Brand New Pico 4 - Good For PCVR & Sim Racing?
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6 Months after release is a brand new Pico 4 any good for PCVR and Sim Racing? Lets find out!
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Pico 4 + 7900XTX + 5800X3D + Wifi 6 + Virtual Desktop = about 30ms latency, and next-to-no compression. I'm very happy with this solution. I sold my old G2, and as a direct comparison the Pico lenses made all the difference.
And you didnt noticed a bigger latency in comparison to the g2?
@@ThePape78 honestly no. Not even with Beatsaber
Ah this sounds promising as I'm looking to upgrade my 3060ti to a 7900XTX. However I only have a 5600X (non-3D). Then again, I did just buy a Benq EX3410R so VR can wait 😛
@@enterthebiscuit I don't think a 5800X3D would a huge amount of difference. The graphics card is doing the hard work.
Does PCVR only improve gaming graphics and visuals or does it improve visuals on downloaded 3d movies?? 😅
Love the channel Karl, keep up the great content
Just to touch on your experiences with ACC. ACC in particular needs a lot of tweaking to get it to run well in VR. OpenXR/OpenComposite is basically a must run for ACC. Fixed foveated rendering and CAS helps massively. Without it, my 3080 struggles to run it above low or medium. With OpenXR I can run my Quest 2 at full resolution with 150-160% VR resolution scale and most settings on high. If I didn't find out about OpenXR, I would've given up on VR right away. iRacing and AMS2 are much better in VR than ACC right out of the box. ACC is just not very well optimized for VR.
Have you tried setting the FOV tangient multiplier in Oculus Tray Tool / Debug Console? I've set mine to 0.7/0.7 and without any visual impact there's a MASSIVE performance increase.
acc isn't well optimized for nothing actually lol
@@andreasotto1977 Yeah, I use 0.7/0.68. Seems to help without a noticeable difference in FOV.
@@andreasotto1977 Thanks for this tip. Made a big difference for me.
This is good to know - I have AMS2 and Raceroom. Keeping a close eye on sim-racing VR and those headsets with pancake lenses... :)
Great information. I toyed with the idea of getting the Pico 4 after trying it in a store and being blown away by the image quality of the pancake lenses. But the QA issues I read about it put me off, and then I bought a Quest 2, which I love for iRacing (cable free), but the image quality can sometimes be an immersion breaker. Great channel Karl, your straightforward reviews inspired me to start my own channel.
Thanks mate!
I've been planning getting a VR for an year now, ended up getting a projector. I'll just wait for a VR with pancakes, foveated rendering and the option for cable PCVR for simracing. in the meantime I'll invest on a decent cockpit and pedal set
@@gustavogoesgomes1863 I think that's a sensible upgrade path. I'm still drawn to the thought of triples, basically for the reasons outlined by Karl; VR for PC gaming (when used wirelessly) just doesn't produce the same level of graphic fidelity. At the same time, when I race VR, I often forget the graphics quality due to the immersion factor. But, when I am at the ADAC Sim racing expo in October (Dusldorf) I will be trying out triples, just to see what all the fuss is about.
@@gustavogoesgomes1863 the pico 4 has pancake lenses , and also you can use a cable connection as well to the pc i do both wireless and cable to the pc , so your sorted to get one
I’ve got a 2080 super and an i9 9900ks. With the quest 2 oculus debug tool I can change the amount of the screen that is turned on. By only running 55% vertical and 80% horizontal I still get full horizontal view and slightly reduced vertical fov but I can run iracing on class 2 graphics (second highest graphics out of 6 levels) and get a pretty solid 120fps that only occasionally scales down to 60fps when im surrounded by cars on a high end circuit.
I totally agree, there is a no returning point from wireless. I'm still amazed Sony pulled off the PSVR2 with a dangling cable.
About racing sims I think the problem is more related to the nature of the genere, long view distances are allways gonna end up hitting the screen´s grid phisycal resolution. There is no workoround to this other than increase pixel density. I own a Q2 and probably will upgrade to a Q3 but the Pico is a very tempting thingy.
Karl, I'm about to write a longer comment about my experience with the Pico 4, but as a short note before: If you try PCVR Sim Racing with the Quest 2 again, fiddle around with the FOV Tangient Multiplier settings. I've set mine to 0.7/0.7, which basically leaves out a whopping *49%* of the total rendered pixels you wouldn't see anyway. This leads to massive performance headroom you can use for higher settings. Thank me later. 😛
Can vouch. I set mine to 0.7/0.5 for a bit of a helmet like view and this allows me to crank up the SS to the point the game looks MUCH better for basically zero side effect. Unsure if this is even possible in other headsets, and to me represents a huge plus for Quest 2 right now for sim racers.
@@uber986 I think there was a reddit comment saying SteamVR should have a FOV slider in one of its beta versions, but that was quite a while ago and apparently that setting didn't make it into the regular branch yet.
How do you adjust the FOV tangent, using Sidequest? I haven’t seen that setting. Do you have to send and ADB command?
@@robertweekes5783 Just use the Oculus Debug Tool or Oculus Tray Tool.
There are 3rd party facial interface replacement options. The original one was very uncomfortable for me, but pretty much any 3rd party one will be miles better in terms of fit and comfort.
Karl , I hope you are well and also your family..Mate nice video, Have you given ACC a try with low settings and uping the Anti on VR Pixel to 130_140 mate it works beautiful for me..I have a3080 TI...also make sure Effects and the one under that are set to low as I found if they are above low it can get stutter..
Subbed! You just gave me the info I've been looking for all over the Internet in one video. All the details other reviewers leave out, and with a very similar PC setup to mine too.
I hope to see a similar Quest 3 review from ya. I'm stuck between Quest 3 and the full Index kit, wich will cost me about the same (~$1K) to get running on PC...
Quest $500 + Headstrap $150 + Pro controllers $300 = $950 without even considering a 6E router or VR cover.
- If the Pro controllers don't run flawless it's a deal breaker with the removal of the upper cameras. I know that I'll need 360° controller tracking for most shooters.
Q3 review under way mate!
You do not need pro controllers IME but thats your choice of course mate :)
VI Is very old now with poor visuals by todays standards IMO.
@@KarlGosling I would get the Index kit mostly for the Knuckles and base stations, but still have a decent HMD while I keep an eye out for an upgrade...
I could never blind fire in shooters with inside out tracking, and there are a couple games that I like which require arms pointed out at 180°, or even behind the back. Throwing (Grenades etc.) also feels way better with base stations. I would definitely give the stock Q3 controllers a fair shot, but I don't have high hopes.
Nice video! One thing that came to my mind is that you should use some other sims to test VR headsets. ACC is just awful in every headset if you dont have some nasa spec PC. I got it running okay with 3080, but it took ages to tweak everything and i still prefer iracing and AC VR. I dont need any eye candy in simracing, but i want picture to look smooth and i hate to see flickering. I would suggest to test VR in one of these: Iracing,AMS2 or AC. I have been thinking to uprage to pico 4 from quest 2, but im not sure yet. I use VR headset only in simracing.
My first VR was PSVR2 for Ps5 and i realy like it so i m toying with idea to buy Pico 4 for pcvr and i also have rtx3080 but now i see that is not good enough to have top end clear picture from Pico 4.
Thank alot for all this info in video 🥂🥂🥂
No worries mate! You'll still get a better than Q2 experience with a 3080 so I wouldn't change what I have for now... but Q3 maybe!
I totally agree that the Pico4 and Virtual Desktop is a must for wireless PCVR. I too prefer the Pico4 above the Quest2. Did you play Beatsaber only via Steam? Have you tried the "Rift" version? It was a lot better than the Steam version, but a few weeks ago there were some updates and now it is impossible to play the Oculus version, neither with the Quest2 nor the Pico4. Other than that... PCVR? Only Pico4.
Assetto I've managed to fiddle around with settings (I think everything but msaa is high - max) and get a pretty decent framerate at quest 2's native res and 90hz, with bitrate at 500 and encode res at 3664. Running a 1080ti. I do wish I had pancakes as I do notice that everything but the center is blurry but a cheapest pico 4 is still around 100 euro more than a cheapest quest 2 here.
just got a pico 4 because of the review and they have dropped in price to 260 on amazon right now! thanks for a great
review sir!👍👍
Oh thats a great deal!
Good review.. you ever goona review the psvr2??
Love the Ken artwork on your screens Karl, have you been playing some SF6? :D
I recently purchased the DPVR E4 to replace my rift s and quest 2 purely for sim racing and flight sims. It’s a really good budget headset with a DisplayPort only connection. I hope you don’t mind, but I recommended you to them as a great you tube reviewer and that they should send you one to review once they release their facial interface and lens protector’s. I’m really enjoying it and it retired my rift s for sim racing. It’s budget for sure with compromises but better FOV than oculus, Super-light in weight and DisplayPort for under £500 so I was sold haha Try AMS2 it’s so easy to run on high in vr with a 3080.
Oh thanks James! They actually got in touch and I have one on the way over, thank you!
The DPVR E4 is using the Quest 2 lenses and once you are used to pancake lenses, there is no way going back IMO.
@@Leynad778 I’m looking forward to quest 3 so I can try out pancakes. I’m a different user case, as much as I love my quest 2 for normal vr games, I absolutely can’t stand it for racing games and it will be the same for quest 3 for me too. I’ll gladly wager when I have a quest 3, I’ll still use dpvr e4 for sims.
For my personal tastes with racing or flight games, it has to be DisplayPort connectivity for me to enjoy it and I want a light in weight non front heavy headset so I can do long stints in comfort. For racing sims I used my rift s the last four years and I bought the dpvr e4 for sim racing to replace my ageing rift s. I’m really pleased with it, it’s like a modern day upgraded rift s, it has compromises, but like the rift s I can see me running this a good four years.
@@KarlGosling that’s great news! You and I appear to have similar headshapes, so here’s a tip for the dpvr e4 headstrap padding. The padding on the back of the headstrap you can pull it off because it’s Velcro, re attach 2 cms lower down than how it comes out of the box and for me it became super comfortable. When I first put it on out of the box, it was not comfortable for me, but by simply lowering the back padded cushion by 2cms it cupped the back of my head perfectly and I find it more comfy than my now retired rift s.
@@jamesleegte5753 I've bought the 8KX after the Pico 4 because I couldn't stand the compression and input lag. But I also bought a 4080 and that fixed the compression and input lag. So I will sell the 8KX even I like it and the FOV is even on small the biggest in PCVR-Gaming. The clarity of the Pico lenses are just superior and I've better performance or let's say overhead. They both run with solid 90 fps, mostly AMS2, and I like I can switch off my G9 with Virtual Desktop and run VR and Desktop with the headset. With the Pimax I have to put if off very often and you have to with AC and iRacing anyway.The Pico 4 is the best PCVR-headset if you have a 4080 and decent WLAN-router, at least under 1k. The experience with the 3080 before was like day & night regarding sim-racing and not sure what fixed it in the meantime.
Great review as always. *thanks for that. Just wondering: Haven't you mentioned in another video that you run your 4k triples at 1080p? Just for a test, I've tried to run ACC on 1080p (max. settings) on a 28" 4K Monitor and it looked like a PS1 game. It was terrible. So I can't even imagine having the same resolution on 55" screens??? Whereas the VR runs quite nicely with the FOV Tangient Multiplier turned down quite a bit. (0.7/0.3) with 180% resolution. (6700XT here) But the flickering in the fences and barriers is something I'm still struggling with on the Quest 2 hence I thought of triples.
No mate, 1440p @120hz.... 1080p would be far too low and not look sharp at all on 55's, 1440p looks great even on my 86" display downstairs, 4k is of course sharper but it's still hard to run with everything maxed out at 120hz on my 3080.
Karl, if you get the open XR plus open Composite all you can up the Graphics settings at 90 Hz for ACC it's a fantastic app...I have a 3080 ti
Yes mate I am familiar with it but from a review standpoint you cover the "out of box" experience, I only really covered VD because it's an in store app and is essential IMO.
@@KarlGosling Yes I totally understand,keep up the amazing videos .do you have the Primax Crystal?
Its pico 4 released in the states? The hmd seemed very well done given the limitations. Hopefully it did well enough to have an imoproved pico 5.
Have you had a chance to try the new Pico Virtual Desktop beta version? I've been trying it for a few days and it's a noticeable improvement (particularly the new 10 bit HVEC codec) and the SSR might help improve things visually which you have to run games at lower settings.
virtual desktop beta or the integrated pico software? would love to try
@@NyashaM4vd beta
yeah surprised no mention of the new VD update, video was about changes to Pico4 in latest 6 months and this is hands down the biggest change and the reason I'm buying it again
For pcvr, would you recommend a pico 4 or a quest 2? Which of these headsets has a better clarity when on wireless? Also, with a cable which one has a better clarity?
I've owned both the Pico 4 and PN3L. The PN3L is definitely better if you're doing PCVR only. Much less input lag, no compression artefacts, the DP port means you get higher frames, I think it's more comfortable as well. It's just better overall.
I think you are talking about Pico Neo 3 Link but for some users (me) a wired PCVR is just not feasible as my PC and my VR playspace are on opposite sides of the house.
Thank you
They remind me of the ready player one headset's. :)
I need help with a good cockpit to start a dd set up on for example can a gt omega art with stand direct drive or do I need a track racer
I will probably use the pico4 only with the usb-c cable, mostly for sim racing, i will be sit so the cable really isn't a problem, will i see way better quality and fps than the wifi setup? Pico is on the way to my home...
Not sure if Virtual Desktop is much better now or if it's the 4080 I've bought, but I'm selling the 8KX and using the Pico 4 for sim-racing, which was IMO awful with the 3080 before (the reason I've bought the 8KX). Instead of compression artifacts and latency, it's now super clear and I also getting used to the fact, I can switch to the desktop in VR (or navitage in menues in AC or iRacing if I would launch them).
When I first brought my Pico I brought their streaming assistant app which I thought is what I needed. I hated it and it was a pain in the ass to get working.
Then I brought virtual desktop and everything ran so much better.
Good advice. I also have a 3080 and get similar issues with wireless vr, I can't afford 3 decent triples though 😢
Everything is bloody expensive isn't it!
@@KarlGosling QQ: how do you drive those triples with a 3080? The overall resolution is 3x4k and you talked about high refresh rates at max settings. I know the 3080 is a good 4k GPU but I had no idea it's a great "12k" GPU. Are you making heavy use of DLSS etc, or simple 50% render scaling, or what?
ACC is not good in VR. Dirt2.0, AC, and Raceroom are okay. PC2 and AMS2 are good. At least thats been my experience.
4k VR gaming gives the 4090 purpose, lol.
Great video and solid advice as always Karl.
Assetton Corsa is by far the best, I've tried all of what you listed, Dirt is horrible, PC2 and AMS2 is decent, the rest are not even worth mentioning.
@@rehakmate the confusing part is AC #1 plays good in VR, but ACC is the worst in VR. Did they change game engines between games?
@@gasracing4000 Yes, ACC is unreal engine based
@@rehakmate I can't wait for AC2 but I have to say I am also excited for Forza Motorsport (yeah, Gran Turismo 3 on the PS2 still has a place in my heart lol)
Bro you gotta try the revised Bigscreen Beyond!
great info as always karl. ive just upgraded to a new nvidia 4090 equiped pc and bought a pico 4 yesterday. coming from a quest 2 ive tried all the settings in karls previous videos for having it wired to my pc and running everything in highest detail possible in stream assistant and steam vr but too be honest i dont see any better clarity or resolution than my quest 2. if anything its exactly the same and i think i prefer my quest as i can run it at 120fps in amb2 and assetto corsa. i could be doing something wrong but would love to hear any final bit of advice before i box it up and return it. thanks in advance
I just was saddened by rumors that Quest 3 will not have IPD support for 71+mm and will stick to 68mm max. Which cuts off a lot of men. Thought of PICO 4 since PICO actually goes up to 72mm. Thought I should check out how PICO 4 is doing so far after a somewhat bumpy release. And here you go - a fresh video from Karl. Thank you. The only thing I wish PICO 4 had is ringless controllers. They are soooo much more comfortable than these annoying rings. Also I agree WIRELESS is absolutely unrivaled.
Great timing then mate!
Thinking to buy this with my 4090 rig for some dirt 2 rally
I'd go Q3 mate.
@@KarlGosling why? (was thinking the same)
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Hey, i wanted to ask about this.
So, i noticed whenever i opened up Air Link, It was normal, it ran fine and smooth, but every once in a while my frames would drop. and it would be very laggy. it would end but it keeps happening and its making Air Link unusable and all the games i play unplayable. if you can, a fix for this would be appreciated. thank you
It's a shame the Pico4 doesn't *also* have a DP link option in the same headset. Wireless is the only way to go for room-scale VR, but for simulators I want the cable.
Agreed mate!
@@KarlGosling You can use a cable, with a network cable so get can charge and avoid the slower wifi... This is what I have setup.
Can’t beat the immersion of VR. ACC with a 4090 and some tweaks and you get solid frames on mostly Epic settings, full resolution. That’s with a Reverb G2, maybe the Pico 4 is harder to run.
Even though you need to run low or medium aettings for sim racing, how is the visual clarity compared to the HP Reverb G2? I have a 4090and run 3400x3350 res on my Reverb but wondering if the Pico is a better image?
With pancake lenses the overall clarity and sweet spot is much larger but the colours and blacks are better on the G2.
How is it on DCS, for flight sim
So while you were playing beat saber and I could see your TV screen the visuals and the gameplay looked unbelievably good. I am extremely new to VR and I only own a pico 4 with no gaming PC. I know this is a very stupid thing to say but if I bought a pretty good gaming PC will it actually make what I see on my pico 4 lenses significantly better than when using standalone?? Because I’m still trying to get my head around the fact that the same device (pico 4) can produce such significantly better visuals when it is connected up to a computer. I mean obviously the computer will be extremely powerful but I can’t seem to get my head around the fact that the same device can pump out insanely better visuals??
The Pico 4 has a mobile phone processor in it (Qualcomm XR2)... a gaming PC has a CPU and GPU the size of a shoe box! Yes the PC experience is literally 100x better visually! The Pico 4 does nothing other than act as a display when connected to a PC.
@@KarlGosling thank you so much Karl for your reply! I’m going to treat myself to a good gaming PC soon and finally experience the walking dead chapter 1 & 2. I recently bought the PSVR2 and wasn’t impressed with the lense quality at all. It has this grain effect constantly and in darker lit scenes (I love horror games which are obvs dark a lot) it was just to immersion breaking. I’m hoping that if I get a good gaming PC I could experience such an incredible game with a bit better visuals. Thank you anyway for your reply 👍🏻👍🏻
I am a main vr user in sim racing and i have a quest 2, should i move over to the pico 4? If yes then why?
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I’m looking at buying a Chillblast pc for flight sim. Would you use this headset for flight sim, I’m happy to be wired. I’m also looking at triple screen oiled as well for the same reasons you give. Msi GeForce Rex 4090.
You'll get a great experience with this and a 4090 but there is no need to buy a wireless headset if you are only wanting to run flight sims wired mate, something like a G2 might be a better option.
Wouldn't it help if you turn off that second display??
i dont see a difference at all between 72hz and 90hz so i put the settings to godlike at 72hz, its amazing, only issue i have is that my fov on virtual desktop seems to be lower than my headset, im using a rtx 3060 ti and an i7 12700. My pc is connected to a wifi booster with ethernet and the games run smoothly. I absolutely love the pico 4 since its my first upgrade after a first gen WMR headset
what's raceroom like on the pico 4
What wired cable did you use to get the pico4 to work in wired mode? I havent found a cable or been able to get any cable to work as a wired display headset
Oculus link cable.
I'm waiting the day when we can set everything max in vr. I think pixel density has reached what we need, now we just need brute force to support it. And a huge FOV of course.
I agree!
Yeah, I'm about ready to pull the trigger on a 7900XTX (better value than 4080 and 4090 IMHO as I have less desire for RT and more desire for VRAM etc). I still don't know how Karl drives 3x huge TVs with a 3080, I mean that's basically three times 4k displays. At max settings?!? I have a 3060 ti and a single 4k TV, and it can't even do 4k60 in first-person shooters, let alone 4k90 in simulators.
Great video as normal, :) can you use virtual desktop via USB cable ?
No you can't
@@fad2679 cherrs
But you can get an Ethernet to USB adapter and connect your headset through it, will give you a rock solid solid connection with less latency (this will actually depend on how clear your network is, for example I have a dedicated high end ASUS AX86U Pro router and even on a separated channel I’m still getting worse result than cabled due to the interference I believe)
@@heartbroken3344 Cheers for the info
@@fad2679 Yes you can... and power/charge at the same time... you need a usb ethernet adaptor though.
Can it be used tethered and is there then power delivery that makes it run indefinitely? We just need a decent tethered VR headset but there doesn't seem to be any real choice any more.
Yes if you tether it to a decent charger.
@@KarlGosling i mean tethered to PC. I need to use it in situations where I cannot use WiFi streaming.
Would you pick this or the quest 3 for pc simracing only?
Q3 I have had one since launch, review coming, but basically the displays are much better than the P4's.
Im running a 4090 with a hp reverb g2v2 witch is still the absolute best for its price , tested the pico4 6 monts ago streaming assistant is a no go 👎👎 and the Viritual desktop is supersharp but lagging
Mine doesn't lag. The narrow sweet spot on the reverb, is a deal breaker. 4 mm of sweet spot, are you kidding me. PLus its windows based as in the undelying software.
Sorry, but this unit is not available in North America (Canada) currently. Wanted to get one. Can't.
Never has been, you need to order from the EU.
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I don't have a PS mate sorry.
Woth regards to your acc comments and your 3080 struggling a tad. I assume you were running dlss?
Im sure you know your stuff but if you didnt have it on, theoretically you could bump up the settings and have dlss and its pals make up the frame rate to help it?
DLSS Looks horrible IMO so is not for everyone, it's also not representative of the correct (native) render resolution either which is what I need to cover in a review mate.
@@KarlGosling fair enough. Thanks for the content, I'm finding it really useful.
got mine not that long ago and this wireless will last less than 1 hour! so playing wireless i really doubt you will be on charge...
Maybe yours is faulty mate, i get about 2 hours which is normal for a wireless headset.
Does pico4 pcvr needs higher graphic card than quest 2 to run pcvr games smoothly?
At the same render resolution and same refresh rate no, those two factors are what determine how hard a VR headset is to run.... like choosing between 1080p and 4k on a normal display, or 60hz and 120hz for example.... doesn't matter what brand they are.
YOu need a 5090 or possibly a 6090 to play a VR at 120fps, so you don't vomit, and 5k x 2 LCDs so it's not pixelated, at high setting so it doesn't look like Playstation 1 in ACC or other Sim racing games going forward...
The fact that some people can’t stand motion sickness and some people like me have something like sickness-resistance which means that I never in my life even on the first try experienced said effect is so interesting
@@heartbroken3344 Things are interesting on a scientific stance but from a commercial point of view VR will go mainstream when a few issues are solved and that includes motion sickness but also higher resolution, widerr pov, a more plug and play experience and a semplification of a bunch of parameters that the average bloke doesn't wanna know about...etc etc
sim racing starts @10:00
If pico4 is 120hz then it'll be perfect.
Some of my most played games are modded games on PCVR. Fallout 4 and Skyrim VR with the VR essentials mods for some reason don't work properly with virtual desktop. I have had issues with other games too. In my humble opinion a dedicated PCVR headset with lighthouse tracking is the way to go for PCVR. There are too many hiccups with getting games to run properly with virtual desktop. Plus you take a 30% performance hit when compressing the image and sending it over wifi. I'll stick with my index until the bigscreen beyond comes, my pico 4 is up for sale on marketplace.
If you can live with a cable then yes mate 100% agree.
You don't lose any performance when compressing the image, there is a separate dedicated chip on your GPU for it.
oh you definitely sacrifice performance for compression
Last week I had the Pico 4 for about half an hour before I returned it.
I was curious about the pancake lenses and whether the RGB passthrough would enable me to use my keyboard in VR to insult other drivers in the chat of open ACC lobbies. :-)
Please note: Wireless PCVR is not an option for me. I do not have a WiFi6 router, and if I play PCVR, its's 99% sim racing, and my sessions would easily extend the battery capability of the Pico. So I'm happy with wired PCVR.
Here's my baseline:
* Meta Quest 2
* 5800X3D
* RTX 4080
* Oculus Link Settings: 90Hz, 450mbit/s bandwith, 0.7/0.7 FOV tangient multiplier, render resolution cranked up to the max
* ACC: 160% PD, DLSS enabled, quite high details
With these settings I can run ACC easily at 90 FPS while the GPU does not draw more than 270W.
In comes the Pico 4.
I really loved the weight balance, the lenses and nice features as the motor driven IPD adjustability. Oh, and the magnets that hold the face gasket and optional prescription lenses are really, really good.
But: Why did they cheap out on a 3.5mm headphones jack? The internal speakers are not an option for sim racing, neither on the Quest 2 nor on the Pico 4.
At least my wireless headphones (Steelseries Arctis 7) just fit over the headstrap.
The passthrough experience was quite underwhelming. Some CZcams reviews suggested a way better quality than I got in the end. It looked as if I was looking through clouds of steam, and I very quickly had to bury the hopes of a clear view of my keyboard.
The connection via streaming assistant worked fine *after* I found a solution for the "Client software version outdated" message: You need to download and install the current version's apk manually, as the software won't update by itself.
I'm tech-savvy, so this wasn't a big issue for me, but it might be for others. And after the real plug and play experience I was used to from my Quest 2, this felt like an unnecessary obstacle.
But the visual quality was totally sub-par. Compression artefacts all over the place, even with the "ultra" setting.
And on top of it all, my 4080 was struggling to keep up the framerate in SteamVR, no matter if I selected 72Hz or 90Hz mode. Framedrops and stutters all over the place.
So I packed everything together and started the Amazon return process.
That evening I quietly asked my Quest 2 "you mad at me?" and it said "nah, let's have fun!" and I decided I don't really need another set of VR goggles.
A usbc to 3.5mm cost next to nothing if you really want to connect headphones.
And you did not even try Virtual Desktop? 😮
@@zipppiz No, I did not try VD. Call me old-fashioned, but I am not willing to pay for extra software to mitigate flaws of the manufacturer's.
Also, please read what I wrote about my use case regarding USB usage and wireless.
@@andreasotto1977 VD is the way to go for Quest as well, especially Q3
ACC is a dog in VR regardless. AMS2 and AC are better options for VR sim racing. For the price the Pico 4 sounds like a good buy.
Pretty sure I read they had eye and face tracking?
only in enterprise edition wich sits around 900 euros
i have a 6900xt and with my rift s i hated vr just because i cant see my shifter and other stuff so its a good and bad for me. i got thriple 27 and i love it so much more
Acc and dirt rally look crap in vr, ac, iracing, and AM2 look great!
Why play vr in acc? Its the worst sim for vr, go with ac or iracing
This guy always seems like he's out of breath lol
No thanks, I'm not putting my hard earned dollars into Chinese owned competition.
The pico 4 is hands down the best headset under 1000 for kit. I have lots of experience with vr headsets. I have personally owned the rift, rifts, quest 1, quest 2, psvr1, psvr2, dpvr e4, samsung oydessey, and the hp reverb g2 v1, and hp reverb g2 v2. I now have the pico 4, and a computer with a 4090, and a 13700kf, with 32 gigs of ram. With the pico 4, replacing the face interface is mandatory for people with face shapes like mine, plus the material it is made out of, is not conducive to comfort-ability. I currently have quest 1 & 2, pico 4, psvr1&2, and the rift s.
So for racing. HP reverb g2 v2 or Pico 4?
@@arobyte Pico Neo 3 Link. It's undeniably better. I don't understand why no one mentions the Pico 3 Link.
Hi mate, I've recent got hold of a pico 4 256gb. I only got it for PCVR and some AC Content manager. Will my PC be ok to run? I have a Ryzen 7 5800X3d, 3060 12GB gpu, 32GB Ram and 2 ssds 1 for OS and a faster one for games. Ive got a second router in my room which is a wifi 6 archer router wired to my PC and im on 1gb broadband with virgin.
It will run ok yes, no where near not maxed out but ok, your GPU is a limiting.
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