It's already been 1 year since the Magic should have this buff... But hey, better late than never.
Aim54’s raining in from space at mach 4-5 turning 25g is going to be something else
@@sanmiguel4774dual axis maneuvering is a hell of a drug, that’s how it worked. Each missile was 400,000 dollars. The US wouldn’t have fielded it as long as they did if it wasn’t capable of what it was stated to do. 16G single axis. 25G dual axis
But doesn’t war Thunder not do dual axis? I’m unaware of other missiles utilizing dual axis in game. Maybe this is just a buff to make it more competitive?
@@christopherchartier3017they don't, the Magic 2 would be 50G if they used two plane
I was just playing sim with my F14 and my phoenix did a sparrow type of maneuver at close quarters i wasn't expecting it to hit at such low altitude and range
these buffs are only on the dev server and arent in the game yet, you prolly just got rlly lucky
F14B is my fav plane in WT. Aim-54's have the explosive mass of a 250 pound bomb so at low altitude they do kill like dropping a bomb with a zero second fuse. I have the J-11, F-16c, MLU. You got three fighting styles in one plane, aggressive with no 54c's and a billion flares, medium bvr with a bunch of sparrows, or chill and smoke a bowl with a full loadout of 54c's. Btw the aim-54's A & C surprise me too sometimes, they should be more fun after the patch as well.
@@tooshmart6669 I love the F14B too it's just too fun it's a mutli role fighter and I enjoy doing multiple stuff with it at the same time and I do love the 54C alot
@@molstad182 I guess I got really lucky that It acted like a sparrow then
Magics 1 got buffed too, hope Mirage 3C from the 60s not gonna end fighting planes from 90s haha
Mat you gotta calm down man, really making like 4 videos a day for us 😭
vide can be made in 10 mins ,its literally just commentary and game footage
@@maxpopkov1432 plot twist: Mat is actually a war thunder Dev which is why his predictions are so accurate
Another French W , i am pleased
Everytime the magic two gets buffed I give a slight side eye to the mirage F1 premium, this thing has 2 magic 2s at 11.3, at this point it’s probs the best thing carried at 11.3,
yeah it’s only 2, but my philosophy is save them for priority targets and I personally will always go for a gun kill first before using a missle
Do not use that Mirage in RB.. Just don't. I have it and SB is much better. It got an MTI mode and rear aspect long range missiles.
I played a few match with it in RB,but i never go back with it.
Personally as someone who uses that mirage in air rb I have done pretty well if you can launch with the missle within a mile it's almost a guaranteed kill every time. It's defiantly usable in air rb just gotta have good positioning and like you said target prioritization
You forgot the IRCM... Mirage F1 now is one off the best 11.3 in this game, a good Dogfighter, Bomber and is soo fast at the deck, a reality surprising Aircraft. (I have to confess, before it was one of the worst fighters in the game, after receiving a buff to its flight model and the IRCM became one of the best 11.3 IMO)
Who can't play Mirage F1 premium well has a skill issue.
2xMagic 2 and 2 gunpods setup is so good, and you can carry rocket pods+bombs to get free RP during early match.
I like your videos man, don't worry about anyone else i like knowing that I've got every bit of news uptodate when i watch your vids 👌
They should be better doe, gaijin still didnt add 2 plane stabilization for the magics
4 magic 2's and 4 MICAS is gonna be a cracked loadout
Actually MICA have also an IR variant that has taken the place of magic 2. It should be full mica loaded.
7:41 f-14 now has auto slats lets go, hope the F-16 gets its auto flaps/slats as well
Im just happy theyre putting the bags on the f14 and the auto slats : D
Great job as always, matAWG
magic 2 (35g) + mica (50g) = 💀
I think that with the arrival of Rafale weapons, we are ready for a fierce competition for the title of the best European delta(gripen
Sadly there is no competion, Rafales are better in so many points@@rafale_polit
4:05 mmm nop, they don't need to fix that, because half of the missiles they don't have a Max G inself, they just have a G limiter, for example the AIM-7F the missile inself can actually go up to 33Gs, but it has a G limiter of 25Gs due to the seeker head of it, it's supposed to be fixed in the AIM-7M because the 7M has a better seeker that can make it able to go up to 30Gs.
And the same with oder missiles...
Like? I want to know what's limited by seeker head and what isn't limited by seeker head
Particularly american missiles
@@Stardust_the_F-104C
AIM-9G
AIM-9G
AIM-9L
AIM-9M
AIM-7F
Just those.
9G and H can also do 30Gs by their own body.
Btw 9H in the game should be able to pull 20Gs, not 18Gs, but meh.
AIM-9L and M they both can also go up to 40Gs but again, it is limited to 30Gs.
@@wardogleader3200 late response, I screenshot your reply basically as soon as I saw it ngl, which was yesterday. So 9G and 9H are limited by seeker, aren't they
Edit: it turned to 2 days. Basically right after I saw your replies on the same day it was sent I screenshotted it
The aim 54 in real life had a mode that locks automatically with the missle radar instantly when the enemy is at short range so the missle will instantly starts to turn
@@ayylmao8901They’re not gonna add that for obvious reasons
@@christopherchartier3017 They will at some point , when AMRAAM/R-77/MICA etc. will be properly in the game. It will still lack against them in closer ranges, so it won't be a problem. If they do it now...They will turn the game in one role movie. No point doing it.
I got an Ace today in the M4K so the M2s are definitely op because I am a below average player.
Great video as always but I have a question for you ,what's the best way to grind the british air tree I have the tornado f3 and the fgr2 both I find are just crap in air rb the gr1 harrier is point less not fast enough to get to bases or u get killed by friendly for killing the base .
well if the AIM54Cs have been buffed the F-14 is IMO the best plane in the game, easy 2 kills each match with them before.
@@sanmiguel4774not anymore, with phoenix properly lofting and them being the same speed, the phoenix burns longer and since it’ll be coming down from altitude it’ll maintain speed. The aim54c will probably be the new META.
@@theperson5185 the meta at the moment is at Ground level at ranges up to 10km. So nice try
how? I have launched and landed by the time multiple of my missiles hit and I am rearming, meanwhile you got to deal with a cloud of F-16-15s to get to our airbase before I am rearmed. @@sanmiguel4774
F14 is very meta, most just dont know how to use it, like a mystery to them.
Praying those Phoenix changes come this patch before the rest of the Fox 3s so we can have a fun time🙏🏾🙏🏾
You'd think that a PID controller on the missile would smooth out the movement but it looks no better than the igla's bang-bang controller. Gaijoob moment
Buffing the Magic 2 might suggest that they dont want to add the MICA IR soon
I don't understand how he can lock on targets with the mouse, can someone can tell what key parameter I have to set up to fire a missile like that?
Pheonix
magics just keep getting buffed godayum
How do you slave the IR seeker head to your mouse aim point ?
Is there a setting i need to check, or is there a button to uncage the active seeker head whilt the missile is on its rail ?
only certain jets have it, the mirage 2000f5, f16c, mig29s, and a few others i believe
it automatically does that on planes with HMD which is only a select few aircraft as of now
Don't get me excited because I believe is this really happening?
This is actually a nice change. Currently, it doesn't feel that great to use Magic 2s since they accelerate hard while not turning early enough which means you have to be within like 2.5km but not under 1km for it to be able to hit anything.
Under 1.7 (1.5 for MiG-23s for some reason) for them to be the unflareable sticks of doom
Another a5c buff for casual fun
Mat do a video about how to counter amraam, evasive maneuvers ecc...
The same manouvers used to evade sparrows actually works. The difference is only for who launch the missile that doesn't need to keep locking.
So the already op A5c got a buff, thank you gaijin very cool
How is the A-5C OP? It turns about as well as a brick, doesn't carry enough ordinance to destroy a base, and cane barely break Mach without tearing itself apart.
It also got AIM9P, which is better than Magic1 due to range. No idea when it got it, but it does. I would reccomend using that, since it glides sooooo much better.
its a shame that the mirage 4k hs no HMD
So question: how do you hmd a missile in 3rd person on Xbox? I can't find the right settings
Just freelook around, your radar/missile seeker will follow you while you freelook, just remember changing your radar to boresight, then turning it off seems to disable the seeker HMD pointing capability.
Under the common settings tab you’re looking for “mouse look activation” , on PlayStation I use circle which is ur B button. On my channel I have a complete control mapping for consoles on top tier jets to use radar and missiles etc
I have it set to L2 and use left stick for looking around. Perfect for dogfighting my right stick is flight stick if I'm in afterburner once I hold L2 it holds throttle. PS5 I exclusively play sim and works great for me.
@@IanNuke the problem is that I can free look hmd while in cockpit view but free view won't move it unless I'm moving the whole aircraft. I wish I had an example of some kind but none of the key binds let me move the sight in 3rd person
Aim54 should be faster mach 5 and more accurate in war thunder. In long range BVR, It usually can beat Aim120C easily in DCS.
R27ER should be nerf a bit, It should be mach 4.5 and having a shorter range.
Well for one the Phoenix is missing it’s proper lofting profile, so it’ll never climb high enough to reach that Mach 5 number. The R-27ER seems a bit fast, but it never really gets over Mach 4.5 in game anyways. The Phoenix already outranges the R-27ER in game
I paused it at 6:02 And the Magic Pulls 79 Gs XDDDD
I guess I'll just have to finish my grind to the Su-27 and F-15J so next patch I can just bully the F-14s. Maybe I'll play a bit with the event Mirage too. We'll see.
@@mikeyplayzwrld the thing is
the phoenix isn't that fast, so you can always kill the F14 first then notch
@@mmneaapro596LMFAO buddy I’d have those Phoenix missiles on you well before you get a shot off. I got more range and everything on you.
@@mikeyplayzwrld They've bullied me enough when I got uptiered to them with barely enough countermeasures while they just spam Phoenixes and land. I would be perfectly happy hunting F-14s in the F-16AJ if it had a bit more flares. It's still a fun plane though.
@@gtmike916 you realize the main reason to use phoenixes is to catch afk players
like even on the event mirage, i mostly go for those F14 going space high, i just fire a matra 530D, then just remain stuck to ground, and wait for my kill
and let's be real event mirage is just bad
not gonna talk about those R-27 missiles
i have seen multiple times, a mig29 going low, then firing a single R27, the F14 was dead before any of his missiles reached halfway
The AIM-54C is all kinds of screwed up. The seeker doesnt have any of its real functionality, the top speed of mach 5 never gets achieved. At least the maneuverability gets closer to IRL
I’m pretty sure all fox 3 seekers are not performing right. It’s top speed of Mach-5 is only achievable in high altitude high speed conditions, AND once it lofts high enough (it’s not lifting high enough at all I believe). But the maneuverability seems nice now, it actually makes it competitive
They are buffing phoenixs for real bvr, cause this all ARH... 8 lame second Burn time and dropping energy like crazy? Hell nah, I'm stayin with my tomcat.
The energy drop is mainly due to persistent wobbling, which plagues the new Fox-3's more than others currently. Once that is at least reduced, the missiles will have far more end-game energy (They can still reach out and touch someone at 60km+ in their current state). Aim-54 will have more range, which the AMRAAM/R-77/MICA etc. will have more versatility, especially closer in where the agility will be nutty
@@Registered_SimpI feel like the new Phoenix maneuverability makes it more competitive now. I’d like to see mat do another R-27ER vs Aim-54C vid
@@christopherchartier3017 Honestly, this really only changes the missiles lethality at high altitudes. The change that would make the missile truly competitive would be a fix to the loft profile. Phoenix lofts at 17.5 degrees right now, but should be lofting closer to 60 degrees and holding altitude before coming down at a very high angle. Did some testing on the dev server using the new TACVIEW mechanic in replay and found manual loft pretty much at least doubles the missiles end-game energy at super long ranges (Impact at mach 1.7-2 from an 80km shot depending on altitude of target), even with the bootleg loft profile. That is what would truly make the missile stand out.
@@Registered_Simp Yeah it’s missing that for sure. A 17.5 degree loft really does nothing impressive to its performance
@@christopherchartier3017 Yep. Most you would squeeze out of an Aim-54 right now would be ~120km kinetic range at best. If modeled correctly, that should be trivial for a high-altitude Aim-54 launch. Max kinetic should be pushing ~180km
bro its the same nothing changed
After doing a side-by-side on both dev and live servers, yes. The missiles absolutely have changed...
people will still say the 9M is the single most overpowered missile
It is in Air Sim and Ground RB just because of the smokeless motor. In Air RB definitely not the best.
@@ICECAPPEDSKY sim i can understand, ground rb any missile can be strong cause you're not really looking for missiles constantly, especially if you're trying to avoid AA
Aren't Matra Magics already the best at 11.0-11.7?
As for Phoenixes it's american skill issue all over again - they launch those at the start when 99% of the opposing team hug the ground. Of course they'd have low hit rates!
magic 2 arethe best in 11.0-11.7 but in 12.3-12.7 they were lacking in comparison to aim-9m and most inportantly r73 so it's quite nice
I mean, there is certainly allot of American skill issue there. But the missile is virtually useless as a killing tool against anyone with eyes and a brain. These buffs bring it closer to its historical status, and will actually make the missile one you can't just go "Oh, it's just an Aim-54" and borderline ignore.
If you’ve used the phoenixes in matches you’d know that’s not really a skill issue. Those things are poo as of right now. Hopefully the better maneuverability makes them more competitive
I think its not Buff Its Bug Mat !! Only Python And R73 Can Doo Hard Turn's like This
Can u Test AAM-3 Cuz It Bug'd in game and Not Flying Well something wrong with it
They make magis to op in real life they are not as good
They are a full documentation in mirage 2000 topic warthunder forum, in reality magic are better -> 50g dual plan and better irrcm
they buffed it so the event jag wouldnt look so shit
the magic 2 was already a very good missile, but now you can use it in dogfights or high offboresight shots more often
@downloadpizza2547 Yeah, but they never felt like they had particularly good wez, so this is a nice upgrade. Also, because i played the early version of the magics. The number of times where I would shoot at 1km and it would either completely fail to pull or they would run out of energy. After the drag reduction buff, they became actually fun. Now they look to be straight up hilarious.
@@ruska9773At 11.0 though, one of the only IRCCM missiles at that BR xD
@@yujinhikita5611 Oh Magic's a year/a year and a half ago were really rought to play with, it incredible how much they have improved !
@@ruska9773i wouldn't say worse as far as ik both magic 2 and r73 irccm is about the same