Is it too LATE?!? - HP Spectre X360 laptop
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HP Spectre X360 16" 2-in-1 laptop has everything we ever wanted in the laptop... except for the fact that it's a bit too late because this has an Intel 11th gen. But, hopefully, they will continue this trend and release it in a 12th gen or, better, a Ryzen 6000 series processor???
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 - EXTREME!!!
0:26 - Unboxing
0:55 - Exterior impressions
1:54 - Sponsor - MSI!
2:20 - Turning it on
2:40 - Specs
3:03 - Intel processor thoughts
3:40 - Is HP too late?
4:05 - Pricing information
4:13 - Screen size impressions
4:50 - Keyboard and trackpad impressions
5:33 - OLED impressions
6:15 - Build quality
6:25 - Webcam and software features
7:56 - Speaker impressions
8:41 - Display impressions
9:09 - Gaming impressions
10:10 - Rubber risers thoughts
10:38 - Repairability impressions
11:30 - Final thoughts - Věda a technologie
7:48, definitely a gimmick, but I think the intended use case would be "Looking at personal information in public" (while protected by PIA, obviously ;) ), not "Looking at images in public". At least from how the camera captured it, it does a pretty good job of hiding TEXT, so it would help protect you from somebody looking at your banking information or something, but probably wouldn't save you if you were looking at something nsfw in public and somebody looked over your shoulder.
definitely
When you see Alex you know it's LAPTOP TIME 😁
For it’s more like “when i see laptops i know it’s Alex time”
Or it's jank throw some stuff together and hope it works time 🤣🤣
Or jank!
LOL you are right guys😂
Or he's about to commit critical psychic damage to all mechanical engineers in the audience
0:50 Current USB-C PD protocol only supports up to 100W of power, that’s probably why HP didn’t use it on their primary power port.
Dell does have a Type-C adapter that supports 130W of power but it's "non-standard" and doesn't work with any other brand. Technically HP can do similar.
@@essamal-mansouri2689 Which defeats the whole purpose of using type-C connectors.
The USB EPR standard allows for 240w, apple uses this standard on their 140w charging MacBook pro
@agentcrm Why would it defeat the purpose? It still works exactly like any other type-c port, with the bonus of also charging through it.
If the laptop has a usb-c port on both sides, I can't overstate how awesome it is to be able to change the side on which you charge. That is seriously the only reason I care about usb-c charging at all lol
@@AndreiTache problem is that most laptops with 2 type C only allow charging from one, Lmao
Since basically everyone is using a 2-in-1 for pen writing in school/uni nowadays, it'd be really cool if you could make a video about how good stylus support is for writing, palm rejection etc. on the popular products like spectre x360, surface studio/pro, xps 2in1, lenovo yogas, etc. It's surprisingly hard to find any good videos that explore this topic in depth. A lot of students would be very glad if you did.
I also have problems with HP's rubber feet strips coming off. I think they might use it as an indicator that the user removed the screws underneath.
Yeah I have HP Envy and in a few months the rubber feet fell off. :( And I cannot even find them as spare parts...
@@michaloravec6431 And I thought HP was competent in higher price-ranges...
I got a fairly cheap HP and it's plagued by that exact same problem (among other "design flaws" also present in other laptops of the same model)
I had a Spectre x360 15 repaired a year ago (the battery had died two months before the warranty ended) - early 2019 spec - and after I got it back, one of the rubber strips didn't hold well, especially after intensive workload (playing games). I'm pissed the authorized service didn't clean the residue glue and use a completely new strip, it's difficult to spread it evenly. I had to cut the strip to fit in the groove.
i used to work in hp support i belive you can ask from them to send you new feet if you still have warranty and their policy haven't changed
@@michaloravec6431 You can find bottom covers (with feet) at Hp parts dealers, but $$
As someone who has owned many laptops that charge via type C, I like the older barrel charge ports. In my experience they're much more durable.
At my job everyone is absolutely hating the USB-C charging ports on our new laptops, it's just too fragile for industrial environments.
I like Lenovo´s squared charger at the back of the laptop. It´s less intrusive
I have this on my current laptop, definitely wouldn't pick a laptop with usb c charging again. Maybe going to go for a thick thinkpad.
I quite agree.
Mobile phone USB C seem to last 3 years of daily use. My laptop is 12 years old and the barrel ports is still going.
I would actively avoid a laptop that only came with USB charging.
Yep, USB-C is mechanically weak and when you break it, not just the port, but also the charging IC usually goes with it... Good luck to your pocket there. 💰
That wobbly screen would drive me nuts. Why is it every HP has wobbly hinges?
With the “awake on approach” feature, does that not mean your camera is going to be on all the time when you’re away from your computer? Or at least has the ability to access it whenever it wants?
I think only the IR sensors will be on, not the camera itself, but I could be wrong
At the very least some sort of distance sensor, which might also be lower power than actually using a normal camera.
It is the IR sensor. Same thing in any Windows laptop that has Windows Hello support for facial authentication
Great question and it would've been cool if they had discussed potential security issues in the video.
@@rikwisselink-bijker I don't think they are commenting about the power. It's about security and privacy.
Does anyone else notice how much screen wobbles when he’s just using the laptop
Those hinges are going to break in under a year.
@@JUSTKOZ stop spewing bs please
screen wobbles when you move the laptop, not type on it so it's good enough for regular use
@@omegamalkior1874 I disagree. If you look at the laptop while they are just speaking about it, it wobbles a LOT!
@@wololomonk my guy, I own one and know what I'm talking about. Buy it yourself and have a taste. If it bothers you that much then return it. Unless you constantly have a seizure when typing with your laptop which causes it to move 24/7 in use, you will not be bothered by it
10:10 - This is my number one complaint with my HP Spectre x360 14". The rubber feet have started coming off in a month and a half, it's impossible to find the exact part number for the 14", and there's just not a lot of options due to it being a strip vs a circular pad design
Have you tried hp part surfer?
I have the same issue with my envy x360 13". One of the strips started coming off after about half a year, the other one is still mostly fine. After trying to reattach it with various glues, I just slapped a long strip of adhesive tape over it for now. Which, of course, kinda defeats the "grippy" nature of the rubber foot and makes the laptop slide around a lot more.
Had this with my spectre a few years ago, and combined with the crappy trackpad drivers they had back then I sold it asap
I saw other people in the comments saying they called support and were able to get replacements sent for free if the device is under warranty. I don't have one but it seems PERFECT other than that. How much do you notice it?
@@musaty6528 It's noticable as once it starts to peel it will catch everytime it goes in or out of the bag and when you try to set it up on whatever surface you're using. I at first tried using super glue and the hot glue, either work as the previous adhesive is still there and prevents it from really sticking. Going to be calling support sooner than later
That lock and return feature should be on the Omen series. Maybe if they make a more premium Omen than their current lineup they can implement the Glemcam in it as well.
Love when Alex does laptop videos still looking for mine:)
Your content is very informative while being fun to watch keep it up.
I appreciate that!
@@ShortCircuit What would be a better pickup the iPad Pro 12.9 m1 or the go spectre x360 with 3k display ips. I mainly watch videos?
@@Johnmims65 ipad
@@nerdsuper1514 ok
If they manage to include a 32GB version for 12th gen that uses LPDDR5, I'll give them a pass for soldering the RAM because IIRC, there is no standard for low-power SODIMMs. If they manage to include DDR5 RAM slots and USB-EPR in that revision, I'll be DOUBLY impressed.
That’s a distracting amount of display wobble when there’s any mousing going on
Yes super annoying considering it is $2000
I see that shoulder surfing feature becoming a huge drawer for businesses. Especially if they can force it on.
They have it already since a very long time.. something close to it at least - HP SureView is meant to do the same, just not automatically.
"drawer" ? Illiteracy abounds.
Still waiting for 12th gen Intel laptops :(
There is a 32 GB option but you have to get the OLED screen with it
Can confirm about the rubber feet... I and my sister-in-law both own the HP Envy (Ryzen 4500U and 4700U), and the rear rubber feet came off after 6 or so months. Annoying, but still great laptops. These envy and spectre laptops are top-shelf in their class of product, and great all-around machines.
⭐️ Great Video.
I always find myself smiling when you’re hosting, you radiat positive energy. 👍
I have a previous version of the 14" version and it's great. This seems like a solid upgrade. You guys identified all the key gripes. The long rubber strip is annoying AF when it comes off (mine is still fine but a friend had hers come off). Mine has USB-C with PD and Thunderbolt 3 on all three ports and it's great. I don't see why they didn't keep up with that. A full-sized HDMI port is great and very handy on the road, but the proprietary power connector means losing a USB-C Thunderbolt plug, which is a step down IMO. Upgradable memory seems like a must-have these days; for that much $$$ I want to be able to throw some more RAM in and get another year or two out of it.
I will miss the Brown/Copper look: very classy. The over-the-shoulder screen thing actually comes in handy for me when I'm looking at personal/confidential information while at a coffee shop and I like that they added a way to turn it on automatically when needed. I do wish there was a hotkey for screen blanking. Do they still have a hardware switch on the webcam for privacy? That was a great idea IMO. I'm also curious about the fingerprint sensor, which in my version works about 40% of the time.
BTW you asked why not an AMD chip. Isn't Thunderbolt still Intel-only? I love AMD but not enough to give up Thunderbolt and PD. I use my Spectre with a dock and it's epic: one plug and I get power, webcam, microphone, headphones, keyboard, mouse and a nice big monitor. It's surprising just how much I enjoy having one plug vs 2-3 to attach every time I get home. The better screen is nice but I downgraded to 1080p on purpose to get even more battery life (it already has plenty as is but there's never enough IMO). I do wish there was a keyboard cover for when I flip it into tablet mode, but... yeah I know.
It seems like this version adds most of the things I wanted out of the 2020 version: a decent GPU, (some) repairability, and a full size HDMI port instead of requiring a dongle.
I love seeing the ripple effect that the Framework has already had. Look how much more repairable this thing is!
HP, at least in recent years, hasn't been horrendous. I've had a 13" one for over a year now (definitely before Framework was shipping laptops I'm pretty sure) and a bunch of the components were replaceable and they even had video guides on how to do it.
You guys purposefully skipped on
" Attention tracking " that's a dystopian thing.
I have an envy 14 and I had to disasemble to clean the fan and that meant removing the strips. You can buy replacement ones but i actually didnt find it that hard to put them back i just needed to buy good doulbe sided tape.
I'm really impressed with the specs and how they keep it very repairable while doing so. Great job to their engineers on that part!
Keep up the good content, always love Alex's reviews as well.
And how exactly are they keeping it very repairable? Any facts to support your argument or you're just blindly repeating Alex's marketing BS?
@@bb69bb Of course I did, this is why I'm asking for arguments (not arguing). What exactly about this laptop is so amazingly engineered that it deserved to be praised so much?
@@bb69bb After *literally* thousands of laptops since 2008, I'm yet to witness a laptop camera that isn't just a tiny PCB module connected to the motherboard via a cable. Only exception would be an Apple product that has the entire screen frame glued shut. Just as for the rest of the laptop parts, unless HP silently released schematics and started selling individual components to everyone, a.k.a. support Right to Repair, Alex's claim is, intentionally or not, complete bollocks. Even worse - the RAM here is just memory chips soldered to the motherboard, so if (when) it fails, you throw the whole MB, instead of just changing a RAM stick (module) like with the other 99% laptops. 👀 I'm baffled by this video from such a "reputable" outlet.
@@em0_tion
HP Spectre's x360's maintenance & serivce guide is downloadable on-line. You can Google it yourself or I can forward the link to you.
HP also list laptop parts and spare part numbers on their website. As for getting the parts, you can contact HP or Google laptopinventory.
HP ain't Apple, now delete your silly post...lol
@@noneofyourbusiness6100 Very pink way of looking at it. My point remains solid - absolutely nothing differentiates HP from the bunch in terms of repairability. Everybody sells modules and no one provides board layouts and schematics. HP also forbids manufacturers from selling board level components to 3rd parties/users. What good are these PNs doing for us when a $5 charging IC burns and the only thing you can buy is a whole motherboard that costs a limb? $500 just for the part? 👀 Any sane customer will laugh at us on the way out of the repair shop. 😂 And that's exactly what these corps want, hence - "Right to Repair". If things were so easy and black & white as you make it out to be, we wouldn't need the legislation.
P.S.: "HP ain't Apple"? Huh? Never said it was. 🙄
The lock on walk away and wake on approach feature has been done by Lenovo long ago. They even have it in $700 laptops such as the Yoga/Ideapad Slim 7. They call it Zero Touch Login and Lock.
Why only your Lenovo?
@@horsthorst11 Its not in every lenovo as it requires the IR sensor + ToF sensor.
I have the last mode HP spectre from 2018 and it still works very well.
00:30 love to see you guys keeping the tradition alive
The "Sunday! Sunday! Sunday!" opening is a win. :D
That shoulder surf blur function is a really good idea, it's just horribly implemented here, lol. Maybe if it actually blurred the image instead of just making it fuzzy but still easy to tell what you are looking at?
I love that opening energy from Alex.
The same thing happened with the rubber strips on the bottom of my HP Envy as well - both came off after just a couple months.
I bought a HP Envy like 7 years ago and even back then had the exact same stupid rubber foot strips that you had to remove to open the chassis but that didn’t really matter cause they fall off on their own anyway. How have they been doing that awful design for so long? So terrible.
HP is doing a good job with the Spectre (except for the rubber feet - I had the same issue after a battery-related RMA). I'm gonna upgrade my Spectre x360 sometime late next year, probably 14" (I don't need 15.6"/16" anymore) and hopefully with Meteor Lake.
If the rubber feet come off, the solution is simple. You can put almost any glue, although I used the silicone glue for cell phones from aliexpress "T-7000" there are several brands but they all do the same.
By the way, I did this with my HP envy laptop, it fits very well, the glue is thin and firm, it is not noticeable. But if your laptop has screws under those rubber bands, you will not be able to put the glue on it for obvious reasons (in this case, you would have to use double-sided adhesive tape, although it is not perfect and there is a risk that the rubber bands will break in half if you you try to pull out when the adhesive is strong)
damn, I was just about to pull the trigger on this one on the OLED screen because I love how OLEDs look. But thanks for the recommendation. I'm going to hold off until ryzen 6000 or 12th gen gets to it.
I've had an x360 envy 13 incher and the SAME rubber foot is on there and it ALSO came off.
I just bought one of those about a month ago almost exactly as speced here (I got it at about $1300 WITH the oled because of their pre-12th gen clearance sale), and I'm really happy I got it before the 12th gen refresh. While the 12th gen processors are miles better, it also comes with an Intel A370M dedicated graphics, which (from what I've heard) are nowhere near as good as the 3050 mobile, even ignoring the frequent driver issues and display problems with the new card. Overall, the refresh is more like 1 step forward and 1 step back. If they kept the 3050, I'm sure it would be perfect. So if anyone's looking to buy it, I HEAVILY recommend it.
I didn't have issues with the feet coming off, but I did take them off after a couple of months to swap out the SSD (the one in the 13" one I have was garbage and vastly improved even with just a cheapish WD NVME 1TB drive.) But it was impossible to get them back in, I resorted to using super glue but it didn't really work. You can buy replacement strips from HP though I think.
That is a wild amount of screen shaking while typing, I don't know if I could live with it.
Do a video wher you rip apart the laptop speakers and identify them by brand and model number, and which laptops they are in.
I'd love to see the 12 gen intel version with 32 GB RAM
Thanks fpr your great Infos. I got Dell XPS 15 9510 i7, the HP Spectre 16 12th gen and Dell Inspiron 7506 black edition, all of them are amazing laptops, though the webcam by the dell sucks :,)
Just clicked bcz its 2 in 1 i think 2 in 1s are underrated and companies should make more of them and at competitive pricing
I got a spectre 2 years ago. I don't have many complaints except for the rubber strips and the hinge. The strips just fall off after a while and the hinge loses its stiffness after a few months, and that's on me not using it that much.
Isn't the type C connector only rated for 100W? So HP really didn't have a choice?
I think soo too
USB 4 PD allows for up to 240 W
Dell and a few other manufacturers have implemented type c at over 100w. The XPS 15 has a 130w brick, for example. Extended power range (240w) should be available pretty soon but for now the spec is 100w
yeah but dell for example did laptops with 130w charging via type c. It's proprietary but it works afaik.
@@G33kyAli did that come in consumer devices? It's a pretty new standard. So i think it'll take time
Love the intro - " I felt violent this morning."
2:58 That SSD icon really does look like a graphics card
Loving the jay2cents music
My hp also deals with same problem with rubber bottom. It's annoying and cannot glued i tried many things non of em worked. Good to know I'm not the only one suffering from this
Is that the Donut Media logo on Alex's laptop screen @4:14 ? I spent the morning listening to their podcasts.
Good first look! Although gimmickyish, the added camera features are quite cool!
The wobbling screen is pretty disturbing. Lol
Great review as always!
that moment when you work at hp and you watch this this man took out the box like that...
Bought this laptop 2 months ago. Had to return it due to touch screen issues. Touch function stopped working completely and windows 11 could not even detect the touch screen feature. HP failed to fix it via software as they thought it was a driver issue.
The background music gives me Jaystwocents vibes.
I really love how HP and Dell are really pushing each other with each generation of Spectre/XPS!
I've had 2 decent hp laptops back to back and I find the batteries terrible, I used the first laptop for like not even 1.5 years and the battery was already dead and on the other one the battery was already dead at a half year of use.
I have an Envy x360 15" and I know what you mean by rubber feet being bad, I have resorted to keeping a roll of double sided tape in my toolbag; keeps the rubber on but it's stretched
No point, take it off and replace with a long streak from a hot melt glue gun. Done right - it's rock solid for years, no slips. 😉
is he not observing the wobbly hinge? it feels like it's headbanging on a metal concert
Love your unboxing!
I love how this laptop looks and now that 12th gen Intel promises good battery life I can finally justify getting this over an envy... When it hopefully comes out
Intel has been completely silent on 12th Gen battery life which means, it ain't that good.
It will be interesting to see some art focused reviews on this.
I just checked, there is a 32 gb RAM upgrade available; however it forces you to have an OLED screen
So thankful my Spectre x360 13” came with a 65w USB-C plug
The screen shakes so much when typing!
2:57 icon for NVME is a graphics Card
Love how Alex always ask Jono for validation
I hated those combo jacks... You can't find a quality adapter for older headphone sets at normal prices
This is so hard to find now with these options.
You guys should compare HP and Dell driver update software and support services it's a night and day difference for me at least.
Alex.... I use word and excel in dark mode.... So white oled grain... Not an issue outside of some websites who still don't work with dark extensions
2:59 that‘s an icon for a display card, not SSD on the bottom row
I'll never go near another HP. I spent 6 months getting them to honour their warranty for a one month old Pavilion with a bad cooling fan. It was eventually fixed...after an _amazing_ amount of BS to wade through, including HP wanting me to ship the laptop overseas for them (at my expense), and one case manager simply deciding to refuse the warranty claim without actually letting me know, in the hopes that the problem (me) would magically disappear - only to have the new fan stop working 9 months later when the warranty had run out. Never again.
My girlfriend is going through something similar right now. Her laptop keeps crashing on her, and the power button doesn't work unless she spams it a few times(right from the start).
But HP support was giving her bullshit suggestions like running their diagnostics, and restoring it to a previous state. Although it doesn't take a genius to see that when it's a problem that was there from the start, restoring to a previous state isn't gonna do shit. And they refuse to fix her power button, coz technically, it's working, isnt it?
Never buying another laptop from those guys.
I have had HP laptops for over 10 years, and have not had any warranty problems. Also, HP is the 2nd largest laptop maker in the world and their primary customers are corporations, education, and government. So clearly others seem not to have any problems as well.
Went to HP to check it out in some more detail and there is a 32GB ram option.
Can you some Shorts of the HP Spectre's speaker vs some MacBook's?
Has the 11390H been refreshed/fixed? Is this worth buying now? I don't know that much about CPUs.
I love Alex's and linus's reviews. They know when its time to be funny and not.
Alex goin full how to basic mode.
Is the OLED version even available in HP Canada online store? I can’t find it at all...
I an not a gamer and trying to decide between this HP x360 Spectre or the Dell XPS 15 for just normal everyday use of web surfing, Microsoft Suite (Word, Excel, PowerPoint, OneDrive, Note, etc), watching CZcams, movies. Looking for 32gb ram since that will like be the normal in a couple of years. Which one would you recommend?
Please sir, will you cover the 2022 refresh 12th gen arc dgpu refresh? 🥺
alex is so canadian, the way he says charging, rtx, processor, start, anything with an r. eyar
Does anyone know when the 12th gen intel or AMD 6000 series HP ENVY x360 is getting released? 🤔
I can only guess they stopped at 16 gb of ram that way they wouldn't have to worry about further cooling with a 32gb model
I personally like the grainy oled thingy as looks paperlike..
I love my 13 inch oled spectre 360. They did allot right. I love the display. I would like to see them put in an AMD processor in a revised version. Go for ultimate power efficiency and performace trade off. Drop in an hdmi port and it is the ultimate refresh.
Funny, the tech industry finally realizes we like ports. The addition of a usb-a port and touchscreen has made my laptop so much more usefull than any mac. I use the usb a port almost every day. I feel apple could do this better than anyone, they just dont. They also have arguably the best chips on the market.
Can we stop using type-A now please and move on to type-C from now on.
@@conheo4 USB-A is the RS-232 of the 80s. It'll never die, and industries will continue to use it well into it's obsolescence because it just works. But now that wireless is catching on, I don't think we'll ever see USB-C in peripherals like we did USB 2.0. At least it has a place as the defacto standard for power & data for many laptops and phones. Those multi-sized barrel jacks were evil! Especially when they required a non-standard voltage.
@@stephennorth9529 Nothing is perfect. Those "evil jacks" are at least mechanically strong, unlike the fragile USB-C. And when they break, you change them easily. Try that with those puny USB-C ports and their blown charging ICs if you're "lucky"... complete nightmare. Let's hope we get a USB4 protocol on a Lightning-like connectors soon for all our sake. 🤞
Emiliyan Yankov very true, and with the licensing costs of thunderbolt... yeah USB-A sure has its place as a robust connection
Jay's two cents music baby
Was that a type C tucked into the base corner by the charging port?
Would this be overkill for 4k video editing? Kinda want to avoid proxies aswell
Love the JayzTwoCents music
On the website the link at least as far as I could tell.. isn't a computer with the rtx 3050... it only came with integrated graphics on the Intel chip... what's up with that?
Huh? As you said in the beginning and from the looks the HP has a 16/10 display, and at 4:12 you said both are 16/9 and you wonder why the HP looks bigger?
(using the / as a seperator to not confuse YT)
No one:
Me: admiring the deep blacks of the OLED screen on my phone’s LCD screen
2:56 Oops! You have used the graphics card logo for the storage of the laptop
What's the difference between OLED and Samsung's AMOLED? cuz i have no idea what graininess you mean, and I've been using notes since the 3 came out and using the Galaxy Chromebook 4k daily
the screen wobbles a lot,the lid flexes.
Waiting for this in ryzen 6000 config. The only alternative I see is the ROG X13 but... Well, it's 13'...
no one pointed out the NVME icon is a graphics card at the specs when they're shown ? lol
when is the updated version coming out you think?
How is the heat on this one? The one I got from 2020 has terrible heat issues just from basic running