Almost like BMW wants you to loose an engine. Itâs convenient to check your oil from inside the car but there should be a dipstick as a backup. Considering most BMW owners canât even open the hood, theyâre definitely not checking there oil. They just bring it in every 10k miles. One thing the sensor doesnât tell you if you over fill it. You could be a quart over and it just shows full.
Or put back the 99 cents dipstick back. It's really tech to be tech. A carowner who doesn't wants to get his/her hands dirty, probably wont even bother to top it of.
your channel is the best for ppl had Bimmer, very specialist for every parts. and has very good warning for us as owner. prefect video !! love your work.
Donât forget there is an oil switch, so itâll show up when oil level is way to low due to low pressure even if oil level sensor is bad, but of course system isnât perfect, drain/refill is the best option to test your sensor.
I don't understand the logic of torqueing a bolt, then adding a specific degree of rotation. why not just torque it a little tighter. what is the difference? thanks.
In a nutshell, engineers that devise strategies for fasteners have found that you get more consistent results (i.e., clamping force) by first snugging up the parts to ensure that the parts are in firm contact (the torque specification) then use the fastener thread pitch and material (plasticity) to figure out how much rotation is required (the angle specification) to achieve the target clamping force. Torque specification alone can be dicey because it depends strongly on friction (e.g., whether the parts are wet or dry, how clean the mating surfaces are, etc.).
Like Warren said toque specs can be really unreliable as the threads could be wet with oil and lower the friction required to tighten the bolt. Or there could be rust on the threads and make it even more difficult.
Im not an engineer, but from what ive heard, the bolt is elastic and they want you to intentionally stretch the bolt so that when the engine cools down and parts contract, the part stays sealed. But, they are a single use bolt.
The initial torque spec brings the bolt or stud to the start of its stretch. From there the use of degree takes the bolt or stud into its stretch and then the bolt or stud is constantly trying to relax to is original length. It can't relax and therefore maintains a constant tension on itself making it harder to become loose. The BMW engineers would have factored in thermal cycling amongst other things into the spec.
Super thorough as usual, Bryan đđ» ?: any requirement to prime the engine after draining and replacing the oil or just fire er up when itâs ready to do so?
How much it will cost for changing timing belt in 2014 428xi drive mine has 136,000 miles and i am looking for a good trusted technician in houston but unfortunately i am not able to find anyone.
Changed the sensor on my 2013 n55 435i. I still cant meassure oil level. Its greyed out. I was at flat surfase, warmed up, in park and neutral, E-brake up/down. Any advise please?
Thank God, my 2016 F30 n13 engine has a dipstick. But the thing is, i can not measure oil level by idrive system. The measuring starts as normal and reaches to 15% and shuts down suddenly. The system is not able to comlplete the measurement progress. Do u think is that about oil level sensor or oil pressure valve? Any idea?
Just added over 5 bottles of 1L for last 10k km on my f86⊠still in warranty, the dealership refuse to change the engine, cuz its normal for this big powerful truck, they saidâŠ
My G30 has no oil dipstick, only oil sensor, and my Mercedes W212 has no oil sensor, just has a dipstick. And lastly my Audi S5 has both dipstick and oil sensor. Very interesting
Whilst I love this channel for its sole focus on BMW cars, how to repair, upgrade, mod them and maintain them. I do wish they would stop just focusing on petrol (gasoline for those in the US) cars. Yes the N20/B48 and S55 Engine have no dipstick, this has been the case for many years since I think around 2009. Its pretty much the same in the EU But @Kies Motorsports, I think has never, ever featured a diesel powered BMW? Whilst i know the US has an aversion for diesel, can someone shed any light if BMW sell diesel cars there? Its pretty much still one of the most popular fuels over in the EU. In the UK (where I am from) I would say you are more likely to see a BMW diesel than BMW petrol (gasoline) Currently all BMW diesels have a dipstick. I had one in my 2007 BMW 320d, 2014 330d GT and 2016 435d My BMW 435d X Drive with M Sport trim (for example) has the N57 engine, it does around 40mpg UK (33.3mpg US Gallons), one tank will take me around 480miles from full to empty.
In the US, diesel powered passenger cars are almost non-existent. I think you can blame the horribly smoky, noisy and smelly Mercedes Benz diesels from back in the 70's for putting negative connotations about diesels in the minds of the American car-buying public. Either that or there's some insidious political plot behind it. But Kies doesn't cover diesels mainly cuz there just aren't any here.
I have a 2014 328d that I bought new,Went back 4 yes later to maybe get a newer car but they stopped bringing them over,When I was doing more highway driving it has a 700 mile range,The best mileage I have gotten was 51 mpg.Car has 74k on it.
The thing is right around that time or I think at least 2015 was when BMW let go of the oil dip stick on loads of engine models. Only some Diesel variants still have it, but petrols nearly all lost the dip stick sadly..
The no dipstick and unkeyed crank hub are the biggest blunders of bmw design.
Ahh yes, Scotty Kilmer once gave BMW the âBonehead of the Year Awardâ for removing oil dipsticks đ
Is it the procedure for 340i?
@@the_batmobile0.4 i donât see why not , i say yes
Ouch!! Bring back oil dip stick movement!!
honestly idk how you would do it but if there was a dipstick retrofit out there that went for $500 iâd buy it
Almost like BMW wants you to loose an engine. Itâs convenient to check your oil from inside the car but there should be a dipstick as a backup. Considering most BMW owners canât even open the hood, theyâre definitely not checking there oil. They just bring it in every 10k miles. One thing the sensor doesnât tell you if you over fill it. You could be a quart over and it just shows full.
It does show up if overfilled
They should have put in 2 sensors so they had a crosscheck/redundancy.
That would be the German way!
Or put back the 99 cents dipstick back. It's really tech to be tech. A carowner who doesn't wants to get his/her hands dirty, probably wont even bother to top it of.
your channel is the best for ppl had Bimmer, very specialist for every parts. and has very good warning for us as owner. prefect video !! love your work.
thanks kies for the heads up. i got the alert and added oil . i lost oil through my fill cap gasket.
How do you find that out could you see a visible leak?
@@MrWaheedulHaque yep visible leak .
Sooo glad the 330d F31 still has the dipstick for engine :)
Greatest bmw channel
Thanks for doing this video for the S55 community
What's dummer, no dipstick or having to drill holes in the GD bumper for the license plate frame?
They make a plate holder that screws into where the tow hook goes.
Iâll take the fix it tickets before I put front plates on my BMWđđđ
@@CorbinWilliams Same
Lucky for me in my 2015 328d it has a dipstick!
M4 GT4 has dipstick. It can be retrofited to a regular M4
Donât forget there is an oil switch, so itâll show up when oil level is way to low due to low pressure even if oil level sensor is bad, but of course system isnât perfect, drain/refill is the best option to test your sensor.
I hate it too, my f30 2013 has no dipstick or even a way to add one so reliance on this one sensor is awful
Great video! Do you know if a B46/48 F30 is set up the same way?
I don't understand the logic of torqueing a bolt, then adding a specific degree of rotation. why not just torque it a little tighter. what is the difference? thanks.
In a nutshell, engineers that devise strategies for fasteners have found that you get more consistent results (i.e., clamping force) by first snugging up the parts to ensure that the parts are in firm contact (the torque specification) then use the fastener thread pitch and material (plasticity) to figure out how much rotation is required (the angle specification) to achieve the target clamping force. Torque specification alone can be dicey because it depends strongly on friction (e.g., whether the parts are wet or dry, how clean the mating surfaces are, etc.).
Like Warren said toque specs can be really unreliable as the threads could be wet with oil and lower the friction required to tighten the bolt. Or there could be rust on the threads and make it even more difficult.
Im not an engineer, but from what ive heard, the bolt is elastic and they want you to intentionally stretch the bolt so that when the engine cools down and parts contract, the part stays sealed. But, they are a single use bolt.
The initial torque spec brings the bolt or stud to the start of its stretch. From there the use of degree takes the bolt or stud into its stretch and then the bolt or stud is constantly trying to relax to is original length. It can't relax and therefore maintains a constant tension on itself making it harder to become loose. The BMW engineers would have factored in thermal cycling amongst other things into the spec.
Please make a video on a N55 valve cover gasket replacement!! I've been at it for way too long
covered by emmission warrant for 8 years and 80k miles. ALL FREE aT dealership. Mine was done last week. FYI
This and not having dipsticks on transmissions is about the perplexing things as a DIYer.
Loved the channel!!! You should also cover BMW burning oil. -- BMW 435i Msport
thanks for the info.
Thatâs been happening to my e90, goes and come back randomly. I added a quart now kinda scared thereâs too much oil. Have to check soon.
What brand did you go with the sensor ? Is there a link ??
Does this sensor read temperature as well? I have been told that it does temperature as well as level??
Thank you much
Great video as always! Thought you have shaved your hair! LOL
All this aftermarket support, still no one make a dipstick for these engines
Hey Brian, i got mine replace on my f30 and still no resolve, im gettin a bad oil temp sensor. Can you make a vid of replacing that on the n55. Thanks
Super thorough as usual, Bryan đđ»
?: any requirement to prime the engine after draining and replacing the oil or just fire er up when itâs ready to do so?
Iâm not upset with the dipstick, I think the Idrive design is cool.
No where on the interwebs or dealrships can confirm how low of oil does it take for level indicator to show not full.
thanks mate for making me decide to keep my mk6 gti instead of swap it for a new BMW
Learn something new everyday!! đ
informative as usual.
How much it will cost for changing timing belt in 2014 428xi drive mine has 136,000 miles and i am looking for a good trusted technician in houston but unfortunately i am not able to find anyone.
Changed the sensor on my 2013 n55 435i. I still cant meassure oil level. Its greyed out. I was at flat surfase, warmed up, in park and neutral, E-brake up/down. Any advise please?
And also you can check from inside the car on flat surface
I don't suppose a bad sensor would throw any codes?
Thank God, my 2016 F30 n13 engine has a dipstick. But the thing is, i can not measure oil level by idrive system. The measuring starts as normal and reaches to 15% and shuts down suddenly. The system is not able to comlplete the measurement progress. Do u think is that about oil level sensor or oil pressure valve? Any idea?
Is there a CEL thrown when the sensor fails?
Kies I'm getting this error on my 2013 328i "Engine Oil Pressure: Stop carefully" what do you think? thanks
Your sensor went already ?!
Hello Brian , thought we should use 5w30 or 0w30 , like i use in my bmw m4
That oil recommendations are for emissions purposes mostly. 5w40 it's a good choice or even 5w50 if you are tracking the car.
5W40? Are you in an odd climate?
BMW: âletâs make a typically really fast procedure extremely tediousâ
Think of it this way. If you have too much oil it's like a person having high blood pressure.
Just added over 5 bottles of 1L for last 10k km on my f86⊠still in warranty, the dealership refuse to change the engine, cuz its normal for this big powerful truck, they saidâŠ
Yup, my f30 n26 spun a bearing bc of this.
what is the torque wrench brand?
My G30 has no oil dipstick, only oil sensor, and my Mercedes W212 has no oil sensor, just has a dipstick. And lastly my Audi S5 has both dipstick and oil sensor. Very interesting
Not compatible with F82(M4)?
Oil pan dipstick > oil level sensor
My 2018 f30 has both an electronic and physical dip stick đŹ n47 diesel. Not sure why both lol.
Same, my 2014 F10 N47T 520d has a physical dip stick too. No electric one though, but I donât mind.
Whilst I love this channel for its sole focus on BMW cars, how to repair, upgrade, mod them and maintain them.
I do wish they would stop just focusing on petrol (gasoline for those in the US) cars.
Yes the N20/B48 and S55 Engine have no dipstick, this has been the case for many years since I think around 2009. Its pretty much the same in the EU
But @Kies Motorsports, I think has never, ever featured a diesel powered BMW? Whilst i know the US has an aversion for diesel, can someone shed any light if BMW sell diesel cars there? Its pretty much still one of the most popular fuels over in the EU.
In the UK (where I am from) I would say you are more likely to see a BMW diesel than BMW petrol (gasoline)
Currently all BMW diesels have a dipstick.
I had one in my 2007 BMW 320d, 2014 330d GT and 2016 435d
My BMW 435d X Drive with M Sport trim (for example) has the N57 engine, it does around 40mpg UK (33.3mpg US Gallons), one tank will take me around 480miles from full to empty.
In the US, diesel powered passenger cars are almost non-existent. I think you can blame the horribly smoky, noisy and smelly Mercedes Benz diesels from back in the 70's for putting negative connotations about diesels in the minds of the American car-buying public. Either that or there's some insidious political plot behind it. But Kies doesn't cover diesels mainly cuz there just aren't any here.
I have a 2014 328d that I bought new,Went back 4 yes later to maybe get a newer car but they stopped bringing them over,When I was doing more highway driving it has a 700 mile range,The best mileage I have gotten was 51 mpg.Car has 74k on it.
BMW endless money pit - Scotty Kilmer đ€Ł
7:46 are you serious with torque of â24.9â Nm?! đł
Isnât ist 24.735 ?
Is the B58 just as easy as the s55?
They are entirely different engines so they might not be comparable
Yes. I am currently rebuilding my B58 and the sensor is probably even the same thing or at least same design.
đ§đ·đ§đ·đ§đ·đ§đ·đđ», Awesome video, thanks for sharing it!
Ahh replace a simple reliable dipstick with a sensor. B holes that cant use a dipstick wont fill or check oil levels. Lol
Weird, my 2013 BMW F20 114i had a dipstick. I guess it's because it had a PSA engine.
The thing is right around that time or I think at least 2015 was when BMW let go of the oil dip stick on loads of engine models. Only some Diesel variants still have it, but petrols nearly all lost the dip stick sadly..
We need a KIES Motorsport location in Dubai
Another great vid by Bryan and another stupid move by BMW. They just continue to over complicate simple engineering.
That is the most stupid design!
Damn first comment and first like đđ
Dumb ass system for sure.