very much so,the asylum seekers is a lucrative business for the legal profession and the ones proving direct provision accommodation..look it up,the money involved is staggering and I can assure you that backhanders for contracts is rampant..
@Davis Reid that's scary but not shocking. Only use you tube . Don't do anything else online. One comment or misconstrue or Twitter could ruin your future 👍
It’s paradoxically to see Turbidity doing an interview on corruption when he was ‘given’ the Top Job in RTE ‘based on nepotism,’ while more capable candidates were excluded from consideration. Turbidity’s career was ‘handed’ to him by virtue of his grandfather being a top dog in RTE.
Left Ireland in 1984 and went to America. Got my education there as a registered nurse.! Ireland was like living in black and white. America was full colour tv! They liked me. They encouraged me. For the first time in my life I felt smart and wanted. Ireland was a banana republic!
Still is a banana republic, IMHO, I think the people of Ireland who vote for FG/FF/Labour do not think outside the box ! I wonder why they think that there's no alternative to govern us than the traitors we've all been screwed by since the foundation of the 'State'. It's just 'jobs for the boys', nothing changes because it's the usual chant "I'm alright Jack" 🙄
As much as I love Ireland,it's hard to deny the corruption with everything. It kind of makes you wonder really where the country is heading. What is more worrying is that a lot of Irish seem either completely oblivious to it or are just willing to accept it.
@@greenball9 going to hell in a hand cart. Henry Ford I think said if you think your government will look after you ask the native Americans how that worked out for them. It's a kip but with a lot of decent people who just want to be left to get on with things and not consider the consequences of fighting back against City Hall etc. I mean look what happened to that gentleman, Mr. Gilmartin.
Ff Fg and Labour BULLDOZED their way in. Sinn Fein did not have the numbers last time. Mary Lou will bethe next T shock and Pearse Doherty will be the next Finance Minister in 2025
Feel ashamed as an Irishman watching what they did to this man and the irish economy thereafter. How could anyone in all honesty vote Fianna fail back in?? .........just looked at the first 40secs again, ffs!!!
I would like to see an in-depth investigation to the Oil contracts and how the situation developed to where Ireland gets 0% Royalties for our Sovereign resources - who negotiated the contracts and what terms were agreed - including reviews which all favoured Shell - and where are the politicians who did this - this seriously needs looking into - considering the Corruption which is rampant in this country - and the Debt burden which could be resolved if Ireland were to receive Fair payment for our Assets....!
So true....cronyism and cute hoorism still alive and well. I always wondered as well why Ireland never did Norway style conditions or anything with some fall back for Ireland. Total waste of our resources....
Mr Joecool9999, Very good text. Well said. I'd rather try and lift the blarney stone up with one finger than try and change the shady nature of Irish politics!
@@paulkinsella6536 Hi Paul - that was 6 years ago bud and I've learned a whole lot more since - Globalism is Global communism - if we don't wake up about where we're heading we'll be living like the Chinese before long....!
RTE, and it’s ‘poster boy’ Turbidity, have always been a kip for journalism. There are so many relations working together in RTE who got their jobs on “pull,” that you could call it a family business. Turbidity got his job by nepotism, pretty much the same way as Simon Coveneys brother. So much for integrity and equal opportunities in RTE, it’s sickening -and they think the viewing public are dopes! Defund RTE!
Ryan Turbidy doesn't know his facts as a broadcaster - he's a prominent FF supporter as is evident here and fails to follow the discussion at a nember of points. I remember his maternal uncle, Niall Andrews, a Government minister at the time in 1980s double parking his ministerial Merc in d'Ollier street at the height of rush hour and letting the Irish peasants deal with it. Typical FF mafiosos
FF stands for F@€king Filth. FG stands for F@€king Gowls, bloodsuckering blueshirt pigs. All totally corrupt and should be banished from Ireland forever as all they do is milk is dry and give nothing in return. Someday these fake politicians will be a thing of the past if people stand up to them and their smarmy ways. Leo V is another totally useless leader that repeats back tricky questions and talks totally vile vomit! Shameless pigs the lot of them.
@@marthakelleher5106 FF & FG might have a lot to answer for, but if there is one party I hope never, ever wins, it's Sinn Fein. Murdering thugs, bullies, liars, extortionists, racketteers, dictators, as power hungry as Charlie Haughty ever was. They have no intention of leading a democratic nation but of crushing democracy and creating a dictatorship. We should carry out more investigations of their business interests and commercial tactics. I hope we will never fall into their hands. It will be a reign of terror, encouraging tit for tat retribution, thwarting rule of law and perverting justice whenever it will suit them. No siree, keep your shower of swindlers thanks. Bad enough they are in the Dail at all with their pretence of politics. Just to remind you: Sinn Fein do not have a monopoly on Republicanism in its original sense, nor are they the last bastion of it. They do not, and will never, speak for me. They also do not have a monopoly on speaking for the underdog or for the workers. They just use them as a means to an end. Until they admit everything, all they have killed or tortured, all they have done wrong, they can never be trusted. Ever. Their arrogance knows no bounds. Just look at all the flouting of the law for Bobby Storey's funeral. They do as they please. Criminals. That's what they are.
I moved to the U K in 1986, I left a Dublin full of corruption including a property development company, and I use that term loosely. Dublin is a property developer heaven and haven. The city is a mess with horrible developments, it’s an eyesore. You get ripped off in Temple Bar, and there is a latent begrudgery for leaving the place. I would never go back. The nicest Irish people I found were in the countryside. Dubliners are up their own behinds, not all though. The working class are the ones who lose out there. It’s all about who you know and what you can do for me attitude. It stinks
Very distressing to hear this story. It is interesting to hear that there was snobbery element to it as well. These guys really thought they were Top Dogs and that everyone should bow to them. To them Tom Gilmartin was a person who would not bow so they were out to get him.
Ryan Turbidy makes me sick. He genuinely skipped the two payments Ahearn took, explained to FF supporters as whip rounds and won it on the horses and no bank account etc. Taking us for fools. How the hell can any descent person support FF. The corruption was deeply impactful to everyone’s life as we never developed.
An Irishman extends his hand to a fellow Irishman on the streets of england, and the poor fellah wouldn't take a red cent. But then the Irishman travels home to help his fellow Irishmen, in Ireland. The politicians, like vultures, descend. They would have every cent and then drive him out of the country in which he was born. What is wrong with this picture?
On the back of watching this youtube clip a few weeks ago I bought Frank Connelly's book. I was a young Irish man in my early 20's in the mid 80's and was told to emigrate by Brian Lenihan senior, so I did what I was told and I am glad I did. I am fucking furious upon learning from this book of the level of corruption by Haughey and his mafia mob and their treatment of this good man Tom Gilmartin. And by the way - Finbar Hanrahan was my maths teacher up to my leaving cert and he was a shite teacher, as well as (it later turned out) a corrupt low level politician.
As one of the many, many thousands who had to leave Ireland in the eighties it's heartbreaking to hear how these immoral vultures ran our country into the ground and the level of contempt they had for anyone outside their golden circle. The hundreds of millions that was paid to solicitors during the lengthy tribunal that followed led to a few resignations and no legal action whatsoever and will forever be remembered to be just as shameful and as diabolical as what went on before it.
Absolutely disgusting what went on. The amounts of money being extorted by the politicians AND then by the solicitor class makes me sick. Constant emigration, the Irish youth leaving the country and its still going on to this day. To think these people still rule Ireland, like old money, they have the eternal means to stay on top, through property ownership, extortionate rents, opportunities to acquire more wealth, best rugby schools = tight generational networks Now we have the RTE scandal, nepotism, side deals, tax payers money squandered. Cunts the lot of them
Looked like Ryan may have tried to trip Mr. Gilmartin up with one question in particular, perhaps not, but the questions were handled admirably. Well done...
A hard working Irishman trying to make a difference for the people of Ireland. He was destroyed by the government that was elected to serve the people of Ireland. They were/are rotten to the core. Its disgusting.
I returned to Ireland from the states, Had an awful time, the contempt towards me by so called family and friends was shocking, I was lied to, ripped off and tortured for money, An awful experience .
@@Danny.r1 Be careful and make sure that your finances are in order, Spend time here, You might be surprised at what you will miss about America, The Irish do not do comfort and convenience at all, make sure you can return also, but at the end of it, The weather is awful, very hard to get used to, The sun is everything, Good luck
I tried to return from Canada, I was ripped off and exploited at every turn. Telling lies and obfuscation is the national hobby. Nobody did what they said they’d do. Parochial Ireland is still very much alive. Thank God I was able to return to the uncomplicated and sane life in Canada.
@@huub1989 just as well you got back to Canada, I cant return to Boston, Ireland despite what people say hasn't changed at all, still the same corrupt sneakie bullshit here, it's a very pretentious place, I'm leaving here again soon for the uk.
Let's make a international law, so it would be illegal for Politians to earn more than twice the minimum wage in their country. Spread the idea. Minimum wage would be very quickly raised for everyone.
Ireland is one of the most corrupt places on this planet. Paddy has no morals. The man on the street seems to applaud the 'cute hoors' who get up to this shady business.
Milton Keynes is a large new town built from scratch as an overflow to London. A major development. Gilmartin also had other developments in England Wales and the US but on smaller scales.
The £50,000 donation was a donation and nothing more. It was made specifically to a political party and not to an individual and it was proven beyond shadow of a doubt by the Mahon Tribunal that Tom Gilmartin made that donation to the party and had no idea Flynn was going to pocket it for himself and use it to buy a farm. He kept it illegally but it was not given illegally and this has been explained in detail in various interviews by the family, so cease with the libel please and thank you.
I'm reading the book at present and the abuse by Charles Haughey is criminal as well as the scum beneath him Say somethings by these people over the years .... There's less crooked people doing long stretches 😡
Was it worth it was a ridiculous question from tubridy, Tom Gil Martin was a straight up guy who was hounded for back handers by decision makers. Tom gilmartin did the country a huge favour in stopping this corruption. Tom you deserve a medal. Rest in peace
I don’t think the Irish people would think otherwise. Tom Gilmartin was treated very badly by a scumbag regime who would have circled the wagons if they got the chance.
I'm sorry , but surely it was a Cheque made out to his wife and that's how she cashed it and bought a farm ... How else could ya cash a cheque made out to FF and put it i.to to your personal accounts
Its this simple he is part of the government controlled RTE gaslighting machine, Simon Coveney FG minster for foreign affairs bro is director of strategy in fake news RTE that should tell you all you need to know.
Exactly , tubridy is a puppet for the Irish government. Like All of RTE he for his job there bcos of his family connections. How things work in Ireland. It happens everywhere but in Ireland seems particularly severe bcos it's a small country
Just wondering if Christy would still think we're in a better place now for all the corruption that was exposed then . I think the corruption will always be there except that it will be with new people. So really we are not in a better place and will never be.
Thanks a lot Thomas for speaking out on the Late Late. Very coherent . Ryan, good man for letting them speak all around. Time well shared. Well handled. Look forward to reading the book! and less forward to how I might feel after it!!
A good interview, but calling Ryan a good man? Seriously he a broadcaster, have you seen is paycheck? Us gobshites are paying these worker extortionate amounts.
Horrible piece of human crap there at the start. Ray Burke (fingal) another one. Just out of sheer coincidence his former mansion was sold off to where now lies....*drum roll*...a shopping centre.
This is a very important conversation. About a society - changing event. One thing that’s for certain, is that this good family took a lot of the weaponry out of the hands of the corrupt all over the world with their raw courage and spirit. They never did receive proper justice, and too many criminals got away. But Ireland is not the same. Corruption still abounds in the rest of the world as well, but at least people know to look for it because of his efforts. This family set out to improve economic prospects for the Irish, and really he did. This family believes the adage that all it takes for evil to prevail, is for good people to do nothing; and the proof of that is in their legacy and the Irish economy. They set the example of love and compassion in doing so much to lift their fellow-countrymen out of abject, desperate poverty.
You should read Frank Connelly's book. Its very good. Gilmartin did'nt need Lawlor, but Lawlor got wind that Gilmartin was asking questions about developments and pushed his way in and immediately demanded money. When Gilmartin refused, Lawlor and George Redmond made life impossible for him. This whole episode in Irish history is an absolute embarrassment.
The fact is,the common denominator with all parties involved is GREAD,all parties trying to achieve something in there lives,going about it in different ways. Big boys rules,move on.
Ethical bribes might be getting replaced or supplemented by Stakes , Legal corporate bribes , Maybe these were the good times, compare what happens in some countries with dictatorships and places being drained of oil while the locals live in poverty and fear. Was this just that politicians wanted their share for giving planning permission or giving out a contract to a developer, maybe its just business in way so long as you don't get caught. Ethical bribe means you don't sell out your country or do anything that might harm others
Thing is, Bertie's resignation was the best thing that ever happened to him as he got out right before the housing crash and Cowen had to take all the shit for that. Some people have all the luck.
Tom Gilmartin should not have entertained these politicians, even if he stood to lose out on a lucrative deal. A man of principle would have walked away. As for the politicians in question, weren`t they all given pardons afterwards. Speaking of which there was some guy recently who was given a posthumous pardon eighty odd years after he was hung. Seems to me all these pardons can only mean one thing, the Irish judiciary is not fit for purpose. Why else would they be making so many mistakes. The tribunal Gilmartin was involved in cost 200 mil and following all the pardons it was just a lot of hot air. The lesson here is that Ireland is just as corrupt now as it was then.
Pol This is victim-blaming (you wouldn't be a Fianna Fáil stooge, would you?). He was being subjected to extortion. Would you blame the Sicilian shopkeeper who is told he must pay over 'security money' or they won't be able to 'prevent' his shop being burned down? The man was clearly utterly honourable - he went to the Gardái and and no-one would help him. When you are put in the same position, and set to lose everything by 'walking away' then you can throw stones. Until then, you're a hurler on the ditch.
hmmm, youtube seems to have removed the 'reply' otption. Emily, I may have worded that poorly, as you seem to think I was attacking the Gilmartins. In fact I was attacking the rotten to the core FF party, so I'm sorry if you think I was trying to libel the innocent party in this. Yes it was a donation, but essentially FF made him believe he had to make a large 'donation' to avoid deliberate political obstructions to his project. When I asked why were the revenue commissioners not looking into this, I meant in the sense - as you say below of intended party funds being in effect stolen by Flynn for his own personal use. So again, why did Revenue never pursue him on this?? They were/are afraid to investigate a former EU kleptocrat?
I see what you meant now. I did take it the wrong way, as it has been a common accusation made by people who don't bother with the specifics of the true story. No hard feelings I hope. You are right, of course, in asking why nothing was done about Flynn's robbery and I can only reply to that by asking why they have done nothing about ANY of the crimes in this sordid story. As Thomas says in the interview, it is shocking that politicians in Ireland go unpunished. Ahern is still flying high with his properties in Europe of course and Owen O'Callahan is still seeking to make himself King of Cork and the people let him. Memories are short.
Was watching the interview with Colm Meaney....Of course all comments are cancelled. Just wanted to comment that during the interview Colm mentioned how much Martin McGuiness was villafied by the Irish press , the bold Mr Tubrity sat like a prick as he was at the foremost of the bias against any republican with both Adams and McGuiness getting non stop attacks.
Tubridy is some man talking about brown envelopes
😂😂😂
Tom Gilmartin is a true Irish Hero and needs an apology and frankly a statue. Men of honour are rarer and rarer now
And also a Sligo man!
This is still relevant today
very much so,the asylum seekers is a lucrative business for the legal profession and the ones proving direct provision accommodation..look it up,the money involved is staggering and I can assure you that backhanders for contracts is rampant..
And today.
Turbridy is clearly uncomfortable throughout this interview. He is a right little bollix.
He's one of the good old boys himself.
@Davis Reid that's scary but not shocking. Only use you tube . Don't do anything else online. One comment or misconstrue or Twitter could ruin your future 👍
Corruption dishonesty abuse of power makes me sick to my stomach
May your father rest in peace Tom and I'm so sorry that you had to go through that.
It’s paradoxically to see Turbidity doing an interview on corruption when he was ‘given’ the Top Job in RTE ‘based on nepotism,’ while more capable candidates were excluded from consideration. Turbidity’s career was ‘handed’ to him by virtue of his grandfather being a top dog in RTE.
There was nobody else considered.
Wasn't his grandfather a gun man for future Irish politicians?
I would have picked Miriam. She could have done a better Job than Tubs. He is good on the Toy show but not much else
Left Ireland in 1984 and went to America. Got my education there as a registered nurse.! Ireland was like living in black and white. America was full colour tv! They liked me. They encouraged me. For the first time in my life I felt smart and wanted. Ireland was a banana republic!
Still is a banana republic, IMHO, I think the people of Ireland who vote for FG/FF/Labour do not think outside the box ! I wonder why they think that there's no alternative to govern us than the traitors we've all been screwed by since the foundation of the 'State'. It's just 'jobs for the boys', nothing changes because it's the usual chant "I'm alright Jack" 🙄
As much as I love Ireland,it's hard to deny the corruption with everything. It kind of makes you wonder really where the country is heading. What is more worrying is that a lot of Irish seem either completely oblivious to it or are just willing to accept it.
Good for you👍✌🏼🇮🇪
@@greenball9 going to hell in a hand cart. Henry Ford I think said if you think your government will look after you ask the native Americans how that worked out for them. It's a kip but with a lot of decent people who just want to be left to get on with things and not consider the consequences of fighting back against City Hall etc. I mean look what happened to that gentleman, Mr. Gilmartin.
Ff Fg and Labour BULLDOZED their way in. Sinn Fein did not have the numbers last time. Mary Lou will bethe next T shock and Pearse Doherty will be the next Finance Minister in 2025
Feel ashamed as an Irishman watching what they did to this man and the irish economy thereafter. How could anyone in all honesty vote Fianna fail back in?? .........just looked at the first 40secs again, ffs!!!
Can't get it either snakes
Exactly. Memories are very short when it suits
Because Mammy and Daddy always have like!
Ryan's interviewing is dreadful, keeps interjecting with incorrect information
He's well out of his depth with this real story. He's best sticking to the children's toy show.
his son is so impressive
Terribly shocking stuff.
I would like to see an in-depth investigation to the Oil contracts and how the situation developed to where Ireland gets 0% Royalties for our Sovereign resources - who negotiated the contracts and what terms were agreed - including reviews which all favoured Shell - and where are the politicians who did this - this seriously needs looking into - considering the Corruption which is rampant in this country - and the Debt burden which could be resolved if Ireland were to receive Fair payment for our Assets....!
MrJoecool9999 your so right. It’s very fucking annoying
So true....cronyism and cute hoorism still alive and well. I always wondered as well why Ireland never did Norway style conditions or anything with some fall back for Ireland. Total waste of our resources....
Mr Joecool9999, Very good text. Well said. I'd rather try and lift the blarney stone up with one finger than try and change the shady nature of Irish politics!
@@paulkinsella6536 Hi Paul - that was 6 years ago bud and I've learned a whole lot more since - Globalism is Global communism - if we don't wake up about where we're heading we'll be living like the Chinese before long....!
@@aml8568 Because the Norwegian government know how to do things right.
It is still going on in 2023. MEHole Martin and Leo the Leak. It will NEVER change
News flash, this shit is still going on!
RTE, and it’s ‘poster boy’ Turbidity, have always been a kip for journalism. There are so many relations working together in RTE who got their jobs on “pull,” that you could call it a family business. Turbidity got his job by nepotism, pretty much the same way as Simon Coveneys brother. So much for integrity and equal opportunities in RTE, it’s sickening -and they think the viewing public are dopes! Defund RTE!
Preach, brother, preach.
What is that got to do with this video..
Turbiditous comment
Ryan Turbidy doesn't know his facts as a broadcaster - he's a prominent FF supporter as is evident here and fails to follow the discussion at a nember of points. I remember his maternal uncle, Niall Andrews, a Government minister at the time in 1980s double parking his ministerial Merc in d'Ollier street at the height of rush hour and letting the Irish peasants deal with it. Typical FF mafiosos
FF are absolute scum
FF stands for F@€king Filth. FG stands for F@€king Gowls, bloodsuckering blueshirt pigs. All totally corrupt and should be banished from Ireland forever as all they do is milk is dry and give nothing in return. Someday these fake politicians will be a thing of the past if people stand up to them and their smarmy ways. Leo V is another totally useless leader that repeats back tricky questions and talks totally vile vomit! Shameless pigs the lot of them.
@@KRAZEEIZATION People are standing up now so watch out for the Sinn Fein Tsunami and to hell with FF and FG.
@@marthakelleher5106 FF & FG might have a lot to answer for, but if there is one party I hope never, ever wins, it's Sinn Fein. Murdering thugs, bullies, liars, extortionists, racketteers, dictators, as power hungry as Charlie Haughty ever was. They have no intention of leading a democratic nation but of crushing democracy and creating a dictatorship. We should carry out more investigations of their business interests and commercial tactics. I hope we will never fall into their hands. It will be a reign of terror, encouraging tit for tat retribution, thwarting rule of law and perverting justice whenever it will suit them. No siree, keep your shower of swindlers thanks. Bad enough they are in the Dail at all with their pretence of politics. Just to remind you: Sinn Fein do not have a monopoly on Republicanism in its original sense, nor are they the last bastion of it. They do not, and will never, speak for me. They also do not have a monopoly on speaking for the underdog or for the workers. They just use them as a means to an end. Until they admit everything, all they have killed or tortured, all they have done wrong, they can never be trusted. Ever. Their arrogance knows no bounds. Just look at all the flouting of the law for Bobby Storey's funeral. They do as they please. Criminals. That's what they are.
@@marthakelleher5106 Good luck if you think SF are any better!!!
I moved to the U K in 1986, I left a Dublin full of corruption including a property development company, and I use that term loosely. Dublin is a property developer heaven and haven. The city is a mess with horrible developments, it’s an eyesore. You get ripped off in Temple Bar, and there is a latent begrudgery for leaving the place. I would never go back. The nicest Irish people I found were in the countryside. Dubliners are up their own behinds, not all though. The working class are the ones who lose out there. It’s all about who you know and what you can do for me attitude. It stinks
Very distressing to hear this story. It is interesting to hear that there was snobbery element to it as well. These guys really thought they were Top Dogs and that everyone should bow to them. To them Tom Gilmartin was a person who would not bow so they were out to get him.
Flynn / Kenny they both have shown the same attitude.
Load of country farmers who put on a suit and thought they were something. Useful idiots.
As if their exorbitant salaries wasn’t enough already , there they were sniffing around for bribes
If anyone thinks the era of brown envelopes is over you are mistaken.
worse than ever
As Thomas said,if your caught with a bit of weed there are blue lights all over your pad.
Coming from Colorado originally, I find it hilarious when the gaurds are posting on twitter their "raids"..meanwhile this stuff is grand.
Ryan Turbidy makes me sick. He genuinely skipped the two payments Ahearn took, explained to FF supporters as whip rounds and won it on the horses and no bank account etc. Taking us for fools. How the hell can any descent person support FF. The corruption was deeply impactful to everyone’s life as we never developed.
Wasn’t impactful to tubridys loyfe so doesn’t give a fuck
Jack Lynch was the last great T-shock. Then Cjh took over and all he'll broke loose
I noticed that too.
Thankgod that muppett tubrity is off the air, a horrible person
An Irishman extends his hand to a fellow Irishman on the streets of england, and the poor fellah wouldn't take a red cent. But then the Irishman travels home to help his fellow Irishmen, in Ireland. The politicians, like vultures, descend. They would have every cent and then drive him out of the country in which he was born. What is wrong with this picture?
Thomas Gilmartin did a great job of recounting a tale of the evils done by a corrupt state to his family and he did it with steel.
I'll never understand why people then or now would vote for FF.
Because they’re the same type of people, don’t wanna do an honest days work but wanna get a big payout in life, or farmers want their grants
@@michaelshine1555 Not always true.
Me either.
It’s a cult , their voters are brainwashed idiots that think they somehow salvaged this country and they are blameless
Shameful, they buried the poor man. Interviewer was cat too...
On the back of watching this youtube clip a few weeks ago I bought Frank Connelly's book. I was a young Irish man in my early 20's in the mid 80's and was told to emigrate by Brian Lenihan senior, so I did what I was told and I am glad I did. I am fucking furious upon learning from this book of the level of corruption by Haughey and his mafia mob and their treatment of this good man Tom Gilmartin. And by the way - Finbar Hanrahan was my maths teacher up to my leaving cert and he was a shite teacher, as well as (it later turned out) a corrupt low level politician.
Brian Lenihan was one of the few good ones in the shithole that was FF at that time
These guys were amateurs compared to the guys we have now. Sure they poisoned an entire nation 3 yrs ago.
As one of the many, many thousands who had to leave Ireland in the eighties it's heartbreaking to hear how these immoral vultures ran our country into the ground and the level of contempt they had for anyone outside their golden circle. The hundreds of millions that was paid to solicitors during the lengthy tribunal that followed led to a few resignations and no legal action whatsoever and will forever be remembered to be just as shameful and as diabolical as what went on before it.
Who brought vulture funds to Ireland? It was not Bertie. It was Michael Noonan and he wants to be the next T-Shock. You could not make it up
Absolutely disgusting what went on. The amounts of money being extorted by the politicians AND then by the solicitor class makes me sick. Constant emigration, the Irish youth leaving the country and its still going on to this day.
To think these people still rule Ireland, like old money, they have the eternal means to stay on top, through property ownership, extortionate rents, opportunities to acquire more wealth, best rugby schools = tight generational networks
Now we have the RTE scandal, nepotism, side deals, tax payers money squandered. Cunts the lot of them
Funny how tubridy talking about brown envelopes, and his whole family in corrupt fianna fail
Explains why he skipped over Bertie’s indiscretions.
It's concerning to see comments saying that very little has changed.
Looked like Ryan may have tried to trip Mr. Gilmartin up with one question in particular, perhaps not, but the questions were handled admirably. Well done...
God, this shocking ,they should have been in prison
Corrupt politicians...well I never...
Since the formation of the state P Flynn would be the complete embodiment of the typical Irish politician.
A hard working Irishman trying to make a difference for the people of Ireland. He was destroyed by the government that was elected to serve the people of Ireland. They were/are rotten to the core. Its disgusting.
FF Tubridy is completely incapable.
Tubridy totally out of his depth in this interview
I agree Tubridy was bad.
Toy show is about his level
Tubridy's a clown.
Our Lord Jesus Christ will judge them, no escape from him
it was an era of brown envelopes? like in past tence 😂
Beverly COOPER FLYNN
Was ??? Still is.
The real truth is buried.
Wow...what a gang of gangsters.😮
You get what you vote for.
The head ...full of it!
Tuberty chatting away about money corruption. 🙄🙄🙄
And what we have now are even more corrupt,
God help us.
What do you mean, "It WAS", it still IS, they are just more careful.
I returned to Ireland from the states,
Had an awful time, the contempt towards me by so called family and friends was shocking, I was lied to, ripped off and tortured for money,
An awful experience .
Can you explain? I'm also in the states and was thinking of moving back in the years to come.
@@Danny.r1 Be careful and make sure that your finances are in order, Spend time here, You might be surprised at what you will miss about America, The Irish do not do comfort and convenience at all, make sure you can return also, but at the end of it, The weather is awful, very hard to get used to, The sun is everything,
Good luck
I tried to return from Canada, I was ripped off and exploited at every turn. Telling lies and obfuscation is the national hobby. Nobody did what they said they’d do. Parochial Ireland is still very much alive. Thank God I was able to return to the uncomplicated and sane life in Canada.
@@huub1989 Damn, I didn't know ripping off people who returned was a thing. The begrudgery is definitely more noticeable though
@@huub1989 just as well you got back to Canada, I cant return to Boston, Ireland despite what people say hasn't changed at all, still the same corrupt sneakie bullshit here, it's a very pretentious place, I'm leaving here again soon for the uk.
Let's make a international law, so it would be illegal for Politians to earn more than twice the minimum wage in their country. Spread the idea. Minimum wage would be very quickly raised for everyone.
And it's still going on!!! Funded by the working class.
How is such a small country like lreland so corrupt?
Every country in the world is corrupt, just on different levels
@Anois Éire I did, you do raise some valid points with unchecked immigration but you lost me with John Waters I'm afraid.
Great hate/begrudgery & little room. That’s why. It’s ugly.
Ireland is one of the most corrupt places on this planet. Paddy has no morals. The man on the street seems to applaud the 'cute hoors' who get up to this shady business.
Leprechaun psychology - All the greedy mofos reincarnate here and are actually embodiments of that sinful characteristic - GREED
R T is coming across very badly here. Unsurprisingly.
" Milton Keynes , Wales and America " that company grew quick
Milton Keynes is a large new town built from scratch as an overflow to London. A major development. Gilmartin also had other developments in England Wales and the US but on smaller scales.
Still corrupt
No jail time!
Jesus! Tubridy is awful. Amazing information from the guests, despite Tubridy trying his best/worst!
P Flynn was like a duck!
And still it goes on ie Sean quinn
So.. last few minuites. Tubs asks .. Was it Worth it? to the son of a man who expossed huge corruption and lies"
what a puppet tubridy is
How the fuck do 900 days of legal waffle cost 300 million - photocopying expenses and catering?!
And here we are in lockdown! Great viewing
The £50,000 donation was a donation and nothing more. It was made specifically to a political party and not to an individual and it was proven beyond shadow of a doubt by the Mahon Tribunal that Tom Gilmartin made that donation to the party and had no idea Flynn was going to pocket it for himself and use it to buy a farm. He kept it illegally but it was not given illegally and this has been explained in detail in various interviews by the family, so cease with the libel please and thank you.
I'm reading the book at present and the abuse by Charles Haughey is criminal as well as the scum beneath him
Say somethings by these people over the years .... There's less crooked people doing long stretches 😡
Was it worth it was a ridiculous question from tubridy, Tom Gil Martin was a straight up guy who was hounded for back handers by decision makers.
Tom gilmartin did the country a huge favour in stopping this corruption.
Tom you deserve a medal.
Rest in peace
I don’t think the Irish people would think otherwise. Tom Gilmartin was treated very badly by a scumbag regime who would have circled the wagons if they got the chance.
I'm sorry , but surely it was a Cheque made out to his wife and that's how she cashed it and bought a farm ...
How else could ya cash a cheque made out to FF and put it i.to to your personal accounts
and this shit is still going on today... all over the country...
it's a filthy place
I'd like Irish people to tell me what they think of Ryan Tubridy. The impression I get is that he is very unpopular.
He is a muppet, complete tool
Its this simple he is part of the government controlled RTE gaslighting machine, Simon Coveney FG minster for foreign affairs bro is director of strategy in fake news RTE that should tell you all you need to know.
He is a political bollox just lik buk before him
Exactly , tubridy is a puppet for the Irish government. Like All of RTE he for his job there bcos of his family connections. How things work in Ireland. It happens everywhere but in Ireland seems particularly severe bcos it's a small country
Makes a person ashamed to be born in that country.
Tubs hosting a chat on corruption.
Watching in 2023
He did a great service to the Republic.
Just wondering if Christy would still think we're in a better place now for all the corruption that was exposed then . I think the corruption will always be there except that it will be with new people. So really we are not in a better place and will never be.
Tuds a snake in the grass!!
“And thus I clothe my naked villainy with old odd ends stolen forth from holy writ, and seem a saint when most I play the devil”
The son is fit.
And nothings changed
Nothing has changed in Ireland that is corrupted to the core
Thanks a lot Thomas for speaking out on the Late Late. Very coherent . Ryan, good man for letting them speak all around. Time well shared. Well handled. Look forward to reading the book! and less forward to how I might feel after it!!
A good interview, but calling Ryan a good man? Seriously he a broadcaster, have you seen is paycheck? Us gobshites are paying these worker extortionate amounts.
Shame Ryan pushed the topic on quickly when it got to Bertie and his grubby fingers in the pie!
Horrible piece of human crap there at the start. Ray Burke (fingal) another one. Just out of sheer coincidence his former mansion was sold off to where now lies....*drum roll*...a shopping centre.
did anyone go to jail.
This is a very important conversation. About a society - changing event. One thing that’s for certain, is that this good family took a lot of the weaponry out of the hands of the corrupt all over the world with their raw courage and spirit. They never did receive proper justice, and too many criminals got away. But Ireland is not the same. Corruption still abounds in the rest of the world as well, but at least people know to look for it because of his efforts. This family set out to improve economic prospects for the Irish, and really he did.
This family believes the adage that all it takes for evil to prevail, is for good people to do nothing; and the proof of that is in their legacy and the Irish economy. They set the example of love and compassion in doing so much to lift their fellow-countrymen out of abject, desperate poverty.
Brown envelopes that was than what is it now Ryan ...
I think this bloke is a relative of mine on my grandmothers side McDermott from sligo my grandmother married a leyden from ardtrasna small world
Why did Gilmartin need lawler to find out who owned the land at Quarryvale...?
You should read Frank Connelly's book. Its very good. Gilmartin did'nt need Lawlor, but Lawlor got wind that Gilmartin was asking questions about developments and pushed his way in and immediately demanded money. When Gilmartin refused, Lawlor and George Redmond made life impossible for him. This whole episode in Irish history is an absolute embarrassment.
Still prevalent.Read Julie Grace's book " Abuse of Power because Councils can :"
The fact is,the common denominator with all parties involved is GREAD,all parties trying to achieve something in there lives,going about it in different ways.
Big boys rules,move on.
Dirty politicians: Bertie & Tubby Alysious Lunchbox. Amadans all.
No wonder ireland is rotten to the core ffrs
very hard to listen too, what horrible people they are, No good deed goes unpunished. :(
Jesus Christ , 19:40 he’s basically accusing the lad of bribery when in fact it was extortion. Does tubridy know the difference? Absolute clown
Yes, he's trying to sway public opinion - effing puppet
Karma for Tubridy the W.anker
Cute hoors are feted in Ireland. The envelope culture is alive and well, it’s very much part of the culture in business and social settings.
An nothing has fucking changed today!
Ethical bribes might be getting replaced or supplemented by Stakes , Legal corporate bribes , Maybe these were the good times, compare what happens in some countries with dictatorships and places being drained of oil while the locals live in poverty and fear. Was this just that politicians wanted their share for giving planning permission or giving out a contract to a developer, maybe its just business in way so long as you don't get caught. Ethical bribe means you don't sell out your country or do anything that might harm others
Thing is, Bertie's resignation was the best thing that ever happened to him as he got out right before the housing crash and Cowen had to take all the shit for that. Some people have all the luck.
Same thing happened then, at time of this interview, and same thing again now. Hopelessness pushing younger generations out. What a damn shame.
Tom Gilmartin should not have entertained these politicians, even if he stood to lose out on a lucrative deal. A man of principle would have walked away. As for the politicians in question, weren`t they all given pardons afterwards. Speaking of which there was some guy recently who was given a posthumous pardon eighty odd years after he was hung. Seems to me all these pardons can only mean one thing, the Irish judiciary is not fit for purpose. Why else would they be making so many mistakes. The tribunal Gilmartin was involved in cost 200 mil and following all the pardons it was just a lot of hot air. The lesson here is that Ireland is just as corrupt now as it was then.
Pol This is victim-blaming (you wouldn't be a Fianna Fáil stooge, would you?). He was being subjected to extortion. Would you blame the Sicilian shopkeeper who is told he must pay over 'security money' or they won't be able to 'prevent' his shop being burned down? The man was clearly utterly honourable - he went to the Gardái and and no-one would help him. When you are put in the same position, and set to lose everything by 'walking away' then you can throw stones. Until then, you're a hurler on the ditch.
Mmm Id like to know how many then eeeejits bought "Arise And Follow Charlie" and who now will admit to having the song somewhere in their collection..
Banana republic septic isle.
hmmm, youtube seems to have removed the 'reply' otption.
Emily, I may have worded that poorly, as you seem to think I was attacking the Gilmartins. In fact I was attacking the rotten to the core FF party, so I'm sorry if you think I was trying to libel the innocent party in this.
Yes it was a donation, but essentially FF made him believe he had to make a large 'donation' to avoid deliberate political obstructions to his project.
When I asked why were the revenue commissioners not looking into this, I meant in the sense - as you say below of intended party funds being in effect stolen by Flynn for his own personal use.
So again, why did Revenue never pursue him on this?? They were/are afraid to investigate a former EU kleptocrat?
I see what you meant now. I did take it the wrong way, as it has been a common accusation made by people who don't bother with the specifics of the true story. No hard feelings I hope. You are right, of course, in asking why nothing was done about Flynn's robbery and I can only reply to that by asking why they have done nothing about ANY of the crimes in this sordid story. As Thomas says in the interview, it is shocking that politicians in Ireland go unpunished. Ahern is still flying high with his properties in Europe of course and Owen O'Callahan is still seeking to make himself King of Cork and the people let him. Memories are short.
Sublime Thinker
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The Irish Nepoleon summed them up You need a gallows at every corner to hang the traitors.
Tom Gilmartin +1
Was watching the interview with Colm Meaney....Of course all comments are cancelled. Just wanted to comment that during the interview Colm mentioned how much Martin McGuiness was villafied by the Irish press , the bold Mr Tubrity sat like a prick as he was at the foremost of the bias against any republican with both Adams and McGuiness getting non stop attacks.
2021, have things changed ?
Ydd
Joe Burke will look after you,. He did not Tom. The enforcer a new book about to come out.
Hi Toby