Kayak Sail install for a Sea Kayak

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  • čas přidán 22. 10. 2019
  • Patrick with Falcon Sails reviews a rigging job of a Valley Etain 17.5 to review all the details of what a great kayak sail should have.
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Komentáře • 15

  • @johnavery595
    @johnavery595 Před 3 lety +2

    Have had one for some years makes kayaking more fun and faster

    • @patrickforrester3116
      @patrickforrester3116 Před 3 lety

      It is hard to imagine why some one would pass on having a good sail on their kayak. Especially when you can have one that has great performance, weighs just 3 pounds, that folds to the size of an umbrella in seconds.

    • @FalconSails
      @FalconSails  Před 3 lety

      Thank you for letting people know you are enjoying your Falcon Sail. I looked it up. You have had your sail rig since June of 2016. That is 4 and 1/2 seasons. How is your rig holding up ? Have you had any problems with the hardware ?

  • @angelmorales1609
    @angelmorales1609 Před 3 lety +1

    Love it

  • @kayakerkoreaeastseakayak7282

    Have a nice store and a big kayak sale

    • @FalconSails
      @FalconSails  Před 4 lety

      Thank you for your comment. We do have a great shop as part of our total dedication to making the best kayak sail rig on the planet.
      We ship to all countries, and would be very happy to send a sail rig to you in Korea.
      You can design your own custom sail here.
      www.falconsails.com/store
      Let us know if we can do anything for you.

  • @deadthem
    @deadthem Před 3 lety +1

    I have a fishing kayak. A feel free lure. It's a wide beast and can be a pain to paddle. Would you recommend your product for my kayak?

    • @FalconSails
      @FalconSails  Před 3 lety +1

      We have helped a lot of people rig all the variants of the Feel Free Lure kayaks.
      The best kayak for rigging a sail on is the one you have and enjoy. If you like short big fishing kayaks they are great for kayak sailing. If your only goal was to pick a good kayak just for kayak sailing, these short wide kayaks are great. Esp the Feel Free Lure kayaks. They have great contour to their hulls for lateral resistance which gives them great up wind potential, they are wide and very stable which is desirable, and they are solid which is great for making a solid platform for a sail.
      I found at least 1 picture of a Feel Free Lure with a Falcon Sail on it. If you contact us, we can send the picture to you.
      All of Falcon Sails contact options are on this page.
      www.falconsails.com/contact.php
      Let us know if you need anything. We are always happy to talk about kayak sailing.
      For your large kayak, I recommend a 1.4 square meter sail with a complete rigging kit. It includes absolutely every part you need including custom adapters that fit your boat perfectly. All you need is a kayak, and a few basic tools such as a screw driver, pliers, tape measure or ruler, drill, drill bits, ect.
      You can design your custom sail here.
      www.falconsails.com/store
      Here is a video that will show you how to install a Falcon Sail on your kayak.
      czcams.com/video/2i8_EEExqNg/video.html
      Here are some links to videos on short kayaks like yours you may enjoy watching.
      Here is a video of a Falcon Sail customer making nice upwind progress on his first time out with a 1 square meter Falcon Sail on his 12 foot long kayak.
      facebook.com/watch/?v=278619176312509
      Here is a nice video clip of a customer in a 12 foot long Pungo / Recreational kayak.
      This was her first week end of kayak sailing, and you can see her making up wind progress.
      facebook.com/falconsails/videos/696388180923721/?v=696388180923721
      Here a husband and wife enjoyed one of their first kayak sails and made easy across the wind progress.
      facebook.com/watch/?v=300853454609552
      Here a Falcon Customer, is enjoying a sail on his 10 foot long kayak.
      czcams.com/video/wQ_K7IOKTqQ/video.html
      Here is a video of a customer with a shorter boat like yours having a good time.
      czcams.com/video/I_LZqTyqc9w/video.html
      Here a guy is enjoying a sail along the beach easily reaching across the wind.
      With a little sailing practice and a on shore wind, you can very easily sail across the wind along a beach and return sail back.
      facebook.com/watch/?v=896397267482735

    • @deadthem
      @deadthem Před 3 lety +1

      @@FalconSails thank you very much for your prompt reply. I will be ordering my sail shortly!

    • @FalconSails
      @FalconSails  Před 3 lety

      @@deadthem I see your email, I will reply soon. In any case all Feel Free Lure kayaks are easy to rig and are good sailors. In general these shorter wider kayaks are always good. You will see a lot of sails on a lot of different kayaks. They main driver for choice of kayak for kayak sailing is just knowing what kayak you like to paddle with or without a sail.

  • @johngallagher912
    @johngallagher912 Před 3 lety +1

    Is there no need for a dagger board or rudder?

    • @patrickforrester3116
      @patrickforrester3116 Před 3 lety

      I have been kayak sailing for years, and have never used a dagger board, lee board, or any other lateral resistance enhancer. I can make some up wind progress / about 5 or 10 degrees easily with no paddling. If I keep the sail oriented to the wind properly I can gain useful propulsion to within 30 degrees of straight up wind.

    • @FalconSails
      @FalconSails  Před 3 lety

      If you like the simplicity of a kayak, you will not want a dagger board.
      If your kayak is 14 feet or shorter you do not need a rudder. If your kayak has an adjustable skeg you do not need a rudder. Usually if your kayak without a sail is fine without a rudder, it will be fine without a rudder with a sail. All the forces are the same. If your paddle says turn left, you are going to turn left. Even if your ruder says turn right and your paddle sails turn left, you will turn left.
      Kayaks have a lot of natural lateral resistance built into their hulls and sail surprisingly well without any lateral resistance appendage.
      Kayaks are not sail boats, but their hulls are surprisingly efficient at sailing.
      Sail boat hulls are designed to be as slippery as possible going forward. A byproduct of a sail boat hull being designed to be as slippery as possible going forward, is a hull that is slippery going sideways ( and all directions actually ) and also tend to spin. This is what makes conventional sail thinkers believe you must have a lateral resistance enhancer on a kayak.
      Kayak hulls are designed to track and go in a straight line. This is achieved by having lateral resistance built in throughout the length of the hull, which is great for sailing. Imagine towing a kayak with a person in it, from the side vs towing a loaded kayak from the bow. The kayak towed from the side will be much much slower due to its lateral resistance. Once you build up some speed, a kayaks lateral resistance increases dramatically. Kayaks do not sail as well as a purpose built sail boat, but you can do no paddle sailing and reach across the wind, and even make some up wind progress.
      Of course a purpose built sail boat will sail better, than a kayak will, but kayaks sail amazingly well. If you have good quality sail, you do not need a lee board, or center board, or dagger board, or any lateral resistance enhancer to have a great kayak sailing experience.
      Our focus is to keep things as simple, compact, reliable, and light weight with the best possible performance.
      Lee boards and dagger boards add weight, complication, bulk, expense, drag ect. Some people want to turn their kayaks into a sail boat. That is fine, but you will add weight, complication, bulk, expense, drag, set up time at the put in, tear down time at the take out, and if there is no wind, or too much wind, you are better off with a compact sail rig that gives you 70% or more of the sailing benefits in a package that weighs only 3 pounds that can be lowered and compactly secured to the deck of your kayak in seconds. Everybody has their thing. If you want to have that perfect ideal incredible sailing experience in one situation, you will lose a lot in other situations. There is no perfect boat. If want simplicity and versatility, I think you will be happiest with a simplistic high quality sail and rig for your kayak.
      As a lifelong sailor, I thought the same thing sailors typically think about lateral resistance appendages. I have sailed and owned a lot of different boats. I use to race and skipper and crew on a lot of different boats, and can say I am a decent sailor. My conventional sail thinking made be believe you need a lee board or something on a kayak to sail. And then I tried kayak sailing. The performance of a sail on a kayak surprised me a lot. I was hooked instantly. I was surprised. That was even before there were good quality sail rigs available. Now that I can have a good quality sail rig, and a good airfoil shape, I will not go kayaking without a sail. After kayak sailing for the last 12 years and having paddle sailed thousands of miles, I have never used a lee board or anything like it. None of my friends use lee boards and none of us feel like we are massing anything.
      If you keep a good sail trimmed properly, oriented to the wind properly, and have at least 2mph of hull speed, a Falcon Sail will generate useful propulsion all the way up to within 30 degrees of straight up wind. That is with our without a lateral resistance appendage. In general once your actual track is 10 degrees above reaching, you have to start paddling to keep things oriented properly. The more up wind you go the more you have to paddle, but still you can gain useful propulsion to with 30 degrees of straight up wind. With a little bit of planning you can paddle up wind a little bit and reach back and forth all day long. Once your movement is 10 degrees above reaching, you are not just sitting there doing nothing, but you can do reach across the wind all day long, and even make up wind progress.
      Just like when sailing a conventional boat, when kayak sailing to maximize your potential, you have to have the right conditions, and you will have to concentrate. When conditions are good, you can get useful propulsion to within 30 degrees of straight up wind. Anybody who does a lot of kayak sailing with a good quality rig will agree. If it is really windy, gusty, shifty, there are large waves, you do not concentrate, you have too big of a sail, the paddle sailor is inexperienced, ect, the 30 degree number is going to grow.
      I wrote a bit more about this here.
      www.falconsails.com/KayakSailingFAQ.php#centerboard
      If you contact me at Falcon Sails, I can send to you a rough draft set of instructions for kayak sailing up wind.
      www.falconsails.com/contact.php
      This video shows a clip of a up wind leg I was enjoying last paddle season. It is a lot of fun.
      czcams.com/video/xjzld6MZhCI/video.html
      I was in a 14 foot long Jackson Journey kayak and making some up wind progress without paddling.
      I could have made more up wind progress if I paddled, but I can sail with no paddle 200 out of 360 degrees.
      This kayak has a rounded hull so some kayaks will do a little better yet.
      Here is another video of some friends and I enjoying a nice 18 mile paddle sail where we sail about 70% of the day.
      czcams.com/video/RkbSSlYEYl0/video.html
      If you plan your day well and take advantage of reaching, and not diving downwind you can sail all day long.
      Here are some pictures of a typical kayak sailing day, that include a track log of what we sailed and what we did not sail.
      I had several beginner kayak sailors with me, so I avoided some of the more difficult tacks and we still sailed about 75% of our miles.
      www.flickr.com/photos/falconsails/albums/72157712563766083
      With some planning you can sail most of your miles, and if you just go and not plan, you can still sail over 50% of your miles.
      If you want to sail paddle sail in good conditions, it is easy to sail most of your miles even if you do not plan anything.

    • @johngallagher912
      @johngallagher912 Před 3 lety +2

      @@FalconSails Thank you so much for your extensive reply. I was completely unaware of how much kayak sailing that has been done. Thought it was a new thing.
      It makes sense that the long hull of a kayak would need less control of sidetracking. The long hull itself acts as a daggerboard.
      Thanks again for your reply.

    • @patrickforrester3116
      @patrickforrester3116 Před 3 lety

      @@johngallagher912 I like the way you phrase it. "The long hull itself acts as a dagger board"