Theres a small throw away line You’re minding “You don’t go home unless you help me.” That being said, Barry is saying if you don’t help me here, that Barry will wake up and tell your Barry about the letter in the suit regardless It’s a nice way to cement that if you don’t help, you’re never going home (even though he doesn’t go home but he don’t know that)
@@megatronusorionpax4900 Yep, except the Barry that is cuffed to the chair, had supposedly left letter to his past self, telling him how to defeat Thawne, so either Thawne helps him, or his plan gets ruined. Same goes here, either help or he will destroy your plan
That would be hilarious but there wouldn’t be a way to fit that in because this Barry would see that Barry and the other Barry would wake up and see Barry,Barry,Nora and Thawne and the other Barry would still be knocked out and would see Barry Barry Barry Nora and thawne,this is the best comment I’ve ever written
@@bluevegito-6979 exactly!! The final season can't be all seriousness and doom and gloom, they gotta have some wacky fun moment like this that makes zero sense because that's what The Flash has always been, the side of the Arrowverse that you just turn your brain off to and enjoy because it's cool comic book shit, it doesn't need to make sense always
I love the fact that after all this time, even tho Barry is a complete different person, more mature and wise, he still looks at Thawne with pure hate and disgust.
There's another part to this that most people don't take into consideration. Despite Barry's overwhelming hatred for Thawne, and the simple thought of being in the same room with him is enough to set his teeth on edge, Barry knows that Thawne is the ONLY person with enough knowledge and experience with time travel, Barry's enemies, and the nature of the Speed Force, that it becomes almost necessary for Barry to rely on him as a mentor and teacher.
Previous timeline Upon meeting Nora in 2015, Eobard realized that she was Barry's daughter and asked if her name was Dawn. When Nora corrected him, Thawne realized that his actions in the year 2000 had changed the timeline and inspired the West-Allen couple to name their daughter after Barry's late mother.
@@havewissmart9602 lol yeah well when you’re as obsessed with someone as Thawne is then people your obsession is close to also become a point of obsession.
@@deadpooldan9862No. In original timeline Nora wasn't killed and Barry became Flash much later (in 2019, if i am not mistaken). But Reverse Flash from this original timeline killed Nora and started infinite time loop
I reckon thawne, this thawne knows full well he won't win a race/fight against this Barry, but he's still the reverse flash so he still withholds the portrayel that he thinks he can. Absolutely amazing acting I love it
Nope. He holds himself higher because he has already figured out a way to torture and outsmart Barry. He knows now that he can use Nora later in the future.
Yeah when Season 5 Barry said "Way later" to confirm he was significantly older than the version tied to the chair, he was essentially threatening Thawne. Season 2 Barry tried to pretend to be Season 1 Barry from that time, which confirmed to Thawne that Season 2 Barry wasn't confident he could take him in a straight fight. But Season 5 Barry walked right in and confirmed it's been a few years. Therefore Thawne knows that Season 5 Barry is confident he can curb stomp him. So Thawne tries to put up a show of them being on equal footing, but not once does he make a physically threatening move, unlike with Season 2 Barry, who he was a second away from killing until Season 2 Barry blackmailed him.
@@aomaito5549 Actually at this point he hadn't. It was only when Barry said it was Nora's idea to use Savitar's suit as part of the tech to destroy Cicada's dagger that he knew. He'd already assessed that Nora wasn't smart enough to come up with something like that on her own. But he was. It was only in that scene that he knew he was essentially working alongside his future self.
They really did Thawne justice in this series. Reverse-Flash is by far the Flash’s most formidable enemy. But what makes him scarier than the others is how brilliant he is. The gravity of their relationship was played out so well in this scene just by the facial expressions of both Barry and Norah. Norah knows who Thawne is mostly by what she’s read and you see the sheer fear when she’s face to face with this version of him, which is much different from the older Thawne in her time period. While Barry’s expression is just pure hatred, anger and disgust at the guy who killed his mother, betrayed him and has pledged his life to making his a living hell. Barry’s disgust is knowing that he unwittingly allowed his mother’s killer to befriend him and train him. All for selfish reasons.
What elevates it further is how we saw season 2 Barry's demeanor play out versus his season 5. Granted (pun intended) he was in a more desperate position in season 2 compared to 5; however that hatred is still there with a higher of confidence and honesty. He doesn't lie to Thawne, he doesn't appeal to him, and his ego. He matches his energy completely.
@@sajibchowdhurysultan6041 Because Barry pulled Thawne out of the timeline when he created Flashpoint, Thawne is a living paradox. The older Thawne Nora knows, idk how he’s alive considering the paradox Thawne was killed by Black Flash in Legends, and the older Thawne is the one who died when Eddie killed himself and remembers both everything that happened in season 1 and Legends season 2. As for Nora, she ran back in time to meet her dad because he died in Crisis before the timeline changed, she didn’t want to kill him, but she also didn’t know that Thawne killed her grandma and ruined her dad’s life
@@sajibchowdhurysultan6041 because Barry played god, ran back and forth in different points of time, interact with Thawne in many instances, and intervened him from killing Nora and getting stuck (or, in other word, made Thawne chose differently). Then a version of Thawne didn't go back in time to kill Barry because he knew he would fail anyway, proceed to move on into the Thawne that interacted with Nora West. Remember the Thawne he imprisoned when he tried to save his mother in season 3, that version of Thawne didn't get to kill Nora, didn't get stuck, never grew care for team Flash, never died by the hand of direct un-existing effect.
Pretty well done scene, love how nora is just terrified of thawne and barry doesn't even flinch because he is so battle hardended from their fights, plus his personal hatred for thawne.
I miss this Thawne. THe one that doesn't hate Barry for a petty reason. The one who tells you that his hatred for Barry has a deeper reason in the show's Flashpoint. The one who is more like a hated frenemy to Barry. Instead of that absolute bs of a 'Thawne' that we saw in season eight
@@reaper7910 CW Thawne is very comic accurate in terms of personality and reasoning, throughout the show they use a couple retcon versions of Thawne's origins, they mostly stayed true to the character in this show compared to everyone else including Barry himself. The only thing that makes him unique then most comic versions of Reverse Flash is The Harrison Wells aspect and The Professor Zoom disconnect.
@@marxist-leninist-protagonist Yes in comics Zoom was just another name for Reverse Flash except it was Professor Zoom not just Zoom. My guess is CW Zoom is probably based on the other guy to take the Zoom Mantle Hunter Zoloman.
What's awesome about this scene for me is Barry purposely shows that he has his Flash Ring now just like how Thawne has his Reverse Flash Ring. Which in the comics is when Barry has the most experience he's fought Thawne many times. It shows how far he's really come and that he could beat him in a fight, the reason OG timeline Barry "lost" the night his mom died was because he was preoccupied with saving his Younger self and thought after the fight Thawne would leave.
@@SkykunDA I agree but that's for the show to create conflict. But I'm talking about in the comics Barry has his ring that holds his costume, which in the show wasn't supposed to happen for a few more years especially if Barry wasn't supposed to get his powers till the 2020's. So if that's how powerful he's become where he's caught up to his comic book counter part he should be worried.
Yup. In the original timeline, Barry's mom was alive at the time his daughter was born, and he and Iris just pick a random name. In this timeline, his mother is long dead and Barry decides to name his child after his late mother. That's why Thawne says "Boy! Nora... time travel is so weird."
Very intense scene. Barry introduced Thawne to his future daughter to get help from the only person that could do it. But if you think about it more, Barry essentially made a deal with the devil and traded the life of his first born as Thawne is the ultimate evil in his life. The parallel is very strong here.
god man when grant and tom are on screen together its fucking magic. i know the DC universe and the flash are a bright show and i love that so much but just imagine if these guys did a dark version of the flash
They are truly electrifying on screen together. That confusing blend of mentor and mentee, villain and hero, rivals, plus the twisted hero worship Thawne once had for the Flash and Barry used to have for Thawne/Wells. And the way he says 'You've brought me your daughter', it sounds almost grateful, almost like 'You've brought me one more thing I can take away from you to make our hatred go deeper'. It's all so twisted and delightful and pure electricity when they're on screen together.
@@Cosmicmorales brought it back full circle the last 3 last seasons were trash but had their moments but I’m super thrilled they brought it back full circle 9x10
Previous timeline Upon meeting Nora in 2015, Eobard realized that she was Barry's daughter and asked if her name was Dawn. When Nora corrected him, Thawne realized that his actions in the year 2000 had changed the timeline and inspired the West-Allen couple to name their daughter after Barry's late mother.
Jessica Parker Kennedy's acting in this scene is so layered, playing Nora, in her words, as seemingly completely oblivious to who Thawne is, while her eyes betray her recognition. There's also her unease projected watching his and Barry's hostile interactions. Having been so used to seeing him in the future as, if not good, at least benevolent and helpful to her, seeing this evil side of Thawne, what made him the Flash's archenemy, for the first time, is so jarring for Nora.
This will forever be in my top 3 favorite (Thawne in general)/ Reverse Flash moment both Tom and Matt who play Thawne play his intimidation very differently but I actually like that bc not every version of Barry from whenever in the timeline has to think or act the exact same bc it’s different periods in his life time
Fun Fact: Thawne said that Barry's daughter is named Dawn but her name is Nora however in the comics XS' name is Jenni who is actually Barry's grandaughter along with his grandson, Bart and Barry's daughter is named Dawn along with his son, Don and Don and Dawn are the Tornado Twins
I like the detail that Nora is afraid of Thawne's angry ourbursts but they dont faze (or phase 😉) Barry. Barry is used to Thawne at this point and isnt afraid of him, while Nora has probably never had to face off agaisnt someone so evil and villanous, or at least that she knows Thawne to be from Barry's point of view, as she doesnt know what Thawne had done to Barry's life until after this
Thawne comes from the timeline in which Harrison Wells creates the flash in 2024. So when he decided to go back and kill Nora Allen i think that was always meant to happen in every timeline, but what wasnt supposed to happen is that Thawne loses his speed at the begining making him create the flash in 2014-15. When he did that he changed everything because barry was still supposed to be awake making him be avle to be with iris in the 9 month coma whicj was originally meant to happen which says that og barry married Iris much later than Barry and he would become the flash in 2024 so he qould start his adventures with Cisco and Harrison Wells-1 at that point. Which explains why a much more older self than barry is there but with the og suit from season 2. Point being, Thawne changed the timeline but he remains immune to the changes meaning he can be unaware of them to a meaningful extent. This change in the timeline is what made him aware so he got informed when he saved himself after the ending of S1. Which started the cicada plan to destroy the dagger using Nora. All he had to do was make sure Barry dissapeared, be in prision at the same time nora got her powers so he could mentor her. Thawne is truly a genious. I still dont understand how he survived, i understand flashpoint thawne fought the legends and was killed by black flash meanwhile season 2 thawne is the one that comes to fight barry at his house and get trapped in the past
2020* On the flashback where Thawne made the car accident of Harrison Wells and his wife, he told him while preparing the device that will change his appearance to Wells' that he turned the Particle Accelerator successfully in 2020, no further word if that still created metahumans or not.
Gideon said "Your latest time jump against the flash" it means he time traveled a lot already. His another jump was in S2E11 when he said "I finally figured out what time period you're from, Flash" that was Thawne from the future maybe trying to discover who the flash actually is before he killed his mother. He may have other journeys too.
I am pretty shure that you are wrong. The only reason why thawne lost his speed is, that barry doesnt become the flash because thawne killed his mother. So after that he takes over wells body to create the flash to get back his speed and to get back home in his orignal timeline and he does it much faster. so barry gets to be the flash earlier just because thawne wants to get home. so the flash we know is not the original timeline flash. In the original timeline Wells1 creates the flash in the year 2020 and ca 130 years later thawne works at the flash museum after the flash is long dead and tries to become the flash but. Thorugh time travel he gets to know, that he is destined to become the flashes arch enemy the reverse flash. Sorry for bad english There is also a video from the channel DC Comics arrorverse that explains the timeline of the reverseflash with the name "reverseflash timeline explained" and he does it up to season 8. So if you didnt get what I mean you can look up this video.
Moments like this are great but seeing the original Nora makes me so sad. And then angry that the writers think that just because Joe said letting thawne die wouldn’t be a nice thing to do that Barry would save him. He ERASED his daughter from existence TWICE. No way Joe wouldn’t understand that, Thawnes laundry list is way too long to ever even consider him worthy of life
Dude, all 3 of the actors in this scene are fucking fantastic. Barry looks furious talking to Thawne Thawne is both furious and a little delighted because he knows that he has the opportunity to fuck Barry's life just a little more Both of them seem like old, bitter enemies who know eachother better than they've ever known another human being. And then there's Nora, looking absolutely terrified because she's meeting the person who was no doubt her childhood bogey man face to face.
Except its revealed later that nora already met Thawne and that the Future Thawne was the only reason she even learned how to time travel, because he taught her to so that she could see her dad, he manipulated her so he could escape.
TO be fair, I believe it's a valid point in saying that although Thawne hates the shit out of Barry, Thawne himself in the show says that he grew to love Barry while teaching him. So, it's not a stretch to say that they are frenemies at this point.
I would like to add, its also Nora seeing the hatred in barry, up until this point has been the hero, the ray of sunshine. And this shows the dark side no one talks about.
Could you imagine if Caitlin or cisco walking by and just hear thawne and Barry yelling inside and sees thawne Nora Barry 1 and 2 in the room how confused would they be lol
Even when Barry thinks he has the upper hand, Thawne is playing him for fools. Purposely arguing with Barry about who the device is for, knowing Nora would say, since she said her name with no fear. Knowing it was for Cicada then gave Thawne the ammunition to manipulate the timeline to free himself in the future, even if he didn't know he was going to be imprisoned.
I might be in the minority here but I do prefer Matt Letscher as Thawne. Reusing the actor for so many varient or otherwise roles makes me care less for the character
@@Verq... Tom does no question but in the few episodes Matt has been the reverse I felt he has given a stronger performance , alittle more variety. Tom was great as reverse at the beginning but it just felt less satisfying over time.
@@kevinfelix2543 I've stopped watching the show a long time ago, but just from memory: Whenever Matt Letscher played Thawne, it felt a bit disconnected. Not even through his acting, but simply because the entire Flash/RF dynamic was established with Tom. Matts RF always felt like a RF that isn't part of the shows timeline and just stumbles into it.
I liked both but you could definitely tell the showed relied more on Tom for convenience at times. Since Matt was the original body we shoulda seen him more
it's funny how you can see him displaying his full hate towards Barry, but none what so ever towards Nora. "I'm sorry where are my manors, would you like a cup of water." addressing Nora while seemingly ignoring Barry lmao.
So does this version of Thawne talk to Barry and Nora and then the younger future Barry goes on to have the same conversation we saw in season 2? It would mostly still fit just from Thawne being so confused about the whole thing. Barry coming back twice to the same point in history.
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I love how the first Barry convinces him he goes home and the second one loves to tell him he doesn’t go home
Thinking about it now since Thawne knows he won't go home he probably would've killed the other Barry when they left right?
Theres a small throw away line You’re minding
“You don’t go home unless you help me.”
That being said, Barry is saying if you don’t help me here, that Barry will wake up and tell your Barry about the letter in the suit regardless
It’s a nice way to cement that if you don’t help, you’re never going home (even though he doesn’t go home but he don’t know that)
@@megatronusorionpax4900 Yep, except the Barry that is cuffed to the chair, had supposedly left letter to his past self, telling him how to defeat Thawne, so either Thawne helps him, or his plan gets ruined. Same goes here, either help or he will destroy your plan
This just shows how he’s become stronger
@@darknite7 in the next season we will see a fourth Barry
I kinda hope that in the final season, we go back to this moment a 3rd time to finally mentally break Thawne
That would be hilarious but there wouldn’t be a way to fit that in because this Barry would see that Barry and the other Barry would wake up and see Barry,Barry,Nora and Thawne and the other Barry would still be knocked out and would see Barry Barry Barry Nora and thawne,this is the best comment I’ve ever written
@@bluevegito-6979 exactly!! The final season can't be all seriousness and doom and gloom, they gotta have some wacky fun moment like this that makes zero sense because that's what The Flash has always been, the side of the Arrowverse that you just turn your brain off to and enjoy because it's cool comic book shit, it doesn't need to make sense always
This would mentally break me.
@Bluevegito-69 😂😂
@Bluevegito-69 nah, they could just go in even earlier
"thats nice, at least you still have one" ☠️, 😂
Yeah 🤣🤣
SAVAGE
For now… 😈😈😈
What does that mean? I didnt understand
@@Caps22 he killed his mother who had the name nora
I love the fact that after all this time, even tho Barry is a complete different person, more mature and wise, he still looks at Thawne with pure hate and disgust.
I mean, he did kill his mother and Barry knew if he saved his mom, the whole timeline would collapse into nothingness.
There's another part to this that most people don't take into consideration. Despite Barry's overwhelming hatred for Thawne, and the simple thought of being in the same room with him is enough to set his teeth on edge, Barry knows that Thawne is the ONLY person with enough knowledge and experience with time travel, Barry's enemies, and the nature of the Speed Force, that it becomes almost necessary for Barry to rely on him as a mentor and teacher.
Previous timeline
Upon meeting Nora in 2015, Eobard realized that she was Barry's daughter and asked if her name was Dawn. When Nora corrected him, Thawne realized that his actions in the year 2000 had changed the timeline and inspired the West-Allen couple to name their daughter after Barry's late mother.
0:57 “you’ve brought me your daughter” mann that look gave me chills
Yeah it’s almost like Thawne is honored that his rival brought her before him.
I genuinely felt like saying 'PEDO ALERT!' even though Nora is a grown woman 😂😂😂
@@havewissmart9602 lol yeah well when you’re as obsessed with someone as Thawne is then people your obsession is close to also become a point of obsession.
Thawne was saying I am your worst enemy and you
brought your daughter to me guess what happen at the end of the season Nora disappear by Thawne
The fact that Thawne knew about Dawn already shows that he is from the comics/correct timeline we all know.
Well hes from the future far from this timeline
Aka the one where Barry’s mom wasn’t killed
@@adultishgambino1the only timeline where Barry’s mom wasn’t killed was Flashpoint, every other timeline, Thawne kills her
@@deadpooldan9862No. In original timeline Nora wasn't killed and Barry became Flash much later (in 2019, if i am not mistaken). But Reverse Flash from this original timeline killed Nora and started infinite time loop
@@user-jr4mc7kd8x not anymore, since the Barry of 2023 went to that night, and he didn’t vanish in Crisis, so this is the original timeline
god this scene is so good lmao this show would be nothing without Tom and Grant
You mean without the lead actor and one of the main cast actors who plays the villain?
@@FloBro31 yes nigga are you inept
@@holyjolias3229 Watch your mouth, cringe ass comment 🤣🤣
@@FloBro31 yep
@@FloBro31that’s what he just typed🤦♂️
2:14 that kick killed me 😂🗿
The sound tho😂
@@CallMeKariko 😂
The best part is how Barry just looks at him like, “motherfucker.”
He felt that kick in the future.
Thawne taking every chance he can to be petty.
"Time travels so weird.what do you want!?" LOL that line reading
I reckon thawne, this thawne knows full well he won't win a race/fight against this Barry, but he's still the reverse flash so he still withholds the portrayel that he thinks he can. Absolutely amazing acting I love it
Nope. He holds himself higher because he has already figured out a way to torture and outsmart Barry. He knows now that he can use Nora later in the future.
You're both worng. He can hold himself up, because it was him. He jerked Barry off at supersonic speed ... All part of the plan /s
@@aomaito5549 you missed my entire point
Yeah when Season 5 Barry said "Way later" to confirm he was significantly older than the version tied to the chair, he was essentially threatening Thawne. Season 2 Barry tried to pretend to be Season 1 Barry from that time, which confirmed to Thawne that Season 2 Barry wasn't confident he could take him in a straight fight. But Season 5 Barry walked right in and confirmed it's been a few years. Therefore Thawne knows that Season 5 Barry is confident he can curb stomp him. So Thawne tries to put up a show of them being on equal footing, but not once does he make a physically threatening move, unlike with Season 2 Barry, who he was a second away from killing until Season 2 Barry blackmailed him.
@@aomaito5549 Actually at this point he hadn't. It was only when Barry said it was Nora's idea to use Savitar's suit as part of the tech to destroy Cicada's dagger that he knew. He'd already assessed that Nora wasn't smart enough to come up with something like that on her own. But he was. It was only in that scene that he knew he was essentially working alongside his future self.
They really did Thawne justice in this series. Reverse-Flash is by far the Flash’s most formidable enemy. But what makes him scarier than the others is how brilliant he is.
The gravity of their relationship was played out so well in this scene just by the facial expressions of both Barry and Norah. Norah knows who Thawne is mostly by what she’s read and you see the sheer fear when she’s face to face with this version of him, which is much different from the older Thawne in her time period.
While Barry’s expression is just pure hatred, anger and disgust at the guy who killed his mother, betrayed him and has pledged his life to making his a living hell. Barry’s disgust is knowing that he unwittingly allowed his mother’s killer to befriend him and train him. All for selfish reasons.
What elevates it further is how we saw season 2 Barry's demeanor play out versus his season 5. Granted (pun intended) he was in a more desperate position in season 2 compared to 5; however that hatred is still there with a higher of confidence and honesty.
He doesn't lie to Thawne, he doesn't appeal to him, and his ego. He matches his energy completely.
How does nora got a older thawne if thawne died? And why did nora trave back to time? Why she wanted to kill barry? What is barry and nora doing here?
@@sajibchowdhurysultan6041
Because Barry pulled Thawne out of the timeline when he created Flashpoint, Thawne is a living paradox. The older Thawne Nora knows, idk how he’s alive considering the paradox Thawne was killed by Black Flash in Legends, and the older Thawne is the one who died when Eddie killed himself and remembers both everything that happened in season 1 and Legends season 2. As for Nora, she ran back in time to meet her dad because he died in Crisis before the timeline changed, she didn’t want to kill him, but she also didn’t know that Thawne killed her grandma and ruined her dad’s life
@@sajibchowdhurysultan6041 clearly hthe aveennt watchhed s5
@@sajibchowdhurysultan6041 because Barry played god, ran back and forth in different points of time, interact with Thawne in many instances, and intervened him from killing Nora and getting stuck (or, in other word, made Thawne chose differently). Then a version of Thawne didn't go back in time to kill Barry because he knew he would fail anyway, proceed to move on into the Thawne that interacted with Nora West. Remember the Thawne he imprisoned when he tried to save his mother in season 3, that version of Thawne didn't get to kill Nora, didn't get stuck, never grew care for team Flash, never died by the hand of direct un-existing effect.
1:18 Barry's face when he says that, he was probably like, "I'm this close to kicking your ass!!"
Fr 😂
He was like:
Boi if you don't get
He's like “careful with those next words or else i’ll fck you up”
For telling the truth? And that Barry fucked with the timeline made him lose a child?
Pretty well done scene, love how nora is just terrified of thawne and barry doesn't even flinch because he is so battle hardended from their fights, plus his personal hatred for thawne.
1:12 "nora, that's nice at least you still have one" 😂
"Savitar" = Savage Barry
The "You Don't Go Home" Barry = Savagest Barry
I miss this Thawne. THe one that doesn't hate Barry for a petty reason. The one who tells you that his hatred for Barry has a deeper reason in the show's Flashpoint. The one who is more like a hated frenemy to Barry. Instead of that absolute bs of a 'Thawne' that we saw in season eight
@Un Shakl3d yeah but cw Thawne isn't that petty
@@reaper7910 CW Thawne is very comic accurate in terms of personality and reasoning, throughout the show they use a couple retcon versions of Thawne's origins, they mostly stayed true to the character in this show compared to everyone else including Barry himself. The only thing that makes him unique then most comic versions of Reverse Flash is The Harrison Wells aspect and The Professor Zoom disconnect.
@@bendu8282 The comic Reverse Flash IS Zoom, right? Is the CW Zoom inspired in any speedster from the comics?
@@marxist-leninist-protagonist Yes in comics Zoom was just another name for Reverse Flash except it was Professor Zoom not just Zoom. My guess is CW Zoom is probably based on the other guy to take the Zoom Mantle Hunter Zoloman.
@@reaper7910 he is lol
The thumb nail is perfect
Barry's face every time thawne returns xD
The reversal of power here is SO satisfying.
"If you're here... And he's here... That means...
"You don't get home."
What's awesome about this scene for me is Barry purposely shows that he has his Flash Ring now just like how Thawne has his Reverse Flash Ring. Which in the comics is when Barry has the most experience he's fought Thawne many times. It shows how far he's really come and that he could beat him in a fight, the reason OG timeline Barry "lost" the night his mom died was because he was preoccupied with saving his Younger self and thought after the fight Thawne would leave.
Not really. He gets his ass kicked all the time. He loses to street level clowns.
@@SkykunDA I agree but that's for the show to create conflict. But I'm talking about in the comics Barry has his ring that holds his costume, which in the show wasn't supposed to happen for a few more years especially if Barry wasn't supposed to get his powers till the 2020's. So if that's how powerful he's become where he's caught up to his comic book counter part he should be worried.
I love how the show mentions Jesse Chambers and Danica Williams
Yet one of them is named Jesse Wells and the other isn't shown in the show
They probably existed in the original timeline before Thawne shredded it
I’m pretty sure Jesse Wells’ middle name is chambers but I could be wrong
@@lagonwellsmusic That is correct.
Jesse wells is the same person as Jesse chambers
@@adammarch9604yea that one is gone
1:25 the way he breaks his sentence to "what do you want" bruh
2:11 LMAO now that's just petty
I like how Nora is terrified of Thawn, while Barry just looks at him with utter hatred.
Tom Cavanaugh is such a versatile and talented actor, brilliantly and masterfully plays the many versions of Wells so pun intended well.
I just noticed something. He called Nora, Dawn. That means, that was going to be her name before he messed with the timeline.
Yup. In the original timeline, Barry's mom was alive at the time his daughter was born, and he and Iris just pick a random name. In this timeline, his mother is long dead and Barry decides to name his child after his late mother. That's why Thawne says "Boy! Nora... time travel is so weird."
I always go back and watch this scene every so often for a good laugh. So memeable.
2:00 That Look💀
At least you still have one, i genuinely love how thawne hates him so much he even makes fun of his family in the smallest but worst possible ways
I so I don’t I do 😂
Man’s was just sitting there waiting for Berry to wake up
lmao i didn’t think about it 😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I love how thawne kicked knocked out Barry's leg he's a real piece of 💩
💀
I wonder if future Barry felt it 💀
@@ashafrancis3610 that's probably why he had that face
Thawne sure had a hell of a day. Being blackmailed and manipulated by two future Barry's in one day.
Jesus, you can still see the hatred in Barry’s eyes.
Very intense scene. Barry introduced Thawne to his future daughter to get help from the only person that could do it. But if you think about it more, Barry essentially made a deal with the devil and traded the life of his first born as Thawne is the ultimate evil in his life. The parallel is very strong here.
“At least you still have one” DAMN
god man when grant and tom are on screen together its fucking magic. i know the DC universe and the flash are a bright show and i love that so much but just imagine if these guys did a dark version of the flash
They are truly electrifying on screen together. That confusing blend of mentor and mentee, villain and hero, rivals, plus the twisted hero worship Thawne once had for the Flash and Barry used to have for Thawne/Wells. And the way he says 'You've brought me your daughter', it sounds almost grateful, almost like 'You've brought me one more thing I can take away from you to make our hatred go deeper'.
It's all so twisted and delightful and pure electricity when they're on screen together.
“At least you still have one” bro is a menance
Love the banter haha none of your business!
Bro that "Atleast you still have one." Killed me
‘You couldn’t live with your own failure??and where did it bring you??Back to me’
Would have been a perfect line in this scene.
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Thanos😊
That’s Thanos lmao 🤣 but would be cool
this aged like fine wine, check out 9x10
@@Cosmicmorales brought it back full circle the last 3 last seasons were trash but had their moments but I’m super thrilled they brought it back full circle 9x10
Previous timeline
Upon meeting Nora in 2015, Eobard realized that she was Barry's daughter and asked if her name was Dawn. When Nora corrected him, Thawne realized that his actions in the year 2000 had changed the timeline and inspired the West-Allen couple to name their daughter after Barry's late mother.
He met Nora?
Just loved how Eobard was being blackmailed by 2 Barrys in one day.
00:46 Thawne's most menacing ever line.
“You brought me your daughter” is one of the coldest lines
bro knew danica williams. nah bro, he's way too informed holy crap
This Scene….IS INCREDIBLE!!! The Tension, The Past with these 2 and the ACTING!!! GOD I….”Loved” this Show!! What Happened?!?! 😢😢
Eobard Thawne is like Hannibal Lecter. He is a bad guy but sometimes he is the man who can solve the problem. It's cool.😎
"at least you still have one"
BRUH
One of the best episodes! "Which Barry Allen "🔥
Cisco and Catlin in the other room: did you hear that yelling
Jessica Parker Kennedy's acting in this scene is so layered, playing Nora, in her words, as seemingly completely oblivious to who Thawne is, while her eyes betray her recognition. There's also her unease projected watching his and Barry's hostile interactions. Having been so used to seeing him in the future as, if not good, at least benevolent and helpful to her, seeing this evil side of Thawne, what made him the Flash's archenemy, for the first time, is so jarring for Nora.
This will forever be in my top 3 favorite (Thawne in general)/ Reverse Flash moment both Tom and Matt who play Thawne play his intimidation very differently but I actually like that bc not every version of Barry from whenever in the timeline has to think or act the exact same bc it’s different periods in his life time
2:47 the sarcastic laugh tho 💀
thawne: *kicks past barry*
future barry: 😠
Fun Fact: Thawne said that Barry's daughter is named Dawn but her name is Nora however in the comics XS' name is Jenni who is actually Barry's grandaughter along with his grandson, Bart and Barry's daughter is named Dawn along with his son, Don and Don and Dawn are the Tornado Twins
Reminds me of when multiple Stewies and Brians had to go back in time to stop the previous Stewies and Brians from messing up the timelines. 😂😂😂
I like the detail that Nora is afraid of Thawne's angry ourbursts but they dont faze (or phase 😉) Barry. Barry is used to Thawne at this point and isnt afraid of him, while Nora has probably never had to face off agaisnt someone so evil and villanous, or at least that she knows Thawne to be from Barry's point of view, as she doesnt know what Thawne had done to Barry's life until after this
Thawne comes from the timeline in which Harrison Wells creates the flash in 2024. So when he decided to go back and kill Nora Allen i think that was always meant to happen in every timeline, but what wasnt supposed to happen is that Thawne loses his speed at the begining making him create the flash in 2014-15. When he did that he changed everything because barry was still supposed to be awake making him be avle to be with iris in the 9 month coma whicj was originally meant to happen which says that og barry married Iris much later than Barry and he would become the flash in 2024 so he qould start his adventures with Cisco and Harrison Wells-1 at that point. Which explains why a much more older self than barry is there but with the og suit from season 2. Point being, Thawne changed the timeline but he remains immune to the changes meaning he can be unaware of them to a meaningful extent. This change in the timeline is what made him aware so he got informed when he saved himself after the ending of S1. Which started the cicada plan to destroy the dagger using Nora. All he had to do was make sure Barry dissapeared, be in prision at the same time nora got her powers so he could mentor her. Thawne is truly a genious. I still dont understand how he survived, i understand flashpoint thawne fought the legends and was killed by black flash meanwhile season 2 thawne is the one that comes to fight barry at his house and get trapped in the past
My guess is that Eobard has time traveled so much there are various "instances" of him in existence, each one at a different point in time.
2020*
On the flashback where Thawne made the car accident of Harrison Wells and his wife, he told him while preparing the device that will change his appearance to Wells' that he turned the Particle Accelerator successfully in 2020, no further word if that still created metahumans or not.
Gideon said "Your latest time jump against the flash" it means he time traveled a lot already. His another jump was in S2E11 when he said "I finally figured out what time period you're from, Flash" that was Thawne from the future maybe trying to discover who the flash actually is before he killed his mother. He may have other journeys too.
I am pretty shure that you are wrong. The only reason why thawne lost his speed is, that barry doesnt become the flash because thawne killed his mother. So after that he takes over wells body to create the flash to get back his speed and to get back home in his orignal timeline and he does it much faster. so barry gets to be the flash earlier just because thawne wants to get home. so the flash we know is not the original timeline flash. In the original timeline Wells1 creates the flash in the year 2020 and ca 130 years later thawne works at the flash museum after the flash is long dead and tries to become the flash but. Thorugh time travel he gets to know, that he is destined to become the flashes arch enemy the reverse flash.
Sorry for bad english
There is also a video from the channel DC Comics arrorverse that explains the timeline of the reverseflash with the name "reverseflash timeline explained" and he does it up to season 8. So if you didnt get what I mean you can look up this video.
I hoped that this scene could be expanded, but I guess it wont...
Scary and sinical Thawne he said without remorse "you brought me your daughter" like if he was going to kill her in that exact moment
i love thawnes little temper tantrums when he can't get what he wants. lol.
When flash was in its prime
Nice preview image
Thawne acting was just soo amazing dude seriously and the way he use to teach barry was sooo amazing to watch we want season 10
hate that the only resolution here is for Barry to lie his ass off, doesn't help that Thawne is 1000x more charismatic
He kicks his leg 😂😂😂
The thumbnail is perfect! 🤣🤣🤣
Reverse flash is hands down the best thing that happened to this series
For what is worth, I love him playing Eobard
Moments like this are great but seeing the original Nora makes me so sad.
And then angry that the writers think that just because Joe said letting thawne die wouldn’t be a nice thing to do that Barry would save him.
He ERASED his daughter from existence TWICE. No way Joe wouldn’t understand that, Thawnes laundry list is way too long to ever even consider him worthy of life
Thumbnail nailed it.
2:47 🗿”especially your own right Barry Allen?”
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barrys smug face while telling him he wont go home is a CLASSIC
The way he just kicks past (ish) barry lol
2:13 😂him kicking Harry is so unbelievably petty and RF I love it
“Nora.. that's nice, at least you still have one” 💀💀
Dude, all 3 of the actors in this scene are fucking fantastic.
Barry looks furious talking to Thawne
Thawne is both furious and a little delighted because he knows that he has the opportunity to fuck Barry's life just a little more
Both of them seem like old, bitter enemies who know eachother better than they've ever known another human being.
And then there's Nora, looking absolutely terrified because she's meeting the person who was no doubt her childhood bogey man face to face.
Except its revealed later that nora already met Thawne and that the Future Thawne was the only reason she even learned how to time travel, because he taught her to so that she could see her dad, he manipulated her so he could escape.
TO be fair, I believe it's a valid point in saying that although Thawne hates the shit out of Barry, Thawne himself in the show says that he grew to love Barry while teaching him. So, it's not a stretch to say that they are frenemies at this point.
I would like to add, its also Nora seeing the hatred in barry, up until this point has been the hero, the ray of sunshine. And this shows the dark side no one talks about.
I love that Barry is the one with the upper hand here.
One day, I really hope that Barry finally thinks before he acts
When he says I go go home I go home I get everything you can see Barry’s pure enjoyment to him being ma
Is it me or did grant get bigger 😂
*The Flash 16x09*
25 Barry Allen's in that room.
Thawne was roasting everyone in this episode 💀
me gusta el golpe q le da al barry del piso, tipo "porqueria q no sirves pa na" xdddd
Could you imagine if Caitlin or cisco walking by and just hear thawne and Barry yelling inside and sees thawne Nora Barry 1 and 2 in the room how confused would they be lol
Flash Season 5. 8 Episode
100 „Jubilee episode really well done against Cicada
I love how this Barry isn't scared of Thawne, he knows he has the upper hand and is just angry.
I'm surprised the other Barry didn't wake up and be like: "Tf is going on? Why are you yelling?"
Wouldn't be suprised if he was awake the whole time and was just too stomped by what was happening 😂
Even when Barry thinks he has the upper hand, Thawne is playing him for fools. Purposely arguing with Barry about who the device is for, knowing Nora would say, since she said her name with no fear. Knowing it was for Cicada then gave Thawne the ammunition to manipulate the timeline to free himself in the future, even if he didn't know he was going to be imprisoned.
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two superfine actors showcasing their skills👌
"Atleast you still have one".I know it is bad but i laughed on how delievered that line lolll
I might be in the minority here but I do prefer Matt Letscher as Thawne. Reusing the actor for so many varient or otherwise roles makes me care less for the character
Tom has so much talent though. He's definitely the best RF and allround actor in the show.
@@Verq... Tom does no question but in the few episodes Matt has been the reverse I felt he has given a stronger performance , alittle more variety. Tom was great as reverse at the beginning but it just felt less satisfying over time.
@@kevinfelix2543 I've stopped watching the show a long time ago, but just from memory: Whenever Matt Letscher played Thawne, it felt a bit disconnected. Not even through his acting, but simply because the entire Flash/RF dynamic was established with Tom. Matts RF always felt like a RF that isn't part of the shows timeline and just stumbles into it.
I liked both but you could definitely tell the showed relied more on Tom for convenience at times.
Since Matt was the original body we shoulda seen him more
My patience is waning is this entertaining
My patience is waning IS THIS ENTERTAINING?!
0:04 I e I e ah
it's funny how you can see him displaying his full hate towards Barry, but none what so ever towards Nora. "I'm sorry where are my manors, would you like a cup of water." addressing Nora while seemingly ignoring Barry lmao.
So does this version of Thawne talk to Barry and Nora and then the younger future Barry goes on to have the same conversation we saw in season 2? It would mostly still fit just from Thawne being so confused about the whole thing. Barry coming back twice to the same point in history.
I don't know why but I always kind of want Thawne to win. I enjoy watching him take Barry down a peg.
Rf is such a menace the way he kicks barrys unconscious body is hilarious
They could have just gone back in time to season 4, before Harry lost his intelligence, so they wouldn't have to risk messing up the timeline!