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- Does seeing the Elementor update notification fill you with dread? You're not alone! Follow this simple guide to reduce the stress of all your future updates.
Elementor has a track record of releasing updates that either cause issues or don't play well with 3rd party WordPress plugins and updates can take time to be released.
Using a WordPress staging site can help reduce the stress and allow you to easily and safely test the updates BEFORE pushing them out to your live website.
Creating a WordPress staging site shouldn't be hard and in this guide, I'll show you how to use the free WPVivid Backup plugin to create your own staging environment in minutes.
If you want an even easier method of pushing the fully tested updates to your live site, then I'll also show you 2 reasons why the WPVivid Backup Pro is worth considering.
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Your video literally saved me hours and hours (and hours and hours!) of work and frustration. Plus, I can now make branding and interface and theme changes to test and then deploy them to "live" with a button click. I went ahead and bought the pro version on the strength of your video. Thank you!
Really informative Mr.Paul. Thank you for your great guidance which is helping me a lot in my profession as a wordpress web developer.
Found this video so helpful. Saved me so much time and stress. Thank you so much.
This is outstanding, thank you! The pro version is also very reasonably priced!
This was really helpful and easy to do
Thanks Paul
Thanks for the video. My hosting provider got back to me and said "Since you have quite a small hosting account however, you may find there is not enough room for a full copy of your website." So hosting account does matter.
And is just me but sometimes when an update goes bad I return site to a previous back up, wait 2 weeks and try again and it works.
This is great man... Thank you so much!!
Great video Paul, thanks!
Great tutorial! Worth mentioning that some hosts have this built in too!
You can indeed matey. But, it's always good to have full control over these things and not rely on your hosting company. ;)
This is brilliant! Thank you
Excellent video, thank you.
Great Video, really appreciate your effort. Please keep going
Thank you, Paul. A relevant tut, 👏as usual
With the amount of posts regarding failed updates, issues and stress updating Elementor, I thought this would be useful for those not too sure how to go about it or how easy it is to get things set up and working. :)
@@WPTuts Great idea, indeed! The easiest way to deal with staging sites as far as I'm concerned 😀
Great Video, thanks a lot! I have one question: I'd like to use the subdomain feature of the pro version. Will this interfere with licenses that might only work on the live site as it's a different domain? My main concerns are wpml and elementor.
Love how every time I start playing your video I get an ad for Wix first. I guess I should go ahead and pay for CZcams.. Thanks for another great video, been using WPVivid ever since you introduced it to me. Is a very impressive tool that now I can't be without. I was getting ready to create a staging site for a client update. Great timing for this video.
Do you use the Image Cleaner function, if you do would you consider a video about it. Thanks!!
All I seem to get are hair dye and Elementor ads.. lol
No, I haven't used the image cleaner options yet. I'll have to take a look over it and see how it works. ;)
@@WPTuts Would be great. I have used it on a smaller site, and it does have to be used with caution, things like logos tend to disappear, but they do make it easy to recall the missing images as long as you keep them in the folder WPVivid creates. But I have a site that has backups of over 2TB, would love to clean it up but seems like a tedious job looking for any missing images after running the tool. Maybe another good video would just be about all the images that WordPress creates that you don't need. I would call that unnecessary bloat. This took certainly shows you that.
you are a life saver
As always a very well explained helpful episode 👏 Thank you!
Very good work!
Hey Paul, thanks for bringing this one up to my mind again.... Just had some trouble with the Elementor vulnerability patch. I updated a couple of dozen sites and had quite a few issues. Have you had any experience in using wpvivid staging on a multisite? As always very appreciated content. Thanks!
Hey Marcel, sorry to hear about your troubles. Hopefully, they are now sorted.
I’ve not tried on a multi site tbh, but I may well set up a test environment to see if/how well it works.
@@WPTuts Hey Paul, thanks for your reply. Would be awsome to see it work out well in an multisite environment. 👌
Great Tutorial!. I need to solve something with this plugin. I want to use it to redesing a site. So creating a staging site I can make every change. But my question is, imagine its a woocommerce or blog site, where i have new content every days in the live site, posts, order, etc. How can i update only the redesing when I finish, without losing all the new content? Thanks!!
Great tutorial as usual! Thanks so much!
I do have one question, though. Let's suppose my live site is an e-commerce, with all its data (carts, orders, wishlists etc), which will keep running while I work on the staging version.
My question is: when I roll the changes from the staging to the live site, will my live database have a differential update (applying only new or different data) or will it be completely replaced with the staging data? The latter implies that orders on the live site will be "vanished", if they were placed after the staging site was created.
Thanks in advance! Keep up with the outstanding content you produce!
I'm curious about that either. Does anyone have an answer for that?
It currently completely replaces the site when pushed from the staging site. However, they are currently running an open beta for a new product that only pushes the data changes between staging and live.
I haven't tested it yet, but if that works as intended it should make transitioning between the 2 a lot easier with no data overwriting.
Hello there, will this work if I want to install Elementor for the first time to re-design a website? This is to make sure that I don't mess up the content/webpage while trying to re design it correct? Thank you!
Would be great to know how to handle a multisite
Hello Paul!
I know Duplicator Pro doesn't have a staging option (at least it doesn't yet), but if you had to choose between Duplicator Pro and WP Vivid, which one would you choose?
I have this question thinking about how easy it is to migrate a site, automate a backup, restore a backup, anyway....
What would you consider to make this choice?
Thanks a lot for the content!
wp vivid all the way. I have both and never used duplicator again. Vivid pro so much better.
@@dannygrio Tks Danny!
The cool thing about Duplicator (vs All In One or WP Vivid) is its ability to duplicate a site to a BLANK target. :)
Once I've done that - I tend to use WP Vivid thereafter. (Has anyone else noted that All In One doesn't always complete in PHP 8.x? - WP Vivid's become my go to replication tool now).
But as said at top - Duplicator has that one cool feature - no WordPress plus plugin req'd at target.
How do you handle woocommerce? Can/should that be deactivated first, the update performed (if all is good) and then reactivated? Please advise...
Hi WPTuts, I really like WPvivid plugin and already have a pro version. Works perfectly.
Could you please make a tutorial using the Bricksbuilder, as it's changed compared to your last video(Version 1.4 beta).
Thanks
I'm waiting for the official release of 1.4 before I dig in and do a new tutorial. But, it will be coming as soon as the final version is released. :)
@@WPTuts oooh a super listing site with custom front end dashboard for members? I can dream. Lol
I added this plugin, but it did not show up on my Wordpress dashboard side menu.
Installed the free plugin created a staging site but get "Sorry, you are not allowed to access this page." when trying to access an admin page, front facing website is fine just cant access admin pages.
Thanks Paul, great video. I do have a question. I made a staging copy of an existing website using WPVivid Backup Pro and am now completely redesigning everything (including resizing/compressing images). I really want to completely erase the original version when I migrate the staging copy back to the live site. If I press the "Copy Staging Site to Live" will that effectively erase all of the original content? Thanks again.
Excellent question...I hope someone will answer.
hope to see answer too
I also need an answer to that question.
Can I test the latest version of WordPress, or is it only for testing plugins
I followed your instructions. After it created the staging site, I clicked on it. I opened a new tab and logged in. After logging in, it did NOT show an orange bar at the top. I am concerned that it did not work and that I will be updating my live site and not the staging site. Any suggestions?
I want to ask how should I go back to my live original site while i am on staging site please help me out
WPVivid is a great tool for backups, and the staging options..
But, my preference goes to WP staging pro because of a better integration with MainWP
I have contacted both other company’s for an feature request
But there is no intent to make a better integration for wpvivid staging with MainWP…
Great video Paul. Thank you. But...judging by the problems noted in the comments and some of my own experiences, it's obvious that nothing is as easy as we would like it to be. Still seems nerve-wracking when playing with a staging site. I don't know if it's the fault of WordPress or what, but it's ridiculous that some of this stuff is still so weird after all these years.
Bro i already pressed update and now i cant activate elemntor pro what to do ?
Hi Paul, what would happen if whilst using the staging site, a few users sign up to the website. How would one retain these new customers but also copy the staging site to the live site?
this staging site is a second version. customer will not visit this version.
Wouldn’t it be great if they added an automated go live step. After creating a staging and testing at leisure, once ready to push changes to live. Put live into maint. Refresh staging. Quick final test. Push staging to live. Reopen.
So does this get around the usual issue with plug-in licenses on staging?
If you're using the Pro version of WPVivid, you can easily use a sub domain for the staging site and then follow the guidelines here for your Elementor Pro license - elementor.com/blog/elementor-expands-license-to-include-staging-sites/
@@WPTuts sadly not all plugins allow that. Some have different accepted names for staging and some even demand a new license for staging. I don’t think you can please all the plugins all the time.
Hi .. Already I'm having updraft plus backup plugin... Should i install wpvivid plugin also...????
No, they pretty much do the same thing.
Staging causes license conflicts to a lot of plugins. For example, my elementor pro license was deactivated and i couldn't activate it again no matter what.. I removed the staging site and i had to contact elementor support to resolve it. A similar thing happened with another plugin.
With Elementor Pro you need to have your staging site installed on a sub domain like dev.mywebsite.com and that will allow you to use it without license issues.
As for other plugins, you'd need to look into how they handle staging sites.
@@WPTuts Thanks for the reply, i had my staging site on subdomain... Maybe i did something wrong i don't know.
@@basicelement they limit the available options when it comes to what subdomains are supported.
Maybe it’s worth double checking to ensure you were using one of their approved options.
@@WPTuts I think you should give tips on how to avoid conflicts in your video. Honestly, it was very annoying when happened to me.
Does the plugin automatically no-index the entire staging site so there are no issues with duplicate content? Otherwise, this is a significant issue for any site using SEO for marketing.
It automatically sets the "Discourage search engines from indexing this site" option to enabled on the staging site.
@@WPTuts great, thank you! It seems like an easier way to do staging sites. I saw that you mentioned that you need to put the staging site on a subdomain to use certain licences like Elementor, which is not a problem. I would also want to use a separate database for it anyway. But it's interesting.
Great video but unfortunately does not cover the Elementor Pro License problem, when it comes to staging sites…
Question: The WP ViVid Pro will solve this problem?
If you're using the Pro version of WPVivid, you can easily use a sub domain for the staging site and then follow the guidelines here for your Elementor Pro license - elementor.com/blog/elementor-expands-license-to-include-staging-sites/
@@WPTuts Thanks Paul, this is exactly what I needed 🙌🏻
@@gsboss81fr no worries, glad this helped. :)
What about SEO if you leave the staging site ?
The plug-in automatically sets the site to discourage search engines.
I always wonder, will this slow the main website as it duplicates the website inside public.htm folder?
If you leave it there it will have an impact as your database size has doubled.
If you’re just doing it for testing purposes and then removing it, it shouldn’t be an issue.
@@WPTuts thanks,. I normally use a subdomain, but would be easier with staging, my concern is what you replied and if you can trust the delete staging website. What I am trying to say, is that will it really delete everything it created or will it leave tables behind. I have a website that I constantly am updating and cleaning database. Staging would be great, but the only thing stopping me is I don't want to create duplicate content inside the database or plublic.htm folder. Would be great seeing you talk about this and database cleaning. I use Advanced Database Cleaner Pro, but I also clean manually. Helps a lot with site speed and even it solved some issues I had with cache and elementor. That's what I always do, delete plugin, clean options from database, backup and transfer to live website. People would be amazed to know how much bloat developers leave behind!
@@dannygrio if you're concerned about the database size and/or data being left behind, you can use the option to use a unique DB table and not your live sites database. This would allow you to check to ensure no data is left behind and if it is, you can simply do an SQL dump of all tables to have a clean DB ready.
@@WPTuts thanks a lot! please do a video regarding database . :)
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The pro versions. Does it copy the whole website of just updates the updated files in the directories?
What about elementor pro?
What about it? This video is intended for all versions of self hosted Elementor (free & pro).
Elementor is not recommended for shared web hosting. One week of work goes to waste.
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What does that have to do with a staging site?