Stan Meyer's VIC explanation-July 2023
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- Stan Meyer's VIC explanation- July 2023
Search the internet for Stan Meyer replications, and you see the same problem time and time again. No one has a working VIC. Why is that?
The signals are easy to produce and synchronize, but the VIC is much more difficult than we ever thought. In my work time and time again I hit a wall that forces me to go back to a full VIC redesign as I cannot simply adjust the coils to the values I need due to the shared magnetic field. Getting the variables correct in the VIC is just one part of a much more complex system. Tuning to resonance is actually a two stage process, and that as well as other topics will be discussed further in future videos.
This rant is not 100% correct but I figured it would be best to publish it raw without any editing. I do not think the leakage inductance determines the short circuit current because the math shows the current limited by the resistance alone will give the circuit the necessary current to produce 20kV at 8-10kHz-again the math will be shown in upcoming videos...Until then this is what I have to say. I hope it is enlightening as its taken years of research to get to this point, and there is much more I will be sharing in future videos.
The frequency doubling effect is a hint you hit resonance, but based on the choke coil back EMF. for a coil to successfully generate an impulse your square wave input must end infinitely sharp. Fn generators, without mosfet gate drivers lack the power to trigger a nice impulse.
I still don’t see Perfectly how the coils interact to step-up voltage. But the impulse is the best a coil Can do to create voltage spikes.
Brad Just a Note, when a solar Panel and its Cells are wired they are wired in series with diodes and bypass between each cell on the panel to protect the total series part of circuit (10out of the /11 cell) circuit from collapse or fluctuation in case 1 cell fluctuation or collapses , the panel and other cells stay performing this is so the total circuit does not stop or have wild fluctuations. The Cells are also in pairs to balance the inner outer resistances of the inner outer tubes. ( so balanced resistance pairs of cells have diode and bypass Diodes between the 5 pairs). Just Try it. DD
It is just something to for you to consider that makes it tunable. ( For those studying this specific flat bobbin 11 cell verion(1 cell is a heater) as 10 cell in series imagine a string of Christmas lights when 1 globe goes out the other lights stop, when individual light/cells. have diodes and bypass the other lights stay on if a globe goes out) see solar panel wiring.
The points you make are very important for the community , but there is always more points to put in the the final narrowing of the operation parameter . The 11 Cell is not the end it is part of 16 or so variations or version iterations Stan did over time, mostly for different mechanical applications or stepped patent application approvals. . vic voltage intensifier circuit is described in the versions which do not use flat bobbin also. so it is not limited to only that version/ iteration as all other version or iterations work.
So far 1 to 9 work just fine to make voltrolysis and save world, so people can use them now. the 11 cell vic voltage intensifier circuit on flat bobbin version ( which has several tank versions, is the one for doing specification of nano bubbles, gtnt, and and the ultimate fine tune of efficiency. Before the Round vic voltage intensifier circuit on round bobbin was made.
Those bubbles also add capacitance and resistance as you have zoomed with a Freaking microscope you know,
but just note, what happens when they are staying in suspension in between the plates as homogeneous nano bubbles.
engine fueling and efficiency do not hinge on the vic voltage intensifier circuit on flat bobbin version being mastered.
As there Many working early version before the vic voltage intensifier circuit on flat bobbin , and versions after it using 11 cell ,and Nano Bubble Water fuel , Working can mean voltrolysis no salts and very little amps, making fuel efficiently better than pem or alkaline, lower than 33.333kw/ kg
and making nano bubbles and gtnt. For those Professionals reading this this is the forest your looking for with out the flat bobbin.
No one has all the answers we all do a part ,
that is by Design.
A Master Never Stops Learning.
A Definition of a Master / water fuel master should be he is never satisfied
with what he has learned.
But should stop and look at the trail of success some times.
as those successes are the trees which you have planted which are making the forest possible.
GOD SPEED BRAD
and THANK YOU STANLEY A MEYER
and Radio Electronic Genius Stephen Meyer for inventing these technologies
and giving the methods to the world.
Hi Dan.. how's it going.
@@electro1622 Rocking and rolling
This is a good simple to understand explanation as to why this is impossible as Stan described:
In theory, to separate water into its constituent gases (hydrogen and oxygen) using an electrostatic field alone, you would need an electrostatic field of extremely high intensity or voltage potential to overcome the covalent bonds holding the water molecules together. This process would be highly impractical and potentially dangerous for several reasons:
Bond Strength: The covalent bonds between the hydrogen and oxygen atoms in water molecules are very strong. To break these bonds, you would need an electrostatic field with an immense voltage potential, far beyond what is achievable with conventional equipment. This would likely require a field strength in the megavolt range or higher.
Safety Hazards: Generating an electrostatic field of such intensity is not only technically challenging but also extremely hazardous. High-voltage equipment poses serious safety risks, including the potential for electrical arcing, breakdown, and physical harm.
Equipment Design: Creating equipment capable of generating and maintaining such high electrostatic fields would be a significant engineering challenge. It would likely involve large and complex apparatus that is not readily achievable with everyday materials or technology.
Energy Requirements: The energy requirements to generate such a field would be immense, potentially far exceeding any practical or sustainable energy source.
In practice, water electrolysis is a more feasible and controllable method for separating water into hydrogen and oxygen gases. It involves using an external electrical power source (e.g., a battery or power supply) to provide the necessary voltage and current for the electrolysis process, which can be conducted safely and efficiently. Electrostatic fields are more commonly used in applications like particle accelerators and experiments in high-energy physics rather than for practical chemical reactions.
Courtesy of ChatGPT ;)
In the end, one needs to look no further than Newton's first law of thermodynamics: Energy cannot be created or destroyed.
Even in theory, if you could create an electrostatic field strong enough to split water, you would use so much energy to generate and sustain that field that it would probably be even less efficient than regular electrolysis that uses current flow to achieve ion movement. No amount of vibrations and resonance can overcome the fact that energy is not created or destroyed.
There are no shortcuts or loop holes, only tricks, but nothing more.
When I ponder the Stan Meyer story and all those trying to replicate the work, I'm honestly reminded of the Interstellar movie (great movie by the way). When the scientist is on his death bed and he confesses that the "equation" was a sham and that he lied.
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Murf had spent her life working with the good doc to "solve the equation". But that doc knew quite well that his equation was unsolvable. I feel like this is the confession people needed from Stan.
It's definitely doable, but it's very difficult to get all the variables right.
@@BradKwfc reduce the number of variables
@@BradKwfc If you can’t prove this with math, then it’s not doable. There are fundamental principles of electrostatic electricity that simply don’t fit into Stan’s story. Lots of charts and images, but no math. In the end, Stan was sued and the court found that he was a fraudster who was simply doing electrolysis. He had to pay back investors. This idea doesn’t work and it’s sad to see people spend their time and money chasing after this red herring. You simply cannot create an electromagnetic field by simple voltage potential. You actually need current to flow in order to perform the physical action that makes a B-field. It’s not magic, it’s an actual physical process that can be described with math. If it can’t, then sorry but it’s just fantasy.
In my experiments, the fuel cell was determined by a capacitor, a diode, and two diodes directed in opposite directions. I do not exclude that it can be defined as a resistor, an inductor.
Sounds like there is a complex mathmatical formula that needs to be discovered. That is a huge deal on par with Ohm's law.
Yes, even with the formulas it's difficult to determine exactly what the values will be afterward. Adjusting the values by gapping the core or by adding/removing turns is easy until you see how much it effects the other coils due to the coupling. Getting it to work is impossible if any part of the VIC is incorrect.
Since 2008, to search for the truth of Stanley Meyer.
Don't you think you have a problem with the search methodology?
It's high time to understand that something needs to be changed if all your standard methods have failed over the past 15 years.
You stumble upon technical contradictions, which you cannot resolve using the "wild cat" method (by sorting through options).
Look towards Altshuler's theory of inventive problem solving
Correct me if Im wrong. In the choke you have parasitic Xc , Xl , and R.. the ratio of parasitic Xc to the coils R determines how much energy wants to try and store as reactive power in the form of capacitance between winds and how much passes as real power.. the higher R is than parasitic Xc, the more the wind to wind capacitance wants to store electrostatically than pass as current? In other words enhancing the transformers self resonance ability?
Reducing the R of the coil increases its Q factor which means it will store more energy, resonate longer, easier & with less energy loss.
I've heard several people mention the distributed capacitance Cd of the coils is more important. Personally I don't think that value is as important as the other variables but I could be wrong.
Energy can be stored electrostatically in the Cd, but it can also be stored in the inductance.
If the Cd is too high I would think it would cause problems as the coils may begin to self resonate, at that point the energy would be trapped in the coils and not transfer to the cell.
So the problem I see is if the Cd is high enough where the coils resonate instead of the coil inductance and cell then the cell might never get enough energy to charge.
The self resonant coils would essentially be in parallel with the circuit. They will definitely block current but I think they world block it too much. Parallel resonant circuits have a nearly infinite impedance at resonance.
If you do the math on the VIC you can see that the peak current flow through the secondary circuit is 250mA, and the only way that can make 20kV (Stan's claim) is with a reactance of 80k ohms. Set this at 10kHz and you get 1.27H and 198pF.
@@BradKwfc IT is Common for radio engineers to LOOP the gain they also use a choke to stop the bleed off back to components. Remember the Main Capacitor is the pairs of cells in the wfc , Nano Bubble Waterfuel -Cell which should have blocking and bypass diodes if in series between the cell pairs (also pairs of tube cells wire series balancing the different resistance of inner outer tubes). these points stabilize the ramp.
Hi Brad.. me again.. want to do a trade for the hybrid VIC controller..??.. I have the round bobbin transformer complete with laminated core and already wound FR430 ss wire on it ( both are identical to meyer specs, I had the wire specially made and I bought the laminated core from max miller a few years ago which was also custom made to exact meyer specs) ... I got the bobbin from Russ Greis (RWG) and you can see it in my last 3 video's ... If you are keen let me know.
If I had an injector built to specs I might be interested. Only thing is I haven't done much research on that VIC. I built one and those chokes had 20H inductance when I measured them!
Once things slow down this fall I'm planning to redesign the case. I might sell a few then. I think I have 9 of the V3 boards.
You don't have a fuel cell model. It accepts electrical variables. However, the molecule has a mechanical model (Stanley Meyer). And you don't have a mechanical model of a molecule linked to an electrical model of a fuel cell.
When you make the linking, only then you need to switch to the configuration of the VIC.
The setting of the VIC variables depends on the characteristics of the fuel cell, not per revolution.
Thank you for sharing that. And yes, I sometimes feel like I have a long way to go.
Sir could please tell me how to contact with you
Bradkwfc@gmail.com
@@BradKwfcI will be in touch
Has anyone demonstrated Meyer's work yet?
It is out there in use.
Many have claimed they have but not shown enough proof.
@@BradKwfc Please do not ignore the other 16 versions and other 9 prior to flat bobbin version which work fine to drive all cells. shown every where, and in use. Example is 8xa and basic scr, Version 1 Works fine excellent performance , than versioning switches 10xa etc etc 9xa with switch transistor works fine strong reliable , and various transformer versions all Documented bubbles at less than 33.3333 /kw/kg /hr with the other 9 versions previous to flat bobbin working fine just as described and designed. excluding flat bobbin. if you feel those are too easy and you want to fixate on flat bobbin and say that is the only thing to look at that is a mis direction , than what you mean is flat bobbin is not shown enough by those with that version , which people have shown it making bubbles below 33.3333/kw/kg /hr , working shown on various channels . Remember going below 33.3333 kw/kg/hr is deemed impossible by the multi million dollar projects LOL. and the voltrolysis community already have 9 versions iterations publicly spread all working well below that at pressure from 8xa to gms version iterations with bubbles below that , and global. the vic flat bobbin is version 9 to aprox 14 in the iterations. but hey lets keep just saying 1 thing means all things to hide it from dummies to keep them from using it longer. As those using it are having some fun. Your a absolutist on the flat bobbin in a effort to finalize that version great stuff keep going but do not mis represent what is in working order and in use. Examples, 8xa and Scr, 9xa Transistor board with simple switched in step ups and variac control and chokes. ALL ARE VIC voltage intensifier circuits. all work great well below rest of worlds 33.3333 kw/kg/hr no salt no heat distilled water . All is great BRAD all this comment is only for people to understand what is in the folders is not 1 thing , but it is 16 version iterations, just making sure people are clearly seeing what is written as it is written not mis led to thinking it is one thing, or 1 version.if they have not put in the massive years of time you or others have put in to decipher the 30 years of Work Stan Did showing the versions and iterations , and hopefully they all wise up when reading this and look for the other versions running fine on the internet hopefully they can see what your short hand on flat bobbin means, as untrained ears may miss what you said about this version this specific assemble of flat bobbin as you state in video if they play it back. for that specific version. Try the other 9 and try other versions immediately as all use voltrolysis Voltage not amps , have no salt and work well below 33.3333 kw/kg/hr at pressure. God Speed. Hydrogen Hot Rodding is Here to Stay and already spread in every home garage near you.. PS BRAD YOUR WORK IS OUTSTANDING AND A AWESOME EFFORT WELL DONE a AMAZING VIDEO AND EXPLANATION.
@@hydrogen-power-gas Well, you almost made a valid point there. But then you had to plug yourself. Brad's right. Everyone is claiming and no one is showing their waves or are able to accurately describe the process. Just trying to deceive and make money.. He stated in the video that his focus of this was specifically on the VIC5 core operation. Maybe you should go back and have a re-listen 🤔