How I Set up the Canon R5 for Video - Do You Really Need 4K?
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- čas přidán 5. 08. 2024
- I will be the first person to admit that I am not a video expert, but after spending the last couple of months with the EOS R5 and learning everything I can from experts and hands-on use, I have ended up with a pretty good understanding of how to simplify some of the important points about using this camera for video.
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Simple, straight forward - love your informative videos!
Thanks, JR!
Thank you for the no nonsense instructional. Just got this camera - this was helpful. I subbed. I'll start drilling through your library. Good job!
Thanks Ed! Unfortunately nonsense is a big part of my charm, but I hope there are plenty of good things in there for you anyway! Appreciate your sub :)
I loved this video. your presentation style is awesome, quick but clear
Thanks very much! Appreciate you taking the time to watch :)
"I'm a simple guy when it comes to video...." Gary, you thought tons of numbers, proxy-files, log-modes and all the rest around like you've neven done anything else. FOR REAL :D I don't even know where to level myself - if you're simple. I'm impressed. I'll need to rewatch and take notes whenever I get to upgrade from mrk IV. Thank you so much for sharing!!
Thank you, you're very kind. I had a lot of help with this information.
the video i was looking for. Thank YOU!!!!!
No problem!
Simple presentation but very informative. More power to you mate!
Thanks!
Gary Hughes has done it again 10/10
Ummm, thanks?
Man you just saved me a bunch of time trying to figure this stuff out!
Happy to help!
Now that I finally have an r5, this was super helpful. Thanks Gary!
Glad to hear it! Don’t forget to make sure your firmware is up to date. There are new video settings like 4K IPB light that are excellent
Thank you so much! This will come in very useful if I ever get a camera.
You're very welcome! One day you might get one...just keep praying ;)
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The reason the regular 4K looks better in crop mode is that it's oversampling from 5.1K down to 4K. If you do some tests you'll see that it actually comes really close to the 4K HQ (in fact if you add a tiny bit of sharpening in post I bet you couldn't spot the difference). The advantage being that now you have no overheating warnings since this mode isn't limited by heat like HQ is. If you get used to using this crop factor, you'll find you can shoot all day long and never have to worry about heat and at the same time not sacrifice image quality.
Great tip!
Great info, thanks!
Happy to do it
Excellent!
Many thanks!
Hey man... I really liked your short tutorials. They were awesome
Soooo...the other stuff no good? I’m sure I will get to a few more of those, but I am always working out exactly what kind of channel I want this to be. I appreciate you tuning in
@@GaryHughesOfficial No, the other stuff is amazing. I just got so much out of your short tutorials. I thought they were excellent
I understand:)
Thanks for the Video. Great tip on saving space & time. I'm mostly a still photographer, but wanted to try out shooting some video as well. Most of what I will shoot would be viewed on a Computer, Tablet, or Phone so in those instances I may just use the 1080 setting to save the time & space.
Since I made this, they have added a compressed 4K IPB that is very good and saves loads of space. If you make sure your firmware is up to date, you can give it a shot!
Great video! New sub right here!!!
Awesome thank you! I appreciate having you on board :)
Hey Gary - great video! From what I can tell your channel already matters lol.... I have the R and am thinking about upgrading to the R5 so this was awesome. You totally surprised me when you said you were shooting on the RP cause it looks so clean. Was that 4K or 1080p? Based on what you said about talking head videos, I‘m guessing it was 1080p and if so, I’d saw its totally fine for YT and you proved your point! Would love to know for sure though! Think I‘ll hang around here for a bit while considering getting the R5... :-)
This video was shot in FHD 1080p on the RP. I think it’s a fantastic little camera and I use it a ton. The video isn’t quite as sharp or clear as the R5, but for $900 it’s pretty great
Great video
Thanks!
which video exposure mode are you using for this video? It affects which choices are available in the menus.
Manual exposure for video on the R5, that’s a great point
Thank you for posting this. I have a question about CF Express and SD cards. If I purchase the SanDisk 64GB Extreme PRO UHS-II SDXC Memory Card and the SanDisk 64GB Extreme PRO CFexpress Card Type B would they be enough if I plan to shoot stills mainly and rarely if at all video?
Yes, certainly should do the trick :)
@@GaryHughesOfficial Thank you.
Hi Gary, i know this video is a little old but i have a question. You said when you use 4K video crop mode, the image quality improves compared to regular 4k in full size, my question is, when you turn on the image digital stabilizer, and this feature crop the video, does the image quality improve also??? thanks!!!
It’s specifically in IPB compression that the cropped video looks better, but I’m not sure on your question. I would guess that the answer is no
Cool quick descriptions. One detail you missed which would be helpful to mention if you can punch it in is that your default video settings in photo and regular video modes are pegged to however you set Custom 3. That was driving me nuts, but there it is. C3 is the global "template", and you can modify settings from there in other modes but it will bounce back to your C3 settings of you power off until you modify those, either registering new ones or modifying directly if you enabled auto-update in Custom Modes.
Good to know, thanks
I am testing the R5 and the adaptor for EF lenses with ND filter included. I have a problem because the autofocus creates a horrible noise every second to focus with my 50mm 1.4 EF CANON lens. What is the problem?
In sorry, I wish I had an answer on this. My best guess is the lens might need service, but I would test it out with a different adapter if possible to eliminate other potential issues.
Thanks for the video! I thought it was not possible record C-Log 10-bit in FHD? Or is it being done in 4-2-0? Per your experience in grading files from this camera what’s the visible difference 4-2-0 vs 4-2-2? Is going from 8-bit to 10-bit a bigger deal?
It is definitely possible in FHD, I do it all the time :) I record to an SD card so it is 4:2:0, you need to use the CFexpress slot for 4:2:2. I don’t have any personal data on the difference between the two, but from what my research says, it’s significantly better
@@GaryHughesOfficial Thanks for your answer! It will be a great upgrade from my R's and 5D4. It's great when the YT-channels are a bit smaller dialog occurs : ) (not that would have anything against your channel getting big). I haven't used that curved reflector but I can see that there will be less retouching on people a bit up in their years. Looks when you place the key light to the side - a bit more shape to the face.
@@martinekwall4671 I enjoy interacting with people through YT, it is nice that the channel is small enough to be able to do it. My goal is really maybe 10k or so subscribers over the next couple of years, still small enough to be personal, big enough to matter :)
Gary what AF setting do you use for landscape or something that doesn't have people as the subject?
Great question. Depends on the shot and the lens, but I might manually focus or at least use the AF single point to get my focus then disable the AF to get the shot.
@@GaryHughesOfficial Yeah, ok. Thanks! I recently got the Crane 2S and using it with my Canon R5 and RF 15-35mm. I was using single point doing some non people video and was happy with it. Just wondered what you would use. Thanks again!!
@@tunaboy52 no problem!
Would love to see how you do a proxy, especially in Davinci Resolve, so one can shoot in log on a computer that can't handle H 2.65. Really enjoy your lessons!
I don’t actually use Resolve, switched to Final Cut Pro about a year ago from Premier
Hey, informative video great 👍, did you get overheating issues during 4K 60 and 120fps? How long can it shoot. Also does the 4K hq and normal 4K have major differences ?
To be honest, I have switched to shooting in 4K IPB light since they added it in the year since I made this video. No overheating issues as of yet. I only shoot short B-Roll clips in 60 so no overheating the way I use it. As far as HQ, I don’t have need for it as I mostly shoot talking head CZcams videos and the difference is pretty slight after YT gets done compressing it. A majority of people watch YT videos on their phones, which makes the ultra high resolution largely irrelevant unless you are cropping a bunch. Best bet with the R5 is to ask yourself how your shoot video. The answer to overheating is to use an external recorder which, in my experience, most serious video shooters do anyway. If you plan to use the R5 for a lot of serious video shooting with long record times, an external recorder/monitor is the way to go. If you are making causal YT videos, you shouldn’t see any problems overheating.
@@GaryHughesOfficial thanks 👍
No worries
Thank you so much Mr. Hughes fo this wonderful video. Wouldl I be able to shoot 10bit video on SD card?
Actually, yes, you get 10 bit 4:2:0 - but you need a CF express card to get 10 bit 4:2:2 - hope that helps!
@@GaryHughesOfficial wrong. You get 4:2:2 on sd card as well.
@@FLOWProd as I said, I'm no expert, just repeating what I was told by Canon. If that's bad info, we're just lucky that you were here to pitch in. CHeers!
Wait, the R5 can record FHD at 10bit 4:2:2? Is that correct or am I misunderstanding at 1:30?
From my conversation with people at Canon, yes. As long as you are shooting in LOG to a CF Express card
@@GaryHughesOfficial Thanks, would you know if it would work with an external recorder as well like the atomos ninja 5?
@@charlesnetzler2262 yes, the R5 definitely works with an external recorder. The ProRez format is actually a great option to make the footage easier to edit on a machine that doesn't decode h.265 natively as well :)
@@GaryHughesOfficial Awesome, thanks!
Could you help? what focus mode for videoing yourself!! I had mine on eye detection hoping that when I walked into the front of the camera it would pick me up, but unbelievably there was a picture behind me and it locked on that, so how do I make the camera pick my eye up immediately ? (don't say take the picture down LOL) I just don't want it to lock onto something else. Any advice would be great.
Hi Mark, I wish I could help you there, but without seeing what specific settings you are using and the scene you are truing to shoot, I can't give you accurate advice on that. There are about a zillion Facebook groups and YT videos on the R5 so I would check out a community and crowd-source it to see what comes back.Here is the link to a FB group where I get a lot of help facebook.com/groups/r5video/
Also, if you are a Canon Professional Services (CPS) member, you can call their support and get help with anything you need. Totally worth the $99 a year.
@@GaryHughesOfficial cheers 🥂
No worries!
Who named color spaces?! Tim who was NOT in marketing 🤣
Excellent and also truth
I am watching this to learn the settings to use, but I don't have as many options as you do. I wonder why? I have the R5 and don't have half of those options 😭
This happens sometimes. Have you made sure your camera is in video mode? Hit the mode button on top then hit the info button on the back. That will engage all the video functions. Let me know if that works :)
@@GaryHughesOfficial I had the same issue - the number of options/choices varies with the particular video mode you choose. Aperture priority vs Manual etc. Which do you normally use? I would curious as to the advantages and disadvantages of each. I shoot stills predominantly but with this camera hope to shoot more video so low on the learning curve.
Who is this guy? How does he know so much?!?!
If you get old enough you just know things
I just got the Canon R5 and editing in Davinci Resolve Studio 18 is a bitch, especially at 4K. I resorted to recording at FHD format in the camera to make it run smoothly in Davinci. I have a fast computer with a graphics card that has 12GB RAM and it's still sluggish at 4K. I don't even wanna try at 8K. After editing at FHD I export at 4K.
Are you shooting in Log? Shooting in log makes the files H.265 which needs hardware to decode properly. It may not be the resolution, but the codec slowing you down.
@@GaryHughesOfficial Yes, Clog3 to be exact. But have no problem in editing at 1080P FHD and converting to 4K. Don't know if Davinci Resolve has an upgrade to handle this situation for Canon's video's.
I would be interested to hear if it is specific to DaVinci. Have you used Premiere or FCPX as a comparison just to see?
I bought this camera and felt like I had to record everything in 8k! 2Tb and a week later I'm rethinking that choice.
It is very cool to be able to do, but not super practical for most things. Heck, even 4K is more than you need for a lot of things.
@@GaryHughesOfficial yes, for sure and even with my m1 Max with 64 gig of memory it's a pain in the butt to edit :-)
“I want the best quality but shoot in 1080” ha. I’ve found the 4K in IPB is better than 1080 all-I for me.
Cool!
Ho Tony! I want good quality, not the best, or I would shoot in 8k, right? My choice of settings has to do with balancing quality and file size. I agree the 4k, even in IPB, is better; but for talking- head YT videos, is it worth it considering all the extra storage space and rendering time? That's a choice everyone has to make. That being said, I am learning more about how to make great video every day. Thanks for watching.
Sorry, I started to watch because you said you were a novice - then you proceeded to cruise through all kinds of settings I cannot even find. I will come back to this video in a few months after I find a video for beginners.
okay I hear you. Make sure your camera is in video mode or many of those settings won't appear. Everything is easy to find once you do that :) Thanks for giving it a shot
I’m not a pro and I’m a recent owner of the R5, I’m using 1080p mode until I know what I’m doing.
The. Just recent firmware with the 4K IPB compressed is pretty great, I have started filming my videos in that mode :)
Yes I need 4k Jkjk I just like it
Since I made this video, they have added 4K IPB light to the R5 and it’s a great option to save space and still get 4K :)
Thanks, all really useful and interesting, but please slow down in your delivery. I feel breathless and tense trying to follow this race of yours.
Good thing you can watch as many times as you want! Lol, I’ve been told that before, but it’s just how I talk. Thanks for watching!
So why pay all that money for 1080
You shouldn't. The EOS R can do nicely. That being said, since recording this, Canon have updated the firmware to include a compressed IPB 4k that is much more manageable and the results are great. That being said, the FHD on the R5 can up-rez nicely to 4k and you have that 4k there when you need it for serious projects. Just a space/time saving measure :)
Why the f*** would you upres? What’s the point?
I think I explain it pretty well in the video, but there is another reason as well. A good number of people sort video results by 4K. It’s also fun just to see if anyone (or I) can tell the difference :) thanks for watching
@@GaryHughesOfficial in other words you want to trick people into thinking your content is a higher resolution than it really is?
@@MrWarwickJones lol, yes that's what my intent is. You got me, Matlock. The videos I produce are edited and output in 4k. Saying I'm tricking people is like saying that it's a trick to blow up a photo past its native resolution. I am taking advantage of the very high bitrate of the R5 video footage :)
@@GaryHughesOfficial blowing up a photo affects how people consume that photo: it makes the viewing size bigger.
Upresing a video changes nothing about how people consume that video: it doesn't increase the size of their screen, it doesn't increase the resolution on their screen, it just introduces artefacts and potentially misleads people about the product their buying.