for the industry for they are good quality. Thank you in advance
Cheers Pro Street 👍🏿
I'll go into detail concerning the geometry of the Dengfu E10 and E22 in the comparison video.
I've also noticed alot of companies are using these frames to bolster their existing lineup of ebikes. In addition, some companies have been able to improve certain components which further highlights the versatility of each frame.
I'll be looking into the numerous ways which potential buyers could look to enhance their experience and enjoyment per frame.
Appreciate the comment.
@@neekodevinchi thank you brother
I have an E10 on its way to me. Can you tell me what size shock I need to run the designed 150mm rear travel? Thank you and I look forward to future videos.
Sincere apologies for the delay. The E10 uses a 210x55 rear shock to achieve 150mm of travel 👍🏿
Hii Neeko, i have to order a E10 or a E22 soon. If you could choose, what would you recommend? Its for more for singletracks and fast routes in the forest. I know you will make a video of the comparison, bit it will be too late for me i think. Thank you in advance.
Sincere apologies for the delay Frits.
Initial observations between the two reveals that the E22 is more supple and provides better traction at high speed on choppy sections of trails without sapping speed.
The E10 (being lighter), is able to accelerate quicker and can perform quicker line corrections, to ensure that you pick the line best suited to get you through any obstacle you encounter.
Regarding slow technical manoeuvres, I am leaning towards the E22. Although, this could be due to the motor tune as I find the M620 motor more intuitive compared to either the M500/M600 (early days on the M510).
Hope this somewhat helps but I'll be sure to elaborate on the above when the video publishes 👍🏿
@@neekodevinchi Thank you very much. Really appreciate your detailed answer. This will definitely help!
Interesting video. Despite my quick search, including your link, I can't find a Dengfu E10 or E22. I bought the Dengfu E05 which seems to match the 29er bike on the ebay "carbon-cycle". I bought mine directly from Dengfu since I'm a Brit living in Mongolia, next door to China. Although we don't have any laws about speed limits, my bike is limited to 45 km/h.
I'm really happy with mine except I broke the SRAM eagle SX rear derailleur which is probably not the bike's fault. Waiting for replacement parts now from the UK.
I've heard good things about the E05 frame. I haven't yet built mine up. But hearing your testimony makes me more eager to build mine up.
If you're interested in the E10, E22 or future Framesets from Dengfu which I'll be featuring on the channel, I'll do my utmost to ensure reliable methods to easily source the framesets across the globe.
Thanks for your comment 👍🏿
@@neekodevinchi My Dengfu E05 seems like a fantastic eMTB but I didn't have anything to compare it to. The famous western brands are very rare in Mongolia due to high price. I've owned standard mountain bikes in the past but eMTB's are totally different.
Just for comparison's sake, I paid £2600 for mine with SRAM eagle components which was an upgrade from SRIDE components. The component choices are quite premium, as far as I can tell but I'm not an expert.
The suspension travel is "only" 120mm but it's fine for my purposes.
Hi, to use this shock, 210x60, do you have to change something on the frame? Frame comes with bushings for shock? Awesome build, Im buying one and will build something similar. Thx!
Hi there,
No, you don't need to use ofset bushes. You can use the standard shock bushes which come supplied. The shock bushes supplied are meant to be used with Rockshox rear shocks.
Hope this helps and thanks for your comment 👍🏿
@@neekodevinchi Thx a lot! Excited to see the comparison between e10 and e22! Still haven't finalized the purchase with Dengfu, depending on your review I buy the e22 (at first it would be the e10)
@@neekodevinchi By the way, do you think m620 is better than m600?
I'll let you know once I'm finished playing around with the firmware of the M600. I'll say this, its different!!😅
Will you be doing a side by side comparison with the e22
Yes. In addition, you'll see first hand how they ride in a wide range of terrain and conditions.
Climbing, descending, tight switchback, jumping etc.
Keep a watchful eye on upcoming content and thanks for the comment 👍🏿
Im in the market for my first ebike, im looking at denfu e55 with m620 motor, do you think thos would be a good start ? Not sure to do economic model or professional?
Personally, I usually build from the frame up. But I'd chose the economical E55 (which is cheaper). And overtime, upgrade👍🏿
How much did the entire build cost? I totally agree with you about your openness about voiding the warranty. Too many people want to have their cake and eat it without paying the consequences of the bill!
Non too keen on carbon frame bikes!
Using the spare parts I had lying around (Lyrik RC 180MM fork & spare WTB wheelset), this build cost me just under £2100.
It is worth mentioning similar to the E22, Carbon Cycle did give me a discount and some of the components I'm running reflects the price (brakes, drivetrain, tyres).
But the bike is trail ready so I can atleast become familiar with the platform.
I'll be sure to go into detail as to how others can build a similar spec bike & keep costs down without resorting to using the second hand market.
Apologies for the delay John and thanks for the comment 👍🏿
I have a size question. I am 191cm with inside leg of 89cm. I think similar to you? What frame size do you have? I am looking at the E14 frame but they don't go beyond 19". 🙁
Hi there,
This is the E10. The seat tube length on my xl is 21" and my inside leg measures at 89cm as well. I use a 210 one up dropper seatpost which is inserted into the seat tube and it fits perfectly. I am 6foot 3inches (190cm). The reach is 510mm. I would recommend an xl frame for your rider height.
Thanks for your comment 👍🏿
Do you recommend the 19" or the 21" for a 6' tall rider?
Apologies for the delay Zack.
For your height, you could fit either frame size.
19" if you prefer the bike to be more nimble.
21" if you prefer the bike to be more stable and planted.
Naturally subject to how you build one up, will also determine how the bike handles and feels as well.
Hope this helps and thanks for your comment 👍🏿
how would you reccomend me to purchase between luna x1,x2 or any dengfu model? I HAVE NEVER RODE AN EBIKE but I want to go far, steep uphill, enjoy some inaccesible places, and also achive a large distance in considerable low time. which one do you reckon is best for me, luna or beefang, I live in mexico, so I think that this eographic situation needs to be taken into consideration. thanks a lot.
Hi there,
Its difficult for me to take the Mexican trail terrain into consideration (I've never been but would love to someday 😷).
In your circumstances, I would say that either the E10 (Luna x2) or E22 (Luna Z1) would be suitable.
However, what makes the two bikes different would be the way a rider engages with the overall platforms. The E10 is more active "keeps you on your toes". Whereas the E22 is more carefree and burly "it doesn't get phased by the technical/hardcore terrain".
Let me know if you're struggling to find your correct frame size and hopefully this helps 👍🏿
@@neekodevinchi same as california lets say, which one do you recomend me most from the two brands? thanks
@@gastonlozano4162 e22
Hi Neeko. I am 185cm and I am exactly between the sizes 19" and 21" on Dengfu E10. Which one would you recommend to get?
Personally, I've always been a big believer that its easier to shrink/shorten a bigger/longer bike compared to lengthening a smaller bike.
At 6foot, you could go with either the Large or X-large.
You may find the reach of 510mm on the XL a bit long, especially if you prefer something like 485mm for a large.
Some of my riding friends who have rode my XL E10s who are roughly your height, prefer the stability of a longer frame. Others, prefer a shorter/flickable frame.
It does depend on your preferences as well as how you choose to build them up 👍🏿
@@neekodevinchi Thanks buddy, so I am still not sure what I want 😅.
@@neekodevinchi how tall are you? How do you feel on your XL frame?
Is the E10 cheaper than the E22?
Looked online and the E10 is £200/£300 cheaper than the E22.
Can't wait for the comparison video between the two 🤙🏽
Thanks for the comment 👍🏿
I guess it depends on whether you buy a complete ebike build or buy a frame only option and build it up.
I've never been the kind of person to believe that the initial price of an ebike reflects the totality of how much you could ultimately pay.
I'll go into detail about this in upcoming videos.
Anyone want to ship this frame to me in the US? lol They dont sell it here and I really want to build on this frame
Tip, Dengfu can ship it to any Bordertown in Mexico (no restrictions) for me its just a 3 hr drive from SA Texas and I can pick it up at a Friend's address .... taxes/import fees may be cheaper (waiting for quotes from Dengfu)
Frames crack easily not for trail jumping