Videos like this really help me stay in tune with my vision. I can tell when the spasm happens now for sure. Learn from Jake, life will never be the same again lol, now im wondering how much my presbyopia is holding my active focus back. I can do it pretty well but could it be better?
Ha! Good simple test. Try telling that one to an optician, though. It's called a cilliary spasm. Perfectly normal. Nothing to be worried about.... Yada yada... It may actually be worth checking whether it's in just one eye or both by covering one eye at a time when you do the test. I would also add that it's worth checking how quickly it happens. Eg. if it comes after, say, just half an hour of close work then the minus is waay too much or there may be a need for plusses if you don't wear glasses.
I also practice after focus by looking at the kitchen digital clock from the living room and that gives me just a bit of a blur but after I blink it focuses and I can see it.
I think I have a Ciliary spasm in my left eye that has locked up my left eye. I've been taking regular breaks, but no real change. DO you suggest I stop using this eye for close up work while I practice distance vision to help it heal?
I've also noticed eye strain and headaches recently The optometrist prescribed - 1 and - 0. 5 for my eyes Even tho I can still function without em(and thankfully I don't wear em) So shall I keep the distance vision till the eye strain go away or take the glasses and normalize em and start from em? Jake? Guys? Any thoughts
Jake I am 18 years old . I have myopia and I have -1.5. on both eyes . As I am a student a have to watch many close stuffs like books or screen . So my question is should I wear my glasses to see close objects.
I've signed up to the 7 day email course and letting it all sink in. The somewhat jaded and world-weary schtick - with all that huffing and puffing - brings me down a bit. I like the content but its like watching Humphrey Bogart in Cassablanca... C'mon man, there's got to be a smile waiting to come out - life's not so bad is it??
I'm a big fan of your work! I have -1.00 diopters in both eyes and I would very much like to improve my vision seeing how it's already "so close" to being "perfect." What do you suggest for someone like me?
@@johnyu903 Lmao dis dood he definitely did and never came back to this channel again ORRRR is an active member in the le Meow forumss and trying to help others
That's the essential pillar. But there are many little things one has to learn in order to fully utilize this realization. For example, one may lose months doing this in a certain way then realizing the right way. I recommend watching the other videos on this channel and reading the end myopia .org website, there's so much there for free. Not to mention the paid program which is even better, for organization of content and members forum.
Otie Brown active focus as in wearing plus diopters for close work right? Why can't i just keep lowering my perscription to the point where the lines become slightly blurred. ( my current perscription is -2 diopter. But i need a -.5 for upclose to make it a blurr challenge, but still readable.) According to his theory, i should see improvements right?
Is it possible Im having a permanent ciliary spasm effect? I never strain my eyes as I have .good vision habit, yet my eyesight is always so god damn blurry
@@stefanSS1480 Axial elongation happens even without wearing glasses. Once its there, its impossible (for most people) to get rid of it completely. You could partially reverse it, eliminating ciliary spasm at the same time, but getting all the way back to clear, permanent 20/20 in the OD´s will most likely be impossible. Sorry to disappoint but thats the truth. I´ve never seen anyone go from -2.00 to 0.00 objectively. What I mean is, this method MAY work for some, but certainly not all the way to permanent clear 20/18 vision just like normal people
@@kingbaliyan7809 Its not a scam, its an experiment, and you´d be better to try it. (Not guaranteed to work, but worth a shot of course). But anyway, its almost always recommended to not wear your minus lenses for nearwork when possible (or have a weaker prescription for near, if you cant read without your glasses)
So the ciliary muscle gets stuck with too much close up every day. Question: does science know if the eye elongates as a nature's way to "give a break" to the ciliary muscle? And does science know how the eye elongates anyway, physically speaking? Thanks!
Just wondering about the mechanism of how the eye elongates physically, but that might not be that important. Just knowing the cause (too much closeup) is amazing realization. Thanks Jake and Otie.
I had the same question Levy, and I haven't come across an answer yet lol. Do muscles stretch the eye when it receives the elongation stimulus? Does the tissue itself somehow move and change? May have to read some studies to find out, but I'm not sure I want the answer that bad...
Yes, Ayverie, that's a intriguing thing to me! Perhaps science will be able one day to find out a (natural and elegant) way to increase the ciliary muscle's elasticity so myopia would be really less common, and current myopes can recover their eyesight faster. I know for one that acupuncture helps with improving eyesight, but in my experience the daily (bad) habits reverse the improvement gained from acupuncture. Cheers!
Another question I have: What happens when you put on some strong minus glasses now (For example your old -5 glasses)? Is everything still 20/20-sharp or do you get hyperoptic (overcorrected) blur?
he will see very blurry, and I assume he will just get headaches since -5 is far far stronger than 0.0 meaning that the eye give up for trying to adapt to the lense.
Abdul Rehman I think its ok cuz im currently at -4.75 both eye but im wearing -3.75 with -1 astigmatism And I could see some improvement throughout these 3 weeks
@@paramjeetthakkar7088 not well at all, had to move to -4.25, couldn't continue with the previous ones, became difficult with every passing year. 2019 -4.00 2020 -4.25 Hopefully yours is going better.
I get bad distance vision after a while. :) Oh, what a surprise. Well, I still think the ciliary muscle is in it's "distance mode" when doing close up work with blur. But the muscle/visual cortex thing is probably confused by the close up blur and tries to adjust the whole time and thus spasms.
I have a problem with this video. This won't work for everyone, a lot of people are already in ciliary spasm. So the near won't change anything because they're already in ciliary spasm.
The ciliary spasm can always get worse from my understanding and experience depending on how long you do close up work and how close it actually is. However, every time you go to sleep your eye muscles relax. The next morning your eyes should be at their best about 5-10 mins after waking up. The ciliary spasm won't be completely undone but since your eyes are more relaxed in the morning, when you spend the morning looking at distant objects and giving your eyes a good range of focal lengths to look at - it helps them to automatically focus on different distances throughout the rest of the day. The problem is that most people wake up and look at their smart phones etc which is one of the worst things we can do to our eyes in the morning.
you don't understand how muscle fibers work then. Muscles are either contracted, or they're not, they cant keep going more and more. And actually, a lot of people hold onto that strain even in sleep. Your right about focusing on distant objects though. I think the worst thing about screens is they are flat and static. At least other close up tasks have different dimensions so that muscle isn't completely static
Exotic Parallel I thought the point of the ciliary muscle is to adjust the shape of the lens for near and far vision? Surely there would have to be differing levels of contraction to focus the image appropriately? Edit: nvm, I did some research on the old Google and you are right haha. That just gives me more questions... Hmm.
Good on you for admitting that. Muscles use a short term energy storage called glycogen to move. And remember you have hundreds of thousands to millions of Muscle cells in your eyes and they adjust when the light doesn't hit the retina in near focus
Jake you killed me with cuteness, the ending is so ADORABLE 🥰.
Little Jake in the car! :) Nice vid Jake
Videos like this really help me stay in tune with my vision. I can tell when the spasm happens now for sure. Learn from Jake, life will never be the same again lol, now im wondering how much my presbyopia is holding my active focus back. I can do it pretty well but could it be better?
Hard to believe we have vegan and paleo doctors but no optometrists that talk about any of this
Some do. Behavioral optometry. But I don't really know of any who have it fully sorted and reliably producing results.
Premiere Inn! I recognize that type of room :)
Great video ❤️❤️❤️
Before gaming for 3 hours using eye chart eye sight was around 20/50
And after Gaming for 3 hours it's more than 20/70 sometimes
20/100
Ha! Good simple test. Try telling that one to an optician, though. It's called a cilliary spasm. Perfectly normal. Nothing to be worried about.... Yada yada... It may actually be worth checking whether it's in just one eye or both by covering one eye at a time when you do the test. I would also add that it's worth checking how quickly it happens. Eg. if it comes after, say, just half an hour of close work then the minus is waay too much or there may be a need for plusses if you don't wear glasses.
Thanks a lot Jake
I also practice after focus by looking at the kitchen digital clock from the living room and that gives me just a bit of a blur but after I blink it focuses and I can see it.
I think I have a Ciliary spasm in my left eye that has locked up my left eye. I've been taking regular breaks, but no real change. DO you suggest I stop using this eye for close up work while I practice distance vision to help it heal?
I've also noticed eye strain and headaches recently
The optometrist prescribed - 1 and - 0. 5 for my eyes
Even tho I can still function without em(and thankfully I don't wear em)
So shall I keep the distance vision till the eye strain go away or take the glasses and normalize em and start from em?
Jake?
Guys?
Any thoughts
Jake I am 18 years old . I have myopia and I have -1.5. on both eyes . As I am a student a have to watch many close stuffs like books or screen . So my question is should I wear my glasses to see close objects.
I've signed up to the 7 day email course and letting it all sink in. The somewhat jaded and world-weary schtick - with all that huffing and puffing - brings me down a bit. I like the content but its like watching Humphrey Bogart in Cassablanca... C'mon man, there's got to be a smile waiting to come out - life's not so bad is it??
Noted. Even if not a schtick. Having chats with cameras, not fitting everyone’s limited personalities. 😬
I'm so glad that Jake isn't trying to sell me an e-book. I look forward to learning from this content. Seems legit.
+Evan D Thanks for the kind words, Evan. No eBook! ;)
@@akashdeepbhattacharjee4017 No for sure it can't. This is all just a giant ruuuuse.
I'm a big fan of your work! I have -1.00 diopters in both eyes and I would very much like to improve my vision seeing how it's already "so close" to being "perfect." What do you suggest for someone like me?
See the low myopia section of the blog.
Jake Steiner pls clarify to me what to do to improve my eyesight
so did you improve it after a year?
@@johnyu903 Lmao dis dood he definitely did and never came back to this channel again ORRRR is an active member in the le Meow forumss and trying to help others
Did u improve your eyesight???
Hey jake i have a query hope you will reply how far i have to stuck the snellen chart at wat distance?
Hey, according to your theory, wearing slightly weaker perscriptions, would make your eyes adjust to make that your eyes better?
That's the essential pillar. But there are many little things one has to learn in order to fully utilize this realization. For example, one may lose months doing this in a certain way then realizing the right way. I recommend watching the other videos on this channel and reading the end myopia .org website, there's so much there for free. Not to mention the paid program which is even better, for organization of content and members forum.
Levy Carneiro I've read many free blogs. that's the basis of it.
Otie Brown active focus as in wearing plus diopters for close work right? Why can't i just keep lowering my perscription to the point where the lines become slightly blurred. ( my current perscription is -2 diopter. But i need a -.5 for upclose to make it a blurr challenge, but still readable.) According to his theory, i should see improvements right?
@@holybruno how did this work out for u?
Is it possible Im having a permanent ciliary spasm effect? I never strain my eyes as I have .good vision habit, yet my eyesight is always so god damn blurry
If you wore glasses and have axial alongation - yes. If you don't do active focus - YES.
@@stefanSS1480 Axial elongation happens even without wearing glasses. Once its there, its impossible (for most people) to get rid of it completely. You could partially reverse it, eliminating ciliary spasm at the same time, but getting all the way back to clear, permanent 20/20 in the OD´s will most likely be impossible. Sorry to disappoint but thats the truth. I´ve never seen anyone go from -2.00 to 0.00 objectively. What I mean is, this method MAY work for some, but certainly not all the way to permanent clear 20/18 vision just like normal people
@@DoubleOpposite so it's means this whole endmyopia thing is a scam??
@@kingbaliyan7809 Its not a scam, its an experiment, and you´d be better to try it. (Not guaranteed to work, but worth a shot of course).
But anyway, its almost always recommended to not wear your minus lenses for nearwork when possible (or have a weaker prescription for near, if you cant read without your glasses)
While focussing on the chart , we need to wear specs?I have -3.5 on right and -4 on left
Did active focus help? Please reply please
So the ciliary muscle gets stuck with too much close up every day. Question: does science know if the eye elongates as a nature's way to "give a break" to the ciliary muscle? And does science know how the eye elongates anyway, physically speaking? Thanks!
Just wondering about the mechanism of how the eye elongates physically, but that might not be that important. Just knowing the cause (too much closeup) is amazing realization. Thanks Jake and Otie.
I had the same question Levy, and I haven't come across an answer yet lol. Do muscles stretch the eye when it receives the elongation stimulus? Does the tissue itself somehow move and change? May have to read some studies to find out, but I'm not sure I want the answer that bad...
Yes, Ayverie, that's a intriguing thing to me! Perhaps science will be able one day to find out a (natural and elegant) way to increase the ciliary muscle's elasticity so myopia would be really less common, and current myopes can recover their eyesight faster. I know for one that acupuncture helps with improving eyesight, but in my experience the daily (bad) habits reverse the improvement gained from acupuncture. Cheers!
Levy Carneiro how does acupuncture improve eyesight? Thanks
Another question I have: What happens when you put on some strong minus glasses now (For example your old -5 glasses)? Is everything still 20/20-sharp or do you get hyperoptic (overcorrected) blur?
he will see very blurry, and I assume he will just get headaches since -5 is far far stronger than 0.0 meaning that the eye give up for trying to adapt to the lense.
HELP ME
For the outdoor walks do you recommend normal or differential or no correction?
Hey jake , I have 0.50 prescription glasses , will taking break from screen or any close up work help ? Should I wear glasses?
Probably not the best thing to do.
Coooooooooooooooool.
I am currently at -4.25 diopters, but I am wearing prescription glasses of -3.75. Is it alright? Am I doing it Right?
Abdul Rehman I think its ok cuz im currently at -4.75 both eye but im wearing -3.75 with -1 astigmatism
And I could see some improvement throughout these 3 weeks
Firely The Tiger
Appreciate that!
How's your vision improvement journey going
@@paramjeetthakkar7088 not well at all, had to move to -4.25, couldn't continue with the previous ones, became difficult with every passing year.
2019 -4.00
2020 -4.25
Hopefully yours is going better.
Jake, does this also apply to closeup work when you are reading right beyond the edge of blur? Isn't your cilliary muscle fully relaxed?
Is it? Try it out.
I get bad distance vision after a while. :) Oh, what a surprise.
Well, I still think the ciliary muscle is in it's "distance mode" when doing close up work with blur. But the muscle/visual cortex thing is probably confused by the close up blur and tries to adjust the whole time and thus spasms.
Wish you would demo this technique
I have a problem with this video. This won't work for everyone, a lot of people are already in ciliary spasm. So the near won't change anything because they're already in ciliary spasm.
The ciliary spasm can always get worse from my understanding and experience depending on how long you do close up work and how close it actually is. However, every time you go to sleep your eye muscles relax. The next morning your eyes should be at their best about 5-10 mins after waking up. The ciliary spasm won't be completely undone but since your eyes are more relaxed in the morning, when you spend the morning looking at distant objects and giving your eyes a good range of focal lengths to look at - it helps them to automatically focus on different distances throughout the rest of the day. The problem is that most people wake up and look at their smart phones etc which is one of the worst things we can do to our eyes in the morning.
+Exotic Parallel That's true. Hence title, pro topic.
you don't understand how muscle fibers work then. Muscles are either contracted, or they're not, they cant keep going more and more. And actually, a lot of people hold onto that strain even in sleep. Your right about focusing on distant objects though. I think the worst thing about screens is they are flat and static. At least other close up tasks have different dimensions so that muscle isn't completely static
Exotic Parallel I thought the point of the ciliary muscle is to adjust the shape of the lens for near and far vision? Surely there would have to be differing levels of contraction to focus the image appropriately?
Edit: nvm, I did some research on the old Google and you are right haha. That just gives me more questions... Hmm.
Good on you for admitting that. Muscles use a short term energy storage called glycogen to move. And remember you have hundreds of thousands to millions of Muscle cells in your eyes and they adjust when the light doesn't hit the retina in near focus
Jake what's your opinion of Ortho-K?
Jose Acuna would like to hear his opinion, too
endmyopia.org/ortho-k-side-effects-nightmare/
It's actually about $300-$500 per lens (so x2 for both eyes), plus fitting fees etc. The lens should last a long time...
Jake Steiner did you used laser surgery ??
He didnt
😁
what? say again? this whole video? WHAT? english complex T_T
Hahah smoke brake