Then you are not familiar with the Bible, the very book you base your beliefs on. The Bible says veganism is a doctrine of devils.www.learnthebible.org/vegetarianism-a-doctrine-of-devils-1-timothy-41-3.html
Hi, I am a Christian and a new Vegan, thank you for this video. How can we love our neighbor without caring for the planet you leave for them and their children. I am a survivor of Covid and the way I’ve eaten my entire life has given me health issues that made me more vulnerable to Covid. I’m so thankful to Christ for bringing me through the virus and for changing my mind about what I put in my body. Our bodies are a temple of God and we should maintain it and keep it as healthy as possible in order to serve others I’ve found that easier to do by eating a plant based diet. Be blessed and thank you again
My hurt is burning for this topic. I am a Christian and I have been vegan for 7 years. I cannot tell you how badly it hurts me to see churches celebrating holidays with meat filled barbecues and to rejoice with one another when one of them goes hunting and gets a "great kill". That is NOT the heart of God. Love is kind. It is not self serving. Thank you for laying this out so well. I hope and pray that Jesus begins to change people's hearts so that they will love more compassionate lives.
You have not yet been bought up to speed then..... For after the great flood, God now introduces and so welcomed all meats into our diets. "God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth. 2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered. 3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things." Gen 9:1-3 (KJV) Hurrah!
Gal 5:22-23 Gentleness, meekness. We are not supposed to be men of violence. Shedding blood is the way of death. Didache 1:1 says there is a way of life and a way of death, choose life. James the brother of Jesus and bishop of Jerusalem was vegan. Eusebius says he was raised that way by Mary and Joseph. Food for thought!
@@thewatcher7728 Yeah! but context matters, to whom and when did God give that permission to, it was to FALLEN human beings with a FALLEN nature in a FALLEN world, it was the vegan creation of Genesis 1 that God declared as "very good" but he never said it about the fallen carnivorous creation of Genesis 9 which is why in God's future kingdom according to Isaiah 11:6-9 God will restore his vegan creation back, even animals will not harm other animals for food, it says "the lion will eat straw just like the ox"
I had an experience this year that led to me converting to Christianity. It’s been through reading the Bible and consuming media about the Bible and Christianity that I’ve actually been led to veganism. It’s still the early stages of my journey, but my interpretation of the religion is one that calls me to stop giving my money to animal exploiters. If we are to treat others how we wish to be treated, if we’re called to serve “even the lowest” among us... I find it hard to not believe that in 2020, that means a commitment to a vegan lifestyle.
Your story definitely seems like a unique one since many people use their faith to defend their actions of animal exploitation instead of using it to become more compassionate and empathetic. Love it! Thanks for watching and sharing your story! 🌱💚
he is speaking fake news. the longest living ppl are not vegan at all. he is a fake Christian. i wont be surprised if he has a rainbow flag in his closet. never listen to someone who is promoting an atheist ideology like veganism
Genesis 4:2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground. 3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the Lord. 4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the Lord had respect unto Abel and to his offering: 5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. Obviously god prefers meat over vegetables.
@@cnault3244 you misunderstood that scripture God preferred the sheep because the offering was for sin when there is sin something must die for atonement hence why Christ had to die for us vegetables are not suitable for atonement of sins that is why God was displeased with Cain he created us to be plant based meat eating is allowed because of our sin nature
@@schuringleon3207 The fast required me to eat only once per day and the meal consisted of a small bowl of soup. On the 10th day eat normal but not overeat then start the next novena. I did this for 100+ days.
I’m becoming vegan because recently Jesus showed me that love is extended to all living creatures, specially those who are our neighbours, that is, those who we try with all our hearts to be potentially our friends (cows, horses, pigs, dolphins, dogs, even sharks) .... I’m becoming vegan because I don’t want more blood of others inside my heart.
This one definitely makes you think, but it definitely makes sense. If you have the option between choosing a meal made from death and choosing a meal not made from death- the more compassionate choice is obviously the meal with no death. The thing is, in our world, we do have the choice. As privileged Americans, we do have the choice. EVERYDAY. But people still choose the option laden with death.
@@VeganYak Unfortunately it isn't that simple. Your diet that consists of nuts, fruits, seeds, grains especially cause ALLOT of deaths. Rodents, frogs, insects, birds many of them die in the process of harvesting, or spraying pesticides. Or even straight killing of wild animals that are rushing into crops of nuts for example like hogs or deer, not even mentionig that organic farming of vegetables is totally exploiting and depended on blood and fecies of animals for the regeneration of soil and proper growth. If everybody would go Vegan it would not be sustainable, we can't eat all certain fruits like avocados and we can't live a healthy life on only grains not mentioning a really high percentage of people who can't eat legumes (IBS, Extreme bloating) and need vitamin D because of lack of sun. Supliments are not studied enough for us to be taking and relying on it instead of a balanced diet. As some Christians already said, it's a sacrificial world, something needs to die for us to live the message of Christianity is that final sacrifice was done where divinity shed his pure blood so we can have everlasting life, God humbeled himself so we can be lifted up, but this world will never represent the kingdom of God, it just can't because it's the kingdom of the Evil one, resisting temptations can be about overconsuming food, glutony and we should eat less, avoid fast food, factory farmed animals and so on. But Veganism is and should be a choice, it's an ideology and an extreme one, you can save allot of animals, love them but still eat the flesh to sustain yourself on this planet! sory for my English
KJV Romans 14:1-6 "1 HIM that is weak in faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations. 2 For one that believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. 3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him. 4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. 5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. 6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks."
@@ristonalaimo5048 You missed some pivotal verses there: 21 It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak. 22 Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth. 23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.
@@edenicchristian335 How do you interpret that? 21 I imagine it means don't feed your friend rancid or spoiled meat, and 22 more importantly than what you eat don't argue with others about what they should eat, 23 give God, Jesus praise and focus on the Lord not his other creations. Right now we are living in Revelations 9. Let's not argue, these are really difficult times, no one on Earth is disagreeing with that.
@@ristonalaimo5048 You imagine wrong. Reread what is says, It's GOOD NOT to eat FLESH if it causes your brothers to be offended. As Roger Crab argued to others, "I am that offended brother". Yet most carnivorous Christians ignore this exhortation from Paul. Also, the term translated "weak" throughout these passages also means to make ill, either morally or physically. Which adds much more meaning to this passage. Many Christians are made morally and physically ill at the sight of bloodshed.
i have been a believer in christ Jesus for years but i feel as if i am truly born again as of last year. i dont know what it was about this video but it touched something deep in my heart. i feel the tears as im typing this. i know its the truth. amazing video.
I have been a christian all my 64 years. I turned vegan (WFPB) for 2 years now, mostly because counting calories for weightless the plants made me more full than a little meat and sides. I fully believe veganisme is shown to be the best diet for human being - and our planet. You go by the words from the bible very wisely, thank you.
Really good video! Very good points that are hard to argue! It would be cool to see you do some sort of split screen and discuss this with a pastor on video. I would love to hear how they would defend it
I love the fact you emphasize "The ideal diet" it's ideal never to have war and kill, but sometimes it's necessary for the greater good. After the fall we couldn't always pick fruits, nuts or what grew at thd time and we had to hunt to survive, but it wasn't an "Ideal Diet" we survived, but did not thrive. God's Eden menu cured me of extremely high hypertension and cholesterol and awakened the Vegan within me 3 years ago! This is what we are designed for, not flesh and blood...we can have plenty of chlorophyll in greens which by the way is almost identical to human blood, but not animal blood plus our bodies do not produce vitamin C which we need and that only comes from the garden of living foods.
Genesis 4:2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground. 3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the Lord. 4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the Lord had respect unto Abel and to his offering: 5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect. Obviously god prefers meat over vegetables.
@@cxarhomell5867 I said NOTHING about the animals being eaten. How do you misinterpret what I said? God was offered plant matter by Cain and animal matter by Abel. Then the verses say god had respect for Abel and what he offered but god did not respect Cain and what Cain offered.
I am Christian and also a vegan for the animals. I agree that it is God's ideal that the world is a vegan world. It wasn't until sin and evil entered the world that animals started eating animals and humans began to eat animals. But this is not God's ideal obviously
@@VeganYak I was a Christian vegetarian for years but I went vegan after attending a pig vigil with the Animal Save Movement and being challenged by another activist to look into the cruelty behind dairy and eggs, etc. I believed her and went vegan that same day. My Christian faith is to be a light in this dark world and to follow Jesus. Jesus is love and that I want to reflect that love for all including animal persons.
@@veganc5028 that’s awesome! Good on you for being open to another activist and making the changes you wanted to have a more loving a peaceful world!! 🌱💚
Vegan and Christian ✝️ Animals in time of need but its unexcusable in a western country with all the options available for us as alternatives. Why cause unnecessary suffering and harm to living beings? Its not morally right and un-christian like. ✝️❤🌱
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i’m a vegan Christian🤗 as i watched Cowspiracy and i felt shocked at the stuff that goes into slaughterhouses AND because when i eat meat i just get throw it up😂😂
I would argue that you don't really have any moral argument if you are an atheist/ agnostic, for the belief that eating animals is immoral. If there is no objective morality and objective law giver then there is no basis for objective truths in an atheists arsenal. Since the only metric for good without object truth claims is that something "feels good" (doesn't mean morally good), which is what many meat eating people may argue, they have no meaningful argument (without a God) to refute the claim. Not saying there can't be vegans that are atheist/agnostic, but rather that it's contrarian to their core beliefs.
Vegan Yak l am vegan christian ✝️, l loved your explanation....my best friend argued with me , l was talking to vegan parfumerie shop assistant (l was looking biblical answers for her ) ✝️✝️✝️✝️🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌺👍👍👍 l am eating plant based vegan 🌺🌺
Good video. I started eating WFPB for health reasons but the animal cruelty issue solidified it for me. Eating animals is seen throughout the Bible, but animal torture is not. Too many Christians equate veganism with left wing politics, so they hear it and automatically dismiss it.
I love this. I’m not religious, I’m tempted to send this to my particularly preechy parents who are JW/ Seventh day, whichever it is right now who make me say grace with them before eating animals and drinking wine and telling me I’m the most ridiculous thing ever for being vegan and homeschooling. I do enjoy pointing out that Seventh day are vegan and don’t drink!!
@Vebunkd People may have sacrificed animals to sustain their lives and to God in an insufficient attempt to get forgiveness of their sin. They were going to kill and eat the animal regardless so they made an attempt to make this brutal and imperfect way of necessary living more honourable by inviting God into every aspect of their lives. It doesn’t mean this is Gods will for us to live this way as shown in the garden of eden of heaven which both demonstrate Gods intended vision. It makes no sense that as an all knowing and loving God, he would create feeling, thinking individuals who want to live and value their lives like we do merely for the purpose of appeasing our tastebuds. You can believe humans have more moral worth and still be vegan as well. If you believe we should bring heaven to earth, then that requires being vegan by default. There’s absolutely no need for killing and exploiting animals in this day and age when it’s for nothing but our own greed.
As a vegan who became Christian, there seems to be this mainstream misconception that animals were put here for us to (ab)use. This could not be further from the truth. Animals were put here for the glory of God and given the same breath of life (ruach) and souls (nephesh) that humans have.
Could you give me a few verses from the bible that say that? Trying to make a cheatsheet rn to try and convince some my christian family to go vegan next thanksgiving. Thanks.
@@isispotatos2783 Depends what specifically you are looking for really. Are you looking to counter claims of meat eaters or just provide proof texts God does not like flesh consumption? One of my favourite passages showing the kinship of humans an animals is Ecclesiastes 3:19-21: For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity. All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again. Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth? Another really good one is Proverbs 12:10: A righteous man regardeth the life of his beast: but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel. Proverbs 23:20 specifically admonishing flesh consumption: Be not among winebibbers; among riotous eaters of flesh: if you go to the original languages, these passages are also a lot more meaningful than Western, pro-meat translators would have you believe.
@@edenicchristian335 Trying to do the latter. Prove that god does not like flesh consumption, despite there being a few verses in the bible that seem to say the opposite. But I've found much more in favor of veganism than carnism. Thank you, btw, I'll look at these later in the day.
@@isispotatos2783 Absolutely! I mean just look at God's ideal beginning and his ideal end. Genesis was vegan (maybe even frugivorous) and all the revelatory visions show a place with no death or suffering again as well. It's only the "messy middle" that reluctantly permits sin. Even the oft-quoted Genesis 9:3 is literally THE most reluctant permission ever granted in the Bible. It is prefaced by a warning in 9:2 (to both humans and animals) and concluded with several restrictions in 9:4-5. The latter basically stating that we will be held accountable for all blood spilled.
@@edenicchristian335 I talked with my sister(vegan) about some of the quotes I already found in the bible and she asked something like "if God thought that animals eating animals was wrong, then why did he create so many predators/carnivorous animals?" And I have yet to actually read anything about the creation of them or why they would exist. Any thoughts?
Thank you for making this. I’m a disciple since 2017 and went vegan in 2019. Most all of the negative feedback I get are from Christians. If Jesus is the perfect representation of love, why do Christians have such difficulty in understanding or simple apathy even when breaking down that veganism is an act of love.
Your point comes across perfectly. If you're a Christian, it will make you think of your actions. If you're not, it will still make you think on your morals. It definitely feels "targeted" towards Christians, and because of the touchy subject (religion), you may get some hate (specially if people gets defensive). I personally agree and understand your point of view. Nice video, and keep up the good work.
Nice video! If I could add some points that I think you missed: In Christianity, "gluttony" is viewed as a sin, and self discipline is viewed as a virtue. The majority of people who eat animals do so for pleasure which goes against Jesus' teaching to shun material pleasure. And ultimately, veganism requires a lot of self discipline -- it might require skipping a meal if there are no options available -- but for Christians who believes God sees everything, they have more reason to not want to "cheat" (Christians also have a practice of abstaining from meat during Lent and other feast days so they recognise that veganism is virtuous). Some literature that explores similar themes are Dante's _Inferno_ (with regards to gluttony) and also Dostoevsky and Tolstoy's works in relation to asceticism. Like you say it is not just Christianity, but there are other religions (like Buddhism) that also value the self discipline required to abstain from animal products. To play devil's advocate, there are stories in the Bible (especially Old Testament) that seem to justify animal agriculture. The first is the story of Cain and Abel where God preferred animal sacrifice. Another example is in Exodus when God told the Hebrews to slaughter lambs and put their blood on the doorframes. I am interested in your thoughts on these examples, since you claim that God's ideal world is vegan, why would He require His subjects to raise livestock for the slaughter? The New Testament resolves some of this tension since there is symbolism that Jesus takes the place of the lamb of God. However, this justification does not apply for other Abrahamic religions, and even today, adherents generally believe it is morally good to sacrifice animals for God (hence Halal and Kosher).
Because some of the people who wrote the bible had a bias towards meat eating and raising livestock. You can't rely on the bible for God's word. I suggest trying magic mushrooms if you really want to hear God's word or understand his teachings. The book of Essenes is also a good read and it was conveniently left out of the bible.
I was always interested in becoming vegan because I care about the animals, but actually, tying it to my faith as christian actually gave me encouragement to take the next step. I think it’s what Jesus would do if he was here now.
Totally agree with every beautiful point. I am in training for women's ministry and believe that compassion for all of the Creation matters. And as pertaining to holistic health..We are the temple for the Most High. What we take into ourselves does in fact matter. Keep sharing this message dear brother. May Yeshua bless you.
Today I watched seaspriracy and it made me cry. The way people are treating God's creation is literally painful to watch 💔 I didn't know the verse about this so thanks for sharing! 💚
I am a christian and vegan. I was praying and fasting and asked God to lead me to have a healthy diet because I have sufferd from multiple eating disorders. I want to honor God. And He let me to being vegan. I found out the truth about the dairy and egg industry. I was a vegatrian for 10 years and thought that I was doing good for the animals. Until I discoverd the dairy and egg industry. Now I have peace about it. And I am learning my children the truth about animal crualty
Such a good video! I feel like many Christians are not truly followers of Christ as they don't reflect on sins and change, but instead defend the wrongs they are doing. If Jesus was alive today he would accept everyone and create peace and no violence.
I follow a lot of Vegan activists, advocates and influencers here on CZcams and the overwhelming majority talk about “Mother Earth” and “Kama” and “Yoga” and “Meditation” and a general irreverence for Our Lord with constant blaspheming. (I’m not a prude or trying to be judgemental but they bang on about being spiritual, sensitive to the feelings of others and not wishing to upset anyone while simultaneously using the name of our Saviour as as curse!) I am really struggling to look past their skewed worldview and find myself quite frustrated by their constant conflagration of protecting defenceless animals with gay, lesbian and transgender rights! These have nothing to do with Veganism but it dismays me when it is seemingly all part and parcel of the accepted norm! I believe Veganism is the most; ethical, kindest, responsible, healthiest, ecological, environmental and Christian worldview a person can hold. Am I wrong? Someone please help!
Remove the beam from your own eye before pointing out the speck in your brother’s eye. Stop judging your brothers and sisters and open your heart to ALL. Love your neighbor as yourself. You are making it seem like you are somehow above others because of the Lord. The Lord’s love shines on ALL equally just like the sun. God’s love does not play favorites and you are not special. This is what most so called Christians struggle with- judging everyone and everything around them and general intolerance for anyone who does not have Christian beliefs, and thinking they somehow have special access VIP passes to God. This is a brainwashing job done by Satan/the ego tempting us to think we are special over our neighbor. If you judge and hate others who are not “Christian,” then you are not Christian yourself. There are NO exceptions to Jesus’s teachings. His law is love and his gospel is peace.
Nice Video. Thanks for explaining! I stopped eating animals at the beginning for 2018 and I’m Christian since I can think. ->I didn’t actually stop eating meat because I’m Christian.. I always asked myself „why those precious animals have to die, live a miserable short life and end up on our plates”? I grew up in a big city but I visited every summer my family in Poland on a farm. Typical polish farm live means EATING AND SLAUGHTERING POOR ANIMALS. I remember as a child how I pleaded and cried to my uncle, to let a chicken alive. I even took the chicken and wanted to run away with it. But my uncle took the chicken with it with a axe and you may know what happened sadly after.. the same goes for all the pigs, gooses and turkeys that my family has slaughtered. I never could understand it. But somehow I continued to eat meat because everyone around me ate meat. I didn’t even know that vegans exist back then... but yet I cried always when I knew that a animal got slaughtered and this with only 6-7 years old. When I was around 20; I started watching slaughter house videos and I cried the whole time. The screams were awful. Still haunting me. And what broke my heart too was seeing animals standing in line waiting to be slaughtered and the others saw it and they started crying because they didn’t wanted to end up dead like their friends.. how can this humane and tolerated???? I will never understand this. Now I’m 22 and I feel physical and mentally healthy too. Going vegan is the best for animals, the planet and for yourself too!! Let’s be the voice for the voiceless and GO VEGAN💚✌🏽#govegan
Healthy, Healthier, Healthiest? Hahah Love this video, you really did your research and cited which verses say what. A lot of people who "Quote" the bible don't know where it actually says the things they say or When it was written. Anyways I think If there is a God they would definately want us to be vegan, if not for the animals, for humans and the earth.
I am a practising catholic vegan. Yes, it aligns with my moral compass. I have noticed that a lot of atheists are vegan. Brilliant video. Many thanks. More please.
In Genesis 9.1-5 we read: God blessed Noach and his sons and said to them, “Be fruitful, multiply and fill the earth. 2The fear and dread of you will be upon every wild animal, every bird in the air, every creature populating the ground, and all the fish in the sea; they have been handed over to you. 3Every moving thing that lives will be food for you; just as I gave you green plants before, so now I give you everything - 4only flesh with its life, which is its blood, you are not to eat. 5I will certainly demand an accounting for the blood of your lives: I will demand it from every animal and from every human being” ......missed one
As a Christian, I say there's nothing wrong with eating meat in itself. Just like there's nothing wrong with being vegan in itself. It's just what you do with both sides when the problems start to form
I’m a Christian and a vegan. I chose this because of wisdom. I see what is happening to our planet from the meat industry and fishing industry. Is it a sin? No, you CAN eat meat. BUT. If you really do research, why would you want to? God doesn’t say to eat it or don’t eat it but I believe He gave us His spirit and we have His nature in making good decisions. In biblical era, they did not have giant machine like industries like we do today. They weren’t filling the ocean with all this plastic and killing the rainforest. So it’s kinda hard to compare apples to apples when they fished and we MASS produce and mass kill. It’s very different nowadays. I chose not to eat animal products because if this. Because God said to have dominion. In His nature, if I am dominant over kids, (in HIS nature) I would love them and protect them. I would make sure that my “dominion” is for their safety and well being. Dominion doesn’t mean kill. I don’t “preach” that people should be vegan but I would love for them to because of many people chose to, we could save our planet.
Thanks for watching! I don't think any religion including Islam requires followers to eat animals. I am not as well versed in other religions though so if you know of verses or other beliefs that mandate eating animals I would love to know about it! Thanks again!! 🌱💚
@@VeganYak Islam beliefs that Allah created animals to eating. That's why they allow everyone to be non vegan. Btw thanks for a great video. I'm trying to be a vegan. 🥦✌❤
Thanks for the feedback and I love that you are trying to make positive changes!! That's great!! Keep it up!! 🌱💚Although it is "allowed" just like it is in Christianity I don't believe it mandates eating animals to follow the religion.
I think as a Christian and also a vegan I think going vegan my decision was for my health and taking care of the planet. Although other parts of the Bible permits eating animals its not ideal for us. I loved the fact that you mentioned its not about eating meat as a must but permitting. And yes were much healthier on a plant based diet.
I struggle with this because I am Christian but I have yet to find a church that resonates with this message. It seems so simple and clear but it I feel like I can’t find a community that understands.
veganism is an atheist ideology. God and Jesus allows humans to eat meat. dont listen to these ppl. veganism is an unhealthy diet. this guy in this video is cherry picking the bible, making up fake news about health and the environment, and he is blasphemous to the word of God. you do not need to go vegan, because veganism was created by a atheist who would look down on you if he was alive
The choice to go vegan would be entirely your choice and scripture can be used to both justify and condemn the vegan position so it's important to interpret scripture carefully and in context. My understanding is that veganism is an optional position within this era between Eden and the restored Eden. Eating meat would be permissible for Christians and even recommended in certain contexts eg if healthy alternatives to meat were not available Humans were made to image God in a way that animals were not and God gave Noah permission to eat anything Genesis 9v3. The sacrificial system instituted for Israel involved a lot of animals dying. Jesus ate the passover supper which presumably included lamb and ate fish after his resurrection. Indeed Jesus is of course referenced as the 'lamb'. Scripture appears to indeed permit and I dare say encourage the eating of meat certainly for those under the sacrificial system and after the curtain to the holy of holies is rent in two following his resurrection and the abolishing of the sacrificial system he is still eating fish.. However the bible looks forward to a time when animals will live in peace with eachother and us with animals but following the fall of man it appears that animals began to prey upon eachother and we were allowed to also join the circle of life and eat animals also The only caveat would appear to be eating meat with blood in it (which most Christians do) and unnecessary cruelty towards animals which I think would be understood to be wrong from the tenor and tone of scripture which encourages us to kill for food but not for sport. This video does raise some important questions worth discussing though such as health, environmental impact, effect on other believers (the context here is other believers I think not just anyone) and cruelty within animal agriculture itself so I would reiterate my first point that choosing to go vegan would not be sinful but rather a matter of individual conscience. It would however be wrong to judge another believer for not going vegan as that kind of judgment cannot be justified based upon the general thrust of scripture particularly pertaining to the period in which we live (in a fallen world between Edens) So until the golden age predicted by Isaiah arrives I believe that Christians are permitted to live appropriate to this period and continue to eat meat.
@@GarudaLegends Veganism is an atheist ideology? He just stated God's original dietary plan in Genesis 1:29. How is eating a plant-based diet unhealthy?
@@Pedro2NR lol. God always humans to eat meat. please experiment and eat only vegetables and fruit, and stay away from all supplements and fortified foods. see how quick you change your mind about your pathetic diet . stop cherry picking the bible. you clearly missed the part that said that adam and eve ate the forbidden fruit. they should have eaten the snake rather than a fruit. veganism is the reason humans are in this mess.
Holy Spirit led me into veganism after showing me a few of the verses you mentioned, actually. I asked for healing or significant improvement from my asthma, and following a vegan diet has helped me SO much.
1 Timothy 4:1-3 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils. Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron. Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
Thanks for the video, I really want to be vegetarian (I'm not considering being vegan for now but maybe when I'm older) but all of my family members are meat eaters and I want to tell them a few points of why I want to be vegan, I've told them before that in the bible said a few things about humans eating plants (like in daniel) but I didn't really know a lot, this will help a lot thank you!
You can do it! Hope your transition goes well and that you eventually go full vegan. The animals and the planet need it! 💚🌱 Let me know if you need any specific videos that would help!
People also dont quote: Matthew 12: 7 God wants MERCY not sacrifice, if you knew what it meant you would not have judged the innocent. Hosea 6: 6&7 God wants MERCY not sacrifice, vs. 7 refers to Adam disobedience of the covenant. Isaiah 11:6-9 says when the Messiah came he will bring back the earth to Edenic status. The wolf will lie down with the lamb, the lion will eat STRAW like the ox. There will be no war & pain at HIS Holy Mountain. Revelation 22: 14 / Revelation 2:7 --- only access to eat of the Tree of Life which is in the Garden of God (Eden) is by DOING the Commandments (Thou shalt not kill)
In Romans, it was referring to eating meat that was supposedly sacrificed to idols but was sold in the marketplace as there was too much meat for the priests to eat. The mature Christians knew that the meat was fine because there is no power in those idols to defile the meat. However, out of sensitivity to the immature Christians recently out of paganism, it was suggested by Paul to not eat certain meat around the immature Christians who thought the meat was something dangerous still thinking that the inanimate idols had power.
At the end of the day. I don't think you have to be vegan to be a Christian. I mean, consider the fact that our bodies are technically designed to eat meat. Cause we have canine teeth , and while we can get protein from plants, meat is the best way to get protein. As long as you don't eat an excessive amount of meat to the point of it being unhealthy. I don't think there's anything wrong with eating meat as a christian. But that doesn't mean you have to eat meat to be a Christian
Re: Loving your neighbor. Would it be considered love to encourage or enable someone to use drugs or alcohol (or anything known to be unhealthy)? Of course not, right? If we look around us, we see people with heart disease, diabetes, cancers, and so many other diet and lifestyle diseases which could be reduced and/or eliminated by a whole foods, plant-based diet. So in the same way as with drugs and alcohol, it is not really loving others if we encourage or enable them to consume unhealthy items that the world calls “food”. And for those who say they just cant give up cheese (or other addictive products): ok, so don’t give them up. Just crowd them out. There are so many amazing foods out there, and we dont need to worry about “avoiding” or “eliminating” things from our diets so much, if we are so busy filling up on the truly good stuff!
Makes sense . I recently have started a plant based diet and I am Christian. . I wonder secretly why God hasn’t revealed this to me earlier as a lifestyle choice for my health , fitness and better way to live . Am I that slow ? Was I not committed enough in following Christ ? Whst took me sooo long ? I’m 60 and just now “ figuring it out “ feeling incredibly stupid and ignorant , I somewhat get it but not why I didn’t catch in earlier even though I’ve been around vegans and vegetarians for years . I even attempted bring vegetarian years ago and came up short . Just thinking out loud . Live this video !!!
I was on the other end. Being Vegan brought me closer to God. I was agnostic at one point and then ealized that our ethics and morals weren't developed through evolution but derived from our creator and it started my transition. I became born again recently and learning more and more. Check out Daniel 1:8-20 👍
Hi, I'm not a vegan, but i plan to turn vegan due to Biblical reasons, i turned from a carnivore to a flexitarian meaning i have limited eating non-veg, but soon intend to give up all non-veg and animal products, and we can really make a very strong case for veganism from scriptures starting from Genesis 1:29, it was the vegan creation of Genesis 1 that God declared as "very good", but i also believe that we shouldn't impose it on fellow brothers and sisters in Christ who may not be vegans, Christ bought us all with his precious blood, vegans and non-vegans alike, so lets not make this a division causing issue in the Church, peace!
I am a Baptised Jehovah's witness and become a vegan. I support the paradise earth kingdom in Matthew 6:10 by preaching the word. People think I am nuts being a vegan but done my research and sticking to it. It was God original plan in Eden and it is in the new system so I can in this system aswell.
Good video. Went whole foods, plant based in January 2023. In the Essene Gospel of Peace being vegetarian is stressed, but dairy from your own animals is allowed.
Raised in the Adventist church, I’ve noticed so many members that are not even vegetarians and feel so confused, which is how I found this video. Thanks!
Vegan = don’t kill/torture animals. Jesus= Prince of Peace. God = love. How could Christians possibly argue that Jesus preached anything other than peace/not killing? It’s utterly common sense! It’s like people are trying to gaslight us into believing nonsense and defying common sense!
This is the best argument for Christian veganism I've heard. There's a popular argument for Christian veganism at the moment that is throwing doubt on the word of God, I don't believe this helps and I don't believe it's necessary. In fact, it will only alienate vegans in the church more. As a Christian vegan I've faced hostility in church, I even had to sit through a sermon where a pastor was teaching that veganism is linked with paganism and contributed to the escalation of sin before the flood, which is why God told Noah to eat meat. This was done in a small church where everyone knew I was vegan. I pray that I will be able to answer people in the clear, well-articulated and non-confrontational way that this speaker does.
I guess my comment to you would be: how does a vegan lifestyle bring glory to the kingdom of God and how does being a vegan come into alignment in spreading the gospel across the world and making deciples of Christians? If Jesus was here today his main priority would be to save the lost, I believe he wouldn't be advocating a vegan lifestyle as it would be in contention to being a believer. Also in your closing hypotheticals about stabbing an animal and bleeding them... In OT God required burnt offerings but we don't do that now because Jesus died as the perfect sacrifice.
Hey Joanna! 👋 Thanks for watching and for your comment. My question back would be how does loving your neighbor bring glory to God? As mentioned in the video Jesus said the second greatest commandment was to love your neighbor as yourself. I would politely suggest researching what is happening to our brothers and sisters as a result of animal agriculture so it’s not just me saying it. But our decision to consume animals especially on the scale it is now hurts our brothers and sisters and I don’t think that brings glory to God. Workers getting PTSD, nearby communities largely populated with people of color and low income getting diseases, people dying of our number one killer heart disease, food and resources being wasted contributing to the starvation of certain populations, causing pandemics like coronavirus and other diseases like mers, sars, Ebola, mad cow disease, h1n1, avian flu, etc that are causing a ton of suffering and death can’t be what Jesus meant by living thy neighbor. So my answer would be because by going vegan you are acting out of love for your neighbor like Jesus did and said to do and sacrificing your selfish desires. That’s how it would bring glory to God. How does killing Gods creatures unnecessarily for our taste pleasure while simultaneously causing more suffering to humans and destroying our planet bring glory to God. I don’t think it does. To answer the other couple of points. Being vegan is not in contention to being a believer. It is in alignment for the reasons I bring up in the video and in this comment. And if Jesus was the perfect sacrifice and because of that he ended animal sacrifice then why are we still killing them if we don’t need to. Again especially if we know what we do about how terrible it is for humans, the environment, our health, and for the animals. Thanks again for watching and for your thoughts! 💚🌱
This is a great question. I think there are lots of ways a vegan lifestyle brings glory to the kingdom of God. With regards specifically to spreading the gospel, one way is through promoting the health benefits of eating a whole-food plant-based diet, helping people to become healthy. This is similar to medical missions, in which medical professionals cure people's illnesses. In both cases, the people who are helped are then far more receptive to the gospel.
I’m vegan 7 years and newly Christian. I’m struggling though to understand how the lion could eat straw when it’s an obligate carnivore and it would die without meat
Romans 14 20 Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a man to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble. 21 It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother to fall.
I think your intentions and idea for this vid was great. I just want to add that a little extra context with the Bible verses would be good. I suppose people should or could research for themselves, but if vids like this are to inform and to let people decide, adding more context and in depth research is better than pulling out a single relevant verse.
After the great flood, God now introduces and so welcomed all meats into our diets. "God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth. 2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered. 3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things." Gen 9:1-3 (KJV) Hurrah!
Eating animals is not a sin. It is viewed as unethical, but we have free will. It is much better for us to eat plants as it is our original dietary plan. After men's sin, we did a lot of things we were not designed to do. We should focus on repentance and the Gospel.
Hey man - Incredible video! I researched this for a couple years actually and made a website about it. I finally got around to making a video compiling all this information last month and got it posted. Can't believe I'm just finding your video now, but we hit on all the same points! I think you will really enjoy my video as well as we seem to be quite like-minded regarding our interpretation of the views, and I'll add a few more for you! Hosea 2:18 states that killing animals will be banned in the future - this future is talking about the same time as God's Holy Mountain that you reference in Isaiah, so not only will all animals be "vegan" at this time, humans will as well! Further, Ecclesiastes 3:18 and Genesis confirm that animals and humans have the same breath of life and spirit (Ruwach and Nephesh in Hebrew) and it's just as likely that animals will go to heaven as it is that humans will, according to the Bible! Otherwise, in heaven we can see that it's described as "Eden Restored" in Revelations 22 - A couple other points, you had mentioned Daniel I believe eating plant-based against meat-eaters and coming out stronger and more spiritual - This also happens in Exodus/Numbers, God offers people manna (which is also described as angelic bread and is more literally a white sap stuff you get from trees more in the middle east) and they chose to eat Quail instead and were struck down with the meat between their teeth. I also touch on Romans and not only that, but I respond to the parts of Romans, Timothy, and Corinthians that anti-vegans commonly use against vegans - as these verses calling people eating plants "weak" was referring to Jewish peoples' faith as they didn't believe Christ's sacrifice was enough and that the meat was offered to idols, and Timothy is speaking about False Asceticism, which also includes banning marriage, so not talking about vegans at all. I also mention why Jesus ate fish, how it related to prophecies he had to fulfil and how this wasn't actually his first choice, and how he doesn't explicitly eat meat at the Last Supper in any of the four accounts, besides being "Eager to partake in the lamb" in Luke's account. Otherwise, Jesus's brother James the Just was definitely an early Christian vegetarian (considered vegan by today's standard) and the Bible would likely be more clearly vegan slanted had he not died in martyrdom like Jesus, allowing Paul to be the vessel through which most of the new testament was written. I think that's about all I can remember in summary of my video - check it out if you have time - I subscribed to your channel and it's a pleasure to make your acquaintance through this comment - Great work with this video and awesome visuals by the way!
This is the second time replying because for some reason yt doesn't want to post my comment. But thank you for the additional research here and in your video. I plan on doing another 1-2 videos on this topic so the extra help here is very much appreciated. Thanks for watching and subscribing!!
Originally it was grapes - not fish ---- this is a fact. Jesus was a essene - he was a strict vegetarian and ate a fleshless diet - as well did his parents and the 7 generations of his family before hand ... They never were contested . We are lied to often
I am a former Christian, turned atheist, turned vegan :) - Even though I no longer believe the Bible is the inspired word of God, I appreciate the perspective offered in this video.
”As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables.“ Romans 14:1-2 ESV This should settles it.
"Forbidding to marry, to abstain from meats, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by them that believe and know the truth. 4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be rejected, if it be received with thanksgiving: 5 for it is sanctified through the word of God and prayer. 6 If thou put the brethren in mind of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Christ Jesus, nourished in the words of the faith, and of the good doctrine which thou hast followed :" 1 Timothy 4:6+
You nailed it! Thank you for making this video. I was researching myself to come up with references, Scripture and logic for my non plant based friends and aquaintences, Christian and non-Christian. I'll refer them to this video. Thank You!
8:20 I am the only vegetarian in my family. Everyone else eats meat and the only one who actually accepts and cheers for me (and has stopped nagging and asking me when I will stop being stupid and eat meat again) is my mom because she's Christian.
I think it's DEFINITELY more in alignment to be a vegan as a Christian. Mainly because when in Genesis 1:29: God said, "See, I give you every seed-bearing plant that is upon all the earth, and every tree that has seed-bearing fruit; they shall be yours for food." It was only when sin entered the world that the eating of animals began.
I am a Christian and vegan for the animals 💚🌱
Nice! Did your faith lead you to veganism or was it something else? 🌱💚
@Vebunkd might wanna read mark 7:19 to see what Jesus thought of the animals
Me too. I’m a vegan and Christian for animals. 🌱💚
@@VeganYak ... that is awesome 😎✅👏👏👏
Then you are not familiar with the Bible, the very book you base your beliefs on. The Bible says veganism is a doctrine of devils.www.learnthebible.org/vegetarianism-a-doctrine-of-devils-1-timothy-41-3.html
Hi, I am a Christian and a new Vegan, thank you for this video. How can we love our neighbor without caring for the planet you leave for them and their children. I am a survivor of Covid and the way I’ve eaten my entire life has given me health issues that made me more vulnerable to Covid. I’m so thankful to Christ for bringing me through the virus and for changing my mind about what I put in my body. Our bodies are a temple of God and we should maintain it and keep it as healthy as possible in order to serve others I’ve found that easier to do by eating a plant based diet. Be blessed and thank you again
Love it!! 💚🌱
good choice!
you are not a Christian. veganism is heavily based on man made athiest science
@@GarudaLegends what??
@@linastrindlund2830 i forgot how he also shames ppl for eating meat, and judges ppl for eating meat. a sin. dude is not Christian
My hurt is burning for this topic. I am a Christian and I have been vegan for 7 years. I cannot tell you how badly it hurts me to see churches celebrating holidays with meat filled barbecues and to rejoice with one another when one of them goes hunting and gets a "great kill". That is NOT the heart of God. Love is kind. It is not self serving. Thank you for laying this out so well. I hope and pray that Jesus begins to change people's hearts so that they will love more compassionate lives.
You have not yet been bought up to speed then.....
For after the great flood, God now introduces and so welcomed all meats into our diets.
"God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.
2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.
3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things."
Gen 9:1-3 (KJV)
Hurrah!
If you think that eating meat is a sin you're an idiot...
Gal 5:22-23 Gentleness, meekness. We are not supposed to be men of violence. Shedding blood is the way of death. Didache 1:1 says there is a way of life and a way of death, choose life. James the brother of Jesus and bishop of Jerusalem was vegan. Eusebius says he was raised that way by Mary and Joseph. Food for thought!
@@thewatcher7728 Yeah! but context matters, to whom and when did God give that permission to, it was to FALLEN human beings with a FALLEN nature in a FALLEN world, it was the vegan creation of Genesis 1 that God declared as "very good" but he never said it about the fallen carnivorous creation of Genesis 9 which is why in God's future kingdom according to Isaiah 11:6-9 God will restore his vegan creation back, even animals will not harm other animals for food, it says "the lion will eat straw just like the ox"
There NOT christians quit going to so called church!
I had an experience this year that led to me converting to Christianity. It’s been through reading the Bible and consuming media about the Bible and Christianity that I’ve actually been led to veganism. It’s still the early stages of my journey, but my interpretation of the religion is one that calls me to stop giving my money to animal exploiters.
If we are to treat others how we wish to be treated, if we’re called to serve “even the lowest” among us... I find it hard to not believe that in 2020, that means a commitment to a vegan lifestyle.
Your story definitely seems like a unique one since many people use their faith to defend their actions of animal exploitation instead of using it to become more compassionate and empathetic. Love it! Thanks for watching and sharing your story! 🌱💚
well said! :D
You should make videos about this subject too! :D
As a Christian, this was a really great video that had a lot of really great points that I think many Christians tend to overlook or not think about.
Completely agree and thanks for watching! 🌱💚
he is speaking fake news. the longest living ppl are not vegan at all. he is a fake Christian. i wont be surprised if he has a rainbow flag in his closet. never listen to someone who is promoting an atheist ideology like veganism
agreed:)
Genesis 4:2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the Lord.
4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the Lord had respect unto Abel and to his offering:
5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect.
Obviously god prefers meat over vegetables.
@@cnault3244 you misunderstood that scripture God preferred the sheep because the offering was for sin when there is sin something must die for atonement hence why Christ had to die for us vegetables are not suitable for atonement of sins that is why God was displeased with Cain he created us to be plant based meat eating is allowed because of our sin nature
I became i vegan after i fasted for over 100 days. After the fast, i knew i was vegan and i have never felt closer to God.
Kiss on your forehead !
@@ponnamy * Blushing with a big silly smile * lol.
How did you manage to fast for 100 days?
@@schuringleon3207 The fast required me to eat only once per day and the meal consisted of a small bowl of soup. On the 10th day eat normal but not overeat then start the next novena. I did this for 100+ days.
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I’m becoming vegan because recently Jesus showed me that love is extended to all living creatures, specially those who are our neighbours, that is, those who we try with all our hearts to be potentially our friends (cows, horses, pigs, dolphins, dogs, even sharks) .... I’m becoming vegan because I don’t want more blood of others inside my heart.
Amen 🙏🏼❤️
that is false. Jesus was not vegan and promoted eating meat. you are using his name in vain. you are a hypocrite and a sinner
@@GarudaLegends ok. It’s not mentioned in the bible, but it was said by the Pope. I’m adhered to it. Animals are suffering like shit
be quit, with your blasphemous words
@@marcelsandino5483 Pigs aren’t considered food.
This one definitely makes you think, but it definitely makes sense. If you have the option between choosing a meal made from death and choosing a meal not made from death- the more compassionate choice is obviously the meal with no death. The thing is, in our world, we do have the choice. As privileged Americans, we do have the choice. EVERYDAY. But people still choose the option laden with death.
I couldn't agree more!! ❤️
@@VeganYak Unfortunately it isn't that simple. Your diet that consists of nuts, fruits, seeds, grains especially cause ALLOT of deaths. Rodents, frogs, insects, birds many of them die in the process of harvesting, or spraying pesticides. Or even straight killing of wild animals that are rushing into crops of nuts for example like hogs or deer, not even mentionig that organic farming of vegetables is totally exploiting and depended on blood and fecies of animals for the regeneration of soil and proper growth. If everybody would go Vegan it would not be sustainable, we can't eat all certain fruits like avocados and we can't live a healthy life on only grains not mentioning a really high percentage of people who can't eat legumes (IBS, Extreme bloating) and need vitamin D because of lack of sun. Supliments are not studied enough for us to be taking and relying on it instead of a balanced diet. As some Christians already said, it's a sacrificial world, something needs to die for us to live the message of Christianity is that final sacrifice was done where divinity shed his pure blood so we can have everlasting life, God humbeled himself so we can be lifted up, but this world will never represent the kingdom of God, it just can't because it's the kingdom of the Evil one, resisting temptations can be about overconsuming food, glutony and we should eat less, avoid fast food, factory farmed animals and so on. But Veganism is and should be a choice, it's an ideology and an extreme one, you can save allot of animals, love them but still eat the flesh to sustain yourself on this planet! sory for my English
@@CroElectroStile you cant love animals and eat them none sense
@@inspirationaledits2757 but i do love them tho, soo you are wrong :)
@@CroElectroStile you only love animals that you dont eat but dont say you love all animals
Amen 🙏🏼 I’m a Vegan and Christian for the Animals. 🙏🏼🌱💚
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KJV Romans 14:1-6 "1 HIM that is weak in faith receive ye, but not to doubtful disputations. 2 For one that believeth that he may eat all things: another, who is weak, eateth herbs. 3 Let not him that eateth despise him that eateth not; and let not him which eateth not judge him that eateth: for God hath received him. 4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand. 5 One man esteemeth one day above another: another esteemeth every day alike. Let every man be fully persuaded in his own mind. 6 He that regardeth the day, regardeth it unto the Lord; and he that regardeth not the day, to the Lord he doth not regard it. He that eateth, eateth to the Lord, for he giveth God thanks; and he that eateth not, to the Lord he eateth not, and giveth God thanks."
@@ristonalaimo5048 You missed some pivotal verses there:
21 It is good neither to eat flesh, nor to drink wine, nor any thing whereby thy brother stumbleth, or is offended, or is made weak.
22 Hast thou faith? have it to thyself before God. Happy is he that condemneth not himself in that thing which he alloweth.
23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.
@@edenicchristian335 How do you interpret that? 21 I imagine it means don't feed your friend rancid or spoiled meat, and 22 more importantly than what you eat don't argue with others about what they should eat, 23 give God, Jesus praise and focus on the Lord not his other creations.
Right now we are living in Revelations 9. Let's not argue, these are really difficult times, no one on Earth is disagreeing with that.
@@ristonalaimo5048 You imagine wrong. Reread what is says, It's GOOD NOT to eat FLESH if it causes your brothers to be offended. As Roger Crab argued to others, "I am that offended brother". Yet most carnivorous Christians ignore this exhortation from Paul.
Also, the term translated "weak" throughout these passages also means to make ill, either morally or physically. Which adds much more meaning to this passage. Many Christians are made morally and physically ill at the sight of bloodshed.
Thank you! Christian VEGAN here seeking more knowledge about Jesus and Veganism! Great video! Thank you! 💚💚💚
I was Ex Hindu Athiest now I am orthodox Christian and I am vegan . I don't force it on others , But it makes me feel more connected to God .
Not a Christian or a vegan really, but hard to argue with the logic. I had no idea those quotes were in the Bible.
Thank you for watching and for the comment!!
Another quote in the Bible (don't know exactly where but my mom said) is that there will be a pandemic all over the world in the end times 👀
@@nae_on Matthew 24
dont listen to these ppl. God and Jesus always humans to eat meat. these ppl are just blasphemous and sinners.
@@GarudaLegendswith all due respect, I don’t think discussing the bible us blasphemy. It’s important and healthy. God bless.
As a Christian and vegan, this really helps solidify my views :) Thank you.
Great video! Definitely a difficult topic to undertake, but you were able to keep it fun while still addressing serious points.
Thank you! Yeah a touchy subject for sure! 💚🌱
i have been a believer in christ Jesus for years but i feel as if i am truly born again as of last year. i dont know what it was about this video but it touched something deep in my heart. i feel the tears as im typing this. i know its the truth. amazing video.
I have been a christian all my 64 years. I turned vegan (WFPB) for 2 years now, mostly because counting calories for weightless the plants made me more full than a little meat and sides. I fully believe veganisme is shown to be the best diet for human being - and our planet. You go by the words from the bible very wisely, thank you.
I wasn’t a vegan before this video but now I’m definitely a Christian
Lol knew I could count on you to get the real message here
Really good video! Very good points that are hard to argue! It would be cool to see you do some sort of split screen and discuss this with a pastor on video. I would love to hear how they would defend it
ThisIsRandallWalter love that idea and will see if I can make that happen!
I'm also a Christian and a vegan. 🙂💚🌱
I love the fact you emphasize "The ideal diet" it's ideal never to have war and kill, but sometimes it's necessary for the greater good. After the fall we couldn't always pick fruits, nuts or what grew at thd time and we had to hunt to survive, but it wasn't an "Ideal Diet" we survived, but did not thrive. God's Eden menu cured me of extremely high hypertension and cholesterol and awakened the Vegan within me 3 years ago! This is what we are designed for, not flesh and blood...we can have plenty of chlorophyll in greens which by the way is almost identical to human blood, but not animal blood plus our bodies do not produce vitamin C which we need and that only comes from the garden of living foods.
That's awesome that you were cured of some health issues. Keep it up!! 💚🌱
I’m Christian and I’m looking to turn vegan but I was scard in case it went against the bible thank you for sharing this video it helped a lot 🙏🏼
Genesis 4:2 And she again bare his brother Abel. And Abel was a keeper of sheep, but Cain was a tiller of the ground.
3 And in process of time it came to pass, that Cain brought of the fruit of the ground an offering unto the Lord.
4 And Abel, he also brought of the firstlings of his flock and of the fat thereof. And the Lord had respect unto Abel and to his offering:
5 But unto Cain and to his offering he had not respect.
Obviously god prefers meat over vegetables.
@@cnault3244 wow, you got a lot out of one verse
@@JillM1000 Four verses actually. And only if you want to interpret the verses this way.
@@cnault3244 This was Abel offering animals to the Lord, not slaughtering them for meat and eating them. How do you misinterpret a verse like this?
@@cxarhomell5867 I said NOTHING about the animals being eaten. How do you misinterpret what I said?
God was offered plant matter by Cain and animal matter by Abel. Then the verses say god had respect for Abel and what he offered but god did not respect Cain and what Cain offered.
I am Christian and also a vegan for the animals. I agree that it is God's ideal that the world is a vegan world. It wasn't until sin and evil entered the world that animals started eating animals and humans began to eat animals. But this is not God's ideal obviously
No doubt!! Did your faith lead you to veganism or was it something else? 🌱💚
@@VeganYak I was a Christian vegetarian for years but I went vegan after attending a pig vigil with the Animal Save Movement and being challenged by another activist to look into the cruelty behind dairy and eggs, etc. I believed her and went vegan that same day. My Christian faith is to be a light in this dark world and to follow Jesus. Jesus is love and that I want to reflect that love for all including animal persons.
@@veganc5028 that’s awesome! Good on you for being open to another activist and making the changes you wanted to have a more loving a peaceful world!! 🌱💚
Vegan and Christian ✝️
Animals in time of need but its unexcusable in a western country with all the options available for us as alternatives. Why cause unnecessary suffering and harm to living beings? Its not morally right and un-christian like.
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Yes definitely!! 🌱💚
That makes no sense
Are you a Christian and a vegan? Let me know why? Are you neither of those? Then why are you here? 😉 ❤️ Don't forget to like and subscribe: czcams.com/users/veganyak
i’m a vegan Christian🤗 as i watched Cowspiracy and i felt shocked at the stuff that goes into slaughterhouses AND because when i eat meat i just get throw it up😂😂
helena boateng Cowspiracy is amazing and quite the eye opener!! Totally agree. Thanks for watching!! 💚🌱
I would argue that you don't really have any moral argument if you are an atheist/ agnostic, for the belief that eating animals is immoral. If there is no objective morality and objective law giver then there is no basis for objective truths in an atheists arsenal.
Since the only metric for good without object truth claims is that something "feels good" (doesn't mean morally good), which is what many meat eating people may argue, they have no meaningful argument (without a God) to refute the claim.
Not saying there can't be vegans that are atheist/agnostic, but rather that it's contrarian to their core beliefs.
Vegan Yak l am vegan christian ✝️, l loved your explanation....my best friend argued with me , l was talking to vegan parfumerie shop assistant (l was looking biblical answers for her ) ✝️✝️✝️✝️🌸🌸🌸🌸🌸🌺👍👍👍 l am eating plant based vegan 🌺🌺
Good video. I started eating WFPB for health reasons but the animal cruelty issue solidified it for me. Eating animals is seen throughout the Bible, but animal torture is not. Too many Christians equate veganism with left wing politics, so they hear it and automatically dismiss it.
David Surrett completely agree. Veganism is not a left or right issue it is a humanity issue. Thanks for watching!! 🌱💚
I love this. I’m not religious, I’m tempted to send this to my particularly preechy parents who are JW/ Seventh day, whichever it is right now who make me say grace with them before eating animals and drinking wine and telling me I’m the most ridiculous thing ever for being vegan and homeschooling. I do enjoy pointing out that Seventh day are vegan and don’t drink!!
SDA and JW are not Christians, they are cult members so it is always best to go the Bible for information not false prophets.
I’m going to send this to my Christian friends and family!
Summer Skye Hope they enjoy! report back and let me know what they say. 🌱💚
@Vebunkd People may have sacrificed animals to sustain their lives and to God in an insufficient attempt to get forgiveness of their sin. They were going to kill and eat the animal regardless so they made an attempt to make this brutal and imperfect way of necessary living more honourable by inviting God into every aspect of their lives. It doesn’t mean this is Gods will for us to live this way as shown in the garden of eden of heaven which both demonstrate Gods intended vision. It makes no sense that as an all knowing and loving God, he would create feeling, thinking individuals who want to live and value their lives like we do merely for the purpose of appeasing our tastebuds. You can believe humans have more moral worth and still be vegan as well. If you believe we should bring heaven to earth, then that requires being vegan by default. There’s absolutely no need for killing and exploiting animals in this day and age when it’s for nothing but our own greed.
As a vegan who became Christian, there seems to be this mainstream misconception that animals were put here for us to (ab)use. This could not be further from the truth. Animals were put here for the glory of God and given the same breath of life (ruach) and souls (nephesh) that humans have.
Could you give me a few verses from the bible that say that? Trying to make a cheatsheet rn to try and convince some my christian family to go vegan next thanksgiving. Thanks.
@@isispotatos2783 Depends what specifically you are looking for really. Are you looking to counter claims of meat eaters or just provide proof texts God does not like flesh consumption?
One of my favourite passages showing the kinship of humans an animals is Ecclesiastes 3:19-21:
For that which befalleth the sons of men befalleth beasts; even one thing befalleth them: as the one dieth, so dieth the other; yea, they have all one breath; so that a man hath no preeminence above a beast: for all is vanity. All go unto one place; all are of the dust, and all turn to dust again. Who knoweth the spirit of man that goeth upward, and the spirit of the beast that goeth downward to the earth?
Another really good one is Proverbs 12:10: A righteous man regardeth the life of his beast: but the tender mercies of the wicked are cruel.
Proverbs 23:20 specifically admonishing flesh consumption: Be not among winebibbers; among riotous eaters of flesh:
if you go to the original languages, these passages are also a lot more meaningful than Western, pro-meat translators would have you believe.
@@edenicchristian335 Trying to do the latter. Prove that god does not like flesh consumption, despite there being a few verses in the bible that seem to say the opposite. But I've found much more in favor of veganism than carnism.
Thank you, btw, I'll look at these later in the day.
@@isispotatos2783 Absolutely! I mean just look at God's ideal beginning and his ideal end. Genesis was vegan (maybe even frugivorous) and all the revelatory visions show a place with no death or suffering again as well. It's only the "messy middle" that reluctantly permits sin. Even the oft-quoted Genesis 9:3 is literally THE most reluctant permission ever granted in the Bible. It is prefaced by a warning in 9:2 (to both humans and animals) and concluded with several restrictions in 9:4-5. The latter basically stating that we will be held accountable for all blood spilled.
@@edenicchristian335 I talked with my sister(vegan) about some of the quotes I already found in the bible and she asked something like "if God thought that animals eating animals was wrong, then why did he create so many predators/carnivorous animals?"
And I have yet to actually read anything about the creation of them or why they would exist. Any thoughts?
Thank you for making this. I’m a disciple since 2017 and went vegan in 2019. Most all of the negative feedback I get are from Christians. If Jesus is the perfect representation of love, why do Christians have such difficulty in understanding or simple apathy even when breaking down that veganism is an act of love.
Your point comes across perfectly. If you're a Christian, it will make you think of your actions. If you're not, it will still make you think on your morals.
It definitely feels "targeted" towards Christians, and because of the touchy subject (religion), you may get some hate (specially if people gets defensive). I personally agree and understand your point of view.
Nice video, and keep up the good work.
Thanks for watching and I always get hate but I also always get love so it evens out hahaha 💚🌱
Nice video! If I could add some points that I think you missed:
In Christianity, "gluttony" is viewed as a sin, and self discipline is viewed as a virtue. The majority of people who eat animals do so for pleasure which goes against Jesus' teaching to shun material pleasure. And ultimately, veganism requires a lot of self discipline -- it might require skipping a meal if there are no options available -- but for Christians who believes God sees everything, they have more reason to not want to "cheat" (Christians also have a practice of abstaining from meat during Lent and other feast days so they recognise that veganism is virtuous). Some literature that explores similar themes are Dante's _Inferno_ (with regards to gluttony) and also Dostoevsky and Tolstoy's works in relation to asceticism. Like you say it is not just Christianity, but there are other religions (like Buddhism) that also value the self discipline required to abstain from animal products.
To play devil's advocate, there are stories in the Bible (especially Old Testament) that seem to justify animal agriculture. The first is the story of Cain and Abel where God preferred animal sacrifice. Another example is in Exodus when God told the Hebrews to slaughter lambs and put their blood on the doorframes. I am interested in your thoughts on these examples, since you claim that God's ideal world is vegan, why would He require His subjects to raise livestock for the slaughter?
The New Testament resolves some of this tension since there is symbolism that Jesus takes the place of the lamb of God. However, this justification does not apply for other Abrahamic religions, and even today, adherents generally believe it is morally good to sacrifice animals for God (hence Halal and Kosher).
Because some of the people who wrote the bible had a bias towards meat eating and raising livestock. You can't rely on the bible for God's word. I suggest trying magic mushrooms if you really want to hear God's word or understand his teachings. The book of Essenes is also a good read and it was conveniently left out of the bible.
Thank you and bless you for this 🌱💪🏻🙌🏻👏🏻😎❤️🙏🏻 Never take this down. I will repost it throughout the years . 🌹🥰🦁🐶🐮
Thanks for watching and I’m glad you liked it. And don’t worry it’s not going anywhere! 😊🌱💚
I was always interested in becoming vegan because I care about the animals, but actually, tying it to my faith as christian actually gave me encouragement to take the next step. I think it’s what Jesus would do if he was here now.
Totally agree with every beautiful point. I am in training for women's ministry and believe that compassion for all of the Creation matters. And as pertaining to holistic health..We are the temple for the Most High. What we take into ourselves does in fact matter. Keep sharing this message dear brother. May Yeshua bless you.
Today I watched seaspriracy and it made me cry. The way people are treating God's creation is literally painful to watch 💔 I didn't know the verse about this so thanks for sharing! 💚
I stopped eating fish because of that… it’s been over a year. Going vegan now!! 🙃
I am a christian and vegan. I was praying and fasting and asked God to lead me to have a healthy diet because I have sufferd from multiple eating disorders. I want to honor God. And He let me to being vegan. I found out the truth about the dairy and egg industry. I was a vegatrian for 10 years and thought that I was doing good for the animals. Until I discoverd the dairy and egg industry.
Now I have peace about it. And I am learning my children the truth about animal crualty
Love it! Thank you for your story! 🌱💚
hello to all fellow Christian vegans...GOD Bless you all
Such a good video! I feel like many Christians are not truly followers of Christ as they don't reflect on sins and change, but instead defend the wrongs they are doing. If Jesus was alive today he would accept everyone and create peace and no violence.
Completely agree. Thanks for watching! 💚🌱
I follow a lot of Vegan activists, advocates and influencers here on CZcams and the overwhelming majority talk about “Mother Earth” and “Kama” and “Yoga” and “Meditation” and a general irreverence for Our Lord with constant blaspheming. (I’m not a prude or trying to be judgemental but they bang on about being spiritual, sensitive to the feelings of others and not wishing to upset anyone while simultaneously using the name of our Saviour as as curse!)
I am really struggling to look past their skewed worldview and find myself quite frustrated by their constant conflagration of protecting defenceless animals with gay, lesbian and transgender rights!
These have nothing to do with Veganism but it dismays me when it is seemingly all part and parcel of the accepted norm!
I believe Veganism is the most; ethical, kindest, responsible, healthiest, ecological, environmental and Christian worldview a person can hold.
Am I wrong?
Someone please help!
Remove the beam from your own eye before pointing out the speck in your brother’s eye. Stop judging your brothers and sisters and open your heart to ALL. Love your neighbor as yourself. You are making it seem like you are somehow above others because of the Lord. The Lord’s love shines on ALL equally just like the sun. God’s love does not play favorites and you are not special. This is what most so called Christians struggle with- judging everyone and everything around them and general intolerance for anyone who does not have Christian beliefs, and thinking they somehow have special access VIP passes to God. This is a brainwashing job done by Satan/the ego tempting us to think we are special over our neighbor. If you judge and hate others who are not “Christian,” then you are not Christian yourself. There are NO exceptions to Jesus’s teachings. His law is love and his gospel is peace.
Nice Video. Thanks for explaining!
I stopped eating animals at the beginning for 2018 and I’m Christian since I can think.
->I didn’t actually stop eating meat because I’m Christian.. I always asked myself „why those precious animals have to die, live a miserable short life and end up on our plates”? I grew up in a big city but I visited every summer my family in Poland on a farm. Typical polish farm live means EATING AND SLAUGHTERING POOR ANIMALS. I remember as a child how I pleaded and cried to my uncle, to let a chicken alive. I even took the chicken and wanted to run away with it. But my uncle took the chicken with it with a axe and you may know what happened sadly after.. the same goes for all the pigs, gooses and turkeys that my family has slaughtered. I never could understand it. But somehow I continued to eat meat because everyone around me ate meat. I didn’t even know that vegans exist back then... but yet I cried always when I knew that a animal got slaughtered and this with only 6-7 years old.
When I was around 20; I started watching slaughter house videos and I cried the whole time. The screams were awful. Still haunting me. And what broke my heart too was seeing animals standing in line waiting to be slaughtered and the others saw it and they started crying because they didn’t wanted to end up dead like their friends.. how can this humane and tolerated???? I will never understand this.
Now I’m 22 and I feel physical and mentally healthy too.
Going vegan is the best for animals, the planet and for yourself too!!
Let’s be the voice for the voiceless and GO VEGAN💚✌🏽#govegan
Lately I have been wanting to look into veganism and my sister judged me for even thinking about it but it's ok I will do what I feel is best for me
Healthy, Healthier, Healthiest? Hahah Love this video, you really did your research and cited which verses say what. A lot of people who "Quote" the bible don't know where it actually says the things they say or When it was written. Anyways I think If there is a God they would definately want us to be vegan, if not for the animals, for humans and the earth.
Thanks! Totally agree!!
Vegan was the beginning vegan will be the end, I’m a Christian vegan .
they got kicked out of eden for eating a fruit. yall bible thumpers are really stupid. they should have eaten the snake instead.
I am a practising catholic vegan. Yes, it aligns with my moral compass. I have noticed that a lot of atheists are vegan. Brilliant video. Many thanks. More please.
In Genesis 9.1-5 we read:
God blessed Noach and his sons and said to them, “Be fruitful, multiply and fill the earth. 2The fear and dread of you will be upon every wild animal, every bird in the air, every creature populating the ground, and all the fish in the sea; they have been handed over to you. 3Every moving thing that lives will be food for you; just as I gave you green plants before, so now I give you everything - 4only flesh with its life, which is its blood, you are not to eat. 5I will certainly demand an accounting for the blood of your lives: I will demand it from every animal and from every human being” ......missed one
As a Christian, I say there's nothing wrong with eating meat in itself. Just like there's nothing wrong with being vegan in itself. It's just what you do with both sides when the problems start to form
I’m a Christian and a vegan. I chose this because of wisdom. I see what is happening to our planet from the meat industry and fishing industry. Is it a sin? No, you CAN eat meat. BUT. If you really do research, why would you want to? God doesn’t say to eat it or don’t eat it but I believe He gave us His spirit and we have His nature in making good decisions. In biblical era, they did not have giant machine like industries like we do today. They weren’t filling the ocean with all this plastic and killing the rainforest. So it’s kinda hard to compare apples to apples when they fished and we MASS produce and mass kill. It’s very different nowadays. I chose not to eat animal products because if this. Because God said to have dominion. In His nature, if I am dominant over kids, (in HIS nature) I would love them and protect them. I would make sure that my “dominion” is for their safety and well being. Dominion doesn’t mean kill. I don’t “preach” that people should be vegan but I would love for them to because of many people chose to, we could save our planet.
Great video! Vegan for 4.5 years, christian for 1 week :) God bless you
@@Matthew_F thank you! Following Christ has changed my life 😊
Except Islams, every religions and God allows us to come into veganism . Definitely it's important for us to be a vegan.
Thanks for watching! I don't think any religion including Islam requires followers to eat animals. I am not as well versed in other religions though so if you know of verses or other beliefs that mandate eating animals I would love to know about it! Thanks again!! 🌱💚
@@VeganYak Islam beliefs that Allah created animals to eating. That's why they allow everyone to be non vegan. Btw thanks for a great video. I'm trying to be a vegan. 🥦✌❤
Thanks for the feedback and I love that you are trying to make positive changes!! That's great!! Keep it up!! 🌱💚Although it is "allowed" just like it is in Christianity I don't believe it mandates eating animals to follow the religion.
@@VeganYak You're welcome. Great job.
Thou shall not kill , I’m vegan and Christian,
Mate you have done an excellent job of presenting the case for Christians to be vegan
3:50 Daniel. So inspiring. Favorite book in the scripture. God bless!
I believe in Christ. I’m also vegan. Yesterday, I thought being a vegan is a sin. This video is really helpful!
Romans 14 my brother never just listen to anyone and agree!
If your friend falls in a pit don't fall in pit too!
Why would veganism be a sin? Just curious.
Why would veganism/not killing be a sin???? Who brainwashed you???
eating meat or being a vegan is not a sin judging ppl for eating meat is a sin.
It rather should be a sin eating meat rather than being vegan
I think as a Christian and also a vegan I think going vegan my decision was for my health and taking care of the planet. Although other parts of the Bible permits eating animals its not ideal for us. I loved the fact that you mentioned its not about eating meat as a must but permitting. And yes were much healthier on a plant based diet.
I struggle with this because I am Christian but I have yet to find a church that resonates with this message. It seems so simple and clear but it I feel like I can’t find a community that understands.
veganism is an atheist ideology. God and Jesus allows humans to eat meat. dont listen to these ppl. veganism is an unhealthy diet. this guy in this video is cherry picking the bible, making up fake news about health and the environment, and he is blasphemous to the word of God. you do not need to go vegan, because veganism was created by a atheist who would look down on you if he was alive
Jesus ate meat
The choice to go vegan would be entirely your choice and scripture can be used to both justify and condemn the vegan position so it's important to interpret scripture carefully and in context. My understanding is that veganism is an optional position within this era between Eden and the restored Eden. Eating meat would be permissible for Christians and even recommended in certain contexts eg if healthy alternatives to meat were not available
Humans were made to image God in a way that animals were not and God gave Noah permission to eat anything Genesis 9v3.
The sacrificial system instituted for Israel involved a lot of animals dying. Jesus ate the passover supper which presumably included lamb and ate fish after his resurrection. Indeed Jesus is of course referenced as the 'lamb'.
Scripture appears to indeed permit and I dare say encourage the eating of meat certainly for those under the sacrificial system and after the curtain to the holy of holies is rent in two following his resurrection and the abolishing of the sacrificial system he is still eating fish..
However the bible looks forward to a time when animals will live in peace with eachother and us with animals but following the fall of man it appears that animals began to prey upon eachother and we were allowed to also join the circle of life and eat animals also
The only caveat would appear to be eating meat with blood in it (which most Christians do) and unnecessary cruelty towards animals which I think would be understood to be wrong from the tenor and tone of scripture which encourages us to kill for food but not for sport. This video does raise some important questions worth discussing though such as health, environmental impact, effect on other believers (the context here is other believers I think not just anyone) and cruelty within animal agriculture itself so I would reiterate my first point that choosing to go vegan would not be sinful but rather a matter of individual conscience. It would however be wrong to judge another believer for not going vegan as that kind of judgment cannot be justified based upon the general thrust of scripture particularly pertaining to the period in which we live (in a fallen world between Edens)
So until the golden age predicted by Isaiah arrives I believe that Christians are permitted to live appropriate to this period and continue to eat meat.
@@GarudaLegends Veganism is an atheist ideology? He just stated God's original dietary plan in Genesis 1:29.
How is eating a plant-based diet unhealthy?
@@Pedro2NR lol. God always humans to eat meat. please experiment and eat only vegetables and fruit, and stay away from all supplements and fortified foods. see how quick you change your mind about your pathetic diet . stop cherry picking the bible. you clearly missed the part that said that adam and eve ate the forbidden fruit. they should have eaten the snake rather than a fruit. veganism is the reason humans are in this mess.
I too am a Christian and vegan for the animals...
I think it is more in alignment with God's original plan, but I don't think that it should be forced upon, because of 1 Timothy 4
Since I've gone Vegan, I've gotten so much push back from other Christians.Honestly I thought I was the only one in my Fellowship.
Hello fellow Vegan Christian 👍🏽
I'm a devout Christian and a vegan. It was actually a fundamental part of my transformation on my journey with Christ.
Holy Spirit led me into veganism after showing me a few of the verses you mentioned, actually. I asked for healing or significant improvement from my asthma, and following a vegan diet has helped me SO much.
1 Timothy 4:1-3 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils. Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron. Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.
I love God's creation, why would I hurt it unnecessarily? We don't need it, don't eat it.
Revelation 11:18 says that those who destroy the earth will be destroyed.
Thanks for the video, I really want to be vegetarian (I'm not considering being vegan for now but maybe when I'm older) but all of my family members are meat eaters and I want to tell them a few points of why I want to be vegan, I've told them before that in the bible said a few things about humans eating plants (like in daniel) but I didn't really know a lot, this will help a lot thank you!
You can do it! Hope your transition goes well and that you eventually go full vegan. The animals and the planet need it! 💚🌱 Let me know if you need any specific videos that would help!
Christian vegan here God bless THANK you God for your LIFE, and Thank You Yputuber for your presentation! Happy valentine's day!
People also dont quote:
Matthew 12: 7 God wants MERCY not sacrifice, if you knew what it meant you would not have judged the innocent.
Hosea 6: 6&7 God wants MERCY not sacrifice, vs. 7 refers to Adam disobedience of the covenant.
Isaiah 11:6-9 says when the Messiah came he will bring back the earth to Edenic status.
The wolf will lie down with the lamb, the lion will eat STRAW like the ox. There will be no war & pain at HIS Holy Mountain.
Revelation 22: 14 / Revelation 2:7 --- only access to eat of the Tree of Life which is in the Garden of God (Eden) is by DOING the Commandments (Thou shalt not kill)
In Romans, it was referring to eating meat that was supposedly sacrificed to idols but was sold in the marketplace as there was too much meat for the priests to eat. The mature Christians knew that the meat was fine because there is no power in those idols to defile the meat. However, out of sensitivity to the immature Christians recently out of paganism, it was suggested by Paul to not eat certain meat around the immature Christians who thought the meat was something dangerous still thinking that the inanimate idols had power.
Romans 14:2 For one believeth that he may eat all things: but he that is weak, eats only herbs.
I like how he didn't bring up this verse... Plus I wanna be like Jesus who ate fish.
At the end of the day. I don't think you have to be vegan to be a Christian. I mean, consider the fact that our bodies are technically designed to eat meat. Cause we have canine teeth , and while we can get protein from plants, meat is the best way to get protein. As long as you don't eat an excessive amount of meat to the point of it being unhealthy. I don't think there's anything wrong with eating meat as a christian. But that doesn't mean you have to eat meat to be a Christian
Re: Loving your neighbor.
Would it be considered love to encourage or enable someone to use drugs or alcohol (or anything known to be unhealthy)? Of course not, right?
If we look around us, we see people with heart disease, diabetes, cancers, and so many other diet and lifestyle diseases which could be reduced and/or eliminated by a whole foods, plant-based diet. So in the same way as with drugs and alcohol, it is not really loving others if we encourage or enable them to consume unhealthy items that the world calls “food”.
And for those who say they just cant give up cheese (or other addictive products): ok, so don’t give them up. Just crowd them out. There are so many amazing foods out there, and we dont need to worry about “avoiding” or “eliminating” things from our diets so much, if we are so busy filling up on the truly good stuff!
Makes sense . I recently have started a plant based diet and I am Christian. . I wonder secretly why God hasn’t revealed this to me earlier as a lifestyle choice for my health , fitness and better way to live . Am I that slow ? Was I not committed enough in following Christ ? Whst took me sooo long ? I’m 60 and just now “ figuring it out “ feeling incredibly stupid and ignorant , I somewhat get it but not why I didn’t catch in earlier even though I’ve been around vegans and vegetarians for years . I even attempted bring vegetarian years ago and came up short . Just thinking out loud . Live this video !!!
I was on the other end. Being Vegan brought me closer to God. I was agnostic at one point and then ealized that our ethics and morals weren't developed through evolution but derived from our creator and it started my transition. I became born again recently and learning more and more.
Check out Daniel 1:8-20 👍
It's optional for everyone to be vegan and not murder eating meat.
Hi, I'm not a vegan, but i plan to turn vegan due to Biblical reasons, i turned from a carnivore to a flexitarian meaning i have limited eating non-veg, but soon intend to give up all non-veg and animal products, and we can really make a very strong case for veganism from scriptures
starting from Genesis 1:29, it was the vegan creation of Genesis 1 that God declared as "very good", but i also believe that we shouldn't impose it on fellow brothers and sisters in Christ who may not be vegans, Christ bought us all with his precious blood, vegans and non-vegans alike, so lets not make this a division causing issue in the Church, peace!
I have used every one of these arguments when talking with Christians to no avail.
I am a Baptised Jehovah's witness and become a vegan. I support the paradise earth kingdom in Matthew 6:10 by preaching the word. People think I am nuts being a vegan but done my research and sticking to it. It was God original plan in Eden and it is in the new system so I can in this system aswell.
I just saw Jesus at Tacotarian in Vegas. He said “don’t tell anybody I’m back” “I wanna eat first”
Seventh day adventist and vegan 🌱❤
Eden was vegan, and heaven will be!
lol. God and Jesus always humans to eat meat. your heaven will have meat
No there not i've been to adventist church they'er phonies!
Good video. Went whole foods, plant based in January 2023. In the Essene Gospel of Peace being vegetarian is stressed, but dairy from your own animals is allowed.
Raised in the Adventist church, I’ve noticed so many members that are not even vegetarians and feel so confused, which is how I found this video. Thanks!
Vegan = don’t kill/torture animals. Jesus= Prince of Peace. God = love. How could Christians possibly argue that Jesus preached anything other than peace/not killing? It’s utterly common sense! It’s like people are trying to gaslight us into believing nonsense and defying common sense!
This is the best argument for Christian veganism I've heard. There's a popular argument for Christian veganism at the moment that is throwing doubt on the word of God, I don't believe this helps and I don't believe it's necessary. In fact, it will only alienate vegans in the church more. As a Christian vegan I've faced hostility in church, I even had to sit through a sermon where a pastor was teaching that veganism is linked with paganism and contributed to the escalation of sin before the flood, which is why God told Noah to eat meat. This was done in a small church where everyone knew I was vegan. I pray that I will be able to answer people in the clear, well-articulated and non-confrontational way that this speaker does.
I guess my comment to you would be: how does a vegan lifestyle bring glory to the kingdom of God and how does being a vegan come into alignment in spreading the gospel across the world and making deciples of Christians?
If Jesus was here today his main priority would be to save the lost, I believe he wouldn't be advocating a vegan lifestyle as it would be in contention to being a believer. Also in your closing hypotheticals about stabbing an animal and bleeding them... In OT God required burnt offerings but we don't do that now because Jesus died as the perfect sacrifice.
Hey Joanna! 👋 Thanks for watching and for your comment. My question back would be how does loving your neighbor bring glory to God? As mentioned in the video Jesus said the second greatest commandment was to love your neighbor as yourself. I would politely suggest researching what is happening to our brothers and sisters as a result of animal agriculture so it’s not just me saying it. But our decision to consume animals especially on the scale it is now hurts our brothers and sisters and I don’t think that brings glory to God. Workers getting PTSD, nearby communities largely populated with people of color and low income getting diseases, people dying of our number one killer heart disease, food and resources being wasted contributing to the starvation of certain populations, causing pandemics like coronavirus and other diseases like mers, sars, Ebola, mad cow disease, h1n1, avian flu, etc that are causing a ton of suffering and death can’t be what Jesus meant by living thy neighbor. So my answer would be because by going vegan you are acting out of love for your neighbor like Jesus did and said to do and sacrificing your selfish desires. That’s how it would bring glory to God. How does killing Gods creatures unnecessarily for our taste pleasure while simultaneously causing more suffering to humans and destroying our planet bring glory to God. I don’t think it does. To answer the other couple of points. Being vegan is not in contention to being a believer. It is in alignment for the reasons I bring up in the video and in this comment. And if Jesus was the perfect sacrifice and because of that he ended animal sacrifice then why are we still killing them if we don’t need to. Again especially if we know what we do about how terrible it is for humans, the environment, our health, and for the animals. Thanks again for watching and for your thoughts! 💚🌱
This is a great question. I think there are lots of ways a vegan lifestyle brings glory to the kingdom of God. With regards specifically to spreading the gospel, one way is through promoting the health benefits of eating a whole-food plant-based diet, helping people to become healthy. This is similar to medical missions, in which medical professionals cure people's illnesses. In both cases, the people who are helped are then far more receptive to the gospel.
I’m vegan 7 years and newly Christian. I’m struggling though to understand how the lion could eat straw when it’s an obligate carnivore and it would die without meat
Every moving thing that lives shall be food for you; and just as I gave you the green plants, I give you everything” [Gen 9:1-3].
Romans 14
20 Do not destroy the work of God for the sake of food. All food is clean, but it is wrong for a man to eat anything that causes someone else to stumble.
21 It is better not to eat meat or drink wine or to do anything else that will cause your brother to fall.
I think your intentions and idea for this vid was great. I just want to add that a little extra context with the Bible verses would be good. I suppose people should or could research for themselves, but if vids like this are to inform and to let people decide, adding more context and in depth research is better than pulling out a single relevant verse.
Eating animals can’t be a sin because Jesus fed the 5,000 with bread and fish.
After the great flood, God now introduces and so welcomed all meats into our diets.
"God blessed Noah and his sons, and said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth.
2 And the fear of you and the dread of you shall be upon every beast of the earth, and upon every fowl of the air, upon all that moveth upon the earth, and upon all the fishes of the sea; into your hand are they delivered.
3 Every moving thing that liveth shall be meat for you; even as the green herb have I given you all things."
Gen 9:1-3 (KJV)
Hurrah!
Eating animals is not a sin. It is viewed as unethical, but we have free will. It is much better for us to eat plants as it is our original dietary plan. After men's sin, we did a lot of things we were not designed to do. We should focus on repentance and the Gospel.
Thank you so much for this!!
Hey man - Incredible video! I researched this for a couple years actually and made a website about it. I finally got around to making a video compiling all this information last month and got it posted. Can't believe I'm just finding your video now, but we hit on all the same points! I think you will really enjoy my video as well as we seem to be quite like-minded regarding our interpretation of the views, and I'll add a few more for you! Hosea 2:18 states that killing animals will be banned in the future - this future is talking about the same time as God's Holy Mountain that you reference in Isaiah, so not only will all animals be "vegan" at this time, humans will as well! Further, Ecclesiastes 3:18 and Genesis confirm that animals and humans have the same breath of life and spirit (Ruwach and Nephesh in Hebrew) and it's just as likely that animals will go to heaven as it is that humans will, according to the Bible! Otherwise, in heaven we can see that it's described as "Eden Restored" in Revelations 22 - A couple other points, you had mentioned Daniel I believe eating plant-based against meat-eaters and coming out stronger and more spiritual - This also happens in Exodus/Numbers, God offers people manna (which is also described as angelic bread and is more literally a white sap stuff you get from trees more in the middle east) and they chose to eat Quail instead and were struck down with the meat between their teeth.
I also touch on Romans and not only that, but I respond to the parts of Romans, Timothy, and Corinthians that anti-vegans commonly use against vegans - as these verses calling people eating plants "weak" was referring to Jewish peoples' faith as they didn't believe Christ's sacrifice was enough and that the meat was offered to idols, and Timothy is speaking about False Asceticism, which also includes banning marriage, so not talking about vegans at all.
I also mention why Jesus ate fish, how it related to prophecies he had to fulfil and how this wasn't actually his first choice, and how he doesn't explicitly eat meat at the Last Supper in any of the four accounts, besides being "Eager to partake in the lamb" in Luke's account. Otherwise, Jesus's brother James the Just was definitely an early Christian vegetarian (considered vegan by today's standard) and the Bible would likely be more clearly vegan slanted had he not died in martyrdom like Jesus, allowing Paul to be the vessel through which most of the new testament was written.
I think that's about all I can remember in summary of my video - check it out if you have time - I subscribed to your channel and it's a pleasure to make your acquaintance through this comment - Great work with this video and awesome visuals by the way!
This is the second time replying because for some reason yt doesn't want to post my comment. But thank you for the additional research here and in your video. I plan on doing another 1-2 videos on this topic so the extra help here is very much appreciated. Thanks for watching and subscribing!!
God gave the animals to mankind to be as food in Gen9. We are free in Christ.
Originally it was grapes - not fish ---- this is a fact.
Jesus was a essene - he was a strict vegetarian and ate a fleshless diet - as well did his parents and the 7 generations of his family before hand ... They never were contested .
We are lied to often
So was James the righteous , his brother
I am a former Christian, turned atheist, turned vegan :) - Even though I no longer believe the Bible is the inspired word of God, I appreciate the perspective offered in this video.
Jesus Loves You.
Great video! “For God so loved the world” not just humans. (John 3:16)
I am a Christian vegan . Thank you for presenting such a clear perspective, backed up by appropriate scripture
”As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables.“
Romans 14:1-2 ESV
This should settles it.
I am sooooo happy I found your channel.
Thanks so much for your channel and messages.
"Forbidding to marry, to abstain from meats, which God created to be received with thanksgiving by them that believe and know the truth.
4 For every creature of God is good, and nothing is to be rejected, if it be received with thanksgiving:
5 for it is sanctified through the word of God and prayer.
6 If thou put the brethren in mind of these things, thou shalt be a good minister of Christ Jesus, nourished in the words of the faith, and of the good doctrine which thou hast followed :"
1 Timothy 4:6+
We can't kill animal for our taste
You nailed it! Thank you for making this video. I was researching myself to come up with references, Scripture and logic for my non plant based friends and aquaintences, Christian and non-Christian. I'll refer them to this video. Thank You!
Great video. I feel like being vegan is aligned perfectly with being a christian due to showing all living beings empathy. God bless you!
8:20 I am the only vegetarian in my family. Everyone else eats meat and the only one who actually accepts and cheers for me (and has stopped nagging and asking me when I will stop being stupid and eat meat again) is my mom because she's Christian.
Well that's nice of her to not nag you 😂 Thanks for watching 🌱💚
Romans 14 guides us clearly on this subject
I think it's DEFINITELY more in alignment to be a vegan as a Christian. Mainly because when in Genesis 1:29: God said, "See, I give you every seed-bearing plant that is upon all the earth, and every tree that has seed-bearing fruit; they shall be yours for food." It was only when sin entered the world that the eating of animals began.
I do think vegans should be christians, because then they would be SAVED!