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DOPE CONVERSATIONS: Rob Hersov: "Why the ANC must be removed from power & the future of SA."
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- čas přidán 18. 08. 2024
- In conversation with Rob Hersov of Invest Africa, on the political landscape of South Africa, a coalition government, serving the nation and a touch on family & humanity.
You are in your own level when it comes to the type of content you're pushing out there. Please carry to teaching the masses to better understand the politics of South Africa especially since we're approaching 2024 so that when we vote, a good number of our citizens take well informed decisions.
Chillers mark the register... let's subscribe and grow this channel, mostly let's come and learn from this power mind.
He's amazing 👌👌
Any vote against the ANC is a win for me.
EFF, DA or who ever.
it's a win for SA!
U know what u right am not a fan of the parties u mentioned but you made a hella good point.👍🏽
The inEFFectives are even worse than the ANCommunists. South Afa would become the poorest place in the world with an ANCommunist and EFFluence government.
@@stlouisix3 I repeat any numbers against the ANC is a win for SA.
That's true, I just want to see these ANC crooks in overalls. We all know that it would be down hill for the ANC when they don't have the tax payers money to buy their way out of everything. The Mafia will do what the Mafia does, start killing each other!!!
@@stlouisix3 How are they worse than the ANC ? Please educate society
Pen.... may your voice become louder and reach further because you will influence change in a country we all love. Through my journey, i've learnt that skin colour doesn't differentiate people, it's culture and the more we integrate, the more we understand, the more we accept each other. No one gets to choose who or where we are born into. So we can only go forward and focus on changing what's in front of us. Knowledge is power and education is the key as we unite to transform our amazing Rainbow nation!
Yabona Kodwa Mac G is putting us on. I wouldn't have know this Gem. Great conversation brother!
I love your conversations with Rob. It gives a sense of hope for SA in the future.
I have been watching Gayton very closely and I'm loving what he's doing and stand for. I'm definitely vote for him in 2024.
DA is not a bad idea, I know how us black people are scared to vote for them. I've witnessed DA in PE. They were moving in the right direction.
One of the most important points to remember is that your vote needs to be for a party who you believe will be better than ANC. We are losing our best minds of all races to other countries. We need to build something that makes them believe that they have a better future here.
Open and honest conversations like this is where change will come from. Great podcast 🔥
Lmao you think Rob is being open and honest 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Now this is the content I signed up for..👏👏….this is exactly how and where Change will come from ….brave conversations…well done Pen !..keep this up !..
After seeing this, I'm now decided on who I want to vote for in 2024, thanks to Rob for that. Last time I voted ANC was 2004 in the time of Mbeki when the economy was growing at around 5% a year. Its been downhill ever since & here we are now with new political parties that give true hope.
God forbid if ANC wins 2024 & 2029, we'd see a huge revolt from everywhere & thats all been my thinking lately, that we're headed for a civil war.
But I see your's & Rob's views are valid & appreciated so there's HOPE after all.
Thank you, great conversation, keep them coming!!
P.s. get Vusi Thembekwayo for conversation as well. I find him also extremely interesting.
Pen please continue doing these types of podcasts to enlighten South Africans. These conversations are extremely vital believe it or not.
If Peneul doesn't establish his own political party by 2024. I am voting for VF or DA.
😂😂😂
DA is weak for current problems.
Vote FF+
@@lesegomabiletsa6458 Penual is being groomed to form a political party, mark my words
I have no idea who this guy is but based on your dialogue he is one of those who matter n he sounds very optimistic about SA. I would love to draw more from his well of knowledge n experience to make a difference for generations to come in my family
Well done on securing this interview with Mr Hersov. I appreciate your efforts of continuously enlightening and educating us. Penuel, thank you so much for this interview. Keep up the good work.
That was a great and informative dialogue. It's good to know that our people of all races love their homeland and would do anything to make it great given the chance.
Voting with emotion is a thing of the past...now we do for the future of our children, since ANC fucked up ours already.
I love Rob Hersov how I agree with the guy is beyond
Great conversation. What South Africa needs is to bring back political TV debates so the masses can see just how stupid and incompetent ANC leaders are
Never going to happen. The ANC knows that it has "malala-chips" in its kitchen. HAHAHAHAHA... there is nothing there of substance.
We need more. This is very impressive. 👏🏿
Hopefully this interview will bring hope,change and solutions!!! #educational!!! as always🤘🤘🤘
JEEZ BROTHER I LOVE THIS... REALLLY MIND OPENING A SIGN OF THE HOPE OF HUMAN COLLABORATION FOR A BETTER SOUTH AFRICA!🔥🔥❤❤✊🏾✊🏾
All of us in the comments also need to please contribute and do as much groundwork as we can in the form of educating and bringing awareness to people on a daily basis. I'm nervous for the next election, Let's be passionate about it. We have just over a year LET'S GO 💪🏽 Great work Penuel 🙏🏽
Thanks Pen and ROb for striving to help people to understand what could happen if we can get political change!
I have heard you talking about Rob before Pen,amazing person right there,very mature..
Loved the conversation 👌
Bring him back and cook him with business related questions...
What a man, thank you Penuel for the interview! How do you get hold of Rob Hersov, this man is so passionate about our country I would love the opportunity to work with him on any of his projects.
I like what ur doing penuel, and i hope SAns can c the importance of working with pple who have already made it in business, these pple possess so much knowledge that can change your life in a short space of time, as for Governance its always gonna b a challenge in Africa as we vote with emotions instead of logic!
please bring him to virtual mkhukhu also
Penuel you definitely have done an amazing job again, on this one. So much necessary knowledge on this. I feel obligated to just send out my appreciation for seeking this knowledge, sharing this knowledge. People with good intentions and acting out those intentions for the greater good are a necessity for any society. May you not relent....we are evolving
Awesome interview, please do bring Mr Rob for more. He's open views are very much needs by the masses
Thank you Penual for your efforts to educate the youth and the rest of South Africa on how business, politics of this country are run. We appreciate your efforts and keep at it
I love this Rob dude Finally a man with balls big balls
Such a great interview and I appreciate people like you because you give us access to information that most of us never knew about and we really need to have such conversations as a country,so we can change our mindsets and come up with solutions to move this country forward.
I love business people like Rob Hersov,they are often accused of stuff that a lot of people don't know about but they often do more for people than the ANC government.
We really need to partner with such people and we desperately need to change our government so that it could be easier to work with such great business people so that we can rebuild this country moving forward.
Peneul The Black Pen,we appreciate you and I love your mindset.
Blessings 🙏🏽
For me personally my life won’t change whether the ANC, DA or the EFF is in power. It’s the poor that I’m worried about. I don’t see how the DA serves them in any positive way whatsoever. There’s no evidence that the DA is willing to serve the greater majority of the country and seeing the inequality in the Western Cape is evidence.
Actually they are on record that their are pro middle class and not pro poor.
@@ntuboymokhethi6157 But we can still give them a chance over National-African-Criminals
@@katlehomosiasekolanyane8743 we've got nothing to loose.
Penuel your content is always powerful. I want the Penual show to grow.
Thank you Lethu 🙏🏽
I am so appreciative of this informative conversation that alot of people are afraid to have, I hope that this content reaches as many South Africans as possible for us to make the right decision in 2024.
I think this whole thing of the race card no longer works because today's generation see's beyond the race. What ever happened before 1994 tought us lessons and surly we will never forget that, but I think our country is at a point where we can move past that and build our country together. ANC will always want to use apartheid as a scapegoat for their short comings and holding us rensome to not vote for other political parties and guess what I don't think that card works with today's generation.
IT IS TIME FOR CHANGE AND THE TIME IS IN 2024.
Whatever thw the white people are trying to do they are doing for their race...Wether you like it or not
Whatever thw the white people are trying to do they are doing for their race...Wether you like it or not
@@mbusovilakati6020 you very ignorant shame.
Very interesting and informative 👍
Big up Black pen, we need such debates and we take them to the groud in the form of community meetings/forums so that those who can't access internet can benefit and take informed decisions about their votes...
Well done on this episode BlackPen. Thank you for the opportunity to open up our minds and think. Politics is more often than not a topic I stray from. I think this was such an easy going conversation to get people like myself to engage in politics and our countries current standings. Looking forward to more interviews like these. Thank you.
Thank you Bonito 🙏🏽❤️
Pen good work my man. A huge student of life. Keep this content coming. Thank you for exposing us to good people with so much insightful and helpful information. We love bra
He is not sure how to win the masses and get them to switch but great conversation.
True true
Wow this was amazing. Good questions asked robs awesome can't wait for the next one. South afrocans are slowly waking up now 🙏🏽🇿🇦
To many political parties not enough fun. Apartheid gov and the ANC need to be held accountable for their actions.
Well informed conversation....We need more big corporate business people to speak out so that we can hear their alternative thoughts and suggestions....We definitely need more voices like these....People who stand for something whether we agree or not at least we can share some knowledge and solutions with each other....Danko Pen!!! 🙏🏿👌🏿🇿🇦🔥🔥🔥
Rob is a straight shooter, doesn't mince his words 😂. Dope conversation...wish it was longer
dope one Penuel 💯 cant wait for part 2,3,4 5 6 keep them coming we need conversations like this
As ridiculous as this sounds, can we please just hide our parents and grandparents ID's come May 2024. It's been said as a joke before but surely we need to do this.
Great interview, thanks Penuel for not swearing as you were with MacG, I couldn't even finish that interview. This one for me was great and great questions too.
Thanks!
👏🏾 beautiful and informative conversation. Short but impactful.
Gòoday pernuel
Why is rob calling the ret.faction of anc evil .i thought he was going to give us a view without taking side . My view is he.is got a narrative that he is putting up. I feel he is pushing a da racist agenda and dream of re colonizing us again . If he dream of da coming back to power south africa will plunge back to armed struggle cos we cant forget apartheid and.its atttocities .the only good.people we have uts white.privillage
What an insightful conversation 🙏
lets fight for this country
This is exactly the ideas 💡 that builds a great economy finding good people and working with them, black white Indian or legal foreign nationals. Making things great 😊
The Black Pen 🖤 at it again, love it. I like you have transcended race and ethnicity.
In South Africa we have a culture of "vote and spectate". The talk of who will be our president is very childish, because a president is just a figurehead. We're obsessed with it because we're looking for a saviour, someone to take us to the promised land and the sooner we abandon that dependency mentality, the better.
The real people that do the work are in the departments reporting to mangers and DGs, and those that are in private and civil rights organizations.
I still cannot fathom that the DA's track record went over people's heads. Their municipalities have been getting clean audits for more that a decade. Clearly people vote with their emotions and not their heads. Hence we have the CapeExit/ Cape Independence Movement.
This needed to be an hour, really good video
Thankyou for an interesting and inciteful conversation by two brilliant individuals. 🌈😍
This was so educational Pen we need more of such content man
Wow Pen.. thanks for this. You're phenomenal!! Can't wait to meet you one day.
whether we like it or not Rob is telling the truth the thuggery mentality in ANC must come to an end.
The problem is much deeper, these guys have to show that they have changed in the private sector. (That's tough as capitalism ensures dog eat dog). A few token appointments is not good enough. Fair play about the useless government but what about improved minimum wages and bursaries for brilliant kids of their employees. They have to create a climate like in Europe of dignified wages, affordable quality living spaces etc. I worked in corporate South Africa and saw same game played by the ANC there. Not all of us are silly enough believe are a few wise words. Integrity above all else is what South African leadership lacks. Those Apartheid leaders might have been as Fascist as hell but they had integrity and delivered to their base. That's why the Nats never lost since 1948. Anyway great interview and good to see positivity from one of SA's top brass.
The apartheid government made a 'mistake' ... Penuel is singing for his supper ...I am annoyed with this statement ..
Reading in between the lines. He's stupid but he the only intelligent one. Music, Gayton visit him as personal friends. Gwede is captured by communism. I'm now convinced he doesn't care about pro poor policies cause these are communist inclined and he goes for DA as the beacon of hope anc they are pro middle class. Questions is what happens to the poverty that is brought upon by apartheid and capitalism.
Great conversation with Rob King i've learned something new today
CIC Malema once said, "you must be weary of any black leader praised by white man"
and history has always revealed.
There is something dark behind this man's grin, it looks like revange. 2024, people MUST vote, and must vote right.
Think more, Think again!
Power, insight. Thoroughly enjoyed this conversation.
This is so refreshing.
Funny how Rob mentioned all other parties as an alternative and omitted EFF.
This guy is highly ambitious , he really thinks people will just stop voting ANC and EFF .
I'm only motivated to push for Nationalisation. Let's make it happen through the ballot box. Let's go educate our people on the power and benefits of taking control of our land and all strategic sectors of our economy.
Again, yes please and soon I hope. While this is still fresh in our mind. Thanks Pen, great interview.
Well done Pen - keep it up bro, don't afraid to ask them deep questions.
What a powerful conversation.....South Africans let's remove ANC come 2024, for better life for all
Thanks for this beautiful conversation I'm so inspired
Great show pen ..keeping speaking true don't let any one stop u your podcast will go though the roof thanks
first time watching after I saw you on MacG
Penuel brul this is very informative. I respect your work fellow Rhodent alumni 👌🏽.
Spread more fruits hopefully most can be educated so that siyephambili as a country .
This felt like the Given Mkhari x Johan Rupert Chairman's Conversation where many opportunities for probing were missed, it can't be about sweeping statements that make good soundbite and teasers...
You nailed it. Fake praises and trying to secure more bag by Pen.
Man Black I'm watching from a distance, Im learning everytime. The conversation's and the people you're having them with💯. keep at it my brother, this is your prime. keep educating the black men and women out here
'... change come through the ballot box, not through the violence, disruptions and civil unrest, we must vote for change' 💯🧠✍️
You can tell Rob is a great lad man !!! 😂😂
I think most people agree that cANCer must go away and this is definitely necessary and urgent. My concern is that as voters and non-voters we have not yet really taken the time to stop and think of how exactly we have participated in the mess that we are in. 1 those who do not vote are contributing significantly in the problems that SA has . 2 Those who continued to vote for the cANCer even though the signs were more and more becoming clear that this party is failing the nation are also very much responsible for this disaster. 3 The way it is so easy to manipulate the masses is another major contributing factor that for some reason we are scared to talk about. The conversation was great however, I think its important that we should also understand that the four things that Rob Hersov mentioned (Governance, Education, Security (Crime) & Employment) are important however, the land issue is just as important to unlock the full potential of this country.
Great conversation, I agree that we should focus on the good people as a starting point, and these good people should be drawn from various political parties, to ensure that they yield the synthesis.
So, keep the door open for all good people (and not just for good people from the DA), they should come from the EFF, ATM, BLF, PAC as much as from the DA, PA, ActionSA, VF Plus then at least, we can hold one another accountable...because we will bring forth narratives of opposing constituencies.
The sum of those little (and opposing) constituencies is actually the closest reflection to the beast called South Africa, so in a Nutshell, no one (or very few) will then be left out.
The EFFluence is Evil incarnate.
@@stlouisix3 if you honestly think a party that has over a million people constantly voting for it has nothing good in it, then you're not worth listening to.
This was an amazing and necessary video. Hopefully that part 2 gets done too!
Voting must be digital now, and real time 😊
I must say Gayton has been doing some really good work.
Indeed 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
Great conversation, keeping them coming
Thanks for these conversations Penuel. We need more of these
Fucking LOVE This!!! I have so many questions... Why is big business so quiet? The country is burning and so many heavy investors are just quiet, in a country that could burst at any second. South Africa is imploding. Capitalism has failed dismally in South Africa, however, I am for capitalism. The fact that we aren't integrated, the most unequal society with the highest unemployment rate on the fucken planet... What the fuck is wrong with these highly educated people? We've had brain drains since 1985 in this country... What the fuck!!!
Because even chaos is highly profitable. The key is just to keep the frogs (population) boiling at an even temperature without them realising and reacting (civil war)
Socialism and lazy, corrupt communist ☭ politicians have failed South Afca.
Business has nothing to lose. Business in south africa is actually having more investment in non tangible business, banking, IT etc. Things that even when civil war burst tomorrow, they wont lose a thing, but just takes their investments and systems somewhere else. The poor will always lose in a pure capitalistic system, communism isnt a solution though. we need more practical philosophies
The Game is rigged. Watch Gary Stevenson, Trader explaining why we need to change not only the Governments, but the system . We all understand that it is outrageous that so many South Africans Live in absolute poverty. Anyone damaging state property should be put to work for the benefit of the state. We need Infrastructure development on a huge scale. It's not hard, but you cannot have a government raping the nation's coffers together with Corporate South African desperate silence.
I enjoyed this conversation
Great discussion. Thank you
Good conversation, looking forward to the next one
Great conversation
Good reflections, honest conversation.
Loved the conversation but I think why DA works is because it represents privilege people who understands Governance and aware of their rights and constitution. It is easy to manage suburbs than to manage townships. DA's work is to maintain affluent neighborhoods hence they are struggling in townships. Rob is a good man who still needs to work on his bias because EFF (Black) is as the result of DA(white) so this parties are the same they serve the interest of race.
Nice insights
Hard Facts from Rob 🔥🔥🔥🔥
You have a new follower Penuel!
I will VOTE for you any day!! Get started, people like you can educate our POOR masses!!! Tell me where I can assist and I will be PROUD to work for you!!!
Everyday I am falling in love with your work black pen, you are doing an amazing job brother. Keep up.
Did he intentionally not mention EFF on his list of parties🤣🤣
You saw that? 🤣🤣🤣
Conversation like these give me hope. I'm 26 and I want to vomit the moment anyone wants to talk politics, ANC (and EFF) politics SPECIFICALLY but this... This was a healthy CONVERSATION, THANK YOU. We need more of such conversations, and more from Rob and other business leaders. I and a lot of people I know are sick of the ANC.
Why do you want to vomit because of the EFF ?
Loved this discussion! Thank you guys.
Interesting, this needs a debate. This is one man serving his views. What is in it for you Mr. Rob?
Rob has just made me fall in love with EFF even more!! I’m glad to know that they are not captured and funded by anyone. And I’m glad he spoke about the event when Malema was in London, which clearly proves that Renwick or any of those men who were there, never convinced Julius of anything… JULIUS HASN’T SOLD OUT!! Thank you, Rob!! Andile Mngxitama, Kenny Kunene and McKenzie lied to the country about that London event, but it’s obvious because they were not there!!
I am glad i saw this comment
Beyond Julius being captured. I just appreciate that Rob tries so much to dismiss the impact of the EFF in the current geopolitical sphere. Denying the huge growth and impact of the EFF is pure stupidity, They are a force to be reckoned with, whether he likes it or not, and the There will be no coalition to outst the ANC without the cooperation with the EFF. Anyone one who believes they can do without the EFF, Are just pure ludicrous. I am conviced PA is also funded by white monopoly capitalists.
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My only thoughts
Please find more of these types of discussions
Great interview, if you keep them at 30 minutes max, you'll have me captured 👌