15F Punishers Ranked WORST to BEST | Data Comparison | TEKKEN 8

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  • čas přidán 31. 07. 2024
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    In this series, we're answering the unanswered question of who has the best punishment in TEKKEN 8. This is the third instalment, where we'll be collecting and comparing to find who has the best 15 frame punishers. Hope you enjoy!
    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Intro
    00:14 - Rankings
    02:23 - Top 10
    Music:
    TEKKEN 7 OST - Souq
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Komentáře • 72

  • @bentzacka
    @bentzacka Před 22 dny +23

    important to note that leroy's 15f punish rotates the opponent to face leroy directly, meaning leroy does not have to do a different combo and sacrifice damage if he were to sidewalk an opponent and launch them.

  • @Uchiha_Sasuke209
    @Uchiha_Sasuke209 Před 22 dny +21

    for Jun db1 1 1+2 is probably better more dmg and heals also triggers wall breaks

  • @jumbopiece2301
    @jumbopiece2301 Před 22 dny +16

    How many Jun's have you fought that made you think THAT was her best 15f punish?

    • @DOGRE__
      @DOGRE__ Před 21 dnem

      I found it a little funny the video opens with that example lol

  • @HoDoBoDo
    @HoDoBoDo Před 22 dny +29

    Mistake at the end, Claudio's i15 launcher is df1,2 not df2,1.

  • @avoidthevo1d
    @avoidthevo1d Před 22 dny +6

    The bear's 15f launcher is arguably the best 15f punish considering the range it has. Bears can launch punish moves that others struggle to. Jack's atlus hammer? Kazuya's new string? No problem

  • @SebuKaz
    @SebuKaz Před 21 dnem +4

    Confused on why Shaheen’s hop kick is so much lower compared to Claudio seeing as it’s the same move, albeit Claudio out ranges by a measly .01. Shaheen should be 2nd here imo

    • @vlight9713
      @vlight9713 Před 21 dnem

      true i am a claudio main myself

    • @alexonstott4954
      @alexonstott4954 Před 20 dny

      I think it's an overall character ranking. Claudio's df1,2 is much better than shaheens other option

    • @SebuKaz
      @SebuKaz Před 20 dny

      @@alexonstott4954 that’s not the move I’m talking about. Also, please explain how df1,2 is better than a low crushing hop kick, which they both have and it has the same range

    • @alexonstott4954
      @alexonstott4954 Před 19 dny

      ​@@SebuKazhalf the cast has a low crushing hop kick. Claudio is better because df1,2 is much better than Shaheen df2

  • @rasaa7227
    @rasaa7227 Před dnem

    Nina's b1+4 is underrated. It leads to the highest damage at i15 among the whole cast (95 dmg in open space without rage, heat or walls). Plus it has big range and launches crouching opponents.

  • @w_smith_1990
    @w_smith_1990 Před 22 dny

    Another guide let’s go ❤

  • @ChayBenji
    @ChayBenji Před 22 dny +5

    Cant believe I have to qualify this but I've seen people yapping in the comments...It's a punishment tierlist.
    How safe the move is doesn't matter, just the range and the reward, damage / oki.
    Also, some launchers were shown in prior iterations of this series, this is strictly i15, go watch them.
    Though Jun's i15 punish is db1,1,1+2*

    • @Gorecatto
      @Gorecatto Před 22 dny

      Werent electrics shown at 14f ? Am i tripping ?

    • @ChayBenji
      @ChayBenji Před 22 dny

      @Gorecatto Ah yes my mistake I forgot!

    • @SmellyYT
      @SmellyYT Před 22 dny

      While that is a completely true argument, I still kinda think having a safe launcher is important. You're not always going to react to every move on time or there are times when the game takes your input late due to lag or whatever, especially when you've guarded moves that are hard to perfectly react like Leroy's ff2,2 or Jin's samsara. I would also consider ease of use as well.
      Like dvj's 15 launcher for example, here it's number 2 on the list but the fact that it's a move with a down command(which isn't usual for a 15f launcher) and the fact that it's death sentence on block, most people don't usually think about it constantly, making it slower to use reactively. I think, psychologically, having a safer and easier-to-use move would make you think about it more and thus make it more reliable to be used on reaction.
      Including what you've said, I think the video is pretty pointless when it comes to practicality and in-game usefulness. Also, the factors that were considered in the rankings were really vague and lacked explanation(I understand he wanted the video to be short and simple). That's why I think people are really critical in the comments.
      Personally, I also have gripes such as how is Lee worse than Feng, how is Victor only 15th on the rankings, and while I get that combo damage wasn't a factor what's the point of having good damage if the combo route is so limited and leads to having very poor combo.

  • @bignate
    @bignate Před 22 dny +2

    Only d/f+4,4,3 is guaranteed for Raven. f,f+4 only hits if the opponent moves on the ground.

    • @NM-rj4gk
      @NM-rj4gk Před 21 dnem

      Yeah I was wondering why he didn’t just complete the string

  • @MrYourDry
    @MrYourDry Před 22 dny

    Leaving a comment for your analytics

  • @Linoangelo00
    @Linoangelo00 Před 22 dny +1

    Yoshimitsu hopkick goes over mids and high. Def top 5

  • @queencard97
    @queencard97 Před 22 dny +4

    People dont realize Xiaoyu has really good punishments

  • @Dreadnaugh7Class
    @Dreadnaugh7Class Před 22 dny

    Get your key input display corrected...the command direction input of 2 hit 15f launcher is correct...but the 2nd hit key is displayed first. Rest of the vid is great...keep it up 👍😊

  • @YellowFellow86
    @YellowFellow86 Před 22 dny

    Wouldn't have thought Leroy's would be that good?

  • @ahnixcreations
    @ahnixcreations Před 3 dny

    I get that electric is impractical as a punish, but jet upper is bufferable ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ so you’d think it counts. These picks feel pretty arbitrary.

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  • @GloryBlazer
    @GloryBlazer Před 22 dny +11

    Honestly the important information here is highest damaging punisher for i15, not specifically i15.
    Also the next important parameters are range of the punisher, ammount of hits before combo, the way in which it launches them and following combo routes.
    None of this has been factored in, making the video pointless outside of showing which chars don't have i15 launcher.

  • @SeanMz
    @SeanMz Před 21 dnem

    Lee's acid storm has really good range
    I think it's top10

  • @sameerkhan12670
    @sameerkhan12670 Před 21 dnem

    Kazuya needs a 15 frame launcher and I know that EWGF exists, but in online matches it is hard to punish with EWGF

    • @TheDocbach
      @TheDocbach Před 21 dnem +1

      They haven't given him an easy 15 frame punish for well over 4 Tekken titles. It's pretty much a part of the characters identity. He is notoriously execution heavy.

  • @ejrodriguez5719
    @ejrodriguez5719 Před 22 dny

    anti-Alisa guide please 🥺🥺

  • @77oAl3xo77
    @77oAl3xo77 Před 21 dnem +2

    I don't get any of the ranking at all tbh. What "stats" are taken into account? How is Shaheen low tier when Claudio is up high, when their hopkicks are the same range? Why is Nina in top 10 when her df2 is stubby and b1+4 is 2 hits? How does that make her i15 punish better than Lee's? His are just as short ranged.

  • @ego_destructor
    @ego_destructor Před 21 dnem

    Please make anti Alisa video 🙏

  • @myspaceuser
    @myspaceuser Před 19 dny

    that jun punishment is wrong lol

  • @M1ROHPLAY
    @M1ROHPLAY Před 18 dny

    Raven has f4 > ff2

  • @lznoswt
    @lznoswt Před 22 dny +3

    these comments make it obvious how bad reading comprehension is in the US.

  • @kolaman18
    @kolaman18 Před 21 dnem

    Half of these should not connect

  • @farhadnouroozi3378
    @farhadnouroozi3378 Před 22 dny +2

    How shaheen and lee are that low?
    Lees f333 ia probably most conaistant i15 punish in the game
    Your videos dont make sense

  • @GoodnightWonderland
    @GoodnightWonderland Před 22 dny

    Reina can do df3,2 to access wind god fist without execution for punishment, in heat it's a true electric, it's very conssistent so imo she should be higher

    • @Gorecatto
      @Gorecatto Před 22 dny

      Technically she (and kazuya) could be in first place in 13f punishers
      But he did said that didnt want to consider combo damage, just mostly the range

    • @filippo1420
      @filippo1420 Před 21 dnem

      it's not i15

  • @MrSamuelAdam4
    @MrSamuelAdam4 Před 22 dny +5

    I'm sorry but this list is horrible & you missed some too.

  • @danielsteffee7957
    @danielsteffee7957 Před 22 dny +1

    Nonsense. Yoshimitsu was ranked 13th, yet has maybe the best df2 in the game, because it's safe (-7 ob) and launches crouching opponents on CH or on hit +4s~+5s. I don't know of any other safe df2 that can launch crouching.
    And others, like Paul's, are good for their evasive properties. Yet Devil Jin is ranked 2nd despite having none of this?

    • @squiddyseut6103
      @squiddyseut6103 Před 20 dny

      It doesnt launch crouching, also this video is for punishment and not application (evasion and safety)

  • @facha8089
    @facha8089 Před 22 dny

    Leroy's df2 is i16

  • @enerdgeticu
    @enerdgeticu Před 22 dny

    I personally think yoshimitsu has the best 15f with his df2. It dodges high attacks like jabs and is safe at -7 if blocked!

    • @riceyboi7069
      @riceyboi7069 Před 22 dny +2

      Remember, he's talking about it as a 15f punisher, not just as a 15f launcher. I think range is a big factor here, since Jin and Devil Jins cancan are really shit moves to just throw out, but as punishers they have great range and lead to 90+ combo dmg routes.

    • @Dr.Happy11
      @Dr.Happy11 Před 22 dny

      Paul, Hwoarang, Lee, Shaheen, Law, Nina, with the same df2, lookin at this comment like 👀

    • @enerdgeticu
      @enerdgeticu Před 22 dny

      @@Dr.Happy11 theirs do not duck highs

    • @enerdgeticu
      @enerdgeticu Před 22 dny

      @@riceyboi7069 is that why Claudio was ranked no.1? Cause of the range of both the 15f?

    • @Dr.Happy11
      @Dr.Happy11 Před 22 dny

      @@enerdgeticu They do jab crush, similarly to Yoshi's.

  • @crazy911wman
    @crazy911wman Před 22 dny +1

    How is djin so high? His d3+4 is death on block

    • @GloryBlazer
      @GloryBlazer Před 22 dny +2

      its block punshment, but it still doesnt make sense since the actual combos are what matters and not launcher damage.

    • @marioster2
      @marioster2 Před 22 dny

      On block. This is hit ranking, and dvj blows up armor with d3+4

    • @GloryBlazer
      @GloryBlazer Před 22 dny +3

      @@marioster2 its Punishers. that means you are guaranteed to land the attack as the enemy recovers.

    • @Dr.Happy11
      @Dr.Happy11 Před 22 dny

      If you use it as a punisher and your opponent blocks it, you're the bottom tier not DJs cancan mlao

    • @crazy911wman
      @crazy911wman Před 22 dny

      @@Dr.Happy11 Oh youre right! Every punisher could be -100 on block and it wouldnt change anything. Youre genius

  • @loupast7587
    @loupast7587 Před 22 dny

    Why is xiaoyu in 6th place? There many 15f launchers more better and safer than hers

    • @ChayBenji
      @ChayBenji Před 22 dny +1

      It's a punishment tierlist.
      How safe the move is doesn't matter, just the range and the reward, damage / oki.

    • @loupast7587
      @loupast7587 Před 22 dny

      @@ChayBenji oh i see

  • @shvrberi
    @shvrberi Před 22 dny +1

    Reina shouldn’t have df2. Learn to electric, you lazies

    • @atlante4368
      @atlante4368 Před 21 dnem

      Meanwhile, they took Devil Jin's CH df+2 from him...