f(x) = ax^2 + 4x + c; In the given quadratic function, a and c are constants. The graph of....

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  • Bluebook Digital SAT Test 2 Module 2 (Hard) Question 22:
    f(x) = ax^2 + 4x + c
    In the given quadratic function, a and c are constants. The graph of y = f(x) in the xy-plane is a parabola that opens upward and has a vertex at the point (h, k), where h and k are constants. If k is less than 0 and f(-9) = f(3), which of the following must be true?
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Komentáře • 38

  • @longbttms4255
    @longbttms4255 Před 4 měsíci +19

    This makes so much more sense than the convoluted answer they gave on Bluebook, and it matches my test taking style so much more. Thank you!!!!

  • @OverclockingCowboy
    @OverclockingCowboy Před 10 dny +3

    This problem is easier to visualize with actual figures (number).
    We know that the vertex of the parabola is at f(-3) [midpoint of f(-9) and f(3)]. We can apply this point into the vertex form.
    a (x + 3) ^2 + k
    ax^2 + 6ax + 9a + k
    Equating coefficients with the standard form
    b = 6a
    c = 9a + k
    From the first relation, replacing b by 4
    4 = 6a
    a = 2/3
    Thus, condition II is false.
    From the second relation,
    c = 9a + k = 6 + k
    Thus,
    c > 0, in the interval -6 < k < 0
    c < 0, when k < -6
    Hence,
    Condition I is false. c is not ALWAYS less than zero when k is less than zero.
    What it means:
    k = height of vertex
    c = y intercept.
    When the vertex of the parabola is touching the x axis at k = 0, the y intercept of the parabola is at c = 6.
    When the vertex is at k = -6, the y intercept is at c = 0.
    This is the range where c is greater than zero when k is less than zero.

    • @TheSATMathGuy
      @TheSATMathGuy  Před 10 dny

      Thanks

    • @OverclockingCowboy
      @OverclockingCowboy Před 10 dny +1

      ⁠@@TheSATMathGuy
      An interesting follow up to this question is: when is condition II true? What is the condition for a to be greater than 1?
      It was derived above that b = 6a. Thus, if b > 6, then a > 1.
      There is a general relationship between a and b, and the vertex V (x component) from the vertex equation.
      V = -b/2a
      Or
      a = -b/2V
      Condition II would have been a trap answer if b were given as 7, that is, the given equation was f(x) = ax^2 + 7x + c.

    • @TheSATMathGuy
      @TheSATMathGuy  Před 9 dny

      @@OverclockingCowboy 🙏🏾

  • @NKA70
    @NKA70 Před 2 měsíci +2

    @TheSATMathGuy Thank you so much for this video!
    But I'm so sorry, even after reading the comment section, I'm still not understanding why c

    • @TheSATMathGuy
      @TheSATMathGuy  Před 2 měsíci +3

      Thanks for your question. c could be less than 0. It just doesn't have to be and the question asks: "which of the following MUST be true?". Secondly, f(-9) = f(3) can definitely happen where c > 0 or c < 0. For example, you can have points (-9, 5) and (3, 5). You are right that the vertex is at (-3, ?). The only place where you're slightly off is on how the given information affects the y-intercept. It could be negative or it could be positive.... we just really do not know for sure based upon any of the given information. Hope that helps

    • @NKA70
      @NKA70 Před měsícem +3

      @@TheSATMathGuy Completely forgot to reply to this, but thank you sooo much! Your explanation and giving the (-9, 5) and (3, 5) example really helped. Thank you again!

    • @TheSATMathGuy
      @TheSATMathGuy  Před měsícem +1

      @@NKA70 you’re very welcome!!

    • @editer3089
      @editer3089 Před 2 dny

      @@NKA70 but they said k

    • @NKA70
      @NKA70 Před 2 dny +2

      @@editer3089
      (h, k) is the vertex which in this case is the lowest coordinate on the parabola. K doesn’t represent the y-intercept, it just represents the lowest y-coordinate the parabola can go.
      What helped me realize that the y-intercept can be positive is to plug in the coordinates that “TheSATMathGuy” wrote. Try plugging in (-9,5) then a (3,5) with a vertex at (-3,-0.5) on a desmos graphing calculator.
      If you imagine a parabola going through those three points, you can see that the y-intercept would be a positive number. Thus, c (the y-intercept) does not HAVE to be less than 0
      Hopefully that helped you bit!

  • @zuzuotb1121
    @zuzuotb1121 Před 9 dny +1

    thanks for your videos, they've been super helpful! I was just wondering though, how is there a possibility that C (or the y-intercept) can be a positive value if we know that the parabola faces upwards and that they're two points across the x axis? Or in other words, if the vertex's Y value was greater than 0 how would it cross the x-axis still even when the parabola is facing upwards?

    • @TheSATMathGuy
      @TheSATMathGuy  Před 9 dny

      Thank you so much for watching the videos. I’m grateful that you found the channel and that it has been helpful. To answer your question: if the y value of the vertex of an upward facing parabola is positive (greater than 0) it CANNOT have any x-intercepts. If, however, the y value of the vertex is negative and faces upward - it will definitely have two x-intercepts and either a positive or negative y-intercept. You’d need more information in order to know exactly where the y-intercept is. Hope this helps.

    • @zuzuotb1121
      @zuzuotb1121 Před 7 dny +1

      ​@@TheSATMathGuy Oh that makes sense, I just had a brainfart because I was thinking that the C value in the quadratic equations was the y value in the vertex. Anyways thanks for the clarification and all your help!

    • @TheSATMathGuy
      @TheSATMathGuy  Před 7 dny

      @@zuzuotb1121 Any time!!

  • @sanjanacm5082
    @sanjanacm5082 Před 3 měsíci +2

    Thank you so much. Your videos help a lot! 😊

  • @ugo7492
    @ugo7492 Před 4 měsíci +2

    thank you so much for these! they help a lot

  • @razeehmed
    @razeehmed Před 6 měsíci +4

    If k

    • @TheSATMathGuy
      @TheSATMathGuy  Před 6 měsíci

      not at all. The parabola can face upward with a vertex that is below the x-axis and a y-intercept that is positive. Hope that answers your question. I explain this in detail starting around the 2:40 mark.

    • @attaboyspider3129
      @attaboyspider3129 Před 6 měsíci +1

      K is the y point of the vertex while C is the point of the y intercept. So the vertex can be low but as the parabola curves up, it can still hit the y intercept(c).

  • @shray5861
    @shray5861 Před 4 měsíci +1

    thank you so much! I was super confused on this one

  • @aliushafilms877
    @aliushafilms877 Před 15 dny +1

    why c is equal to y intercept?

    • @TheSATMathGuy
      @TheSATMathGuy  Před 15 dny +1

      The y-intercept is found by setting x equal to 0. When x = 0, f(x) = c. This means that c is the y-intercept. Hope that helps

  • @mabarcalona
    @mabarcalona Před 2 měsíci +1

    is there any other way we can solve this? i do not get it

    • @TheSATMathGuy
      @TheSATMathGuy  Před 2 měsíci +1

      Yes - use f(-9) = f(3) to plug in -9 into the function for x and set it equal to plugging 3 in to the function for x. You'd get: 81a - 36 + c = 9a + 12 + c. Solve for an and you'll see that a = 2/3. Hope that helps!

    • @mabarcalona
      @mabarcalona Před 2 měsíci

      @@TheSATMathGuy okay i see, when we write the equation we will get red of c right? which means it has no solution, i am not sure about this correct me please, and when a=2/3 it means that a is greater then ` not equal that is why it is wrong? is this go it is going

  • @verakeefer8959
    @verakeefer8959 Před 5 měsíci +1

    is the vertex and y intercept not the same thing?

    • @Paps628
      @Paps628 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Vertex is where the parabola is, and y intercept is where the parabola CROSSES the y

    • @TheSATMathGuy
      @TheSATMathGuy  Před 5 měsíci +2

      Vertex is the lowest point of an upward facing parabola or the highest point of a downward facing parabola. The y intercept is where the parabola intersects the y axis.

  • @toqtamish5637
    @toqtamish5637 Před 5 měsíci +2

    i dont get it if K is lesss than zero than should be y intercept less than zero

    • @ovencake523
      @ovencake523 Před 5 měsíci

      go to desmos and graph x^2+11x+28, you'll see that the vertex (h,k) is below the x-axis, but c=28, which is positive
      the parabola has just been moved far enough to the left that the y intercept can be positive. I just translated f(x)=x^2+x+2 to the left by 5.

    • @TheSATMathGuy
      @TheSATMathGuy  Před 5 měsíci +2

      I wouldn't say "should" be. More like "could" be. The question asks which answer "must" be. "MUST" be means that it CANNOT be anything else. Do you feel that strongly about the y-intercept being less than zero?

    • @toqtamish5637
      @toqtamish5637 Před 5 měsíci +2

      @@TheSATMathGuy got it gave my sat two days back your videos helped alot
      cheers mate 😉