WATCH: LOADED LUX vs GEECHI GOTTI with ILLMAC & LUSH ONE

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  • @SaxlRose
    @SaxlRose Před 2 lety +366

    It’s cool to know that right now… someone else aside from me is watching 3 dudes watch battle rap. Bless😂💯

  • @ajfam871
    @ajfam871 Před rokem +41

    BOOKMARK 🚨👍🚨👍🚨
    GEECHI GOTTI vs LOADED LUX
    RD 1: 32:11 / 46:00
    RD 2: 1:13:29 / 1:29:30
    RD 3: 1:45:10 / 2:06:17

  • @lebrandon6555
    @lebrandon6555 Před 2 lety +23

    “I can sense it. His panics. Feel like I’m battling Cortez.”

  • @edwardpolenzani1039
    @edwardpolenzani1039 Před 2 lety +37

    I’m so glad Illmac made that point about references just for the sake of references. I’ve been thinking that for so long and someone else finally said it! Lol. The thing is, Lux is USUALLY really good at tying all his points together. But it didn’t show as much in this battle. I think the best example of Lux keeping his wordplay concise was against Clips. All three of those rounds built on each other concluding with the paperwork shit

    • @strangekitchenappliances2314
      @strangekitchenappliances2314 Před 2 lety +11

      Yes bro, and people sleep on lux’s performance against clips so much and will say shit like “lux hasn’t been good since the hollow battle”. Like I’ll admit I don’t care for him against ars or mook but he had classic rounds against verb clips and surf

    • @edwardpolenzani1039
      @edwardpolenzani1039 Před 2 lety +3

      @@strangekitchenappliances2314 his Clips battle is one of my favorites honestly

    • @LetterBeginning
      @LetterBeginning Před 6 měsíci

      Illmac & lush are white men trying to downplay New York battle rap.

    • @LeoNguyenex
      @LeoNguyenex Před 2 měsíci

      @@LetterBeginningillmac is not even white you doofus

  • @Doepesci
    @Doepesci Před 11 měsíci +10

    This show is amazing. Makes the battles way more enjoyable. Love hearing the break downs from legends. Salute !

  • @thasco
    @thasco Před 2 lety +13

    This was a great watch. Will watch again..

  • @jamaicandondada9024
    @jamaicandondada9024 Před 2 lety +42

    that breakdown from Lush at around 2:13:00 was beautiful, more people need to hear it.

    • @yaboi5047
      @yaboi5047 Před rokem +3

      Thanks for that timestamp, was cool to jump right into mans bringing planet rock vs canon in d major :)

    • @LetterBeginning
      @LetterBeginning Před 6 měsíci

      That breakdown was trash.

  • @MikeDrayton91
    @MikeDrayton91 Před 2 lety +24

    Really dug this breakdown of how different Lux and Geechi are.
    Lush going into hiding behind "tricks" was a really solid gem. Skill varies in battle rap but efficiency is that true mark.

  • @Scott42069
    @Scott42069 Před 2 lety +11

    Dope to see geechis evolution. From the old watch videos to now.
    Inspirational ⭐️

  • @skylerperkins94
    @skylerperkins94 Před 2 lety +40

    Ya'll skipped it but Lux unleashes in this sequence: "I want you to see how I'm comin across like a flood warning advisory notice... you already dead to be knowledge opposin... ya'll got to wake up, he boppin to loaded, you might not get this event till later, like every bed in the hospital Covid." But there's a discipline to his energy, doesn't fire away, but it's definitely raw.

    • @Wobbothe3rd
      @Wobbothe3rd Před 2 lety +1

      That's not good writing.

    • @yessir640
      @yessir640 Před 2 lety +8

      @@Wobbothe3rd I'd love to see your writing

    • @p215j
      @p215j Před 2 lety +9

      @@Wobbothe3rd Troll! Phenomenal writing

    • @vapaperboi
      @vapaperboi Před 2 lety

      See..I love the writing..but I hate hearing that...what is dead to be knowledge opposin..who says opposin in daily conversatios

    • @yessir640
      @yessir640 Před 2 lety +9

      @@vapaperboi Average American has a 6th Grade Reading Comprehension level so I'm not Surprised

  • @edwardpolenzani1039
    @edwardpolenzani1039 Před 2 lety +68

    Lux’s material In the second was dope as hell. Those stumbles, while slight, add up tho. It took all the momentum away.

    • @LanceG007
      @LanceG007 Před 2 lety +2

      Not really because it was at the end of the round,it was like math when he battled geechi stumbled at the end of his second but it was at the end

    • @edwardpolenzani1039
      @edwardpolenzani1039 Před 2 lety +4

      @@LanceG007 I’m of the opinion that it really doesn’t matter if it was at the beginning, middle, or the end. The momentum is taken away all the same. I could argue that it’s WORSE to stumble at the end for that very reason. You could stumble in the beginning but if you get it back and stick the landing you get recovery points more often than not. Imagine if Lux got thru those same schemes and patterns without the stumbles and how much doper it would be. It matters

    • @jmurdock8303
      @jmurdock8303 Před 2 lety

      But it was at the end and to me Lux had it by then

    • @jeffreyrent9532
      @jeffreyrent9532 Před 2 lety +2

      He full on choked, it’s edited

    • @jmurdock8303
      @jmurdock8303 Před 2 lety

      @@jeffreyrent9532 were you there ?

  • @VenomousStare
    @VenomousStare Před 2 lety +2

    Love the Watch series! Keep grinding Kyle!

  • @skeletalsounds_
    @skeletalsounds_ Před 3 měsíci +3

    Damn, as I’m rewatching all of these RYD episodes, it’s really an entertaining and intriguing examination of battle rap as a whole. Love it, thanks again 🥑 As for this battle - This LONG BEACH crowd was amazing. They were truly listening to both emcees.

  • @marcamalia4136
    @marcamalia4136 Před 2 lety +70

    Geechi the best one dimensional battle rapper of all time, respectfully

    • @caliber693
      @caliber693 Před 2 lety +18

      Nah, that's Bigg K. Bigg K and guns go together like chicken and hot sauce lmao.

    • @kaydub5.034
      @kaydub5.034 Před 2 lety +17

      @@caliber693 big k nowhere near as good as gotti

    • @caliber693
      @caliber693 Před 2 lety +14

      @@kaydub5.034 He's far nicer.

    • @onerealzay5371
      @onerealzay5371 Před 2 lety +1

      Nah he used to be but think he angle rebuttal he’s funny ash n he punch n talk real shit n a lot of people don’t do 2 of those things great plus sense 2020 geechi approaches for battles are amazing like as in subject matter because he’s proving you can win off of material n perception instead just just gun bar gun bar gun bar n punches he’s like super direct because geechi is no where near the best puncher but his material he’s punching about is super direct it makes people look weird if the round after his tho don’t address what he spoke on id say geechi is the greatest Battle rapper to have a basic pen when it comes to metaphors and similes a double and triple entendres cause if his punches was k shine or even Charlie clips level geechi would be almost unbeatable because he does do long set ups like geechi vs Ave n geechi vs k shine n him vs O red n surf are battles where his pen matched his opponent but now he’s better at everything except his actual punches

    • @looneygoon6514
      @looneygoon6514 Před 2 lety

      😂

  • @LordBeerusTheCreator
    @LordBeerusTheCreator Před 2 lety +2

    Great commentary, respect to Illmac and Avo!

  • @itsYAboyGoose
    @itsYAboyGoose Před 2 lety +7

    “Gilgamesh vs Ice Cube” is hillllllllarious Lush.
    The break down of this battle from these two makes for one of the most quality watch’s I’ve seen so far.

  • @youngjayo6881
    @youngjayo6881 Před 2 lety +49

    He started singing the Gullah Gullah island theme song Lmaoooooo
    Sidebar : Lux was very choppy this battle but his material was RIDICULOUS

    • @mike_datzmag1c21
      @mike_datzmag1c21 Před 2 lety +4

      And to add to this soon as he sung the song I immediately envisioned the family singing it, melody n all!memories 😂

    • @youngjayo6881
      @youngjayo6881 Před 2 lety +2

      @@mike_datzmag1c21 Lmao me too

    • @MCLogikILL
      @MCLogikILL Před 2 lety +1

      Shout out my man Binya Binya Pollywog

    • @marknesstorres276
      @marknesstorres276 Před 10 měsíci +1

      I believe in my opinion, Lux was reacting to the unreached. The crowd wasn't reacting the way he thought they should. Because he was clearly saying some intricate lines and bars. But because of no reaction from the crowd, as he believe he should get or receive. I see where his emotions get in and he pauses. Which takes away from the performance and battle.

    • @NoName-cz3wn
      @NoName-cz3wn Před 3 měsíci

      I don't think it was choppy. I think he was getting mad at the crowd

  • @longlivelogi
    @longlivelogi Před 2 lety +5

    one of my favorite battles of recent memory. geechi always doing his damn thang. always a good watch when you got lush and ill as guests too fr

  • @Uzasback
    @Uzasback Před 2 lety +59

    Subjectivity in battle rap is so dynamic…I watched this live and found Lux’s rounds and performance so much more captivating and was completely surprised when the general consensus after was that Geechi had a clear 30.

    • @ebinflo102
      @ebinflo102 Před 2 lety +16

      I still don’t see it that clear. I ain’t mad at Geechi 2-1 debatable but it really comes down to preference. 3-0 is a stretch for me cuz I prefer Lux material especially in the 1st … no denying that Geechi was more prepared and wanted it more, but if Lux hadn’t choked it’d be 2-1 either way.

    • @VenomousHigh
      @VenomousHigh Před 2 lety +9

      I don't think the consensus is a 30. Outside of a few battle rappers (Daylyt, Dizaster, some others) and a group of really loud fans who commented on every video covering the topic, most of the people I've seen speak on it said Lux got the first and Geechi got the other two. Shit, most of my friends off the internet who watch battle rap said it was 2-1 Geechi as well. The 3-0 thing is all narrative.

    • @mikeyplondon
      @mikeyplondon Před rokem +4

      I admit, I prefer Lux's rounds here too

    • @khaledalmerbati9570
      @khaledalmerbati9570 Před rokem +2

      ITS INSANE, LUX IS THE THINKING MAN’S BATTLER, I want to put it short

    • @jluchette
      @jluchette Před rokem +2

      @@khaledalmerbati9570 I’m a big Hollow fan, but when that battle dropped I was like “that Lux doesn’t really say anything angle was a bad decision.” Lux really does go over heads. And this watch is gonna be mad biased. Geechi is their man on Watch and he’s a west coast dude. In the building and on RYD Geechi was getting GASSED. Lux really is complex, and people try to frame that as a weakness. It’s not.

  • @itsYAboyGoose
    @itsYAboyGoose Před 2 lety +8

    Illmac just locking in and singing the gullah gullah island intro was 🔥🔥🔥 😂

  • @justinmorales1511
    @justinmorales1511 Před rokem +2

    Arguably the most incredible breakdowns I've ever seen on this channel . One of my favorite panels. But i do LOVE Geechi on the panel as well he's freaking hilarious

    • @kogrady2409
      @kogrady2409 Před rokem

      I love him but he’s usually quiet for most of it. He says great shit but I wish he would comment more.

    • @justinmorales1511
      @justinmorales1511 Před rokem +1

      @@kogrady2409 ive noticed him quite at times but other times he just kills me 🤣

  • @picassospajamas8078
    @picassospajamas8078 Před rokem +2

    First Watch I’ve seen since the DNA Tooth issue. Grateful this is still here. Not a big fan of the newer vids, need that pitch black room or else it isn’t a Watch. Hope you’re well, Avocado! Your videos have taught me so much about the art. Got me through college too.

  • @lizethwalker
    @lizethwalker Před 2 lety +33

    If you think Lux lost bc of the feel leave it at that, but don’t say he lost if you don’t understand everything his angles were about

    • @mylestonah_kruezeeznk8214
      @mylestonah_kruezeeznk8214 Před rokem

      Which rounds u give lux??

    • @kwill4107
      @kwill4107 Před 9 měsíci

      These rappers where biased they all from the West...Im definitely not saying Lux won but I can tell

    • @lizethwalker
      @lizethwalker Před 4 měsíci

      @@mylestonah_kruezeeznk82141st 2 but the 1st debateable
      Geechi 2nd talkin bout battle rappers getting paid more now didn’t hit for me bc Lux vs Calico a big reason battle rappers even started making more money Hollows round vs Lux was about Lux bein greedy making the contracts raise and Lux still be gettin bags today and Geechi didn’t have no bars in that round compared to Lux it jus hit bc he’s n la and was talkin money shit which makes sense in the arena but you break it down it ain’t a strong enough angle to have no bars w it

  • @philly289
    @philly289 Před 2 lety +29

    lux got 40k for arsonal in 2014. 8 years later it takes drake and caffeine for geechi to get that. That angle wasnt fire to me. If it wasnt ppl like lux pushing the boundaries of getting paid back then battlers like geechi wouldnt be gettting what theyre getting now

    • @LanceG007
      @LanceG007 Před 2 lety

      Lux got 75k for that battle because that’s how much Ars was gonna pay Mook

    • @kkswagg4833
      @kkswagg4833 Před 2 lety

      Exactly

    • @babalomakhaba3736
      @babalomakhaba3736 Před 2 lety +1

      I also did feel Geechi’s 2nd round it was not reaching.

    • @maxnazario4037
      @maxnazario4037 Před rokem +1

      same issue i had felt geechi second wasnt really directed at lux more about other battlers

    • @seandon3k
      @seandon3k Před rokem

      @@LanceG007insane. Make an above average salary for one battle

  • @Spgirl68
    @Spgirl68 Před 2 lety +2

    This might be my fave watch episode from an insight perspective ever

  • @dradmc7101
    @dradmc7101 Před 2 lety +1

    love this show. spitting game.

  • @NACYKABLYAT
    @NACYKABLYAT Před 2 lety +47

    None will ever agree on this propably but i still think that Lux vs Illmac in a small room setting would be the battle of the century.

    • @Mcfc2Rich
      @Mcfc2Rich Před 2 lety

      Has Mac quit BR now or?

    • @NACYKABLYAT
      @NACYKABLYAT Před 2 lety +5

      @@Mcfc2Rich Last year he made it clear he wasn't battling because he had a lot going on with his music and stuff, no idea what happens 2022.

    • @roachfatthenostalgist7535
      @roachfatthenostalgist7535 Před 2 lety +9

      I agree. Illmac is embarrassingly slept on.

    • @bigtrashgoat
      @bigtrashgoat Před 2 lety +2

      No.

    • @emmanuelmedina5535
      @emmanuelmedina5535 Před 2 lety +5

      Facts! As well as Iron vs Lux.

  • @ao_qd
    @ao_qd Před 2 lety +31

    That rant towards the end about simplicity of the message versus lyrical complexity is spot on. It seems like a lot of people forget (or don't realize) that simplifying your writing to concisely convey a message is incredibly difficult and can require a sort of complexity!

    • @AuRevoirTune
      @AuRevoirTune Před 2 lety +15

      Except it's an argument in bad faith. We're talking about Lux, not complex vs simple. To act like Lux is ever up there just rapping random complex material is wild.

    • @bringinthedope5929
      @bringinthedope5929 Před 2 lety +1

      Agreed, that point is valid in general to me.

    • @LanceG007
      @LanceG007 Před 2 lety +1

      There’s no complexity in that at all

    • @jmurdock8303
      @jmurdock8303 Před 2 lety +1

      I love how regardless win or lose this battle is making fans think again

    • @kennylewis722
      @kennylewis722 Před rokem +1

      @@AuRevoirTune Lux had a few moments in there but they said they weren’t specifically speaking on him

  • @mike_datzmag1c21
    @mike_datzmag1c21 Před 2 lety +11

    Like Ill Mac, I LAUGHED when Lux said that as well 😂😂😂 “AL!”……”HEY MAN..” 2:20:31 - 2:20:37

  • @origamibulldoser1618
    @origamibulldoser1618 Před 2 lety +1

    That conversation about making complex concepts simple and not wasting time: information density.

  • @Antiinora
    @Antiinora Před rokem +4

    While I’m not new to battle rap, I’m new to RYD. This is golden. YOU are a gem. Never stop please. GOOOOOO

  • @SkinnyGriffin
    @SkinnyGriffin Před 2 lety +23

    Would be dope if you got a rewatch with geechi and lux

    • @josefsteiner9163
      @josefsteiner9163 Před rokem +2

      Since when have you seen Lux on ruin your day LMFAO he never goes up there

    • @PiranhaPiss
      @PiranhaPiss Před rokem +13

      @@josefsteiner9163 he literally did a watch of his battle against hollow with hollow and Geechi

  • @Hugo_Tate
    @Hugo_Tate Před 2 lety +13

    Two greats battling it out. Fuck yea

  • @dayko1329
    @dayko1329 Před rokem +3

    You can see that Lux writes his verses and then goes back and adds references inbetween, that's why he remembers it in different orders.

  • @ebinflo102
    @ebinflo102 Před 2 lety +63

    I guess I’m alone in this, and I know Geechi got the battle fairly clear just on preparation and energy alone … but, Lux material and pen was still incredible and despite the choking I think this battle was a lot closer than people say. It really was a mismatch and I think that’s the problem here.

    • @paullaney3339
      @paullaney3339 Před 2 lety +4

      I Agree 💯 It's definitely ALOT closer to me.

    • @DJKuroh
      @DJKuroh Před 2 lety +8

      For me it was a preference thing. A lot of Lux's bars, while super high level rap, could be for absolutely anyone. And I always think of what Hollow said: sometimes he needs to slow down just a tiny bit. Sometimes his raps feel like one long run on sentence.

    • @jmurdock8303
      @jmurdock8303 Před 2 lety +2

      Also Geechi has points on structure but what Gotti said to me was a bit of reaching angle wise and kinda false narratives.

    • @khaledalmerbati9570
      @khaledalmerbati9570 Před 2 lety +5

      I prefer Lux still

    • @AuRevoirTune
      @AuRevoirTune Před 2 lety +7

      @@DJKuroh Lux's material could be for anyone? What battle did you watch?

  • @Flowerz__
    @Flowerz__ Před 2 lety +3

    I love how lush is actually breaking shit down and giving insight into certain bars based on his knowledge.

  • @storm3685
    @storm3685 Před 2 lety +1

    Sidenote: There should be a pod that focus' primarily on battle rappers music... Love to be a part of that

    • @storm3685
      @storm3685 Před 2 lety

      R.U.D most original and best way to watch a battle other than just watching it without dialogue....I actually prefer it personally

  • @stranger21077
    @stranger21077 Před 2 lety +5

    Damn the og crew made a movie with this one

  • @AndreWilliams-er2dv
    @AndreWilliams-er2dv Před 10 měsíci

    The breakdown from ILL and Lush was definitely needed

  • @chapitoguzman1658
    @chapitoguzman1658 Před rokem +2

    I’m not gone lie I was debating watching this because I didn’t think I’ll mac and lush would make a good digestion of the battle but this was fire man glad I watched it all 💯

  • @Intelligent.E
    @Intelligent.E Před 2 lety

    Love the movement y’all gotta watch Twork vs snake midnight madness

  • @theproductniqqa
    @theproductniqqa Před 2 lety +8

    Avo was low key laughing at lush ramble tryna hold it in.

    • @lucrative6477
      @lucrative6477 Před 2 lety +4

      I’ve been in that same situation, your burnt friend trying to make a point but having zero clue what they are talking about.

    • @jluchette
      @jluchette Před rokem +1

      Lush is a battle rap encyclopedia. But the key to clear communication is brevity. If he could make his points more concisely I’d love him on Watch. But dude can’t keep it brief EVER.

  • @One_of_Gods_Warriors
    @One_of_Gods_Warriors Před 2 lety +6

    “Yea bitch cuz I made it that way”
    💀💀💀💀💀💀🔥 geechi is different

    • @Claimer_YT
      @Claimer_YT Před 2 lety

      Think about what u just said.. you make believing something's fire because of the imaginary persona Geechi represents... take away his Crip affiliation, it's mediocre.. everytime I here the word "bitch" from his mouth he sounds like a corn ball...

  • @Chris_..I..
    @Chris_..I.. Před 2 lety +11

    From the block to sharin the stage with Drake. Geechi has the Fastest ascent in BR 💪💯

  • @XxShadowGTxX
    @XxShadowGTxX Před 2 lety +1

    Love how Lux added his line from G.O.D at the end. Shit's potent.

  • @mbealhighjump
    @mbealhighjump Před 2 lety +32

    This battle is the 1st time Lux miscalculated his approach. When he says “You were expecting the grey hoodie, but you ain’t cold enough,” I know he really believed that. Lux should’ve structured the battle as following:
    1st Rd: Premise - My pen > Yours
    2nd Rd: Big Bro Geechi - Talk his pioneer shit
    3rd Rd: Grey Hoodie Mode and say some alike shit like “I spit conscious for the fans to enhance when they rewatch on cam but sometimes you just gotta talk to these niggas in a language they can innerstand” as the rd intro the pull out the hoodie.
    The problem is this stage was similar to a double impact. The lyrical content was off the charts but he needed to put on more of a show. Geechi’s content doesn’t compare, but he put on a show and as Avo stated this is a PERFORMANCE art.
    Illmac made a great point about how Lux should’ve approached the battle more deliberately stating the separation of pens as the narrative of the battle.

    • @AuRevoirTune
      @AuRevoirTune Před 2 lety +5

      What show does Geechi put on exactly? Nunu haymakers? Can't act like Geechi is outperforming Lux. Having hometown advantage doesn't equal performance.

    • @toreydshaun
      @toreydshaun Před 2 lety +11

      @@AuRevoirTune he definitely outperformed em. Had more moments and more haymakers. Used more current events and talked about topics everybody wanted to be spoken on. Lux tried to just be lyrical and lil loc Geechi. He literally made fun of gang bangin in LA… lol definitely coulda took a way better approach

    • @mbealhighjump
      @mbealhighjump Před 2 lety +10

      @@AuRevoirTune C’mon be an objective analyst. Geechi catered to the crowd and understood the setting. We all know Lux’s pen is greater than Geechi’s but Lux’s performance was subpar compared to other outings. His double impact battle w/ Hollow is a good example of how he should’ve structured his rounds for this battle.

    • @mr.uncleg5307
      @mr.uncleg5307 Před 2 lety +2

      Lux miscalculated his approach vs the Mook rematch as well. His performances vs Arsonal, 3rd vs Verb, and Charlie were also underwhelming.

    • @WhatThaFlocka
      @WhatThaFlocka Před 2 lety

      @@AuRevoirTune so lux can only cater to east coast crowds? He's supposed to be the goat tho lmaooooo

  • @NewEra2496
    @NewEra2496 Před 4 měsíci

    Fucking amazing commentary and discussion about battle rap on this one.

  • @TheInsideVideo
    @TheInsideVideo Před 2 lety +1

    Wow, is it my birthday? What a great Easter surprise!

  • @dasharyhassan9731
    @dasharyhassan9731 Před 2 lety +1

    “You look cool” Avocado took me out with that 😂😂😂

  • @NoName-cz3wn
    @NoName-cz3wn Před 2 lety +5

    Respect to Lush for not letting Geechi walk away with that "10k from Diddy" bar. If Lux vs Cal, Diz vs Canibus and Lux vs Hollow don't happen, Geechi Gotti is still Bay Loc out on the streets. You don't have to like it but it's facts

  • @shores444
    @shores444 Před 2 lety +6

    Was JUST watching old watches praying a new one would drop. Prayers answered 🙏

  • @amyc9155
    @amyc9155 Před 2 lety +4

    I end a vigil by myself 🙌🏻🙌🏻

  • @MAandS
    @MAandS Před 2 lety +4

    @56:00 on Beowolf: he was also rapping about his mom and the main antagonist/plot point In Beowolf is Grendal's mom.

  • @chrisptophu
    @chrisptophu Před 2 měsíci

    Lush’s impression of geechi’s angle “you’re clearly a fuckin basehead”🤣🤣🤣🤣facts gotti has such a great balance between angles and bars when he’s at his best

  • @ThexInsidexMan
    @ThexInsidexMan Před 2 lety +5

    MY MANS GOT THE MARTINELLIS OUT.
    The nectar of the gods right there! illmac 3-0 the beverage world

  • @antonmcguire4339
    @antonmcguire4339 Před 10 měsíci +1

    How are you able to use URL footage without them striking you? Just curious!

  • @senorquakes
    @senorquakes Před 2 lety +1

    thanks for the commentary. you guys are killin it. i was pretty dissappointed in this battle as a fan of both lux and geechi. they both had bars but honestly i tuned out around the second round and frankly i blame the crowd reaction. It feels like battle rap and big rooms just don't work anymore. They either have no energy like this battle or all gas and either way it makes it hard to pay attention.

  • @mauricesegar3626
    @mauricesegar3626 Před 2 lety +6

    I believe Lux dumbing it down for some crowd reaction.

  • @KingCooper06
    @KingCooper06 Před 2 lety +6

    Lush acting like he needed someone to tell him it's a "preference" to stop championing for Geechi this whole time is wild lol. This was the first time anyone has spent that much time trying to push a win one way for everyone instead of just saying why they thought one person win over the other TO THEM. Great dialogue from IllMac came from it though.

    • @kennylewis722
      @kennylewis722 Před rokem +2

      If that’s how you took it, you’re greatly mistaken. His whole point is do not give a win just because the intricacy of lyrics boosts ur ego

    • @KingCooper06
      @KingCooper06 Před rokem

      @@kennylewis722 ....lol that's actually just what you took from it not what he meant. they are having a specific conversation about geechi and lux and he's telling you why other people have lux winning and downplaying luxs style specifically. he's not making a general point about how complexity doesn't mean you won which is not even a good point because it matters what was said and how effective it was said which is the better point illmac was making.

    • @kennylewis722
      @kennylewis722 Před rokem

      @@KingCooper06 2:10:25 Ill and Lush are agreeing on the exact same thing. They are saying the same thing. Ill is literally saying all that complexity but wtf are you saying. What you say matters but it does not have to be super complex. He said Lux was fire too…

    • @KingCooper06
      @KingCooper06 Před rokem

      @@kennylewis722....he's agreeing to what illmac was saying like I said. Saying complexity doesn't win the battle isn't the same as actually explaining how complexity can be beneficial or detrimental. he also said people were pole polishers in the chat for saying lux won. I'm not gone rewatch the video to nail down exactly why i said this but he was definitely biased when discussing who won.

  • @streetfamm7134
    @streetfamm7134 Před 2 lety +3

    Y'all missed that "they don't plant trees in the arenas from lux that shit was fire"

  • @Warrigt
    @Warrigt Před rokem +4

    Lush = John Madden. Lot's of words, no substance.

  • @veemiyagimusic3892
    @veemiyagimusic3892 Před 2 lety +4

    The Surf/Wave/Hair scheme lux did in the 3rd was incredible.
    Cant lie, despite the 2nd rn choke and everybody saying lux lost clear, he had the most memorable material to me.
    Geechi had amazing material as well though, and won 2-1 to me, but much much closer than people think

    • @onerealzay5371
      @onerealzay5371 Před 2 lety

      I think why battle rappers n fans call it a body is because geechi was very direct and everything except the “lux being a crack head” was actually true and a lot of the true stuff that geechi said nullified the material that lux was using also geechi had most of his material about luc but lux material was everywhere with dry spots cause at first they was reacting but geechi sucked the energy out the room n naturally the fans would go with the hard hitting material they all would catch cause over time they after the first n half way into luc second the crowd was done like think geechi bonbin n talkin every like but lux follows up geechis direct round with a puzzle but none of that puzzle addressed geechis points he made

    • @LanceG007
      @LanceG007 Před 2 lety

      He didn’t choke in the 2nd

    • @veemiyagimusic3892
      @veemiyagimusic3892 Před 2 lety +1

      @@onerealzay5371 lux material was legit all about Geechi and a narrative/angle surrounding him. He was direct. The way he gets to his points is just not preferred over geechis approach. Geechi does less with words, and it benefits him when he faces an opponent that plays with words

  • @toma343
    @toma343 Před 7 měsíci

    The lux pause in R3 ok ok by me. The sheer amount of quality content by both is wildly impressive.

  • @DezziQ
    @DezziQ Před 2 lety +11

    Next day upload?! We are in a parallel universe

  • @kennethfocarino7075
    @kennethfocarino7075 Před 2 lety +5

    This was a wild breakdown of Lux. The one crucial element missing is scarcity. No matter what, a Lux battle is anticipated simply because it doesn’t happen often. There’s an added novelty to him and Mooks performances simply because there so rare. Not to say either are bad in any stretch, but it’s the quality that takes them from Great to Goat status. It’s honestly even more evidence that Geechi’s the Goat, because he doesn’t have the benefit of scarcity and is still compared to them.

    • @eyemeal
      @eyemeal Před 2 lety +1

      he has believability and simple double entendre in a hood way that relatable he sales it. But far as what he saying no he not the goat. He microwavable so he can battle everyday if he wanted. Him Charlie clips got that type style

    • @kennethfocarino7075
      @kennethfocarino7075 Před 2 lety +2

      @@eyemeal There’s a difference between microwave Charlie Clips and the efficiency of JC. He understands that no matter how crazy the word play, you need to have simple, great punches in-between to keep people engaged. You can’t bank on everybody wanting to go back and do the science, I love that shit, but it’s not fair to others that just want to be entertained. Daylyt does this perfectly. Day captures your attention with a good solid punch, then goes into his esoteric bag, and we appreciate and understand it more BECAUSE he’s retaining our engagement. And, if all else fails, and no one catches it, they still heard the good bar before it. Especially in the Geechi battle, Lux had too much space between his solid lines, that sometimes I just lose track of what he’s saying. Its so layered and dense, but for too long, and people don’t have time to absorb all of it in the moment. It’s not that it’s bad or filler, it’s just that Lux actively makes it difficult for people to follow him, and then he’s a genius somehow.

    • @kennethfocarino7075
      @kennethfocarino7075 Před 2 lety +5

      @@eyemeal also, it’s funny that Most of Lux’s most iconic bars (Harlem hospital, Halloween of it, Lux fully load the 9, quicksand,etc.) ARE his simplest bars lol.

    • @eyemeal
      @eyemeal Před 2 lety +2

      @@kennethfocarino7075 he not doing gun bars and all the filler you think he saying is really directed at his opponent and they great punches once you catch it

    • @elpatronesco6403
      @elpatronesco6403 Před rokem +2

      Geechi on the clips path, he only goated by some cause we used to him, but should he be scarce his return would he flat

  • @Sunshine-242
    @Sunshine-242 Před 2 lety +24

    I love Lux, I'm a Geechi fan as well....but Lux is more lyrical, Geechi is good at what he does...but he's simple and that's what matters in the room. People get him right away. With Lux, you have to pay close attention to what he's saying. Many probably won't get it at first. Complexity is good for small rooms, I don't think it comes across so well on the big stage🤷🏾‍♀️

    • @SlimShadyCypher
      @SlimShadyCypher Před 2 lety +6

      Lame excuse is lame. Lux lost. Y’all be using that word “lyrical” as a crutch for Lux.

    • @Rob91981
      @Rob91981 Před 2 lety +3

      @@SlimShadyCypher he never said lux won lol

    • @Rob91981
      @Rob91981 Před 2 lety +5

      @@SlimShadyCypher and it’s not a crutch that’s what rap is lyrics

    • @SlimShadyCypher
      @SlimShadyCypher Před 2 lety +6

      @@Rob91981 It is a crutch. Lux can rap really well, but Lux fans LOVE to take it overboard and come on CZcams everytime he has a close battle or loses and spew nonsense about how he was just too complex for the crowd and they didn’t get it
      No. We got it, it just wasn’t THAT good. Lux intricate bars aren’t actually always THAT good. Lux will never evolve himself as long as his fans accept even his most mediocre and unimpressive performances

    • @Claimer_YT
      @Claimer_YT Před 2 lety +7

      @@SlimShadyCypher You are 100% projecting, and you're most likely a Geechi fan OR you just want things to be simple. You just watched a video where the consensus was Lux was too complex for ur average fan to digest. Eazy da Block Captain broke down all rounds and the consensus was that Lux won without the stumbles CLEAR. However he stumbled.. and I had Lux losing. Because I have no bias. Stating that Lux's intricate bars "aren't actually that good" are "mediocre" and "unimpressive", say's more about YOUR lack of ability to evolve. Lux doesn't need to dumb down anything.

  • @johnisrael5022
    @johnisrael5022 Před 24 dny +1

    This review helps me realize Lux really won. Rum vs Lux gone be crazy if he goes higher than this.

  • @no.1.2.u
    @no.1.2.u Před 2 lety +1

    Ayo iLLMac..
    That "Sht Like That" cut that you're thinking about just might be a cut from DJ Clue featuring Nas's track "Live From the Bridge."

  • @origamibulldoser1618
    @origamibulldoser1618 Před 2 lety

    And that's when Buddha said "oh shit, it's lit" is low key a fire ass funny bar

  • @hylasgeist1568
    @hylasgeist1568 Před 2 lety +1

    When's that LSC album dropping then?!

  • @skeletalsounds_
    @skeletalsounds_ Před 3 měsíci

    After their tangent on how lux’s style is perceived and how it can be effective … and they end on the goofiest jokes ever. I love it

  • @kidcreative2855
    @kidcreative2855 Před 2 lety +2

    The “Geechi” thing was accurate except it’s more so based in South Carolina. Charleston to be specific. They all talk with an island dialect and referred to as “Geechi”. It might be heavy in Virginia as well but I do know it’s mostly prevalent in the Carolinas.

  • @strangekitchenappliances2314

    1:03:35 I been telling people this and they literally refuse to admit it even though they'll admit they've never actually looked into any studies surrounding it. The dogmatism surrounding some dietary shit in america is weird.

  • @battlersbeware7095
    @battlersbeware7095 Před 2 lety

    The “Shit like that” came from when Nas was actually talking about being on stage w/ Smack.

  • @Jamaal_Eye_Ball
    @Jamaal_Eye_Ball Před 3 měsíci +1

    Lux wasn't confirming Tay Roc. He was confirming Geechi asking, "am i lying or not?" Lux nodded and said you lying. - Mac should've got that correct

  • @NoName-cz3wn
    @NoName-cz3wn Před 3 měsíci +1

    RE: Geechis 3rd. Its wild that every single battle rap event got robbed by Crips after the fact, and URL still stayed in business long enough for Geechi to pop off

  • @demetrioshilton5328
    @demetrioshilton5328 Před 2 lety +1

    Geechi had a bar about that Gula island bar vs JC because it was in South Carolina, "We in SC only real ninjas understand Geechi"

    • @demetrioshilton5328
      @demetrioshilton5328 Před 2 lety +2

      My favorite Lux bar was the Mafia( my fee a) or the Bugging this Loc is (Locust)

  • @asylumsocietyy
    @asylumsocietyy Před 2 lety +3

    would love to see you 3 react to illmacs scribble jam 2004 run

  • @dlumaban1
    @dlumaban1 Před 10 měsíci

    Blessings

  • @sesepoppa2551
    @sesepoppa2551 Před 2 lety +16

    Idk if yall noticed but Lux battle style right now goes more for replay value.. like if ur not into his style you won't get in on this first take.. but go back and watch it tomorrow and you'll have him lyrically winning.. the fans want instant Haymakers.. that's why battle rappers with one liners are really popular now.. Geechi got that on 💯..

  • @InDatOneBag
    @InDatOneBag Před 2 lety +1

    Are watches coming back??

  • @cr9477
    @cr9477 Před 2 lety +2

    yo illmac you said that complex ideas argment vs soul

  • @K.T.02
    @K.T.02 Před 3 měsíci +1

    30 by Geech buddy really checked his opp on they own knowledge 💀😂

  • @trukcity6472
    @trukcity6472 Před 2 lety +1

    illmac -"that's when buddha was like 'oh shit, its lit!" Lmao

  • @MikeJones-gb5gp
    @MikeJones-gb5gp Před rokem +1

    glad. to see the homie Lush on his getback.

  • @KeyToTheMansion
    @KeyToTheMansion Před 2 lety +11

    The entourage changed the energy...The intervals of Geechi talking to them controlled the narrative of the battle. I got to be said that if that was NY and a NY battler tried to bully a wit we will beat yo azz. I think the culture would call it NY bias.

    • @twoface9959
      @twoface9959 Před rokem +1

      I forgot about Geechi checking one of Lux’s entourage about the red flag being on the wrong side.

  • @faahz
    @faahz Před 2 lety +2

    Lux whispered "King".... that's what K stands for in the Supreme alphabet (5%) 1:55:00

  • @lincolnsmith7963
    @lincolnsmith7963 Před 2 lety +1

    Does caffeine have beef with ruin your day ?

  • @Claimer_YT
    @Claimer_YT Před 2 lety +10

    Lux was better, but stumbled and the battle is debatable. There are two Battle Rap camps. WWE RAP fans and Battle Rap Fans. And that's that.. dont waste your energy explaining to someone why a bar or scheme was great, when they're quoting the moment Geechi spoke to Lux's crew and calling it fire.

    • @lucrative6477
      @lucrative6477 Před 2 lety +1

      But, 3 middle aged white men under 6 feet tall said it was scary…

    • @mikemck4796
      @mikemck4796 Před 2 lety +1

      You mean some are BATTLE RAP fans, while others are topical free verse fans?

    • @STDealer
      @STDealer Před 2 lety +1

      Man you had to insult people's preference and show your bias

    • @krambone
      @krambone Před rokem

      Claimer Nice explanation.
      You got ppl that listen for actual punches/angles/schemes first and performance secondary and ppl that watch for the small room/big stage performance and listen to punches/angles/schemes secondary.

  • @SCOODAMcGOODA
    @SCOODAMcGOODA Před rokem +3

    Man. Lush and mac going back and forth critiquing was so long, annoying, and uncomfortable ...

  • @KidMarshall10
    @KidMarshall10 Před 2 lety

    “They changing up like Game style when he collab with people” Illmac

  • @emmanuelmedina5535
    @emmanuelmedina5535 Před 2 lety +1

    The Mandalorian is good, and that Yoda track by Illmac is 🔥.

  • @zembabweking
    @zembabweking Před 2 lety +6

    Lux had some fire material but he claims this was just a sparring match guess we might get a serious 🧐 match one day geechi did what he had to do 3 solid rounds

  • @chrisjamez00
    @chrisjamez00 Před 2 lety +1

    When did Gru get so much swaggggg? And that minion has a smooth fade.

  • @hippipdip
    @hippipdip Před 2 lety +1

    Illmac, we gonna need that LSC album...

  • @streakzero
    @streakzero Před 2 lety

    Lush is that one white professor that just knows. I would sit in a class taught by him on music and battle rap references or just hip hop in general. His knowledge and respect is just so prevalent. Like you can see he is authentically in love with hip hop. It’s dope. Illmac being as dope as he is but always come to Watch so humble and knowledgeable. A true student of the game, and he Avacado had his situation but you can tell dude is sincere and learned from it and was in a different space I’m glad to see so more Watch content, love this show.

    • @LetterBeginning
      @LetterBeginning Před 6 měsíci

      Lush is a white man, period. Tell him to shut the hell up before he gets run by some.real ni**as.

  • @GeenoDaDonTV
    @GeenoDaDonTV Před 2 lety +6

    Listening to this again, there was alot of gas in that building, 2-1 Lux

  • @aarontoliver801
    @aarontoliver801 Před 11 měsíci +5

    Lux definitely got the first 2 rounds. You'll never go back to this Geechi material and say to yourself "I need to hear this again"

    • @Nandoswitharando
      @Nandoswitharando Před 10 měsíci

      I go back and watch home alone every Christmas but that doesn’t mean it’s a better movie than The Godfather.

    • @elijahexpecttheunexpected2600
      @elijahexpecttheunexpected2600 Před 9 měsíci

      @@ZiiDKiiDzTMOVER THE HEAD BARS… YOU MEAN OVER YOUR HEAD BARS. 😳

    • @evktxbi
      @evktxbi Před 9 měsíci +1

      Geechi 3-0

    • @theDRIPg0d
      @theDRIPg0d Před 2 měsíci

      Huh. Geechi bodied that fool lux. 30.

  • @LivingProof-BRU
    @LivingProof-BRU Před 2 lety

    No hat illmac is a genius in the breakdown🤣💯

  • @NoName-cz3wn
    @NoName-cz3wn Před 2 měsíci

    2nd round from Geechi is fire til you realize Smack is out here saying "the money gone." That makes it sound like Geechi is saying "yeah they put all their chips on me! And they went broke!" 😂😂