This was an excellent presentation! I started out with a standard leader and now use a micro leader, but I will definitely use either depending on stream conditions and variables! I find that the standard leader is definitely more versatile and can accommodate diverse rig setups as indicators, splitshot or heavier flies! If you talk to 6 guys on the water they would probably be using 6 different leader setups.The beuty of leaders is that you can modify them to your exact needs, and what you are comfortable with! Again great video!
Thanks Dom. Great video! I started my tight line journey with a "French style" Euro leader, tapering from 20# maximum down. Definitely easier to cast. My first foray into micro leader was disaster and had me relearning the cast. I'm now fishing 5x micro leader and lovin' it for many many situations. Two thoughts to add: there's an art to matching fly rod and leader formula. With 10.5' to 11' 2wt or 3wt Euro rod, with the right rod recovery profile, you can cast micro leader much easier than say a bouncy Euro rod or a versatile 9.5' 4wt. And that plays into leader selection. Also, sag goes directly to strike detection. I've found that "getting tight" from the start of the drift, with sensitive strike detection, lands me more fish when they're feeding subsurface. And 20# leaders don't provide me (personally) the same strike detection. In any case, you nailed it. This is about spending time on the water with different gear and leader formulas to know what's best for you personally to fish in each situation.
Just got back into fly fishing and I could not find a good podcast or videos that really could keep me captivated and I got to say troutbitten has. I’m constantly hooked and thinking different when It comes to meeting trout on there terms it’s for serious anglers who dont take them selves serious I love it thanks for the great content keep it coming
Excellent content, thanks for sharing. Over the past year I’ve experimented with a variety of Euro leader styles. Currently I’m fishing a modified micro formula. I found the super thin quality of a full micro difficult to control. It did help to start with a 20# version and go smaller from there as you mention. Tight lines! 🎣
been using 2X adams mono to 4x indicator mono and its my favorite so far with the rod i have. the white line often helps me find my sighter. i tried running rio 4x indicator mono the whole way, but its hard to handle. the 2X adams is similar to 6lb maxima.
Cool. I agree, all the bi color stuff is way too limp for me to make a full leader out of it. And if you do any stripping or streamer work, it loses its composure pretty quickly.
Super nuanced but I had wiskers on my sighter at least two of them, removed them as the sag was noticable although slight. Now rocking 10lb maxima for the leader. No taper, right to the sighter. River section over your shoulder at 5:48 is super juicy.
Thanks Dom, a really helpful video. What I appreciate most in your approach is that it is not predicted of conforming to competition rules, like so many videos technique lessons. Your videos seem to be designed for the recreational fly fisher. I was wondering about your thoughts on tippet diameter. I can understand needing to use a thin tippet for getting a small fly ( 18-24) down quickly when you really don't have the option of tying the fly of adding weight, other than to the fly itself, but if I'm using a drop shot system and my flies are very lightly weighted, does it really matter if use 6x rather than 4x ? Does the extra diameter really affect the drift that much ? Thanks very much !! Please keep up the good work !
Thanks. Here's an article for you about some of that: troutbitten.com/2020/01/26/why-you-may-not-need-the-crutch-of-6x-and-smaller-tippets/ But to your point, it hardly matters much, no. As long as the fly has some ability to move and flex around, It'll catch trout just as well. I strongly believe that trout are NOT tippet shy. They are drag shy. They don't care if they see your tippet.
Couldn't agree more. There is a place for micro leaders, but I think it was inadvertently purported to be a 'next step' in the whole Euro/Tightline game. While there is some truth to that it is probably better said that it is a more advanced but similar tactic for a limited number of scenarios that is more easily learned after becoming comfortable with a 12-20-lb leader. I spent a lot of last season fishing a micro leader, but I often commit to techniques for a finite period of time so I can really learn the ins and outs. Or, more importantly, I learn when they are NOT as effective or necessary. Honestly, it often felt like going around my elbow to get to my thumb. What I mean is that a 12,15,20-lb leader would in many scenarios be just as if not more effective. So, why give up power and control? This year I am carrying a spool of 12-lb amnesia in my front pocket and putting the 6-lb in the backpack. But, the the 6-lb will still be there for those scenarios or conditions that call for it.
I feel almost exactly the same. Well said. Like you, I also love spending long periods of time testing things. Even if I end up not liking them, I still get the benefit of learning a new angle or approach. Love where you are coming from, man.
Thanks Dominic for another top quality and highly educational video. I have a question with respect to your development of the Mono Rig. Did you ever use Amnesia in place of Maxima Chameleon ? Did you ever use a 24 ft. section of Amnesia in place of the Maxima Chameleon? If so, what were the results and what was your opinion? Thank you in advance for your time and consideration.
Hi David. Yes.. And I still use Amnesia for filming, a lot of the time. It's okay. It's second best. It's less powerful per diameter and gets a little stiffer in the wintertime than Chameleon. Red is softer than green. The color of America makes a difference too. It all adds up. Try it all, and see what you like. Cheers.
Hi there. Thanks. I use whatever form of weight works best for the situation. So, weighted flies, with bead and/or lead wraps, split shot or drop shot. For me, tungsten putty is a lot more bother than split shot. But if it might work for you and you'll love it. Couple articles might help . . . troutbitten.com/2018/02/21/fly-fishing-strategies-no-limits-fish-every-type-weight-available/ troutbitten.com/2022/07/13/dont-hate-split-shot-have-a-system-with-video/
Thanks for the comment. But I cannot agree that micro is better in the wind. It's underpowered, so there's no way to push through without overweighting the fly. Analogy: which is better in the wind, a 2 weight or 6 weight fly line? 6, right? Because it has more power. Same with the mono rigs. If we are CASTING these leaders, there's no doubt the standard rig does better in the wind. Those are my thoughts. But there are a lot of variables for everyone, too. Cheers.
@@Troutbitten that is also true. But i was referring to presentation of the fly... So after the cast has been made. My bad, didnt explain it well. I find it easier to cast same weight fly which will pull my micro leader than to cast with standard leader and same weight fly. I suppose we have different styles. Which is actually great. Cheers Vladimir
Right on. I also strongly prefer to use a tight line to the Indy when it's windy. But not everyone does that. I agree with you. I love that there are so many good ways to achieve similar results. Good to talk it through though too.
Dom, for me the standard rig is just right most of the time. I think that is because I still don’t have my casting skills where they need to be. When i feel like I have too much sag, adding some split shot really helps. Love your stuff, great video
Noob, here. Just made the standard mono. Any firm info on # of blood knot turns for each connection of that formula? Headed out today with my new rod and your leader! Thanks for all of the info!
Thank you for your awesome videos and informative articles. My fishing success has increased dramatically since I have applied what I have learned from your instructional materials. I would like to ask what method of connection and or knot do you use to connect your mono rig leader to your euro nymphing line? And, are you using mono core or braided core euro nymphing line? Thank you in advance for your time and consideration.
Thanks for your kind words. Could articles I've published on the Troutbitten website will answer your questions in great detail. Loop to Loop is Bad. Try Attaching Your Leader This Way: troutbitten.com/2019/03/06/loop-to-loop-is-bad-try-attaching-your-leader-to-the-fly-line-this-way/ And this one. Euro Nymphing Fly Line vs The Mono Rig troutbitten.com/2021/01/04/euro-nymphing-fly-line-vs-the-mono-rig Dig into those articles, please. Short answer version: Clinch knot to the fly line loop. And don't use a euro line because they are almost useless. Attach the Mono Rig to a regular fly line, keep your options open, and love your life.
This guy is good but the vernacular is very technical and lacking definition. Rod weight, trout bitten mono rig, micro rig, green butt verses red, tuck cast with mono, indie, and sighter line lengths and weights would be very helpful.
Hi Tony. Thank you, but what you seek is available to you here. Please understand that it is impossible to put every bit of knowledge in one short video. Troutbitten runs deep. There are 1000+ articles and 75+ podcasts. I linked to many supporting articles in the video, and they are in the description of this video. If you visit those articles and dig into the links contained there as well, you will find the answer to all of your questions. You can also feel free to email me, and I'll provide article links and answers. Understand that none of the Troutbitten material is intended to stand alone. Everything here builds on what has come before it. Things are a little different at Troutbitten. You are at the tip of a very large iceberg. Cheers.
Which leader would you say does better in high wind? On one hand I think micro leader would blow away like a feather, but on the other hand it'd catch less air drag from being thinner. Thoughts?
Oh, no doubt the Standard is my best bet in the wind. Sure it catches a bit more wind after the cast, but that's hardly noticeable. I like the way a more powerful leader punches through the wind. For me, it's that simple. Cheers.
Yes. Take a look at this. czcams.com/video/4xmgbTfyNsg/video.html There are also many links to more leader info in the companion Troutbitten article for that video. It is listed in the description. Cheers. Dom
Good question. Here's a video for you that I did on leader changes. You can switch in about one minute this way. czcams.com/video/4xmgbTfyNsg/video.html
We build up inventory and have a leader sale 3-4 times a year. They sell out in a few days, usually. Last time it was 800 leaders. Can't keep up with that year round, honestly, so it's a few times a year. Next one in July. Thank you.
Anybody use the standard mono rig for a single dry? Any negative reaction from fish getting spooked with the somewhat thick sighter section up above the fly as it drifts?
Yes, for sure. We fish it with a dry fly quite a bit. Here's a full Troutbitten article on that subject. troutbitten.com/2019/09/25/dry-flies-on-the-mono-rig/ Your question about sighters is addressed in there. Short answer is . . . sometimes. Ha
I guess I've been doing that since I was a kid. Just a rag for wiping hands and drying things. It can dry out a lot better while hanging there rather than balled up in a pocket.
Hi Dom, I really like the concept of the "standard" design, but what weight rod is your standard mono rig designed for ? I tried one up using your formula for my Euro rod, a 10'8 T&T 3 wt. and the line was WAY too heavy. Any suggestions for my rod ? Thanks much
Thanks for your question. So, everyone has there own way of doing things, and this is just my own. That said, I fundamentally disagree with your premise. The Standard Mono Rig fishes well on anything from a five weight down to a one weight fly rod. When you say the line was too heavy, I'm very confused. I assume you mean the leader -- the Mono Rig -- correct? But that 3 weight rod your talking about handles a three weight fly line beautifully. It casts dry flies with a weight forward 3WT fly line really well. So that fly line isn't too heavy, right? In fact, that's what the rod is built to handle. It loads nicely with a 3WT fly line. The Standard Mono Rig weighs about 1/4 of that fly line. So how could the Mono Rig be too heavy? Some of these articles are linked above as well, but here are three that will really help you understand the purpose and the functionality of the Mono Rig. Thin and Micro Thin Leaders for Euro Nymphing and the Mono Rig troutbitten.com/2021/02/07/thin-and-micro-thin-leaders-for-euro-nymphing-and-the-mono-rig/ Design and Function of the Troutbitten Standard Mono Rig troutbitten.com/2021/03/14/design-and-function-of-the-troutbitten-standard-mono-rig/ The Full Mono Rig System - All the variations, with formulas and adjustments troutbitten.com/2019/10/13/the-full-mono-rig-system-all-the-variations-with-formulas-and-adjustments/ Again, lots of good ways to do things, but these are my preferences. Cheers. Dom
Thanks for the quick reply, when I tried it out, the rod tip bent to the left and the leader flew very low and to the left. It just felt like the tip was overloaded. Any ideas ? Thanks much
@@rjf1877 Right on. I guess I'd ask if you understand my point about the 3 weight fly line. Not the rod nor the tip is certainly not overloaded by the Mono Rig. Know what I mean? Try learning to cast just the Mono Rig itself, with no fly or weight.
This was an excellent presentation! I started out with a standard leader and now use a micro leader, but I will definitely use either depending on stream conditions and variables! I find that the standard leader is definitely more versatile and can accommodate diverse rig setups as indicators, splitshot or heavier flies! If you talk to 6 guys on the water they would probably be using 6 different leader setups.The beuty of leaders is that you can modify them to your exact needs, and what you are comfortable with! Again great video!
True stuff
Thanks Dom. Great video! I started my tight line journey with a "French style" Euro leader, tapering from 20# maximum down. Definitely easier to cast. My first foray into micro leader was disaster and had me relearning the cast. I'm now fishing 5x micro leader and lovin' it for many many situations.
Two thoughts to add: there's an art to matching fly rod and leader formula. With 10.5' to 11' 2wt or 3wt Euro rod, with the right rod recovery profile, you can cast micro leader much easier than say a bouncy Euro rod or a versatile 9.5' 4wt. And that plays into leader selection.
Also, sag goes directly to strike detection. I've found that "getting tight" from the start of the drift, with sensitive strike detection, lands me more fish when they're feeding subsurface. And 20# leaders don't provide me (personally) the same strike detection.
In any case, you nailed it. This is about spending time on the water with different gear and leader formulas to know what's best for you personally to fish in each situation.
Thanks, Scott.
Just got back into fly fishing and I could not find a good podcast or videos that really could keep me captivated and I got to say troutbitten has. I’m constantly hooked and thinking different when
It comes to meeting trout on there terms it’s for serious anglers who dont take them selves serious I love it thanks for the great content keep it coming
Very cool. Thanks! Glad to know you connect with the stuff.
Excellent content, thanks for sharing. Over the past year I’ve experimented with a variety of Euro leader styles. Currently I’m fishing a modified micro formula. I found the super thin quality of a full micro difficult to control. It did help to start with a 20# version and go smaller from there as you mention. Tight lines! 🎣
Cheers.
Thank you 🐟👍
Right on. Thanks for your support.
Another great video. Very professional, filled with great info and fun to watch. Thanks.
Nice. Thank you.
Nice Job Guys….excellent presentation. Josh is spot on again with his video skills.
Absolutely.
been using 2X adams mono to 4x indicator mono and its my favorite so far with the rod i have. the white line often helps me find my sighter.
i tried running rio 4x indicator mono the whole way, but its hard to handle.
the 2X adams is similar to 6lb maxima.
Cool. I agree, all the bi color stuff is way too limp for me to make a full leader out of it. And if you do any stripping or streamer work, it loses its composure pretty quickly.
Awesome! Thanks for clarifying.
Right on
Super nuanced but I had wiskers on my sighter at least two of them, removed them as the sag was noticable although slight. Now rocking 10lb maxima for the leader. No taper, right to the sighter. River section over your shoulder at 5:48 is super juicy.
Cheers
Great video. Perfect level of detail. Thanks Dom and Happy St. Patty’s Day!
Thanks, Scott.
Thanks Dom, a really helpful video. What I appreciate most in your approach is that it is not predicted of conforming to competition rules, like so many videos technique lessons. Your videos seem to be designed for the recreational fly fisher.
I was wondering about your thoughts on tippet diameter. I can understand needing to use a thin tippet for getting a small fly ( 18-24) down quickly when you really don't have the option of tying the fly of adding weight, other than to the fly itself, but if I'm using a drop shot system and my flies are very lightly weighted, does it really matter if use 6x rather than 4x ? Does the extra diameter really affect the drift that much ? Thanks very much !! Please keep up the good work !
Thanks. Here's an article for you about some of that:
troutbitten.com/2020/01/26/why-you-may-not-need-the-crutch-of-6x-and-smaller-tippets/
But to your point, it hardly matters much, no. As long as the fly has some ability to move and flex around, It'll catch trout just as well. I strongly believe that trout are NOT tippet shy. They are drag shy. They don't care if they see your tippet.
Couldn't agree more. There is a place for micro leaders, but I think it was inadvertently purported to be a 'next step' in the whole Euro/Tightline game. While there is some truth to that it is probably better said that it is a more advanced but similar tactic for a limited number of scenarios that is more easily learned after becoming comfortable with a 12-20-lb leader.
I spent a lot of last season fishing a micro leader, but I often commit to techniques for a finite period of time so I can really learn the ins and outs. Or, more importantly, I learn when they are NOT as effective or necessary. Honestly, it often felt like going around my elbow to get to my thumb. What I mean is that a 12,15,20-lb leader would in many scenarios be just as if not more effective. So, why give up power and control?
This year I am carrying a spool of 12-lb amnesia in my front pocket and putting the 6-lb in the backpack. But, the the 6-lb will still be there for those scenarios or conditions that call for it.
I feel almost exactly the same. Well said. Like you, I also love spending long periods of time testing things. Even if I end up not liking them, I still get the benefit of learning a new angle or approach. Love where you are coming from, man.
Thanks Dominic for another top quality and highly educational video.
I have a question with respect to your development of the Mono Rig. Did you ever use Amnesia in place of Maxima Chameleon ? Did you ever use a 24 ft. section of Amnesia in place of the Maxima Chameleon? If so, what were the results and what was your opinion? Thank you in advance for your time and consideration.
Hi David. Yes.. And I still use Amnesia for filming, a lot of the time. It's okay. It's second best. It's less powerful per diameter and gets a little stiffer in the wintertime than Chameleon. Red is softer than green. The color of America makes a difference too. It all adds up. Try it all, and see what you like.
Cheers.
Great discussion of tradeoffs- you do this well. And your body language demonstrations of concepts (turnover, etc) is really good.
Thanks very much, Martin!
Bravo, bel video ( nice video.)greetings from Italy, ciao
cheers
Amazing Fishing technique
Lots of control over the flies.
New to fly fishing, love your channel, What about using putty to add more weight to get flys diwn. Never hear anybody talk about it
Hi there. Thanks.
I use whatever form of weight works best for the situation. So, weighted flies, with bead and/or lead wraps, split shot or drop shot. For me, tungsten putty is a lot more bother than split shot. But if it might work for you and you'll love it.
Couple articles might help . . .
troutbitten.com/2018/02/21/fly-fishing-strategies-no-limits-fish-every-type-weight-available/
troutbitten.com/2022/07/13/dont-hate-split-shot-have-a-system-with-video/
Excellent video. I would add one more benefit for micro... Its better for windy conditions.... While thicker one can be a bit tricky to use.
Cheers
Thanks for the comment. But I cannot agree that micro is better in the wind. It's underpowered, so there's no way to push through without overweighting the fly. Analogy: which is better in the wind, a 2 weight or 6 weight fly line? 6, right? Because it has more power. Same with the mono rigs. If we are CASTING these leaders, there's no doubt the standard rig does better in the wind. Those are my thoughts. But there are a lot of variables for everyone, too.
Cheers.
@@Troutbitten that is also true. But i was referring to presentation of the fly... So after the cast has been made. My bad, didnt explain it well.
I find it easier to cast same weight fly which will pull my micro leader than to cast with standard leader and same weight fly. I suppose we have different styles. Which is actually great. Cheers
Vladimir
Right on. I also strongly prefer to use a tight line to the Indy when it's windy. But not everyone does that.
I agree with you. I love that there are so many good ways to achieve similar results.
Good to talk it through though too.
Dom, for me the standard rig is just right most of the time. I think that is because I still don’t have my casting skills where they need to be. When i feel like I have too much sag, adding some split shot really helps. Love your stuff, great video
Good stuff. And I would argue that it takes MORE casting skill to make the standard rig work than to make a micro rig work.
Thank you for sharign the advice about "don't trust your buddy" 🤣"test this stuff for yourself".
That's definitely key.
Noob, here. Just made the standard mono. Any firm info on # of blood knot turns for each connection of that formula? Headed out today with my new rod and your leader! Thanks for all of the info!
I use 3-4 turns in the thicker materials and five turns in the thinner stuff (2X or smaller). Cheers.
Thank you for your awesome videos and informative articles. My fishing success has increased dramatically since I have applied what I have learned from your instructional materials.
I would like to ask what method of connection and or knot do you use to connect your mono rig leader to your euro nymphing line? And, are you using mono core or braided core euro nymphing line?
Thank you in advance for your time and consideration.
Thanks for your kind words. Could articles I've published on the Troutbitten website will answer your questions in great detail.
Loop to Loop is Bad. Try Attaching Your Leader This Way:
troutbitten.com/2019/03/06/loop-to-loop-is-bad-try-attaching-your-leader-to-the-fly-line-this-way/
And this one.
Euro Nymphing Fly Line vs The Mono Rig
troutbitten.com/2021/01/04/euro-nymphing-fly-line-vs-the-mono-rig
Dig into those articles, please.
Short answer version:
Clinch knot to the fly line loop.
And don't use a euro line because they are almost useless. Attach the Mono Rig to a regular fly line, keep your options open, and love your life.
This guy is good but the vernacular is very technical and lacking definition. Rod weight, trout bitten mono rig, micro rig, green butt verses red, tuck cast with mono, indie, and sighter line lengths and weights would be very helpful.
Hi Tony. Thank you, but what you seek is available to you here. Please understand that it is impossible to put every bit of knowledge in one short video. Troutbitten runs deep. There are 1000+ articles and 75+ podcasts. I linked to many supporting articles in the video, and they are in the description of this video. If you visit those articles and dig into the links contained there as well, you will find the answer to all of your questions. You can also feel free to email me, and I'll provide article links and answers.
Understand that none of the Troutbitten material is intended to stand alone. Everything here builds on what has come before it. Things are a little different at Troutbitten. You are at the tip of a very large iceberg.
Cheers.
I understand all of what he is talking about. get to studying.
Great video, as always Dom. What's the deal with those rubber bands over your gloves? Thanks for sharing all your knowledge
Thanks very much. Here ya go.
troutbitten.com/2018/11/11/fly-fishing-in-the-winter-your-hands/
@@Troutbitten Thank you! And great apperance at Toms podcast, keep preaching! Love it
Which leader would you say does better in high wind? On one hand I think micro leader would blow away like a feather, but on the other hand it'd catch less air drag from being thinner. Thoughts?
Oh, no doubt the Standard is my best bet in the wind. Sure it catches a bit more wind after the cast, but that's hardly noticeable. I like the way a more powerful leader punches through the wind. For me, it's that simple.
Cheers.
Curious do you have a video on how you like to rig your leaders?
Yes. Take a look at this.
czcams.com/video/4xmgbTfyNsg/video.html
There are also many links to more leader info in the companion Troutbitten article for that video. It is listed in the description.
Cheers.
Dom
Ok about getting flies to the target etc. that then shit gonna break with th first big trout grabs yr fly
On a micro leader that is definitely another problem. As I said, it's not my favorite. The Standard doesn't have that issue..
Cheers.
How are you switching up leader types on the stream? I can't imagine you're cutting/tieing the connection to the fly line or bring each time?
Good question. Here's a video for you that I did on leader changes. You can switch in about one minute this way.
czcams.com/video/4xmgbTfyNsg/video.html
Why is the micro leader fun to use lol? Always love the bloopers at the end.
I forgot. Ha.
For the 2 ft transition live, I can’t find Maxima HV 12 lb anywhere, including online, as it is out of stock. What else should a person use?
Try Chameleon, Amnesia or Sufix Siege in 12 lb.
I continually check your store to buy a Mono and they are always out of stock. Do you know when you'll get more?
We build up inventory and have a leader sale 3-4 times a year. They sell out in a few days, usually. Last time it was 800 leaders. Can't keep up with that year round, honestly, so it's a few times a year. Next one in July. Thank you.
Nice👍
Thank you.
Anybody use the standard mono rig for a single dry? Any negative reaction from fish getting spooked with the somewhat thick sighter section up above the fly as it drifts?
Yes, for sure. We fish it with a dry fly quite a bit. Here's a full Troutbitten article on that subject.
troutbitten.com/2019/09/25/dry-flies-on-the-mono-rig/
Your question about sighters is addressed in there. Short answer is . . . sometimes. Ha
@@Troutbitten thanks so much, just getting into the videos and articles, been listening to the podcast for awhile too. Great stuff!
@@TroutDaze Thanks
Is it expected or beneficial to go from a 3wt with the standard leader to a 2wt with the micro leader?
No, not at all in my opinion.
Also what’s the secret with the rubber bands on the hands !!?! I’m puzzled
Ha. Common question. Here ya go.
troutbitten.com/2018/11/11/fly-fishing-in-the-winter-your-hands/
@@Troutbitten I read the article and I gotta say I like the way you party!! Glad I discovered the trout bitten way of life thanks !!
I am trying to duplicate your standard leader formula but cannot find maxima hv 12 pound anywhere. I’d there a good substitute?
Hi there. Check the Maxima website.. Prices and shipping are good, and it's almost always in stock. If not, my favorite backup is Sufix Superior.
Whats the deal with the handkerchief hanging off the back?
I guess I've been doing that since I was a kid. Just a rag for wiping hands and drying things. It can dry out a lot better while hanging there rather than balled up in a pocket.
Hi Dom, I really like the concept of the "standard" design, but what weight rod is your standard mono rig designed for ? I tried one up using your formula for my Euro rod, a 10'8 T&T 3 wt. and the line was WAY too heavy. Any suggestions for my rod ? Thanks much
Thanks for your question. So, everyone has there own way of doing things, and this is just my own. That said, I fundamentally disagree with your premise. The Standard Mono Rig fishes well on anything from a five weight down to a one weight fly rod. When you say the line was too heavy, I'm very confused. I assume you mean the leader -- the Mono Rig -- correct? But that 3 weight rod your talking about handles a three weight fly line beautifully. It casts dry flies with a weight forward 3WT fly line really well. So that fly line isn't too heavy, right? In fact, that's what the rod is built to handle. It loads nicely with a 3WT fly line. The Standard Mono Rig weighs about 1/4 of that fly line. So how could the Mono Rig be too heavy?
Some of these articles are linked above as well, but here are three that will really help you understand the purpose and the functionality of the Mono Rig.
Thin and Micro Thin Leaders for Euro Nymphing and the Mono Rig
troutbitten.com/2021/02/07/thin-and-micro-thin-leaders-for-euro-nymphing-and-the-mono-rig/
Design and Function of the Troutbitten Standard Mono Rig
troutbitten.com/2021/03/14/design-and-function-of-the-troutbitten-standard-mono-rig/
The Full Mono Rig System - All the variations, with formulas and adjustments
troutbitten.com/2019/10/13/the-full-mono-rig-system-all-the-variations-with-formulas-and-adjustments/
Again, lots of good ways to do things, but these are my preferences.
Cheers.
Dom
Thanks for the quick reply, when I tried it out, the rod tip bent to the left and the leader flew very low and to the left. It just felt like the tip was overloaded. Any ideas ? Thanks much
@@rjf1877 Right on. I guess I'd ask if you understand my point about the 3 weight fly line. Not the rod nor the tip is certainly not overloaded by the Mono Rig. Know what I mean? Try learning to cast just the Mono Rig itself, with no fly or weight.
Your right. It must be “pilot error “ ! I’ll give it more practice time. Thanks very much for your help.
@@rjf1877 Sure thing. I guess I run into a lot of misunderstandings about the whole thing. Cheers.