Installing Windows 2000 Professional Edition!!
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- čas přidán 27. 08. 2024
- Let's bring back some nostalgic memories by reliving what it was like Installing Windows 2000 Professional Edition on our Pentium III Dell XPS System! In this video we will chat through the scenario of what decisions you were faced with back in 2000 and walk through the installation of one of the 'better' Operating Systems of it's time and the foundation for Windows XP!
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Man, 2000 Pro was just peak Windows. I dual-booted it with 98 for a while, before realizing (after a few SPs) that it was just as fine a gaming OS as 98!
Agreed!
From my experience Windows 98 was even better for some games because DOS mode, although Windows 2000, especially with SP4 was far more stable.
@@TheDuumiMuumi True, but I wasn't playing many DOS games at the time. Back in 2000, retro gaming wasn't really a thing yet. :)
@@stevef6392 Yup. And what comes to Windows 2000's stability, I've once seen Windows 2000 machine with over 1 year of uptime! That's what you call stable! :)
@@TheDuumiMuumi1 year is pretty weaksauce. My own home server back then ran for just over 4 years nonstop before the system drive died. When I rebuilt the system I threw XP at it as Win2k was already old news at that point (around 2008)
Windows 2000 was the turning point for Microsoft. Away from DOS and the 9X operating systems.I still use it from time to time. Thanks for the Video
You're right and you are welcome!
Going from Windows Me to Windows 2000 pirat-professional edition was a breath of fresh air.
Haha pirat-professional :). But yes, for stability 100%
A large percentage of people I knew of that had W2K disks had bootleg copies. I think this was the last Windows before Online Activation, some of my older relatives tell me that you'd see bootleg W2K professional disks everywhere at computer shows.
@@woohoo2491 Oh for sure. If I look hard enough I can probably find a CD-R with Windows 2000 scribbled on it in permanent marker. My friends at the time really appreciated it.
W2k was a beast. Stable as f..., lightweight, secure as all OSes based on NT and introduces PnP unlike its predecessor. If you patch them with Extended Kernel, you can run even modern-ish browsers, like MyPal. Best OS ever! And in those days, where we have Legacy Update, working on Windows 2000 gives so much fun.
Hahahaha 'stable as f...' agreed! It's quite versitile. I could use this as my daily!
But Y2k? *We don't talk about that.*
What happened.. What is Y2k? 🤣.
@@TheRetroRecall look it up *at your own risk*
@@ElectricoGamez the OS was made because Y2K... do research
I used W2K from the very beginning to EOS, I absolutely LOVED it !
Awesome! It was pretty robust.
@@TheRetroRecall same here. I barely used XP and never used me. Even tried vista which sucks so went back to 2000 then xp then 7, tried 10 (my worst mistake ever!!!) and now i'm back on 7 and happy!!. I have an older pc that can still run 98,200 and xp if needed as well as virtual but im fine on windows 7
Nice!!!!
@@PhantomWorksStudiosplease, please, PLEASE make sure to have the best virus protector on the market. and soon, whenever every single app pulls the plug on 7, please upgrade to Windows 11 or Windows 12 if it’s released at the time. I have been using Windows 11 for 1 year now, and it’s really easy to get used to, really great, and I’m guessing your used to the Windows icon being in the left, but with Windows 11 it’s in the center, and I have great news! You are able to customize it to look like Windows 7, with the same icon, the alignment, and everything! I have done it before, so I recommend upgrading to 11, and nobody is stopping you from customizing it to look EXACTLY like Windows 7!! However that’s your choice, and I am just trying to look out for my fellow computer users, as I have been in a bad position with my computer before, so I just want to make sure my fellow users are safe and comfortable! But please, make sure that if you stay on 7, that you are up-to-date, and have a great virus program that will ensure your security just as good as Windows Security and Firewall.
@@TheRetroRecallrobust, reliable, compatible
Windows 2000 Pro was actually the first windows I didn't hate. I was primarily a DOS user before it. As my system early on was a K6-2 500 and my Voodoo3 2000, win 2k was a dream. I don't remember too many problems, that system was stable, more so then the user.
Nice!! Haha yes most issues were user to keyboard :)
I loved Windows 2k Pro and DOS 3.3! I used every Windows except ME and Vista. My favourites are Win98 SE, WIn2k Pro, XP and Win 7.
Funny start story, I was in a similar situation back then too. I went Windows 98 for play and NT 4 for work (Dual boot). I did update my NT 4 to Windows 2000 when it came out. Very good memories of computing back then 😉😃
Haha, I always like to tell a good story lol, yes you are right, great memories!
I used Windows 2000 for 5 years straight without formatting or having any problems.with SP4. One of the most stable OS I have used. Keep up the good work. Take care. :)
Thank you, and you as well!!
and in that 5 years you never changed hardware right?
I was an early adopter of 2K as well. I was at college doing programming and networking classes at the time, so this made complete sense to me. I had my own issues with win 95, so I’d been reluctant to try 98 and I was still mostly using DOS - even for word processing.
By the time I was forced to upgrade my PC, 2000 came out. The most trouble I had was game compatibility early on. So stable, and that recover to earlier working config option was gold. I didn’t install another OS on my desktop until 2008.
Agreed, such a great reliable OS. I mean dual booting if you wanted games was always an option however for the games that I ran I didn't have many issues with Win2k.
I loved it so much back then. I managed schools with a HP NetServe and classes full of Vectra VL with Win2000 that I'd install over the network. These were the real good old days.
Great memories for sure.
My first OS was DOS 5 on 5 1/4 floppies. Used pretty much all versions of windows except windows 8. I remember buying my copy of windows 95 (on floppies) at future shop when it came out. Windows 2000 was the best until XP came out. The windows 2000 startup sound is the best in my opinion. Loved the video :).
Thank you and I love your OS journey! I have a sealed copy of Windows 95 on floppies :)
This is just awesome. Looking forward to see what's coming next.
Thanks!!
Damn you, you just twisted my arm into building another retro PC. :D I had some good times with windows 2000. I went to ME and then went back to 2k.
Hahaha I tend to have that effect in people. Watch out - you will start collecting some different parts next lol! Have fun with the build (s) haha!
Love your content and your presentation style. Thanks for this - used Win2k quite happily and completely steered clear of Windows ME myself. Fortunately my computer had bog standard easy to find hardware and install drivers at the times - had friends who had horror stories with BOTH 2000 AND ME ;)
Haha, I've been fortunate but like you, I've had friends who just had issues. Thanks for watching!!
Windows 98 era? You mean machines with Windows 98 certification stickers and not 2000, I assume. The chronological era is nearly the same, remember that the version to have, 98SE, is from '99.
@@BilisNegra Post edited to remove the incorrect reference. There is a SPECIFIC certification sticker I was mis-remembering - it is WHITE and has the text 'Designed for Windows 2000 Professional Windows 98' under a Windows logo....
A silver one was available too hence the confusion - even if it is a later one to the one in the video-
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Windows 2000 was awesome. When I was old enough to get my own PC I got a used one with a fresh install of 2000. I think our family PC was running XP home at the time and we had an older 98 and 3.11 machine too.
2000 Was awesome since it ran basically everything that XP did but consumed less resources. All my games worked on it and I definitely preferred using it over the family XP machine. Now that I’m older I realize it was probably just the low resource usage of 2000 plus the fact that the early Pentium 4s were pretty terrible. My 2000 machine was rocking a pentium 3 that smoked the Pentium 4 in the family PC. Definitely some nostalgia factor but still, it was the first OS I truly got to tinker around with since it was on my own PC.
Thanks for sharing this! Yes - I agree. The OS was pretty great and my experience with it was equally as great. I don't recall running into any issues as it was very stable.
I remember using WindowsNT on Avid video editing systems back in the late 90's which were then upgraded to Windows 2000. One of the Windows 2000 systems was still being used well into the early 2010s. The system was pre-HD so was towards the end of it's life it only used for one TV drama show that was still using SD (Digital Betacam) video.
Thanks for sharing! Betacam... wow! I just saw one of those at a thrift store the other day. Now you are bringing me down memory lane lol.
I daily drove a dual boot 98/2000 computer back in the day. Never touched Me with a barge pole. Not even with someone else's barge pole! 2000 was kind of the best of the pre-XP operating systems, but 98 was really needed for the games, so a dual boot gave you the best of both worlds. In fact I still have a 98/2000 dual boot system sat under my desk right now....
That's awesome and thanks for sharing. I assume you would have kept yo a fat32 file system for the dual boot and dos games? I had used Win2k on NTFS and had decent compatibility for what I was running at the time. :)
@@TheRetroRecallYes, FAT32 throughout. But of course as time went on more and more games worked under 2000 so 98 got used less and less. There were always a few older ones that never worked on 2000 though so 98 did still have its place. First install 98, then upgrade it to 2000, selecting the option to keep the old OS.
Nice!!
Windows 2000 is and always will be my favorite version of Windows. It is very stable, secure, fast, for games it is fantastic. Today I have it installed on a dual boot machine along with Windows Vista.
Long live Windows 2000.
I love this!!!! Keep it going!
Windows 98 & ME were gutter trash. Win2k was such a step up, but marketed to business uses. Not until XP was there a consumer Microsoft OS which was not a toy. I started with 95, then NT4, then Win2k, then XP. Completely avoided ME/98 Plague. XP was NT lineage kernel with consumer shell/GUI, and other more consumer friendly tweaks. That Dell desktop reminds me of my 1st computer I got while in college. Very cool video BTW.
Thanks!! Yeah I found the first release of 98 bad, but 98se was pretty stable. ME had very mixed reviews, however to be honest, I was one of the lucky few who didn't experience issues.
Nice video. I did get the Win 2000 CD in 2001 or so from a colleague and I installed it on my laptop and used it till XP was released. I still have it in a Virtualbox VM and it runs with 2 cores, 384 MB memory and 10 GB vdi-disk. I installed MS-Office 2003. It also has Windows Media Player 9.0, the visual aspects are different from WMP-10/11, but it had all functions of the later XP versions.
Nice! Do you have any genuine hardware to test it out on?
@@TheRetroRecall I have a 486DX66 and a Philips P3105, a XT clone, but both are in a cupboard. I have no desk space for it. Last time I tried them out was 10 years ago. I also had a 2003 Pentium 4 HT, but I used that for 1 hour per week as Backup Server with FreeBSD. A few month ago the motherboard died after 21 years of service.
After 1969 I worked 4 years in prototype test of main frames. Afterwards I moved to OS and application software development during 40 years. So I'm more interested in the OSes, like Linux and Windows and less in the hardware. So Virtualbox is ideal for me, since it has some decent emulation of older hardware from the time of e.g Windows 1.04 or 3.1.
Also something I learned about Windows 2000 just recently: One limitation compared to XP was video card support - Radeon x850 or GeForce 7950 were latest cards. BUT, nvidia supported Windows 2000 in their Quadro line for 4 more years all the way through the Quadro 6000 which is basically a GTX 465.
Yeah, I can confirm video card support was definitely a challenge. I mean the hardware is seen but getting the drivers to function correctly is such a challenge.
Oh man, this brings back memories! Back in that era, I had an HP Pavilion 9870 PC with an Intel Pentium 4 1.3 GHz CPU (Willamette, Socket 423), 128 MB RDRAM, 60 GB HDD, and an NVIDIA RIVA TNT2 Pro 32 MB AGP 4X GPU. It came with Windows Millennium Edition, but I ended up wiping the drive, creating two partitions, reinstalling ME on the first one, and then installing Windows 2000 Professional on the second one. I ran ME for games and 2000 Professional for everything else.
That sounds like an awesome build! Glad I was able to bring back some memories for you!
I had a Fujitsu Siemens PC with Windows Me and it was nothing but trouble with crashes and freezes every day. It was a great day when that PC went in the bin and was replaced by an HP Pavilion Elite with Windows 7 which was totally reliable. Now I have two PCs with Windows 11, the one I am on now is home built, and they are great.
Nice! To be hinest I never had any issues with Windows ME. Latest drivers, clean install and environment and no issues. That said, I know a lot of my friends at the time who had nothing but issues.
When I was a teenager I used Windows 2000 Professional all of the time as my daily driver OS. I preferred it over Windows XP for years. It was stable, smooth and less resource intensive than Windows XP at the time. I absolutely loved this OS. In some ways I would love to be able to use it today!
I completely agree. It is such a simple, clean os that just worked. Using it today would also be a huge bonus!!
Windows 2000 Pro was also kinda the stake in the heart of having a Novell Netware network with Windows clients, as 2000 was a true multiuser OS vs 9x. The Novell Client took a long time to really reach feature parity on 2k vs 9x and by then businesses were moving to AD like anything.
Agreed.
Thank you for bring back some great wonderful memories. I used to work at a private school here in the UK and I was responsible for upgrading all of the computers to Windows 2000, and then connecting them to the domain server. I lost count of how many I upgraded, but after a few hours of installing Windows 2000 I remembered the CD Key (literally burned into my memory for years after lol). I think I must have upgraded well over 200+ computers to Windows 2000. I never had any problems with upgrading all of the computers from NT4 Workstation, and a few Windows 98 systems, but I think thats because I slipstreamed SP1 onto the CD's that I was using to install 2000. The only problems I had was with a few bits of software that I had to re-register which was MIDI software which was a pain in the neck as had to do it over the phone.
I love when people share these memories. I can imagine living through that time going through the deployments and facing the individual challenges. It would have been fun.
@@TheRetroRecall Thanks for the retro memory recall. The deployment wasn't that bad, I faced a few odd driver and software problems, but was quickly resolved. I was lucky as we could deploy software installs from the Windows 2000 Servers, so we set them up to do that overnight, like deploying Office 2000, and antivirus updates. I've still got my original Windows 2000 CD and box somewhere. Thanks for all of the great content and look forward to more in the future.
You are welcome! Stay tuned for the fun!
Despite all issues with Windows, it's still decades ahead of whatever Apple has with the Mac.
100%
I dual booted Windows 98 and 2000 when 2000 first came out. I think I spent 90% of my time in Windows 2000, it did everything I wanted it to do.
13:00 Windows 2000 doesn't require NTFS, it can also be installed on a FAT32 partition. Instead of deleting out the Windows 98 partition, you could have selected it and it would have given you an option to keep the partition intact, format it with FAT32 or Format it with NTFS. While playing with a multi-boot of Windows 98, NT 4 and 2000 I found that it will also boot off a FAT16 partition without any issues.
For sure, I stand corrected. I had forgotten about that until another viewer had pointed it out. I had always used NTFS for the efficiency, however I do remember using fat32 and using the utility to convert the file system.
i remember going from 98 to windows 2000 pro back in the day on my AMD k6-2 350 it ran good
Win2k always ran quite well. I just the OS
It's amazing how many people have become nostalgic for older Windows OSes. I used Win2k Pro for a long time, and I just found an unused OEM licence in my pile of what George Carlin would call “stuff”. I’m getting ready to test it out on a 12-year-old Lenovo desktop. :-)
That's awesome! Let me know how it goes.. It's a fun adventure. Who knows, Windows 10 may become nostalgic lol!
I built my very first PC in 2001. It ran an AMD Athlon XP 1800+ CPU at 1.5GH, 768 MB of DDR SDRAM, and a 128GB hard disk, with an ATI Radeon AGP GPU. It started out with WIndows 98, then XP Professional. I was takigng the Cisco CCNA course in college and we got evulation copies of WIndows 2000 Pro and Server with working keys. NO ACTIVATION needed. so we made copies for ourselfs and had burned them on CD RW's. I installed 2000 Pro as a fresh install on my new PC and formatted it like this and damn....it was extremely slow. Way slower than 98 and XP. LIke turn it on and leave and go get a drink and come back slow. I wish I knew where the disks were/ had saved them, I would love to install it on a SSD. So not sure why this PC being older and slower with less RAM was faster..Maybe not good AMD support?
Possible? I never had that issue back in 2000, however I did run everything on intel.. So not sure. And this system being a P3 with 512gb is also handy :)
I remember installing Windows 2000 on my Dell Latitude C521 with an AMD Athlon 64 with 512mb RAM back in 2010… I even used it on my other Dell Optiplex GX280 and still remember Windows Updates still being available in 2011! Missing those days!
Yeah those were definitely exciting days. So much change in such a small period of time.
missing days? so you should use Legacy Update and bring your memories back! :D
I tried it last week and it works perfectly fine with 2k SP4 as base
I heard some good things about legacy update.
@@tennickjestzajety69 To be honest, I did use Legacy update for my Dell Latitude D430, but in particular I mean when updates were still supported by Microsoft :D I’ll have to use Legacy update with Windows 2000 someday! :)
I kinda missed the ball with these. lol My first ever computer was a hand-me-down that had Windows Me on it. And unfortunately, I do remember having instability and crashing issues. It was only after I had my first DIY computer in 2011 that had Windows 7 on it. And since then, my experiences with Windows have been rock solid since then.
For sure, most times the issues were driver related. Drivers back in the day were released quickly, and even when you got them - troubleshooting always a bit more difficult compared to today (the internet).
Windows 2000 was my gaming OS for several years until I finally migrated to XP. I still have a retro gaming PC today running Win 2k (mainly because of issues activating XP in 2023). Runs just fine, completely stable.
That's awesome!!
Hello.... It seems that I saw a CZcams video on activating XP using all 00000 (zero)s for the COA number and did not require activating over internet or phone.... I need to hunt that down again. There seems to be a lot of interest in old operating systems since Microsoft is spying on everyone. It must be for the Pentagon!
oh nice idea for a video! i love that tower.
I actually got my MCSA in Windows 2000 (workstation, sever, infrastructure) lol
Nice!!! Yup, have to cover all sorts of topics :)
glad to see 2000 content it deserves some review as it is the only version of windows that has dna in linux builds such as react os so it must be very stable :)
It was quite stable and well received in the business world. It created the foundation for XP and 7!
Nice computersystem with Windows2000. Greetings from Steven from the Netherlands
Thanks Steven!
I think that most of us have dual booted the Windows 2000 back in the day. Great OS ;)
Win 9x was also good, but it was already showing the age even at the end of the 90s.
Agreed!
Got it the day it went retail. It's the last version with the OS/2 subsystem. It was so delayed in the deathmarch that was NT 5.0. By the time 2000 shipped Cairo had failed (yet again) and the updates, and option pack + IE's for NT 4 was just too much. 2000 had all the COM objects which took forever to register during install but changed the way you could program the OS, however .Net made it all more usable. In the professional world it's the first DDNS/Active Directory version and it was great for massive networks! Sadly all the RISC CPU's didn't make the cut, the Alpha64 wasn't public and there was that one preview for Itanium.. It's the last significant 32bit version of NT for me, afterwards with XP64 & 2003 Itanium/x64 it was all 64bit for me onwards.
Nice. Always a journey to release back then. Now they have one os and just give updates haha.
I always woshed i jad a old computer but my parents say no but soon when i get a laptop ill be downgrading to wimdows XP my dad always says why do you want a old computer? I say i like but this was amazing!
Absolutely! These old systems were so much fun and you also got to see where the hardware that we have today came from!
@@TheRetroRecall true!
i remember getting Windows Me only to find out it was Windows 98 again only rushed and much worse than 98 itself (though i haven't had much problems myself). 2000 fixed the problem in a mere matter of minutes and we didn't care if it was business use or not because they were hiding something far better for us than Windows Me! fantastic OS at the time.
Agreed! It just worked!
Better voice than Alexa and Siri. I want this lol. I love the look of this Windows OS and the color choice during those times, purple, pink and blue.
100%!! Win2k was such a dream to work with at the time.
Retrorecall can Setup DVD with USB on Windows 98 on 86box
Nice!
3am 1998, you're excited, 5am, you're swearing
Hahaha!
my first visit to Microsoft campus was two weeks before the release of Windows 2000 RTM, I was working at Office Depot selling computers so they wanted to make sure that sales people knew the difference, I still have my copy of the OS they gave me back then, I wish I had kept the sleeve they gave me for it
That's awesome!! What an experience... Not going to lie, I'm jealous!
Wish I had more stories like it, but things are less impressive now that I work at MS :D@@TheRetroRecall
I used Windows 2000 on my main PC through 2017. I finally had to upgrade to something else because by then, web browser support just wasn't good enough for the modern internet. Didn't run any antivirus of any kind and as far as I know I never once got a virus. I'm now on Windows 7 and will probably milk that for as long as I can get away with.
I lived Win2k, and of course 7 was no slouch!
I used to find windows 2000 so elegant and cool as kid, we had win 98, later i got my very own pentium 3 machine with win 2000, it was a server that my father's workplace stopped using and handed to him, i had to stop my dad from downgrading it.
Awesome! Hopefully you got lots of use out of it!!
I went from 98 to ME, after 2 days said no. Went back to 98, then a week later went to 2000 and was very happy. Then in 2002 went to xp.
Nice!! Windows 2000 was great.
I built my first PC in 1999 and used Windows 98 initially, once service pack 4 came out for Windows 2000 I used it for a while because I tried installing XP when it came out and my PC would keep freezing, It met the requirements but I had to wait for a Bios update for it to be reliable. Windows 2000 was great and I loved it had XP not came right away I would have used it much longer
Agreed! It was extremely stable and I had wished I used it more but like you did, I went to XP
i have windows me on my compaq presario 5003 as that's what it was shipped with.....my wifes uncle had it and gave just about everything it came with save the keyboard and monitor. i even have the receipts and the comp usa ad he got it from......saved all these years. my setup came with the jbl pro detachable speakers that could mount to the minitor....wish i had that monitor.
Awesome! Is it still in use today?
yes it is@@TheRetroRecall
Great video
Thanks!
We ran Windows 2000 Pro on the family PC for short time (a Celeron 300A that my very knowledgeable brother talked my parents into buying because he knew how well it overclocked) and it felt completely world changing coming from Win 95, especially having skipped Windows98. It was so stable and feature loaded. It felt like how Windows should have been for years. Even when XP launched I was still happy with 2000.
I love reading these stories.... It really brings the nostalgic memories back in me as well! I had the Celeron 300 and OCd it to 450... Man that outperformed a lot of other CPUs at the time. Lots of cooling required though :)
Correction. Windows 2000 doesn't require NTFS but will work best under NTFS. Infact if you do the upgrade from 98, after the install you can run a command prompt to from within Windows to convert to NTFS.
I stand corrected. I actually do remember that option now that you say it.
It did'nt work that much faster if you where from FAT32 to NTFS - it's just the mapping things that would be a bit more optimised.
I just restored an old home pc with P4 to working condition and installed Win2K, because I saw that it was very stable. I think it's a good fit for a 1998-2001 kind of PC. It may not look the best, but I'll take stability over looks any day. The Snappy Driver Installer is a great suggestion, because I need the video card drivers to be properly configured before I can use the 64MB GeForce 2 MX-400 on it. After this I have plans to see and learn what this system is capable of running.
This is great to hear, great work! Glad to hear snappy worked for you - it's white a nice utility. Good luck on your build and testing. Looking forward to hearing more!
Now there's projects you could checkout being made to try and restore windows updates. There's windows update restored which is restoreing windows updates for Windows 95, NT4, 98, ME, 2000, and XP. like it was 1999 up to 2004.
And then there's legacy update which is a community-run resource to help you fix access to the internet and the Windows Update service on earlier versions of Windows. Which is Compatible with Windows 2000, XP, Vista, 7, 8, 8.1, 10, and 11 (including equivalent Windows Server releases) All Windows editions (Professional, Home, Media Center Edition, etc.) 32-bit, 64-bit, and Itanium processors.
Thanks for this! I am aware of both - such great projects!
Windows 2000 was a great OS. At home I had dual boot. Win 98 for video editing and Win 2K for everything else as I wasn't a gamer. At work at the time we bought some new HP desktops with Win 98 on them but found that it did not suit so they were all upgraded to Win 2K.. You know 1 disk , 10 machines. I still have a Win 2K install on a VM here.
Thanks for sharing and I agree. There's got to be a way to use it today.. Holding onto the past! Haha.
I enjoyed windows 2000 professional and my favourite os.
I used it quite a bit back in the day and it just felt right - it worked!
I used W2K on an old netbook I had. Windows 7 SP1 struggled on that 1.5GHz Atom, but W2K flew.
It really was a great OS!
I love Acros II. It's my go to for the Fujifilm GA645Zi. My go to developer is Agfa Rodinal 1+50 and stand at 1+200 for art. However, I do miss the original Acros, especially for architecture.
Was this meant for the win2k install video?
@@TheRetroRecall sorry, it was meant for David Hancock's video. How it ended up here, I have no idea. Probably watch later auto play is my guess. Sorry
Haha no need to be sorry!! :)
@@TheRetroRecall you were probably totally wondering what the heck I was talking about lol
Hahah 100%! :)
I still use Windows 2000 on a 35W 3rd Gen i5 dedicated to running a Canoscan 9900F film scanner. Low power, speedy, no crashes, no drama.
That sounds.... Peaceful! I wish we had similar experiences in today's world... Linux? :)
Windows 2000 was indeed a very stable system. I still look at it from the business perspective, because in that time I was managing complete networks. So - On top of Windows 2000 server , I was also managing the Novell Netware 4.1 and UNIX systems. I think Windows 2000 was one of the best stable user systems. I was in a mixed hardware environment where we also used Sun hardware, but everyone preferred the Windows workstations.
At the time I was transferring at home from Acorn RiscOS to Windows, but also dabbled with with that (at that time) rough Linux installations. Strange enough I still have RiscOS running, but now on the Raspberry Pi 400 (and even faster than on the original Acorn RiscPC hardware). I still use Windows (Windows 10 at the moment), but mainly Linux (Mint Cinnamon). That last one probably because of my UNIX background because , although there are some big differences, Linux is "familiar ground" for me. At the moment I am also doing "retro" stuff, because I am restoring my first computer (Cosmac Super Elf) and my old Acorn Atom back to full working order...
Awesome! Thanks for sharing this. Please let me know how you do with your retro builds!
@@TheRetroRecall Sure I will. At this moment I am waiting for a shipment of tantalium caps (and some other parts) for the Cosmac Super Elf, because the old ones looked very suspicious with some very thin cracks. Not that strange, because the board is from somewhere in between 1978 and 1979.
my win2k uptime record was almost a year it was solid as a rock
Holy! I've never gone that long.. I think maybe 6 or 7 months. Nice!
@@TheRetroRecall it was my DNS/mail and FTP server running on a 286 233mhz / celeron 300a
That would explain the uptime requirement.. Nice build! I enjoyed the Celeron myself. 286?
@@TheRetroRecall I recall at the time having a p2b-f and a 300a overclocked
And you could overclock those quite high. As long as you had adequate cooling of course haha.
Going to watch this soon. But. I’ve always liked W2000pro.
Would use that instead of ME. Then again. I never really gave ME a chance I. The past.
Maybe sometime down the road. I’ll restore a pc and out ME on it. Just give it my best. Some have had problems with that windows. Some never did.
Stay safe budd :)
I was one of the ones that never had issues with ME. Then again I had decent hardware and the latest drivers. My friend however had nothing but issues. I loved Win2k though.. Somehow it just felt superior.
Take care!
@@TheRetroRecall 100% agree re:w2k. It did feel that way didn’t it.
Absolutely.
9:36 That beige Dell remind me with Druaga1 + Quantum BigFoot + Windows ME
Haha it's funny how these systems bring back certain memories.
@@TheRetroRecall yeah
My favorite version of Windows. I ran it until forced to XP when some things stopped being supported by it.
Agreed. It was a great OS, however I also loved XP :)
Even Windows 2000 was vulnerable for the "Net send * Somemessage" on a Lan party. Good old times.
Hahaha I remember doing that quite a bit. Good times indeed!
@@TheRetroRecall
@echo off
:1
net send * somemessage
goto :1
= Fun lmao.
Lmao!!!
Very helpful video.
Awesome!
Back then, Windows was clearer and limited to the bare essentials. Today it is bloated, spies and secretly installs games and other programs that no one needs. Some of my friends used Windows 2000 at the time. They liked it.
I wish it was still viable today. I would still use it, so simple!
As a result of my job, I went from windows NT4, to windows 2000, to XP, to windows 7.
Now that I am retired, I use Linux.
Sounds like you had the solid OS path and wouldn't have had to deal with too many challenges.
I always hear people complaining about Windows 2000 and ME but I never had the problems with either OS that others had.
Agreed!
Maybe I’m wrong, but I never recall the initial boot post install being in a low resolution like 95/98. I think generic video driver compatibility was decent even on first release.
I never thought about that before to be honest. Must have been!
I have never had problems with windows ME, so I feel safe to say I am a happy customer of ME (despite the fact i am currently in high school and i got it second hand)
That's cool! As long as you had the hardware and the right drivers, it should work just fine for you! Happy retro computing!
@@TheRetroRecall thanks! I already knew how to install windows 2000 but i wanted to see how you would do it and I really like how your tutorial holds your hand every step of the way so total respect!
Happy to help!! Stick around, I tend to ramble a lot... But I try to walk everyone through the process. :) I hope you enjoy the other videos as well and learn something along the way!!
Since I always been a hardcore Dos person I never fell for win2000, I tried it and quickly went back to 98, I was even waiting for a long time after the release of XP to use this as a main computer OS. At this time however I slowly started to have collected more computer stuff making it possible to use more computers which in the end still runs 98 in the computers I still use today and then I went over to use XP for a while and directly go to Win7 when it had release. Today only one computer I mainly use have Win7 and it is actually in need of upgrade but the hardware will not work properly with 10 so I gonna have to upgrade the whole computer as soon as I can. But in truth Dos and win98 always gonna have a place in my heart and I will practice this as long as I can too and play my old favorite games on these computers the way it was intended :)
Love everything about this comment.
i still have that same looking Dell Pc there. LOL with Windows 2000. I wonder if it would boot up. i remember it being a Pentium II that goes into a slot on main board.
Just make sure you look at the PSU before firing it up. I did on one of the other one of these and there were flames! Good luck.
2K Professional was the OS I lived by.
I found it to be a pretty great OS.
Was a beta tester for Microsoft since Win95 so got a pre-release version of Win 2000 to install and thought it was great. Still a little buggy but at the time it was great. Found that it was able to play about 80% of the games that worked for me in Win98 after changing the game .exe to use "Compatibility mode". Otherwise it is like a 40% chance.
Would I go back to using Win2000 again? Maybe just for fun. The newer versions of Win like 7 or 10 can do everything 2000 can do and more especially works with Plug and Play.
Agreed. It does feel good to use it though. Feels reliable and just simple.
I originally went with Windows ME. later I discovered W2K and found it was the same thing.... never had any problems with either edition... and once XP came out, these were kept as a backup system. and the battle over speed continued.... now in 2023.... we have W10 and 11, wonder what W12 is going to look like, or will Linux take over......
Haha all very fair points! I used to get excited over OS releases, now I'm considering going to a Linux distro for that rush lol.
I had no idea way back then that there was a difference between command prompt in Windows 2000 and Windows 98. One day I had a not so nice person prove it to me that Windows 2000 command prompt is not MSDOS. That was back when I was 18 and thought I knew everything.
Hahah same!!!
Win 2k was a very good and stable OS (at least for SP4 that I mostly used). I even used Win2k instead XP until SP3 came out for XP. It had a very small memory usage (I managed to run it on a 128M P2@233 and it used around 48M), it was stable (did I mentioned that?) and for games - being dos games or windows games - it was great. I guess the max directX supported was DX7 or DX8 but for most games it was just enough. I never run into a game that did not ran on Win2k while I used it. Also, driver wise, it was very compatible with most of the old and new hardware, and as a bonus, many XP drivers were suported and installed just fine on Win2k. I upgraded my old NT4 server to Win2k Server and I used it until the hardware died. As a daily driver, it had the best from Win9x and NT worlds.
Fun fact, the path to upgrade Win9x was Win98->WinME->Win2k or Win98->Win2k. Win2k did not upgraded to WinME even on a FAT32 HDD partition, because it was considerred a major version than WinME.
Great info, thank you!
its direct x 9.0c officially i think though a lot were that era. Not certain if the XP mod to get fake DX10 to trick some games into working on it would work on 2k as well but it'd be a interesting experiment. You'd still be stuck with a 2 TB hdd limit unless someone has modded XP/vista support into that part of 2k (XP is 3 tb, not certain if Vista, 7, 8.1 have a limit other than what the motherboard would have)
@@patg108 Officially forXP max DX version was indeed DX9.0c, altough I remember hearing about some unofficial DX10 mods for XP that I never used (bu the time I needed DX10 for a game, I already ran Win7). Yes, DX9 installs well on Win2k and I am sure because I installed and used DX9 games on Win98SE. About HDD size, as long as the partition type is MBR, I think that any size will be recognized up to 2TB. I have few 5TB Seagate portable HDDs that are not recognized under XP so I guess not under Win2k also, they are partitioned as GPT. While I have many old HDDs in good condition, I like to use them in my retro builds, most of them are from 60G to 160G and that is What I mostly used to install Win2k,XP, Vista or 7; for Win9x I mostly use HDDs from 20G to 40G as boot disk, formatted FAT32 and I never had any problems booting or accessin the filesystem .
@@sebastian19745 its also the same for 98 SE, ME, and i think win2k too
And like i said XP's partition type (unless a mod exists to extend it past 3 TB that's the limit)
They'd have to be NTFS or Fat32 for 2k/XP (well i think fat16 would also work technically)
XP might take more than 3 TB if the partitions are 3 TB or less
But the point of the suggestion is how far can 2k be modded? How far can it go? Even to the point of modding the mods and XP drivers to work on 2k?
And also after all that's done how well can it handle the modern web and more modern games than it normally could? (meaning XP to vista era or early 7 era perhaps games)
I agree with all of you. Win2k was the best windows ever made.I think they should bring support back.
But they wouldn't make money then lol.
Just catching up to this video clip now, I've fallen behind with my viewings this week & had a gastro bug yesterday.
As for Windows 2000 I never got to use it at home but got to use it on college campuses, it's a lovely retro OS to use!
Yes! Also, I hope you are feeling better today!!
@@TheRetroRecall Definitely better than I was, just gotta keep my fluids up. Gastro can leave you dehydrated!
I LOVED Win 2k SP4.
My first IT job in 2k3, Everyone's Desktops/Laptops and all Servers in the Office, we're either Win 2k or RedHat
I Ran Tiger Woods & Quake III Arena like a Beast!
Awesome!! Not going to lie... I'm going to try out some games on it haha.
@@TheRetroRecall We had 7 Win2k Dell Dual Xeon CAD/CAM Stations all linking to a RedHad Quake III Server for Lunch Frag Sessions Daily
Ok, now I'm jealous. I have the systems.. I could totally setup a network for gaming!
I used windows 2000 for games
Nice.
Windows 2000 is based of NT and NT systems don't run on dos like 9x ones, while installing it it removes ms-dos but i think its still possible to run those games and programs in compatibily mode.
You are correct. If you leave the file system fat32, you could use a boot disk for those games. However compatibility mode seemed to work fine for any obstacles I had at the time.
Should install the server version on a core2duo (high end) or a i3/i5/i7 and have fun with it. To see how it fares with modernish processors and tasks, Then go through 3rd party mods to show how it still handles things. And i know it doesn't support hyperthreading (but it will see it as another cpu when changed) And since it supports multiple cpus (at least the server versions) it should be interesting to see how it handles 4 or more cores
Might well think you're using a board with 4 processors or more. There's also gpus that are far newer than it but still have support (titan series or the 900 series i think had support for 2k, at least XP)
And there is a program that allows it to run XP (i think there's one that allows XP to run vista as well, not certain if it goes further than that). but it'd be interesting to do that, give it lots of ram (2k doe shave a 64 bit version as does NT). Also the option of a antivirus (old version that can still get the modern updates, avg i think)
Would be fun for a quirky build to see how 2k still handles modern times. There'd probably be more esp with the XP hack app. And possibly modifying XP drivers to work on 2k too (if they don't already).
It'd then also be interesting to see how it still handles things like youtube and web browsing
Interesting build idea!! Thanks for this. I thought while using it, it would be great if this was the OS today - so clean and simple. I may give it a try! Thanks for watching!
@@TheRetroRecall would be interestin g to see how it fares in modern times, i may of missed some concepts in other modding win2k videos, and the hardware may well be able to be better than that with XP driver support. XP is unofficially supported up to skylakei think
I wonder if I had used Windows 2000 instead Windows ME it would ease up my migration to Windows XP? I really liked ME, but didn't had to experience anything before it until much later.
I guess it all depended on your setup, however I never had any issues with Win ME. I loved 2k though, so fast, efficient and reliable :)
I ran Win 2k from day one, P2 400, 384mb of ram and 2 ide hdds running on a hacked promise ide controller card that was turned into a raid controller. Very fast and rock stable.
Nice!!!!
I got in on the beta of Windows 2000 and pretty much immediately switched from OS/2 v4. Windows 2000 gave me the stability of OS/2, the 32 bit multi-tasking of OS/2, the gaming compatibility of OS/2, and didn't have the limitation of the single input queue.
Awesome!
The last word I'd ever use to describe OS/2 is STABLE
@@markkoops2611 It was very stable for me. I used to run games like Wing Commander and Doom while downloading QWK packets (remember them?) in the background.
I don't have a lot of experience with OS2, however I did an OS2 installation video and it was extremely difficult (in my experience). Maybe they got a bit better as the versions progressed.
@@TheRetroRecall The only time I had an installation problem was during the beta for 2.0 when I had two SCSI adapters in my PC and my boot drive was linked to the one that appeared second in config.sys.
Hi, i came across a box of these Windows 2000 pro at my job at my job.
All desktops were Pentium 4 HP's , and later we found out that each PC had a EOM win200 installed from HP and the dealer had conned our boss into purchasing 10-15 separate licenses
So he gave them all away to family and staff
I ended up with one in 2002 i upgraded from Pentium 3 to pentium 4 - i kept the old machine and decided to use the win2000
it installed easy enough and work rock solid until i purchased a new machine with core2duo - that machine i used winxp
While the P4 ( and i now have several connected up in the garage for lan party and pizza ) work fine with winxp - i never really missed out on much by using the win2000 - it was very stable
Nice and thanks for sharing! Glad you benefited from the over purchase of the OS.
Ik you probably won’t read this but do you know what version of snappy works on 2000 as apparently the original has malware now and origin doesn’t say it supports 2000 but I don’t have it installed to test
I read absolutely every comment and reply to everyone as well! That said, I'm not sure what version runs on Windows 2k. I think I tried it and it wasn't working very well. I would suggest going tot heir website checking out their guides, or possibly there's an older version on archive.org :)
Windows 2000 Professional was my very first introduction to “3D Pinball: Space Cadet.”
Awesome!! Simpler times haha.
Win2K pro my favorite OS!
Agreed!!
I’ve upgraded from Windows 98 to 2000 and the installer will convert your drive to NTFS, it didn’t take too long.
Yes, this is something that I remembered after it was pointed out to me. I guess ie as always in the practice of formatting it properly and starting from. Scratch for the best results. That said, I'm sure there are times I upgraded and converted the drive.
Oracle installer, no issues on Windows 2000 PRO
great OS !
Agreed!
I stuck with 2k for ages from 98SE. It did everything. ME was a joke. I started xp over a year after It was introduced.
If it wasn't 10, 2000 was my fave.
I had a similar journey. Loved 2k!
❤lthe video! I have memories of Win 2k a lot in school. I am curious where do you get boxed copies of old software/OSs and period correct hardware. Amazon doesn’t have and I am in a fixed income so kind of hard to come across
I am fortunate to have collected and saved over the years. I also have friends, family who donate to the channel. Keep your eyes out at thrift stores, online marketplaces, etc.. You never know what you might find. :). Thanks for watching!
Been there, done that.
On my work computer i holded back for some time but one day i jumped at deep water.
My suprise reflection was that by whole 12h day i didn't reboot or use reset button.... It was so strange feeling....nice but strange....
Hahahah or days if you really wanted to!
I always coped the I386 folder to C:\ and ran wnnt command to install windows, then you didn't need the cd when doing updates or drivers :)
Smart - never thought about that. However at least you can say I kept it an authentic install lol.
I think when Windows 2k came out, they didn't have auto run cd's yet. Had to use a Floppy. but DAMN i can't remember every fine detail ! @@TheRetroRecall
But Win2k doesn't require CD in most of cases, because it had own system named 'dllcache'. Copying i386 is remnant of older days, when 9x asks for CD nearly every day and even it isn't a mistake, there are no reason to do this
Hahaha but I think it did lol... I think you are right.
@@JasonsLabVideosNo, they definitely had bootable cds by then. You only needed a floppy on systems that didn't support booting from cd-rom.
Windows 2000 is the only Windows I didn't hate.
It was also the first version of Windows that didn't suck at Video/Audio editing. (could actually handle files larger than 4gb)
For sure. For me it just felt very robust and just worked.
@@TheRetroRecall I got it very shortly after it was released and ran it as primary until 2011
tried Vista, went back immediately, XP, same, 7 was tolerable. just felt like a bloated version of 2000. Just recently started using win10 (work computer only) but the primary has been some flavor of Linux w/ KDE Since 2011 and windows has been restricted to VMs inside Linux for the most part. only the work computer runs windows natively.
Nice! I was an Ubuntu user in and out for many years however always went back to Windows - mainly because it was just mindless to use.
i made my self a win2k build, with 4gb(3.5) ram and core2 duo. runs super fast :)
Still on a HDD as i haven't figured out how to get the sata ports recognized with drivers.
I will always use spinning rust as long as I have the drives haha.