Project Worlds Fastest FWD Tamiya RC Car - Pt2
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- Finally after many months, part 2 of the Worlds Fastest FWD Tamiya RC Car is here. I'm using the Tamiya FF03 for this project. In this video we go fast and smash my current PB.
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Phil you are the most productive youtuber amongst the ones that I follow. I love to see you several times a week. :)
Thanks dude. I try to keep the tempo going, and mix up the content so there’s always something for everyone 😎👌
@@TomleyRC maybe dabble in some aircraft (small ones.i know you've probably had enough of the 1:1 ones)
I really appreciate the frequency that you turn out videos. The content is great.
Better than 77" of snow, Phil. Chin up. Time to get into indoor track racing.
We’ve not had a decent amount of Snow for a few years! I miss it 🙃
Stainless steel screw kits are the most underrated upgrade that should be done first
finally a mess of a working place and shrinking shrinktube with a lighter. i'm so glad to see someone who didn't forget how to garage build a toy and have fun with it and not caring about how the studio looks and how much $ to spend for a professional shrinktube shrinking tool
That Drill tip is genius.
So much drag on a wet surface. Look forward to a dry run!
very nice Kupra TC body
Thanks for the inspiration. I recently finished a TC01. I made it a bit too spicy for my ability. I drive it till I break it, fix it and do it again. I might have half an hour on it by now. If I keep watching you I may get it sorted one day.
I love the eg body on your first one. You should cut some holes or remove some of the rear bumper of the new body. With the wheel arches in the rear covered, your ass end is gonna be like a parachute with the air that comes in from the front wheel arches
Can't wait to see how you did at Rossa with this one! Recently got my M-05 project to 66mph on 2s. Hoping to get it past 70mph with some new gears.
Keep up the great work! I'll be ready to chase you soon with my FF-03 as well. Cheers!
Very impressive speed for that little car, FWD is very unique and more stable than I thought it was going be
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😂😂😂😂😂😂
When you leave the military it all goes to pot. First the beard appears then the beer belly appears. 😂
I don't drink beer.... but it seems my belly hasn't realised that haha
Hi Phil that was a brilliant effort sir. Car looked and preferred perfect. Definitely spinning the wheels during the runs(wet) have a great week sir 🇬🇧✌🏼
I hear theres a drier spell coming soon. Don't bank it for the winter just yet. This variety and style of content is awesome.
Yes, dry today... but I hadn't prepared, typical!
@@TomleyRC I reckon there’s a couple of weeks that you might get the odd day. Obviously being prepared to grab it would be helpful.
@@chrislang7460 I only have next weekend and then I have no more access to this place 🥲
@@TomleyRC well 1 that’s a shame. But 2 make sure you’re ready to take full advantage for your last weekend.
Always surprises me these things can take that much power!
I built a FWS golf Mk I out of a WLT Toys. Spent $35 on a 144001 and then spent several times that making it slower.
But hey, I have something that reminds me of my youth, and isn't like anything else!
Lol that's how my living room table looks right now I'm watching this while I'm rebuilding my scx belly dragger comp. Rig foe next Sunday. I always on messy work areas ate people that actually know what they are doin. At least that's me if I try to organize I end up losing more parts that way lol
Nice FWD speed run
Cheers dude
Loving ya little clumps of hair Tomley.Front wheel drive is always messy.I can't work unless there is mess.✌️
Great stuff! Very well done. Speed cars have never really interested me, but the slightly unusual "FWD Tamiya" speed cars are much more appealing! Might have to try this.
I do the same thing with my turnbuckles. Some nice passes. Looking forward to seeing this again in the new year👍
I’m looking forward to gearing up and going faster 🙃
I’ve raced a FF03 for quite a bit. The standard ball diff slips like a worn clutch. The TRF hardened gears and TRF201 diff parts do better. But you will need either the gear diff or the YR racing spool.
In the past I have also melted the idler gear when racing (standard gear set) with a 17.5 brushed motor.
Also in the past after seeing your FF01 video I set about trying to beat that and managed 58 mph with a otherwise standard FF01. But the top gearbox cover would lift after a few runs (30T pinion and 66T spur with 5T motor both on 2S and 3S) surprisingly the ball diff didn’t slip on that car unlike the original FF03 item.
A couple of things I learnt while doing the project was to glue the sidewalls on the foams to try and prevent them chunking when the car got loose. Cut the rear bumper out to get any trapped air out and it stopped it being a kite. A rear spoiler definitely helped keeping it stable. And the ability to have a handset to slowly bring the throttle in. This helped a lot with the TT01E project as it stopped wheel spin etc.
With the FF03 chassis you can add shims under the wishbone mounts to have anti squat/dive etc and this may help you with traction. Harder rear springs is what I’ve used in the past with my FWD Xray at BRCA National races for more steering
Look at swapping the spur gear to another type as for instance a 64DP 78t spur and 58T pinion is 3.5~1. Well better than the gears you can get with the Tamiya 0.6 and even the option 0.4. As I’ve run the latter with the option 0.4 spur gear and one from a TA04 and had to run between a 49~51T pinion when racing in 17.5 brushed class.
More aero would be a good winter project.
Never seen or considered a fwd RC car. But now I would get one after seeing this this. Thank you. Very informative as always.
Super cool body. Looks like a Seat Leon body.
Yes it does doesn't it
Your work bench looks like mine. I think it's a sign of a creative mind. That's my story and I am sticking to it. I like the paint job and the car ran really well in those conditions. Keep up the good work.
It's a civic super charged nice one Tom
I never thought I would really really want a fwd rc car, but that thing is awesome.
I like seeing projects done by folks like yourself Phil. Gives me that little motivation kick to look at the 2 projects I have, both wltoys. A k989, and a 12427, or what ever the green and black across desert racer is. Got metal upgrades for both. After that, electrical work.
Yes. Winning
That what Ireland looked like the entire 2 weeks I was there! I loved it! I love the fog!
Top content...I remember I had a ff-02 on a Alfa 156 shell old school ESC I had racing bearings in with the sports tamiya brushed motor and 1400sp tamiya battery I was happy as pie that doing 20-25mph haha 😆😆😆
That was fast back in the day! 😅
Great to see you back on this build! I recently picked up a second FF03 for speed running as well. My drag car is quite a different custom setup and not quite built for super speeds. The fastest I've gotten it is 45mph(in 132ft).
We've been enjoying your vids for a couple years now. The builds are still my favorite! Can't wait to see how this turns out!
Cheers!
That bodyshell is mint. Great content as always
that car looks so dam smooth and nice to drive, it aint overkill, its perfect
Years ago when I lived in Coventry I put a 12*4 motor in my Yokomo YRF2 for kicks and it outran everything else!
I can imagine!
Nice! Now you have me rethinking what to do with my Tamiya f104 pro2 hmmm.......
Sorry, I'm late, been on vacation in Argentina. That thing is so cool! I want to build one. I love the paint job. Your content is really polished and very enjoyable to watch. Now I must binge and catch up on your videos.
I separate everything into bowls to stay a bit organized and keep things from rolling off the table.
Yeah, I’m. It that guy haha… probably should be though 😅
@@TomleyRC if not for the bowls I'd be just like you. 🤣 I always used to be all over the place. I just got tired of looking for things.
@@DirtyPlumbus yes, i spend a lot of time searching the floor haha
This is really out there building, love it!
I really appreciate you doing the Harley Designs and Scale Builders Guild- Monthly Mayhem. It introduced me to your channel. And it's become among my top favorite RC channels on YT. 🤘
Awesome! It was such a fun challenge. Hoping to get involved with some more in the future.
lovely
I got so excited when I saw a fn2 type r. Never seen a lot of modeling for those cars would love to see it used on something
Love the car, you inspired me to buy a FF03 and a F104, making the FF03 into a speed run car and the F104 into a racer. Thing looks like it’s on rails. Looks like tons of fun
Nice! The FF03 is such a well made chassis
Fantastic work, Phil! Beautiful build!!! 😃
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
The new chassis was a sick idea🤩
You actually DO want rear weight and rear downforce for stability. If all your weight is at the front, you have a low polar moment of inertia about the front axle and it makes it extremely easy for the back end to change directions and whip about. It's like holding a hammer by the heavy side and swinging the handle vs holding it by the end of the handle and trying to swing the heavy side. As for the downforce part, rear downforce adds rear grip by loading the tires more, and they will resist that swinging regardless of weight distribution, but that will only come into affect at higher speeds over 30-50 MPH
Another thing to be concerned with is the center of pressure. It's very difficult to get the center of pressure more than halfway back of most cars. If your center of pressure is in front of your center of mass, then the car with become aerodynamically unstable whenever the effective direction of the wind goes any amount perpendicular to the car's direction of travel. Back to the hammer analogy, it would be like pushing sideways on the handle end of the hammer (if the handle represents the front of the car). Very easy to make it spin around and point the wrong way. Whereas, if you point use the heavy end to represent the front, and then push anywhere on the handle, it'll make the heavy end point more forward.
THIS is why you see vertical fins on some race cars. They have a very rearward weight distribution (more than 55% rear), but their center of pressure is forward due to needing more front downforce to aid front grip and get the car rotated at high speeds. So once the car is perpendicular, the center of pressure would normally cause it to massively oversteer, but with the vertical fin, that rapidly moves the lateral center of pressure to the rear, creating more stability.
Long story short, except for edge cases (like drag racing, or the Nissan Deltawing) anything in the 60/40 to 40/60 range of weight distribution is effective for typical car design. I recommend you set up this car for a 60% front/40% rear weight distribution, and add a semi-significant rear wing (like a buggy wing), with a couple of small front canards/dive plates, that way you have aerodynamic stability and downforce for high speeds, as well as normal stability via the weight distribution for lower speeds. That alone should make this FWD speed car stable enough, but you should also look into the steering ratio as I suggested in the last video, as well as the alignment for even more stability gains.
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Glad your doing another fwd tamiya! Can remember you doing it years ago? Pretty sure m03 mini
Yes, used to do loads of Tamiya stuff 👌
That is totally my working style. The bigger the mess the better 💯
Cheers mate and congrats, i dont know why but with rear wheels covered like that It reminded me to total recall cars on mars 🤣🤣🤣😅 also Is the shell a cupra-seat león? Its sad for us viewers when the winter comes cause the RC content drops a lot, any way I really hope to see this one with that 7000+kv motor in and a dry floor, and see what she can do, cheers take care mate ✌️
It's a cool project, looking forward to follow it again next year! If you're following Poor Boys RC, he had a CW-01 speed challenge this October, I believe he'll do it again next year, I think 58 mph is the speed to beat now, will probably be higher next summer...
Thats a mad speed for a CW-01!
Wow this is awesome
I love front wheel drive
I love a good speed run. Cheers
Me too 😁
Apart from some cheap crappy cars my kids had, I've never used a fwd RC car before. I might have to treat myself, and have a go.
That car looks great with your colours on it. 👍🏻
Wow, awesome stuff! I love my FWD RC cars, I race them indoors on carpet, not as fast as this obviously🤣
What a gorgeous looking car, does it ever go like the wind. Awesome video thank you for sharing.
Great review Phil,as always & yup, my desk is as bad, clutter every where
The only problem I have with this project is that the very few FF03 unsold kits that are scared around will disappear now... Which I really am sad to see, as I just finished my first FF03 since my first FF01 in the 90s, and the FF03 out of the box is an absolute blast to drive!! So sad that it will probably be my last...
But if this brings Tamiya awareness of making more kits again... Then, that would be awesome! Do ask for it in your next vid, Phil! I'm sure they're listening...!🙏🏻☺️
My god that is fast
Great job mate!...
Awesome work mate!
have you ever considered doing a losi mini-t 2.0 (brushless) speedrunn? I think this would be quite a challenge, because these 2wd Cars tend to do a wheely all the time lol.
You would find more grip with on road tyres like you would use on your car as the tyres should disperse the water on the damp surface and use the others for dry surface
Yes, hard to find decent ones. Even the belted ones balloon a bit and catch the body
Very cool build! I would have lost a considerable amount of parts if I would have left bits scattered around lulz! #stayepic
Just a thought if you run the copperhead esc its runs 4s and the 4000kv castle motor is just shy of 100k rpm
Nice build buddy 😁👍 shame the castle didn't fit, still produced a good speed 😊 I'm not building a runway 🤣🙋♂️
awesome
😎🤘
Needs a buggy rear wing mounted to the bonnet for lols and front grip.
You should try a TP Power motor for speed runs.
Yes, been waiting for this
I love you content keep up the good work
Thanks dude 🔥
Great work. Machine stainless steel screws are better also might be worth trying some toe out
That was a fun vid. Car turned out well, it'll be good to see it go in better weather. Raining in Engerland, who knew!!
Yes.. rain... what's that! Funnily enough it's a nice Sunny day today...and I haven't got anything ready!
@@TomleyRC 🤣🤣🤣
Great vid Phil love the sound nice.. shame it was wet.. 👍🤩🚴🏅great speed dude looked quick to
Hey Phil,
The fwd car looks like madness. A fwd rc car sounds so fun but so cool. Definitely want to buy a fwd rc car just to see how it would handle. Like always great videos.
3:40 I can't believe after all this time they're still using those cheap plastic ball ends. When I had my rough rider back in the early 80's by the time you got the alignment right they were worn out and popped off easier than a 13 yr old at a nudist beach.
(now I noticed that they are actual turnbuckles instead of a straight screw thread which helps but......)
Well phil never seen shocks mounted like that lol
YES IT'S BACK FWD!!!!! I've been waiting 😈
Epic video's as always ! Happy to sub!
You will need a spoiler for more Speed. If not your rear end won't be stable! I took a 4wd Body with a very small spoiler. This runs very stable
Pretty dang cool 😎
Nope, I am just like you, chit everywhere oh and, TAMIYA!| all hail Tamiya, fathers of RC.
8:04 I thought that was what classified as "sunny" in the UK? heheheheh
Very cool 👍🏻 😮
Looks awesome but bring back the civic bro
I may get a New Civic body for the Summer 👌
Looks like a great car to me. How about changing those nasty Philipsscrews with a hex-package? Your 45mh on 2s run would be more than enough for me personally. These cars look great for street-circuits.
Yes could do, although no performance advantage
A small spoiler will reduce drag I think. Not 100% sure I think it would depend on dimensions.
Nicely done, congrats on the PB, you have beat my PB on my old FTX vantage i got just shy of 62MPH
62mph is decent for a Vantage 👌
I ended up with a EZ-run in my M06 (LRP), only thing I could get to fit.
To be completely fair, all speed records have to be set in the same conditions, so if anyone else wants to beat your record for now, they have to run the car on a wet road as well.
Enough waffling. To the moon! 😂
🤘y'all have a badass day 🤘🍻🤘
you too
If you cut open the back end of the shell it should stop the air getting trapped it the shell
remember that the turn buckles have left and right handed threads
Muy buenos dias Amigo saludos
That is exactly how my workbench looks like when i'm working on something. And how it looks right now with a completely disassembled TRX-4 on it. I am waiting for parts for more than a month now... I wonder if i will stil get them...
Which TRX4? Defender?
@@Hiergibtesnixzusehen No, the G500. Does not make a real big difference. Only the bumpers, mudguards and wheels and obviously the body I believe.
@@JT-wf8cc Yeah, it’s almost the same. Almost 😊
epic!
have you ever run a fwd rc street car on an actual road course like they run touring vars on?