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- Terrible Writing Advice shambles forward in a mindless attempt to teach writers how to write a zombie story. The trick is to make everything as mindless as the zombies themselves.
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Then there's the IQ of the characters rising and falling when the plot needs it to.
In fairness, people's IQ DO go down when they panic. However, the mistakes such folks make in these movies is jaw-droppingly stupid.
@@johnathonhaney8291 "Oh no! My best friend is being eaten by zombies! Better forget how to use the gun I'm holding right now!"
@@paolo2763 This actually happens in combat.
Yu Xiang Yao
Well there would be a significant pause, you could shoot your friend by accident. Even if I had the time to realize it’s still better odds and that getting shot is a way less painful death than zombie bites, I would still hesitate. Guilt and morality are annoying.
@@NarpytheCrimeDog Sorta. You may doubt a little or even don't think about it because of the shock, but in the instant your eyes happens to find the gun in your hands then the trigger it's almost triggered inmediately. It's called self preservation.
...i think.
It’s sad that Plants Vs Zombies is the most original zombie series in years
Pretty much
What about Dead Space?
You should see "Juan de los muertos" (Juan of the dead).
Is your standard zombie apocalypse... on the communist Cuba!!!
Gakkou Gurashi
What about WWZ?
Everyone: *turns into zombies*
Comic relief character: Z A P P E R S
AWKWAAAARD!!!
No, comic relief character, YOU ARE THE ZAPPERS.
Zappers:the guy who dies first
ZAPPERS just won a trip to the red zone
Other zombies: braaaaains
Comic relief zombie: Z a p p e r s
Zombies seem to be in an endless cycle of becoming over-saturated and then nobody uses them and then somebody does something clever with them and then they become over-saturated again...
Almost like some kind of metaphor about the undead and reincarnation.
Or flu season
as tvtropes says, an undead horse trope.
It's an easy monster to make. The only thing easier is vampires who...go through that too...
@@BATCHARRO I feel like this will only get worse once the pandemic finally stops. All the crappy zombie movies...
Same with Dystopian novels, ever since Hunger Games a bag of shit world building began: separating people into groups like we're at Hogwarts, everything happening in America.
It kind of died out around 2017 I think.
Oh, and never call them zombies.
call them "shamblers" or something ridiculous.
Oh yeah, can't believe he forgot that one.
Because no one likes the “Z” word.
"Oh, God, more Zappers! This is real bad!"
Shamblers, shufflers, stumbleboys, etc... Nothing conveys the terror of zombies like someone shouting "Run for your lives!!! The bumblers are coming!"
The excuse is always that it helps for suspension of disbelief.
But it’s become a stupid cliche in of itself.
You've succeeded the moment the audience says to themselves _"We're_ the real monsters".
The real zombies were the friends we made along the way.
Jacob O'Rourke Because they got bitten and we were too busy angsting to deal with them.
YOU!!! I thought you just frequented anime videos.
That's not even the main theme of the concept of zombie stories, it's just the most popular interpretation at the moment, which is why most zombie stories focus a lot on scavenger villains. Well, that and zombies don't present you with a lot of demanding conflict.
But there are a lot more interesting themes except "humans are the real monsters", in fact I think it's the most contrived theme writers can put in a zombie story, or rather you can write a better story with that theme than a zombie story.
Even the one TWA mentioned isn't the only one.
There is also the theme about the loss of identity and own thoughts, as if the horde is possessed by a hive mind that only wants to consume life, but not end it. Like a supernatural vampiric spirit that is neither alive or dead. And the zombies rott because they are cut off from their own life source, leaving them to decay (their cells don't reproduce but they still die off), and their immune system is gone which allows all worms and bacteria to eat them up. The reason why they want brains is because they need to reproduce their possession through infecting others.
So basically, in this interpretations zombies are kinda symbolic for extremist propaganda, or a mass ideology. And I didn't even make this interpretation up, I think it's one of the oldest zombie story themes.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA that is so hacky
I've always wanted to see something that starts with your cliche patient-zero zombie, someone promptly shoots it in the head because they recognize it's a zombie, then the rest of the story has a totally unrelated plot and genre, like a romantic comedy.
So... the "bath salts" incident from real life?
There's an XKCD for this, as usual
@@haveagoodmourning *as always
@@scienceface8884 what’s the “bath salts incident”?
@@0rbeez Back in 2012, some guy in Miami stripped off all his own clothes in the middle of the sidewalk, started freaking out over nothing and just beat an old homeless man unconscious and then ate the upper half of his face. Some bystander called 911 and police show up 20 min later, tell him to stop or they'll shoot. They guy growls at the cop and then goes back to eating the still-living homeless man. So the cop shoots him. But that doesn't stop him, so he shoots him again. Had to do that 5 times before the guy stops and dies.
Everyone said it was because he was strung out on a new street drug called Bath Salts, but I don't think that was ever confirmed, the preliminary toxicology report only found cannabis in his system.
So that was the zombie apocalypse of 2012.
Honestly, I haven't seen a zombie story that wasn't just a virus or fungus in over a decade. Magic or alien zombie origin would be outright refreshing at this stage.
Another angle I once saw as a story idea was a medieval setting where magic was too weak to counter the zombies. I Am Legend actually referenced historical plagues that could give any writer a starting point on such an outbreak.
Well, in mass effect you have bio-mechaninc zombies (they are a secondary thing in the series but it's there anyway) and in dead space you have necromorphs which are much more interesting than your typical zombie due to their lovecraftian alien backstory
Read '68, zombies from that comic have unique origin
Jojo's Bizarre adventure has vampire zombies, how they're made is with a human wearing a bloodstained stone mask to become vampires, the mask itself made by a race of highly evolved vampires as an attempt to further evolve, and converting the humans they kill into semi-mindless zombies that tear apart their victims for food similar to other zombies. I mean, all three kinds die from sunlight exposure, but still
Kind of funny you say that, I remember reading about the origins of Zombies a couple years ago. I don't remember all the details, but it involved a Voodoo master putting someone under a spell which makes them a mindless slave. Might want to read up on it again just to be sure that it is the origins of Zombies, but if it is, god-DAMN have we strayed from the source material.
“A mindless swarm of all consuming...hmm, can’t think of a comparison.”
What about a Twitter feed?
It exists on a plane of existance that were not able to destroy with fire. ( only Twitter can do that to itself)
I was thinking Reddit, but Twitter works too.
Pasta Heart Welcome to Reddit - the only site where the groups will ban you for joining other groups
(Specifically, r/Beto2020 banned me for subscribing to r/ProGun)
Caiã Wlodarski Yeah I mean that’s fair. But I had literally never posted on the sub. It’s against Reddit’s rules to auto-ban people. I had a good laugh at the cognitive dissonance though.
Yes, but not touching your thumbs up. Right now you have 666, rather appropriate given the topic I think.
Shaun of the Dead is the only zombie film I’ve watched where the army is actually competent, which sad because it’s a comedy.
In a similar vein, I recommend Dog Soldiers, which pits a British army unit on maneuvers against a pack of werewolves. Most of them die but none of them make stupid, obvious mistakes.
not only that but the zombie apocalypse is averted....via the government and society NOT collapsing after the initial outbreak and instead people just getting accustomed to the zombies till they're basicaly a public nuisance at worst
Exactly. Truth is stranger than fiction, and a lot less dramatic.
I like how world war Z puts actual reasoning how the army units fail, battle of yonkers was done for bravado and they didnt take the threat seriously, israeli quarentine failed because the jews were fighting the goverment and 1 van with zombies in it crashed. Thats the theme of world war z in a sense, it only takes one fuck up for an epidemic.
yep how long did it take the mill to show up in force like three days right?
then after the zombies were turned into entertainment
Actual advice: When adding a disposable side-character to your band of survivors, make sure that the cliches you are using to characterize him don't make him the most competent and well-prepared character in the story. I'm looking at you, The Walking Dead tv show. In his first 15 seconds on screen, Daryl Dixon showed more survival skills/applied common sense than every other character up to that point, combined. And I'm still convinced they did that on accident...
@Joseph Sosa wait, the show is still running ?
@@zascoco6617 the Walking Dead has become a zombie franchise. How ironic.
@@zascoco6617 To be honest, I thought his comment HAD to be like two or three years old... And then I looked up and saw, "Posted 3 days ago"...
@@zascoco6617 Yup, we are almost done season ten.
i hate andrea
You forgot the character that watched a lot of zombie movies and is really good at killing them but is a total geek
I think I'd rather have that than the characters who don't fucking know even the basics on how to kill someone with puncturing their brain. Seriously, in zombie media, it seems like nobody has ever at some point in their lives seen someone die so they can put two-and-two together and think "OH maybe if I shoot them in the head they'll stop trying to kill me", instead of just shooting or hitting them in the body from the neck down a few times and just giving up.
These characters in comparison to the geeks you mentioned, seem to be far more common than those kinds of characters. Then again I haven't watched or played any new zombie games movies in years so I could be wrong.
just to please the sweaty gamers who havent left their house in days
Zoey from left 4 dead
“Bruuuuuuuuhhhhhh”
-Minecraft Zombie
Bruhhhhhh
Bruuuuuh
I'd like to report a *bruuuuuuhhh* moment
Nicholas Bender I felt that 😔 👊
That hit different.
Ah yes, zombie apocalypse, time to start dating someone. Aren't rotting corpses so romantic?
To be fair, humans are, well, human. When disaster strikes, that doesn't stop your emotions, doesn't keep you from trying to make the best of things, and doesn't prevent you from sticking to your comfortable habits that give you order and hope.
Ugggh necrophilia
Those people need to be purged
@@owlblocksdavid4955 Not to forget that probably, people will have a stronger urge to reproduce when there's a situation that endangers the species. Worded very robotic, but whatever lmao
Its well documented that during widespread plagues or illnesses, and th e collapse of societies. People tend to do their best bunny impersonation. During the plague years in London they had to threaten excommunication to get people to stop having sex on the tombstones in graveyards.
@@thesocialistsarecoming8565 Ah yes, the most romantic setting: a beautiful moon, the warmth of a bonfire, grandma's remains being inmolated inside the fire
So some quick pro tips. Even if 99% of the entire human population is wiped out... that's ironically still enough to repopulate the human race with. You really only need about 4k healthy and reproductively viable pairs.
Most cities only have 2-3 days worth of inventory, so food shortages will take place within the first week. If you consider scavenging, looting, and spoilage, all processed foodstuff will probably be expired or consumed within 5 years. Even most doomsday stockpiles dont exceed 10 years.
The priority of all humans will be water, food and shelter. In a post apocalyptic setting, the severity and availability of those three things is going to vary dramatically. If your in a place like wyoming, water is going to be far more concerning than the dead. If your in the mountains, stockpiling food for the winter will be your priority. For some reason people only think about the zombies and surviving off rats. I encourage people to watch "Alone" to see just how difficult lonewolf survivalism actually is.
@Marcus Mysteriously body pillows dont count lol
@@ygobe2 oof
@Marcus Mysteriously simp
@@ygobe2 damn, you didn't have to kill the man.
@Marcus Mysteriously lmfao good lad
"You can't have zombies without the apocalyse!"
Resident Evil: Huh? What?
Isn't each episode showing almost always an Apocalypse / near ?
@@Lucyller Maybe Resident Evil 6. The majority of them consist of localized outbreaks.
Plants vs zombies wants to have a word
Deadrising: sweats nervously.
How the Resident evil world continues to function is bizarre
Love Triangles are like zombies: a cliche that's been long since dead, everyone can see how gross they are, yet they're still alive.
Don't forget how easily they are to avoid if only people would take a moment to look around and use a bit of reasoning.
Actually, I think zombies' stories are a totally rare genre out of the USA. They love this stuff, but most of the world doesn't
@@sharonefee1426 Not exactly. It is more that it is such cliche that Hollywood making those movies despite no one really watching them (until it is occasionally good). There is always chance that someone go on them by coincidence, due to franchise recognition.
@@sharonefee1426 it's probably because it's harder to write a zombie story outside of the U.S.
Take Shaun of the Dead, for example. Excellent British comedy movie, parodies a lot of tropes, great writing and all of that. Thing is, since there's a low firearms ownership rate in the United Kingdom, particularly among law-abiding, working class people in London, none of the main cast have a weapon with more range than a cricket bat.
The only firearm used by the main cast is an old lever-action rifle that the owner had (presumably illegally) not deactivated and even left it loaded.
However, less than a day after the start of the spread of the zombie virus, the British military shows up in big trucks with G36Cs and drops all of the infected. The apocalypse ends there, Shaun and his girlfriend survive and manage to get back into what would be a reasonably normal state of living. People even make scrappy reality TV spots in universe about the short-lived plague.
You see, most countries are either very culturally distinct from the United States, are much larger or smaller, have less cool weapons for the survivors to get their hands on, and/or often have a lot of their civilisation a lot closer together in a way that allows armed police or military forces to quickly spread out and contain any threat. The ones that don't have a good armed forces presence would make for pretty boring movies; watching small towns away from capitals in countries with a lot of land and very few firearms would just be "People die very slowly: the movie" without good writers and directors.
TL;DR, the U.S.A. is kind of in a golden spot in terms of culture, size, density and arms posession to be a viable and reasonable setting for a high action apocalypse movie, as anywhere else wouldn't have the private weapons or slow response times and large population to make the event as complex and drawn out.
@Steven Bobby Bills
That's a really good point -- I'd never thought of that.
Wow, that makes me wonder about how that plays into the general themes of a zombie story . . . a lot of the underlying horror of the genre is the fear of losing one's humanity and individuality to a mindless majority, but in a way a lot of the problems are caused or exacerbated by the characters' relative isolation. That's kind of weird to think about.
Cue the Obligatory Brains Joke-
Oh it’s literally in the opening. Good.
Too be fair, do you expect anything else of him
Mon Hunterz, No, I personally love Return of the Living Dead...well the first one anyway. That’s where that trope originally came from.
And the ending
The end card killed me
"Fungus Among Us"
I had a good laugh at that.
among us.
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Ironic how the Zombie genre is a zombie itself. By which I mean, something that should be dead but is still alive, and wants nothing more than to either devour or infect any media in its path.
Imagine trying to run away from zombies and a marathon zombie breaks through the hoard.
Austin H "Oh my god! That zombie - it's Mo Farah!"
Usain Bolt zombie. Run down humans like a cheetah
There was an athlete zombie in I Am A Hero
Imagine if the outbreak happened during the Olympics. Now those undead would be terrifying. None of that slow movement speed or lack of vehicle profiency bullshit. That stuff is all muscle memory
Alex Kozliayev yup
Zombie-alien-spy? I smell a franchise...
Having anthropomorphic turtles in their adolescence that knew martial art worked out well, why not.
A LOVE FRANCHISE!
I had an idea once. Imagine a teaser trailer: zombies shambling through the empty streets of a city, then you hear a rumble, then another, and another, but the zombies don't respond. The puddles on the street vibrate like in Jurassic Park, then you cut to this ultra wide shot, and there _is_ a T-Rex in the middle of the city, which lets out a massive roar, and you get the three word title over black, one word at a time.
*"ZOMBIE - DINOSAUR - APOCALYPSE"*
I told that to my brother and he said "If you write a sequel call it 'Zombie Dinosaur Alien Apocalypse"
Well alien is easy it could just be a person from another planet that just so happens to look human. Maybe it wasn't really a zombie in the classic sense but a drone in a hive mind that was somehow cut off from the hive mind long enough for it to do its work as a spy, but the zombie "goes native" and refuses to return to the hive mind, setting a seasons long conflict.
Its called tf2 cosmetics
JP: "The slow and inexorable-"
Me: *skips death cutscene* "Yeah yeah yeah, this is a tough level, just let me reload from the previous checkpoint so I can try yet again"
ZombiU my dude.
Choosing between fast zombies and slow zombies is *very* important for the overall theme and tone. Both types represent humans being outclassed at our best way of hunting, persistence hunting, but whether you choose fast or slow zombies changes this dramatically.
Fast zombies are the short term threats. Because of their lack of pain or physical limiters by the brain, they can dead sprint unceasingly. This means that outrunning them is impossible because humans can only do this for a few seconds, and even that's for athletes. This means that the danger of a zombie is immediate, and the choices and tactics survivors make have to be pre-determined in order for them to be successful. A single fast zombie can kill you easily even if you see it coming. The danger here is physical, rather than psychological, because the hardest part of survival is in the immediate vicinity rather than a slow inevitable collapse (obviously it's still there, but not as much thematically as slow zombies).
Slow zombies, however, fully encapsulate their superiority in stamina hunting thematically. Humans hunted not by running, but by keeping a constant pace of walking and jogging as they tired out their prey in the course of several hours. Fast zombies can't bring this theme forth because the danger is immediate, but slow zombies don't have this ability and instead rely on slowly swarming survivors until they can't escape anymore. A swarm of zombies will also keep with this endurance hunting theme by constantly being after the the characters who can keep outrunning them in the short term but will eventually be caught by the swarm. This also allows for immediate danger in which the characters have enough time to come up with a plan while still having a looming threat. You can see this in movies where a single slow zombie is ignored (but still known) by the characters because it is far away enough that it is safer to simply keep your distance rather than risk killing it. This is a good way to show how characters became used to the situation by realizing what kind of threat a zombie is in each specific situation.
Both choices allow for different dangers, character choices, as well as necessary planing for survival, but they most importantly have contrasting themes over the course of the story.
Hear me out, how about smart zombies that can communicate with each other and use tactics and millitary weapons
2:49 "But hey, if we can't lift zombies up, then the next best thing is to bring the humans down."
Damn quite a summation.
Nothing highlights the general cliches of the zombie genre like teenage shut in levels of misanthropy.
Why waste time looking at how real people handle catastrophes when you can just wax pseudo philosophical over how humans are evil and greedy for no reason other than being evil and greedy?
California in a nutshell
@@Foxmagik or the worst one
Some dipshit that keeps running off and endangering the group, or making stupidly bad decisions because “muh reasons”
Always have the story end with a cliffhanger where the main character got bit but secretly had a daughter off screen or something
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That was from a game I think
@@jules-vj2xz How tf does this relate to TLOU2 lmao.
Personally, alot of the plot of zombie movies could be explained as the zombie disease also causing stupidity.
Isn't that part of the plot of Cabin in the Woods?
Zombies: *represent the existential horror if the uncanny, the once-familiar, the swarm, the imminence of death, and cannibalistic comsumption*
Writers: "Zombies because jumpscare, plus have a touching family/love story"
Zombies: "Am I a joke to you?"
Taylor Gabbey Thats never the point of zombies. Its just a way to create an apocalypse scenario that reveals the worst humans action when society falls. Remember: good zombie story isn't about zombies, its about psychopaths and the remnants of society
Zombies are the perfect monster for western societies that rely on Judeo-Christian mythology. In a single package they represent the four horsemen of the biblical apocalypse and have the added bonus of putting a spin on a passage that apparently says the dead will rise in the end times.
1. Famine: Zombies make food scarce and agriculture hard to maintain, they also represent a gluttonous insatiable hunger, while the human characters starve scavenging nutrient rich twinkies.
2. "Pestilence: Zombies are created by disease and spread an often fatal version of it to new hosts when the host survives feeding.
3. War: Traditional zombies are only effective in swarms. They attack like an invading army and have to be put down with precision firepower. The army is often present in these stories, and characters inhabit warring factions, fighting over scraps of prime real estate.
4. Death: Pretty much goes without saying.
People in the English speaking world have been primed to picture an end much like this one for a very long time, it's no wonder zombies become popular the closer we get to destroying our ecosystem
Unknown Figure Ever play Dead Rising? The main interesting things are the psychopaths. Zombies are just plot device
Unknown Figure .....
Carlito in DR 1
The Helicopter Boss and Mailman in DR 2
The General in DR 3
Even if we discount all those obviously plot related psychopaths its clear that the zombies are just a side attraction compare to the rest of survivors
"The zombies aren't the monsters... We are... eh, no. Um... Humanity shines bright even in the darkest of... Nah, that's lame. He who fights monsters... I'm bored. We've been doing character drama and ham-fisted critics of the human condition for three seasons, let's have some guy get brutally ripped apart by zombies that we just remembered exist in this story.
I just almost scrolled past without reading your username.
Like some kind of idiot.
XD
*Civil authorities in your area have reported that the bodies of the dead have risen from their graves and are attacking the living*
@Daveret Brunet Secure. Contain. Protect
EeveeKnight and they seem to be...jazz dancing while being led by a singing one in a red leather jacket...
Adeptus Astartes are being deplode do not panic citizens the angels of death are here to protect you
The whole video I was thinking about exactly this
Gentlemen, at times like these, our capacity to retaliate must be and has to be massive, to deter all forms of aggression.
Gentlemen, lock and load.
Funny enough, going back to the voodoo type zombie, the ones controlled by someone, might be a fresher take on zombies. At least today.
Indeed...I recommend Hammer's Plague Of The Zombies for a good starting point on that angle.
overlord has std caused zombies that represent lust and are ontrolled by a succubus
they're actually smart too, enough to pose a real threat to the player
You mean like magic?
Isn't that how the White Walkers in Game of Thrones? A bunch of ice zombies from reanimated corpse thanks to some ancient magic.
Mustard Bastard the anime?
@@gamesmithy no, the game
I think that's the first time I've ever been disappointed to not get an ad at the end of any video.
Zombie Apocalypses: Because basic human decency dies when functioning government does, for some reason...
EDIT: "An obviously incompetent member who the group just...puts up with for some reason, even though he gets everyone killed one at a time."
Hey, you leave Ben alone! He's nice!
Zombie writers aren’t anarchists evidently.
Well as a note, tribal societies tend to be much more violent on a per capita basis than larger societies, though it tends to be inter-tribal conflict, not intra-tribal conflict, though that happens to. Also people tend to be nicer when they aren’t risking death by being nice. That said, there are an awful lot of socio and psychopaths in zombie novels.
I'd huck them out the window the moment when they start saying we should rape and pillage.
Albert D It has taken us thousands of years of conscious efforts to get our societies as peaceful as they currently are and people still aren’t generally kind by default to strangers, in general all that’s expected is to not be rude. And that’s because we are wired to distrust strangers, it literally takes years of education to mostly get around those innate tendencies, and then only because strangers almost never kill people or even cause problems. The moment that people start stealing or killing to gain an upper hand, even if they are a small minority, all trust people build up from birth in strangers will instantly crumble, especially when potential consequences go up from getting yelled at by a rude passerby to having your gun stolen and left for dead, if not outright shot. Look at the Wild West, many came from much more civilized cultures than the culture of the Wild West, and yet still contributed to its lawlessness. Also Lord of the Flies while fictional is a pretty decent example of what civilized men might do under the right circumstances.
@@Treviisolion eh the wild west wasnt actually that bad. Most outlaws had only settled there after running away from actual society some actually just made a life for themselves or got captured. Places like tombstone were considered bloody cuz they had 2 murders a year. Most place usually only had one in a decade. Robberies were more common cuz lack of security and distrust in the government remember the government was trying to steal land out from under settlers or tax them without helping them at all. There were indian attacks but after multiple battles and massacres that also stopped resulting in the reservations. Most sheriffs and deputies brought criminals in alive and most shoot outs were rare and usually had only wounded not dead. What i'm saying is that new york writers made up alot of shit to sell shitty books. Kinda like hollywood with movies. Wild west was only wild cuz of the wild life.
Our Dark Lord Skillshare has forsaken us! Tis the darkest of days!
I need to know what happens next in the epic of the Skillshare sponsorship.
This is clearly a halloween special, nothing plot relevant happens on those.
Blame the Knight of Artistic Integrity.
I kinda thought zombies were so stupid, even Skillshare wanted distance from the topic... ;o)
2:05 That soldier who balances himself on top of that tank's cannon while it fires no less is a true chad.
"...how various government and military institutions failed to contain the outbreak." How terribly relevant to our current global situation
OK, now you've made me want a story where the main character is an alien zombie spy. I thought this was about bad writing advice, not awesome writing ideas.
...that was a joke, but I still want a story like that.
C H A L L E N G E A C C E P T E D
The fifth wave is quite close to that
Actually sounds like a unique spin on Lovecraft if done right.
Zombie alien... I guess the question would then be whether an undead state is natural for that species, or is it due to technological advancements?
Also why something dead wants to be a spy on earth. Is it residual effects of that alien's life? Did it move to earth because it no longer has the mental capacity to spy on its own species, so it was sent to lowly humans? Does this creature's death make it smarter rather than dumber?...
Okay, I'm done ;)
Wait, no
What if the alien keeps dying and coming back to life and each time ends up just a little slower and a little more dumb
Earth is just another stop on its slowly devolving abilities, next will be animals, goldfish, then microbes... poor alien zombie
- Zombies can only bee line to potential prey
*Sweats in Return of the Living Dead*
The zombies in that movie are probably the smartest zombies is any fiction
Sorry, I'm uncultured, someone wish to explain
DMUA in Return of the Living dead the zombies are smart to an extent, being capable of using weapons
@@deeznoots6241 and building traps
@@dmua9551 the Zombies in Return of the Living Dead are incredibly smart, capable of making intelligent decisions, outhink their prey, make traps, use weaponary and the surrounding environment to their advantage and some even TALK
No love triangle? If there ever was a time for a "back from the dead" joke.
Kidding! I loved this! Thanks for another great vid.
What about Zombie Alien Spy Love Triangle? XD
♫My boyfriend's back and you're gonna be in trouble♫
♪(Hey-la-day-la my boyfriend's back)♪
You forgot how to mention that a rag tag group of nobodies manages to be more efficient than the military of the respecting country. Or how our main character has plot armor for even certain death whike others die in the most preventable way.
I'm so early zombies are still relevant.
lol
Z-
*Zombies: The white noise of creativity!*
Heh! I get that reference!
Who says white noise can't be enjoyable to listen to :p
Colfax the Grim
I had a bit of an idea though I’m not sure if I want or have the medication to write it so here it goes
- Zombie apocalypse starts in an area with low firearm/self-defense weapon ownership
- Infects most of world in several months rather than days or weeks (Aside from Africa, Upper Asia, and Antarctica due to heat extremes)
- Most zombies are the sprinting mindless kind, but those with partial immunity can become an intelligent zombie
- These Intelligent zombies still retain their past knowledge and unlike normal zombies, they don’t blindly charge at any uninfected (more like a suggestion than a command)
- There are instances where zombies get hungry enough to eat each other (sometimes happens to hundred or thousands of zombies all at once)
And the big one...
- The “protagonist” is one of these intelligent zombies that either lures survivors into traps or uses their military/survivalist experience to wound survivors so that the zombies finish them off
The one thing that can bring me, if ever so slightly, out of a zombie setting is if the women have smooth armpits.
Yes, take time out of either running from zombies or scrounging for food to trim a random hair patch with some tool that's covered in rust on a good day, zombie juice on a bad day
mutantmaster1 a good razorblade won't rust. Stainless steel or titanium blades are very available and last forever with minor upkeep.
Other than that, yeah. Shaving wouldn't be high on my to do list.
@@gamesmithy I guess but they would likely use the razors to make weapons. I understand why they would cut hair and cut beards a bit Bc they get quite long and might be hard to wash but naturally short Arpit hair doesn't need to be cut
SAME. In any "surivival" or action movie, seeing the women all perfectly groomed with just a little dirt over their contour makeup, perfectly curled hair, and false eyelashes makes me unreasonably angry. 😅 Especially when the men are bleeding and hairy and sweating through their tank tops.
It's almost as bad as "fighting chick in heels." Cowardly filmmakers, won't let their women be ugly and human...takes me right out of it.
As a whole, I do agree with this. The fact that it is done to keep the actresses "Pretty" is frustrating. However, there is a survival benefit to shaving excess hair. It lowers your chances of being infected with lice and fleas, which carry other dieses. That is why, many times throughout history, people would shave not only their armpits, but the rest of their bodies, including their heads and even their eyebrows, and the rich would wear wigs and makeup. Wigs could be fumigated to kill lice and fleas.
Granted, in the zombie apocalypse, I don't think I'm gonna worry all that much as to whether my eyebrows are "On Fleeck" or not, lol.
that's hollywood for you, no matter how grim and bleak the post apocalyptic setting, no matter the scarcity of resources, the female characters will ALWAYS have clean, non greasy hair and freshly shaved legs/armpits
At this point I'm honestly curious how much military tactics and doctrine this guy's learned from researching his videos
You should check out his Fantasy Battles video, where several real world battle strategies are brought up along with The Great Courses course that inspired it.
Imagine a zombie story from the perspective of the luckiest zombie, or the perspective of the horde at large perhaps.
I can't remember the name, But there was a pretty good web comic I read a long while ago about people who were still cognisiant as zombies.
Warm Bodies ;)
That's a lucky zombie
You need to watch iZombie and Santa Clarita Diet!
CineMasterDamian1939 the iZombie comic went to newage weirdness.
@@gamesmithy I was talking about the show actually. Never read the comic
I personally enjoyed World War Z.
The book, not the movie. The movie is awful.
Oh shit, you actually put it in the video. Nice!
The way he says certain things gives me the impression he really liked WWZ.
The book was pretty terrible too
The book was boring. Moved all over the place and read like a history book.
@@HongFeiBai That's literally the point of the book.
@@HongFeiBai That's the point, you idiot!
TWD died at Season 2, but it continues on just slower, worse, and it stinks.
The show isn't just *about* zombies, it *is* a zombie.
It was actually pretty crappy right from the start. But I think the worst of it comes around the point they introduced Eugene. I mean, it was still borderline self parody, but up to around that point there were some things they did consistently well, Eugene demonstrated an unforgivable sin of characterization the infinitely long arc. Once you realize that he exemplifies the fact that these characters never go anywhere, psychologically, unless they die, you start thinking about how uninteresting all of these people are now.
Everybody hated Beth for some reason, but at least she sang. The group became one character, in the worst way possible, if they deviated, ever, it was for the sake of the plot. It was a very forced show.
i think it wasn't alive untill season 3 lol.
I still enjoy it. Season 10 is by far my favourite. Hope it will keep it up.
It sux. Sgc barberian is better
TWD is irrelevant. No plot, nothing moves forward, unrealistic psychology. Humans die, humans survive. Nothing ever changes.
My new favorite trend in zombie media is the human zombie like *iZombie* and *Santa Clarita Diet* where even if a person becomes a zombie, they're still somewhat the person they use to be in life but need to eat human flesh regularly or else they'll become the classic brainless zombie. It's a more interesting concept with great storytelling potential and a good way to keep the subgenera fresh, especially for television.
That would probably bring about the concept of flesh donors: people who saw off parts of their body for the zombies to eat.
Sounds like the plot of the Marvel Zombies comic series, but with without the superheroes
@@estheay3611 iZombie is actually a superhero show, it ran on the CW from 2015-19 and based on the DC-Vertigo comic series. I highly recommend it!
The Walking Love Triangle
"There's a Zombie on your lawn!
There's a Zombie on your lawn!" 😂😂😂
Your neighbor cackles evilly chanting something. The realization hits you as more zombies rise from their lawn. Discovering that your neighbor is a necromancer what do you do?
Don't like zombies on your lawn!
"There's a girl in the garden."
"What?"
"In the garden, there is a girl"
@@futurestoryteller ahh yes, Mary. The one that just looked really pissed right up until she survived getting impaled.
Zachary Gadzinski
I ask if he/she is single.
1:29 When the Fungus is...
SUS!!!!
Is it really "turning on each other" when so many of us are already at each other's throats?
But that is the point. Scary things in Romero movies were other people. Fact that zombies are low threat but unstoppable, menat that people have time to turn each against another, over diminishing resources.
@@TheRezro - I get that. I was making a joke. The real threat to man has always been man and natural disasters.
@@PaulGaither It's also the point of virtually all of Guillermo Del Toro's films.
@@johnathonhaney8291 I thought the point of his films was that he's not-so-low-key teratophile.
@@Foxmagik Nope...in all his films, no matter how scary the monsters, the humans are always worse.
Ironically, this gave me a good idea for a zombie story.
Hope it's as good as you think it is, because I don't know how easy it would be to sell.
I hope it's zombie/alien/spy!
What is it?
All you have to do is try to avoid most of these cliches.
@@lovelylipbonesouwwwwwwwolv2198You can avoid most of these cliches by having an apocalypse in a different time period
"Then add an obviously incompetent member that gets everybody killed..."
does he mean the guy with the white shirt that makes horrible decisions, acts like they're an actor in a Shakespeare play, and gets everybody killed? Or the guy with a silly catchphrase that shows up for like, two scenes?
I love how he has to tell us to read world war z because it's just that freakin good
HELLO SOMEONE HELP ME i can't find his video where at one point he's like "don't make the protag go up against a gun with a sword that's dumb" and then calls himself out bc he does that in aeon legion
You're likely thinking "Sci-Fi Weapons".
I think we are forgetting the power of the all mighty Love Triangle. According to the movie Warm Bodies Love (or some other contrived nonsense) can reverse zombification.
"Let's always use guns despite them being loud attracting more zombies and attention and that ammunition is getting rare. They always jam and make you disoriented. But its okay, I'm fine with being deaf to the point I can't hear those dam zombies coming. A spear made from a broom and a kitchen knife is useless! Where can I find that? I'll also drive cars that need gas and maintenance than rather use some bicycle I can find everywhere on the streets which is much quieter, faster and easier to maintain!"
Tbf if ur in a settled environment with a community of survivors then gunsnare best. Guns require little training.
YT Zombie-go-boom succeeded in penetrating an analog zombie skull with No. 2 pencils.
Some body I suspect you have little experience with firearms. A melee weapon is great most of the time, but if there’s a whole bunch coming for you then a gun is a much safer bet.
Some body
In my mind, axes and crowbars are the best multi-tool weapons, spears beat swords and knives, slingshots are severely underrated, and bikes are a mixed bag (vehicles offer protection, speed, and not having to rely on physique)
@@warlynx5644 Vehicles also have much more space to carry resources, longdistance travel and useable in all not extreme weather conditions. Looking at you Winter. Getting chains for your Wheels should not be hard.
1:23 POSSIBLE AMOGUS REFERENCE!!!!!111!!!! WHEN THE IMPOSTER IS SUS X3
I tried way to hard on this one to male it sound "authentic"
"If one vampire is scary, then a whole army of vampires is scarier" - - - - - Richard Matheson, author of: I AM LEGEND, the first story of the Undead Apocalypse subgenre of sci-fi horror
Jeffrey314159 Its never a subgenre of sci-fi horror. Its a subgenre of apocalypse settings. The whole point of apocalypse settings is about the breakdown and aftermath with MAYBE a rebuilt of society
@@nomblob5592 And Matheson's I Am Legend did indeed have a rebuilt society in the end, albeit one of vampires. I heard one commenter say that the novel was a metaphor for growing old, shutting yourself off from a society you no longer fit in with or understand. Zombies themselves reflect institutionalized rot in apocalypse scenarios.
@@nomblob5592 Broadly speaking it is sci-fi, for the "apocalypse" (and the undead that follow) is not supernatural or occult in origin, but caused by scientific or technological manifestations: nuclear radiation, viruses, toxic chemicals, ultrasonic vibrations, etc etc.
As for "a rebuild of society", that is sociological science fiction! In the genres of FICTION we have many grey borders!
There is no real science in science-fiction - -
So there!
@@johnathonhaney8291 That is a bit of over-analyzing, even for me! Most Zombie- Apocalypse films are sleazy B movies
*laughs in Speedwagon Foundation
To be fair to zombies, after every cruddy behavior we have seen during covid it is no wonder zombies could easily overwhelm us.
Zombie apocalypse roleplay:
- Cool guy antihero
- Some random Bad Girl
- Comic relief character that does help accualy
- Cool antihero girl
- Comic relief character's rival
Imagine this.
The Z Nation drinking game:
drink whenever...
... someone behaves like they would not survive the first day of the zombie apokalypse, even though it is three years after the outbreak.
... the beforementioned behavior leads to an actually dangerous situation.
... the group runs out of ammunition.
... someone says something incredibly stupid.
... someone decides to do something for no other reason than the plot of the episode hinging on it.
Someone please test if this works, and the amount that has to be drunk to make it work properly. I do not drink alcohol.
Isn’t Z Nation that group of cringy children rapping?
@@synflwr
Never heard of them.
"... on par with most videogame characters"
Goddamit. You're right tho.
Alternate video title: "How Days Gone's story was made."
I remember when this channel barely had a thousand subscribers; I'm glad to see this channel grow so exponentially, you deserve all the hard work coming to you!
I completely agree - although a compliment about exponential growth does read just a tiny bit... oddly... on a video about zombie takeovers? 😂 (Just call us two of the TWA shamblers I guess!! 😁)
Ahhh this is pre COVID, I believe. He wasn’t awareness how fast we turned on each other for our precious toilet paper.
My favorite version of zombies: "The Dead Rise to Advertise"
The ads caused the zombie apocalypse.
Crossed
No sponsor?
I was looking forward to the next piece of the story
Same
These keep getting more and more masterfully helpful.
No sweat, just throw a potion of weakness and give them all a golden apple.
Glory to the empire and to... wait, no sponsor? Was it attacked by zombies?
I liked how he slapped "brains" all over the end card XD
And never have your character even try to utilize any form of armour. Just try to bite through your casual leather jacket to see how pointless even makeshift armour is.
Sooo, does that mean everyone should just wear leather jackets during a zombie outbreak?
@@estheay3611see zomboid.
1:37 _Among_ _Us?_ _Among_ _us_ _Sus?_
I think you may have forgotten the zombie love triangle.
There's a webtoon called Dead Days that does a nice take on the zombie genre. The "zombies" in the story is pretty unique, as for I've never seen this type of "zombie" before.
Zombies: it's so cliche, but we all love them
I feel deprived without a sponsored meta sub plot.
6:55 Actual amazing parody of grim dark, nothing out of the ordinary 😭😭
Resident Evil: I’d like to do literally everything in this video, then crank it up to 11!
I love how ridiculous Resident Evil is, especially when they made them into action games.
Resident Evil became action games... and I am all for it!
And Metal Gear Survive came and brought some egregious monetization tactics to go along with it.
At least the rules that govern the zombies are consistent within each game.
And the Humans aren’t usually idiots.
@MrKlassic Yeah... I am really not interest in RE 7 or 8 for that matter... I want to see Leon and Chris kick ass...
Forgot that there’s no cars on the streets and highways. When they find a car it’s full of gas. Oh and you have to have them go famous places. Oh and there is always a bird or dog mutant . But most importantly you have to have deer and other animals run around the city
My favorite piece of zombie related writing was graffiti on the walls of a safehouse in Left 4 Dead
"WE ARE THE REAL MONSTERS"
and all around this graffiti:
"you are a real MORON"
"No, that's the zombies"
"IDIOT"
"I think it's them, stupid"
"Fungus Among Us" Oh, so that's why there are impostors in the game.
What would an episode about crossovers be like? What points would be made?
MisterZygarde64 Always throw your characters into a story, even if theirs no clear reason why other than to draw in two fandoms at once?
World War Z (the novel) is a masterpiece in how a zombie apocalypse would become a planetary event despite any attempts at containing it. It was one of my favourite books, still is. The movie, on the other end, is complete rubbish.
I'm convinced that man's _name_ is Zappers, and he is secretly a Pokémon.
My favorite part of zom its is when the survivors are like" they're getting smarter"
No Sponsorship Wars? I feel betrayed.
I recently read a zombie story, where the MC is an optimist, and stays that way throughout the story. He observes, experiments and is kinda fascinated by the mechanics of the zombies, even though he's shit scared of them. Cause it HELPS him survive.
It's great, and renewed my interest in the genre. I hope more zombie story will do stuff like that
Do you remember the title? That actually sounds like a zombie story worth my time!
@@johnathonhaney8291 Well, it's a fanfic AU, so not sure if it's your cup of tea.¯\_(ツ)_/¯ If so, it's called 'Half-cold, half-hot' on AO3. I guess being a non-profit passion project, helped it avoid some of the tired tropes present in big budget stuff.
@@pumpkin2986 Hey, good writing is good writing. Thanks for the tip!
@@johnathonhaney8291 true :) btw. I remembered the title slightly wrong, its: Half-Cold, Half-Warm Bodies
I don't know why, but this running zombie never cease to amuse me.
In the back of your mind you're probably wondering why they're so spry beneath all that rotting flesh.
4:05 I call bs on World War Z being the best zombie story.
The zombies there are somehow immune to overpressure (which can pulp and liquify humans) and shrapnel (the leading cause of death in industrial war), but somehow not immune to bullets. I also call bs on defense in depth (hold a position, then pull back to a safer position with our superior mobility) somehow not being an option.
They aren't "immune" to any of that stuff are they? Where did you even get that from? The explanation I remember is that zombie cleanup is hard because if an intact brain with functioning teeth survives, the disease has the potential to spread again over time. At a certain point you have to accept suspension of disbelief, if you're not willing to accept the basic principle of any given story... don't read it. Superman is about a guy who can fly and shoot lasers out of his eyes, and has cold breath and blah, blah, blah, World War Z is about a war with zombies? How do you want Max Brooks to fix this, give the zombies rocket launchers?
@@futurestoryteller zombies, biologically, can't even exist anyway. Especially with the "undead" take.
A horde of dead rotting flesh, constantly exposed to the elements, wouldn't be a thing because they'll just rot.
If you're agreeing with me through satirical commentary, good job.
@@futurestoryteller Because the overpressure caused by artillery and cannons are explicitly stated to be ineffective, and the zombies are somehow crawling around on seafloors which should crush them into slurry.
They are explicitly stated to be ineffective against a _hoard,_ they don't claim that shrapnel though an individual zombie brain isn't fatal. Have you ever seen that footage of an atomic blast, and there are whole sections of wall inexplicably still standing? There is never the suggestion, by my recollection that they are magically immune in any way beyond what you expect of _zombies._ That is to say: anything but the brain and they survive. As far as underwater pressure, aren't we already confused as to how other creatures survive at depth, doesn't it kind of depend on what depth we're talking about? More importantly, isn't this exactly what I said it was - you simply refusing to suspend the base amount of disbelief. You're _already_ dealing with flesh eating zombies, I'd say if these nipticks are enough to rattle you, then your standards are... inconsistent
Wow. That analysis at the end of why zombie films are scary is BRILLIANT. O_O
Just finished binging all 4 seasons of the walking dead game when this was uploaded, very fitting.
Still the finest incarnation of the franchise Walking Dead, though I will never forgive Telltale on how they did their employees.
Personally I'm more upset that I bought parts 1&2 on PS3, so my hope of finishing the series from my original files died extremely quickly.
Dude, this video managed to answer a question I've asked myself for years
Do one about historical settings and based on a true story works
6:07
Nurgle: *has joined the chat*
Nurgle is more like:
Gifts for everyone!
That one guy papa nurgle bless
That one guy
Poopoo nurgle
That one guy
nurgle goes poo poo
"We're Alive!" actually stands up pretty well against almost all of these cliches.
Besides zombies from the zombie apocalypse, there are also zombies made by necromancers in fantasy worlds.
"fungus among us" did jp just predict the future