You can try to pursue your career but remember - People will throw you down the street the moment you stop producing value but your children may not if you cared about them.
"Extra money does not help you." Not only that, but women who make a lot of money aren't any better off in terms of mating value than their poorer counterparts, whereas it's the inverse for men. It actually shrinks a woman's dating pool to be financially well-off because the only men they'll be interested in make just as much as they do, or ideally more thanks to hypergamy.
@@saltycat662 Perhaps I'm being optimistic here but miserable marriage can be fixed if both parties will work for it but the standards of highly successful women can never be changed.
@@Razear they wish to find a man who is financially and socially matched so she doesn’t become financially abused. Golddiggers aren’t exclusively women, are they? Daughters of richer men have been targeted by leeches and higher social status wannabes for centuries. Now more average status women have better access to money in their own name than they ever have, it’s ripe for the taking. Being dominated and robbed by a lesser man isn’t what any little girl dreams of.
The problem most women have is that they have had poor childhood experiences with men which results in them being very uncomfortable with making themselves dependent on a man. The reason that the model of the man going out to earn the brunt of the resources and women staying at home to look after the runnong of the house and child is because children need an insane amount of care and attention in prder to develop to their full potential. Women, in most cases, have to sacrifice their financial independence in order to make this work and most would rather not due to their mistrust of men. Those who find a good guy, who can provide, and who looks after them well will tell you that having children feels like the most natural thing that they are built for and wouldn't have it any other way.
Exactly. The SAHM experience is a vastly different experience for every woman and therefore every child. Dependent upon the temperament of the husband/father (appreciative, caring and fair, not domineering, neglectful and tyrannical) and the relationship between them both. The differences in mothering capabilities of the cherished wife vs the cheated on, neglected girlfriend, in fear of abandonment will be stark. Also including the temperament of the woman (maternal instinct, health wise, etc) and the temperament of the child/ren (colicky baby, developmental issues, multiple births, etc) That’s before including anything regarding their social class or income, housing arrangements or available resources.
there is an answer to how to have a career and a family. the kids don't need you attention all the time you have kids younger once you kids grow up then start your career. just read that's how you advance in anything.
Oh this is Ryerson! I always think I have seen every single video of Dr. Peterson’s but I have not yet seen this one in its entirety. So much has changed since then, but he hasn’t. He’s the same old sixpence.
I don't think viewers fully get the magnitudeof his words. He saw the backstage of these types of people for years. His analysis of the pros and cons of women in the workforce and the implications on the fabric of society is brilliant. He can fact-check any foggy ideology around. I don't think we can find a more realistic and cultured person than him.
At 61, I still work 60 hours per week, stayed in a professional career most of my life. Currently 1/3 of my children think I abandoned them during their childhood. My spouse will not work and leaves all financial responsibilities to me.
I can’t even begin to imagine the bullet I dodged by not carrying my first baby to full term (miscarriage) .... (I was in a feminist mindset) I wish I had, had that baby, but I'm so glad I didn't have that baby, with the man that fathered that baby Now, I’m married to a great man and I just want a baby 😢
I'm mental picked poorly for partner, at least I went to school and a loving father gave us the house I live in. I have good adult children I shuttered to think if I had to stay in a horrible marriage idk
it's wonderful to hear something explained so clear so people exually get it straight away. I love to think everyone in that classroom became inspired to be like the man that just woke them up.
But you cannot mend this condition with law, it can only be mended by mere practicality and necessity. The present condition cannot sustain itself. Nature (or the grace of God) will reset the human condition and change our course.
Most divorces are initiated by women. And women are highly favoured within the court system anyway. Bill Gates' ex-wife became the richest woman on earth by divorcing him.
Wow! That's a very cynical view on family. I grew up surrounded by successful families be it within mine or friends and extended family. I'm sorry you did not, but cynicism won't help you overcome what you endured. God Bless.
@@FrikaWies it seems my comment was removed? Nothing I said was controversial. Women initiate most divorces. That's backed by facts. Women are highly favoured in court. That's backed by facts. And I mentioned Gates' ex-wife. Also, a fact.
I would much rather be at uni or doing interesting at work than sitting at home cleaning, cooking, gossipping (drinking?), or worse, having kids. Not all of us like or want kids. I love my job ❤. I cannot think of anything worse than being a housewife or a raising kids. And yes, i am a devout christian.
Then good for you. However, this is the same song of many women and when they reached a certain age, the same song turns into a different tune altogether.
@@silenthero2795 only benefit to having kids is that they look after you when ur old IF they want to be decent ppl, we know heaps Chuck their parents into nursing homes and so it's really the pot of the luck.
@@changecomesfromwithin7377 Well, if that's how you only view kids then more power to you. Then again, its still the same even if you don't have kids. You'll still end up somewhere out there when you get old. You don't need kids to chuck you off somewhere. Companies do that all the time and, dare I say, much worse of.
What makes Dr. Peterson think that having a career brings "freedom?" Women who choose career over having children are usually doing it for more personal reasons than just "I want a career."
Many people say that. I don't want kids because I don't want to be tied down. I heard that more than anything else. My son's girlfriend says that. Hollywood sells that and new generations are buying it. Is it always the case? Of course not. I heard everything from kids anchor you, to breastfeeding is barbaric, to kids just ruin everything. 🤷🏻♀️
Yesss, this!!! So much of this conversation seems to assume that all women are working because they just want to "girlboss" all day. In my experience that is a total BS narrative designed to malign women. Most women work because they have pressing economic needs that don't just go away because you got a man or a baby on your hip.
@@simfimpim what I'd like to understand is why you troll Dr. Peterson and negate everything he says in multiple videos? If you don't agree with the guy, why watch his videos? Go find someone with whom you agree and watch their videos instead. I never understood this logic, I'll keep watching his videos even though I don't agree with him. If I get a suggestion of someone and their views are not mine and they don't add any value to my life or help me think deeper into issues, I remove them or block them from my feed. You're trolling Peterson disagreeing with him on multiple videos. I don't get it.
Yes mr peterson lets have kids and pass our generational trauma onto our own sperm so we feel less alone in the suffering, psychologists are such a blight
You can try to pursue your career but remember - People will throw you down the street the moment you stop producing value but your children may not if you cared about them.
"Extra money does not help you." Not only that, but women who make a lot of money aren't any better off in terms of mating value than their poorer counterparts, whereas it's the inverse for men. It actually shrinks a woman's dating pool to be financially well-off because the only men they'll be interested in make just as much as they do, or ideally more thanks to hypergamy.
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It's still better than being trapped in a miserable marriage with no way out.
@@saltycat662 Perhaps I'm being optimistic here but miserable marriage can be fixed if both parties will work for it but the standards of highly successful women can never be changed.
@@saltycat662You get what you give.
@@Razear they wish to find a man who is financially and socially matched so she doesn’t become financially abused. Golddiggers aren’t exclusively women, are they?
Daughters of richer men have been targeted by leeches and higher social status wannabes for centuries.
Now more average status women have better access to money in their own name than they ever have, it’s ripe for the taking.
Being dominated and robbed by a lesser man isn’t what any little girl dreams of.
The problem most women have is that they have had poor childhood experiences with men which results in them being very uncomfortable with making themselves dependent on a man. The reason that the model of the man going out to earn the brunt of the resources and women staying at home to look after the runnong of the house and child is because children need an insane amount of care and attention in prder to develop to their full potential. Women, in most cases, have to sacrifice their financial independence in order to make this work and most would rather not due to their mistrust of men. Those who find a good guy, who can provide, and who looks after them well will tell you that having children feels like the most natural thing that they are built for and wouldn't have it any other way.
And the "poor childhood experiences with men" are the lies that they are told in gender studies.
Exactly. The SAHM experience is a vastly different experience for every woman and therefore every child.
Dependent upon the temperament of the husband/father (appreciative, caring and fair, not domineering, neglectful and tyrannical) and the relationship between them both.
The differences in mothering capabilities of the cherished wife vs the cheated on, neglected girlfriend, in fear of abandonment will be stark.
Also including the temperament of the woman (maternal instinct, health wise, etc) and the temperament of the child/ren (colicky baby, developmental issues, multiple births, etc)
That’s before including anything regarding their social class or income, housing arrangements or available resources.
100% agree.
It’s not just men who are predators. Middle class and lower women financially and even women well off financially are often financial predators too
"middle class and lower women and even women well off financially"
...so all women?
I'm not sure your definition of "predator" aligns with Peterson's.
there is an answer to how to have a career and a family. the kids don't need you attention all the time you have kids younger once you kids grow up then start your career. just read that's how you advance in anything.
oldie but goldie.
Thos was what happened to my wife before I met her. 😢. I love to be her hero
Oh this is Ryerson! I always think I have seen every single video of Dr. Peterson’s but I have not yet seen this one in its entirety. So much has changed since then, but he hasn’t. He’s the same old sixpence.
Profound in extreme!
Jordan is beautiful. Thank you so much for your work.
Spitting facts.
Not to mention money makes men more attractive to women
Women can’t confront their own shadow.
I don't think viewers fully get the magnitudeof his words. He saw the backstage of these types of people for years. His analysis of the pros and cons of women in the workforce and the implications on the fabric of society is brilliant.
He can fact-check any foggy ideology around. I don't think we can find a more realistic and cultured person than him.
At 61, I still work 60 hours per week, stayed in a professional career most of my life. Currently 1/3 of my children think I abandoned them during their childhood. My spouse will not work and leaves all financial responsibilities to me.
I can’t even begin to imagine the bullet I dodged by not carrying my first baby to full term (miscarriage)
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(I was in a feminist mindset)
I wish I had, had that baby, but I'm so glad I didn't have that baby, with the man that fathered that baby
Now, I’m married to a great man and I just want a baby 😢
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Facts facts facts!!!!!!❤❤❤❤❤ Like it or don't!! He isn't wrong! 🔥🔥🔥
I'm mental picked poorly for partner, at least I went to school and a loving father gave us the house I live in. I have good adult children I shuttered to think if I had to stay in a horrible marriage idk
Freedom =/= Happiness
Money is freedom.
it's wonderful to hear something explained so clear so people exually get it straight away. I love to think everyone in that classroom became inspired to be like the man that just woke them up.
So what is the solution?
Love it
But you cannot mend this condition with law, it can only be mended by mere practicality and necessity. The present condition cannot sustain itself. Nature (or the grace of God) will reset the human condition and change our course.
Most families fail, so at least you got your own money!
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Most divorces are initiated by women. And women are highly favoured within the court system anyway. Bill Gates' ex-wife became the richest woman on earth by divorcing him.
Wow! That's a very cynical view on family. I grew up surrounded by successful families be it within mine or friends and extended family. I'm sorry you did not, but cynicism won't help you overcome what you endured. God Bless.
@@howiecarnivore It's true though. Statistics prove this.
@@FrikaWies it seems my comment was removed? Nothing I said was controversial.
Women initiate most divorces. That's backed by facts.
Women are highly favoured in court. That's backed by facts.
And I mentioned Gates' ex-wife. Also, a fact.
IF THE SUN HAS SET YOU FREE YOU ARE FREE INDEED
Based
I would much rather be at uni or doing interesting at work than sitting at home cleaning, cooking, gossipping (drinking?), or worse, having kids. Not all of us like or want kids. I love my job ❤. I cannot think of anything worse than being a housewife or a raising kids. And yes, i am a devout christian.
Then good for you. However, this is the same song of many women and when they reached a certain age, the same song turns into a different tune altogether.
@@silenthero2795 only benefit to having kids is that they look after you when ur old IF they want to be decent ppl, we know heaps Chuck their parents into nursing homes and so it's really the pot of the luck.
@@changecomesfromwithin7377 Well, if that's how you only view kids then more power to you. Then again, its still the same even if you don't have kids. You'll still end up somewhere out there when you get old. You don't need kids to chuck you off somewhere. Companies do that all the time and, dare I say, much worse of.
@@silenthero2795 i know, it's like death by a million ants
You'll change your views with time. I guarantee you that
Jordan Blocked me on twitter…I honestly haven’t a clue why…?
He may not have at all.. maybe the pigeon he has judging the comments... he has more to do than check every comment...
He may not have at all.. it may be a the pigeon he had checking comments.. don't despair .
Fire the person who made the intro image.
Nothing MGTOW wasn't saying from day 1....smh 🙄
What makes Dr. Peterson think that having a career brings "freedom?" Women who choose career over having children are usually doing it for more personal reasons than just "I want a career."
Many people say that. I don't want kids because I don't want to be tied down. I heard that more than anything else. My son's girlfriend says that. Hollywood sells that and new generations are buying it.
Is it always the case? Of course not.
I heard everything from kids anchor you, to breastfeeding is barbaric, to kids just ruin everything. 🤷🏻♀️
Yesss, this!!! So much of this conversation seems to assume that all women are working because they just want to "girlboss" all day. In my experience that is a total BS narrative designed to malign women. Most women work because they have pressing economic needs that don't just go away because you got a man or a baby on your hip.
@@simfimpim what I'd like to understand is why you troll Dr. Peterson and negate everything he says in multiple videos? If you don't agree with the guy, why watch his videos?
Go find someone with whom you agree and watch their videos instead.
I never understood this logic, I'll keep watching his videos even though I don't agree with him. If I get a suggestion of someone and their views are not mine and they don't add any value to my life or help me think deeper into issues, I remove them or block them from my feed. You're trolling Peterson disagreeing with him on multiple videos. I don't get it.
Financial freedom. Freedom to be successful
Common sense and logic.
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@@Reformsqua At least I show my face.
@@diegofigueroa3662you like bastard 😅😅😅
@@diegofigueroa3662even MORE irrelevant.
@@SnickC13 So irrelevant that you take your time to reply and comment on it.
We cant afford to have more kids
Allahu Akbar!
Yes mr peterson lets have kids and pass our generational trauma onto our own sperm so we feel less alone in the suffering, psychologists are such a blight
The video is just 10 minutes and yet your attention span couldn't even keep up with it to understand it fully.
I just want to know if Jordan got all that bloody gum off of his fingers.
great video by JP as always.