101 Abandoned Homes & Buildings In North St. Louis City
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"101 Abandoned Homes & Buildings In North St. Louis City"
Filmed October 2018, January 2019
©2019 Dozenspeed Film Foundation Archive
DSVS-046
Original Public Release: March 8th, 2019
Music:
"Sad Minuet" by Sir Cubworth (DSVS 046 Extended Version)
Courtesy of the CZcams Audio Library
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Those were beautiful homes at one time and it’s sad to see how deteriorated and decayed they have become. That type of architecture will never come again. All we have now are flimsy-made, “cookie-cutter” houses which are easily damaged. It would be so nice to restore and preserve these historical houses for future generations. Yes, I understand it takes mega bucks to fix these old houses but it’s a shame the city doesn’t do anything to help these neighborhoods.
Back in 2005, the city where I live was giving incentives for people to move to the downtown area and purchase homes either for business or residential. I took the opportunity and purchased a 1898 Victorian cottage. Got some money from the city and was able to install refrigerated air. My house is now worth 4 times more than the initial purchase price. Thank you for the video. I loved seeing all those old houses and buildings. Greetings from west Texas 🌞🌵🌻
Problem is it is gang and crime infested, you would not be able to sell it for the cost of materials let alone the labor cost.
Subdivision houses are all plastic and particle board, no craftsmanship to be found
Phill Huddleston Look at a crime map many of these neighborhoods are completely abandoned, no stores or people around for miles. Only rely on perceptions when there is a lack of data.
@@marilynmonheaux6356 Not true, East St. Louis is mostly abandoned but not North St. Louis. Drive through any neighborhood and you will see plenty of people, yes there are a lot of abandoned houses but it's not the majority and crime is very high in all the north St. Louis neighborhoods.
@@phillhuddleston9445 Typical verbose nonsense from a racist. East St Louis has nothing to do with St Louis. People like you are the reason why St Louis is divided.
Mann it’s crazy because most of these homes have been vacant for years and ain’t feel apart the beautiful style of these homes is one of a kind hope someone comes along and fix em
I agree, and sort of glad we aren't knocking them down too hastily. so that some may survive for better times when the area will become in vogue again. They can't all be saved, but I love the idea of consolidating the bricks. This video already contains buildings the don't exist and others that have been restored. Thanks for watching, cheers.
DJ Oldsoulkid I will, I will!
Problem is if you start working on one it’s stripped, or destroyed, the next day. Sad because so many of these homes are ridiculously SOLID and just need pipes, wires, widows and hvac. PVC & Pex-Pipe has helped reduce the stripping, but windows get broken out 1st night there in.
@@flipnotrab yeah my pops sleeps there 😂 like he park his car in front of the house with his gun until it’s done
@@djoldsoulkid3407 that just sucks he has to do that. There are SO MANY cool buildings & homes around there.
Seriously & deeply breaks my heart to see this kind of video (altho I am proud that someone put it out there) because in every town & city out there, the buildings from 1910 - 1960 are without a doubt the most architecturally beautiful, charismatic, awe inspiring, works of art - that had they been taken care of over the years may have outlived the towns that they were built in, I don't have the money to fix any of them up as they should be but I would honestly be proud to donate my handyman time to fix them back up if anyone else could afford to bring them back to the level that they always should have been.
Well I'd add buildings as early as 1850 in there but yes as plentiful as these buildings seem today they are actually quite finite. They stopped building all-brick cities a long time ago, never to return. I'm at the point where I get a little bummed when they knock down solid-looking mid-century modern banks.
So sad to see these cities in ruins
Indeed, but there are some happier, more encouraging videos on this channel too! TFW. :)
It’s from the growth of the Suburbs and everyone owning a car because the early mass transit (like trolleys and cable cars) were bought by General Motors and destroyed CSL that the cities would have to buy their buses. 😮
This is just one of many cities across this country. We have to change how we do things. This waste of property is sad.
It’s 80 years too late to change how this happened to begin with.
After WWII, when our troops came back home, they had very favorable house loans from the government in thanks for their service and the the mass building of suburbs began.
The suburbs had cleaner air, less noise and everybody had a yard and a garage:
General Motirs bought all the cities’ trolleys & cable cars and tipped them out so that the city had to buy GM buses. More pollution and noise in the city.
The inner city schools suffered because the new suburbs had new schools- so more families moved out of the city to the suburbs.
Commercial developers moved the sport stadiums and the office complexes out to the suburbs, further draining the city.
We know where this story is going.
City Planners will offer incentives to get investors to re-develop the city, which vary greatly.
Hello 👋 for Dozenspeed, I’m just awestruck at the potential in these historical bldgs crying 😿 they want their lives back.Up to codes and zoning,restoration and repairs.Getting the original blueprints,and follow the best you can.Love what 2nd Empire, is, the finds for it, and the kind work put into it is a dream realized.Quite a number of stories I write ✍️ in long hand,center around these periods of time,Thanks for your tour videos!💫😁👏
Thank you for watching my tour videos Tami. There's a couple other decent ones if you haven't found them yet.
Look for
Maeystown
Mudd's Grove
Oak Hill Hardware
St. Augustine
Doggone Dog Museum Gone
Cheers
@@Dozenspeed Thanks for the video & for the info - very much appreciated.
Wow, what beautiful homes! St. Louis sure has some beautiful architecture.
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It is so sad. And I applaud the good people who are still trying to keep a nice home there.
Hi Ellen MC, thanks watching and commenting. I virtually NEVER do this, but your well timed and pleasant comment hit me in the just the right mood and moment, so I'm going to tell you something only about 5 people have a clue about as I write this. In 5 videos from now, I'm going to have what I think is a very special subject. Since your comment leads me to believe you yearn for a sense of optimism, (like I do) it's a story you may very well know already, but it is something I think you will surely like, and for me, it's about the most anticipated release I've made yet. So, thanks again, and I hope you enjoyed this random, uncharacteristic piece of advance information, an odd unsolicited secret I haven't told friends about yet. Just because. ┐(´•_•`)┌
Cheers
So many homeless and so much waste..
Everyone and everything seems disposable..life is incredibly short and out of step with its self..
Exactly
The maxim that real estate value is determined by three things: location location location actually reflects three distinct factors:
1. Is the location close to work, shopping and play?
2. Is the location in a temperate climate and appealing natural environment?
3. Is the location safe and healthy?
These properties are only missing #3 of these qualifiers whether the houses can be restored or are merely lots with a "tear-down."
That is what needs to be figured out and implemented.
Remarkable video!!
Check No to all the above in N. St Louis
This makes me really appreciate the place I live
I live in the Niagara Region in Ontario. Thirty years ago, me the guys use to cross the border into Niagara Falls, NY to drink on weekends. Remember seeing houses like this video. In the area of Ontario Avenue and Main Street. Literally a stone throw from Robert Moses Parkway/US Border Bridge. Today, they are all gone. Literally 10 square blocks of fields, with sidewalks and curbs. When the steel mills left in Buffalo. So did the people. St. Louis reminds of Niagara Falls....thanks for sharing Ryan.
You're welcome Joe, or Ryan? I've heard about that, thanks for sharing your account. I don't know how bad Buffalo/Niagara Fall area is overall, but these buildings in St. Louis represent a relatively small area of the metro of well over a million people. St. Louis City itself once peaked at nearly 900,000 once. I don't mean to imply this is how most of St. Louis looks lol! Cheers
@@Dozenspeed The correct number is now in the 200,000s. But they still have the 28 aldremen they had at 1,000,000. So the politicians are doing well.
Pure history.. most of these buildings are at least 140 - 150 yrs old!
Some of those brick buildings are made with an orange-red brick that is only found in St. Louis cause of the clay that was used and that clay area has now been built over.
So, its highly sought after from the rubble.
Moved from north St Louis in 1971 so it's taken 50 yrs to get to this point.
I'd love to take my camera to back then for a day and see it how it was!
Yes wish I would of been documenting this for 50 yrs. It was the very beginning of this happening. Beautiful little bungalows, flats, sidewalks to ride your bike on. It was a good place to grow up back in the day. So may I ask who you are and your interest in this part of St Louis?
I'm basically a St. Louis native who has recently unleashed their dormant desires to create thanks to inspirations from and on CZcams. My interest in history and nostalgia have significantly increased as I've gotten older, and I love the video medium. To me it is the most gratifying form of telling the past and recording history, and I feel compelled to contribute to humanity's archive as I can while enjoying the life experience from doing it. My interests are diverse, including those ponderous vibes one gets from looking at scenes like this. Other subjects I document are more positive, whatever evokes memories and nostalgia usually, which can spark a variety of feelings. For more insight on this subject "Video 100" in my catalogue will offer more than you ever could hope to bargain for. ;) However, I'd like to invite you to be sure to catch the next video I'm working on at the moment, which is a compilation of random clips from all over St. Louis this past year. Thanks for watching, cheers.
I will be watching for sure. I love this kind of stuff. Fascinated by many things in the St. Louis and surrounding areas. Cheers to you too! 🙂
@@Dozenspeed MO Historical society has plenty of photos
So sad to see the ruins of the city I grew up in.
Yes, but a lot of it is still there for the saving. It may be decades more, but a lot of this area is destined to come back someday. Hopefully we'll keep as much of this history as possible.
Still looks better than Baltimore, MD.
That sounds like that Cleveland tourism promo claiming they are "not Detroit." ;)
I hate seeing my city like, this we have ind of the most beautiful. Architecture
Bad city politics an segregation lead to this disastrous mess its really sad .
I was born and bred in this city. I Would like to buy some of these buildings and revitalized them. I currently live in San Diego, CA. And do not have a lot of disposable income. The cost of living is horrendous.😱However, I have excellent credit. I do remember most of these sites 30 plus years earlier.☑️ I am a 1960’s child.🥰
Come on back and dispose your income here! :p We ain't got the weather but there are lots of new culinary delights to burn bucks on that you won't need for mere shelter! Cheers
@@Dozenspeed Uuuummm. I do feel compelled to go back to my roots, and make a difference to the younger generations. Thank you for sounding like family. The loving family members.
@@bigvalley4987 St. Louis is full of beautiful homes to rehab -- you might not want to go to North St. Louis but you will find something in almost every neighbourhood that will make it worth your while to return to St. Louis.
You have to have cash to buy these homes I suggest getting an unsecured personal loan if you don’t have the cash.
@@marilynmonheaux6356 Compared to California you only need pocket change to buy in St. Louis.
So glad that I left Saint Louis for DENVER So much better here
Denver is an ugly shit hole
@ rapture98, I agreed.
Congrats
Just look at that Church 5 minutes in.... I mean what kind of animals would enjoy trashing and destroying the majesty of such a building? Broken stained glass windows, etc all caused by hoodlums. Such a shame.
A thread through history ... From the older majestic ones to the more recent, more humble ones. It's the story of the decline of St Louis.
As everyone continues to wait for this down-beat second act to finally end, in hope a 3rd act climax and happy ending are yet to come. 😉
I bought one of these in trying to buy the house next door to it too
An optimistic investor, love it! How old are they? I take it your plan is to fix them up? I hope the best for your endeavors. :)
The one I bought was built in 1888. I plan to flip them, wish me luck. I love the buildings in this city and I love the soundtrack you chose to go with it. It’s a tragedy and a shame politics and fear has these gorgeous homes rotting away.
@@marilynmonheaux6356 that’s great. I inherited a house on the west side of St. Louis, in the historic West End just outside of the Central West End. If you don’t mind me asking, how are you financing the renovations? My house, just like these houses were in historically red-lined areas so even though I’m a good borrower, I’m running into brick walls so to speak, when it comes to financing the house because it’s in a “risky” borrowing area. The house sits on a 3,000 sq ft lot and it’s about 2,000 sq ft, 6 bedrooms and one bath, full basement and full attic/3rd floor built between 1895-1897.
@@tylerbhumphries I borrowed against my retirement to rehab it. If that’s non an option I would try peer to peer lending or any other unsecured debt. Avoid HELOC and mortgage companies at all costs. Sorry for the late reply good luck 👍🍀
@@marilynmonheaux6356 thanks
4:54 The churches are the most sick-making: such a betrayal . . .
So, there is no money to help the poor? Of course there is. But, we know it goes into the pockets of the rich. Many of these homes would make nice small apts for the poor. It's so sad and such a sin.
Try again. It is going into the pockets of the 28 aldermen. The same number when the city had 1,000,000 people!
If St. Louis were an east coast city, this neighborhood would've been restored decades ago. Beautiful homes, but I'm really curious as to what once stood on all of those empty lots.
I can see that, the higher costs of living make keeping up older homes a better and more sensible value proposition, where here the economic numbers are harder to margin. We've lost great swaths of our historical buildings sadly, some in this film surely no longer exist. Obviously we keep doing something wrong. 😞 Thank you for watching my video though, I hope it bears some value in documentation, and invite you to look around the rest of my porto-logue here on the 'Tube for other things you might like. Cheers 🙂
It would be real nice to see these houses back to their original beauty - Hopefully a billionaire will be willing to put their money towards the task
Frankly that's likely the sort of thing I'd like to do with a billion dollars! TYFW
Ear to restore those homes you have to have Deep Pockets lots of money that you don't mind losing
They would be great to house homeless! Traditional housing for people...
I think some of the ARE housing the homeless! ;)
@@Dozenspeed They do until they get burned down from warming fires.
lol we had syrian refugees given homes in north st louis wanting to go back because it was safer
true story
Wow..
I can NOT WAIT to start my own business. Restoring, remodeling & salvaging what I can for memorial each.
All section 8 but incarcerated state per property for those with all that sex offense. Never out & about or behind the wheel again.
👣
F in the chat for my neighborhood
Lots of possibilities. Come on people, this is better than Pompeii. Look at that Church, glorious. You want a piece of America, here it is awaiting your creativity. Hurray. Step up to the plate. Call it Little Birmingham.+++&+++&+±+
Suggesting this is easier to fix up than Pompeii is about the most glass half full metaphor I've yet heard! XD Why Little Birmingham? What's the reference? Cheers
I would love to explore that huge church.(the 1st church shown)
Ah yes, St. Augustine. It was quite an explore. I made a video of part of it around here somewhere.... ;)
Is that the one where they put that indoor skate park in?
My neiborhood!
I think I seen these houses before
Sad to see.
Anyone know if there is harassment or vandalism when someone buys and starts to restore one of these homes? I know similar situations in Detroit it can vary widely street by sreet.
I've not heard any stories, but imagine you run that risk with any project anywhere. Certainly the risk of that is higher in the parts shown in this film. I wouldn't try in the middle of the bleakest parts, but rather aim to be on that cutting edge of any gentrificating takeover. There's probably a variance from street to street like Detroit.
Problem with buying those houses in that area and restoring them is it's going to cost you more money to restore them then you would get back out of it it would have to be done as a labor of love and you live in it let's say you put 50,000 in it but the market says it's only worth $30,000 when you're done you're 20,000 in the hole
What streets are the worst with abandoned buildings?? I live in ST Louis County.
If you ask me, I'd say Page and MLK in their city sections.
Just curious if you know the location of the first buildings
Near the corner of Grant and Alice Streets. ;)
@@Dozenspeed thank you
Crazy sad and insane😢😢
Dozenspeed.... Do you know where these people went who once lived in these houses?
I replied to this a couple weeks ago, and YT didn't publish my response. That's twice its done that to me, quite discouraging, just now getting around to re-responding. I can only imagine all the possibilities where all the people might have moved to, but guess the majority ended up in St. Louis County or elsewhere in the metro area. Cheers
Probably move to other cities and states where the jobs are
This is only just now beginning that a video like this. Just so many of different homes that everywhere on 50 states in the country everywhere that some locations that are of many videos CZcamsrs younger ones are teenagers that are recorded at how he looks like a abandoned homes everywhere but go tell them started about it. I know that many homes is abandoned or sometime that is ugly by the outside but it's very nice inside right there that people take just not Discovery. A what a chance I might there is like a well I've got family home
Hello! This film is focusing on the sad houses that need saving. There are many nice houses in these area too. I plan to film some of those for another video collection one day. Thanks for watching. Cheers
Any idea how many decades you have to treat brick homes like sh!t before they look like this?
According to our research measurements, 4-6. Your mileage may vary.
Is that church at 4:58 the old st Augustine
Yes, the St. Augustine from 1896 near Jefferson and Hebert, not the other St. Augustine around Page and Hamilton.
I made a small video of the inside in 2020, and I'm sandbagging other footage I have of the interior for a future video day. TYFW! 🙂
I saw a ghost 👻
Tech boom coming...hope it helps stl💗
So do we. I don't want things to get quite as crazy as silicon valley, but imagine what 6-figure salaries could buy here. For the price of a 4000 sq ft subdivision house in LA or San Francisco, you could buy a 20,000 sq ft 100-year-old school building, restore it into a fortress, and have a 15-minute commute to downtown. I made a sizeable video last year ( czcams.com/video/hco-XdnR96I/video.html ) featuring all the new construction and restoration going on after decades of exodus. St. Louis city population today is less than it was 140 years ago! Thanks for watching, and saying something positive. :)
@@Dozenspeed My friends did that w/St. Liborius church in north side. And yes...I grew up in the East Bay Area so I am familiar with how the Silicon Valley boom helped-and hurt-the area. I moved to AZ when I turned 18 in 2003 because it was way too expensive in the Bay Area and I couldn’t find a job!
I saw that you mentioned that in another comment, and wondered if you were referring to St. Augustine, which I got a chance to film inside. (A video posted of that as well) But I've heard of St. Liborius as well. (We have several beautiful abandoned churches here.) Isn't that the one converted into a skate park? If so, I've seen that has been documented on CZcams already, but I'd still like to get my chance to document it anyway one day. Cheers, thanks for subscribing. :)
The building at 2:52 is renovated now.
@@leonohara7730 You are correct and it looks great. It's encouraging for sure, hopefully there will be many other buildings in this video receiving the same fate. czcams.com/video/hco-XdnR96I/video.html to see this building mid-restoration. Cheers
I Love this video. I love the Buildings. If I had the dough I'd move there in a Heartbeat.
That weird, sad nostalgia and curiosity feeling is why I made this video and other ones like it. With enough money, one could safely live in a historic "near-mansion" around some of these areas, or imagine the pad you could make out of one of these old schools! Thanks for watching and commenting.
DON'T! You will move into the middle of a war zone if you do.
ooooooh! ok!
You don’t really need much money at all to move in this area.
But also, as of recently, I’ve noticed the city putting in more effort in remodeling/rebuilding a lot of abandoned buildings, which means prices could start going up soon.
Sad
The music I used probably didn't help. ;)
Wonder why the decline; 'thought' St. Louis was The City to be............
White flight St. Louis City has a painful past but I believe the best is yet to come.
Lol I take it you've never been to the area?
@@unicornus33 caught me.
@@ndog2005 😉 I only know about it bc I've lived in this area all my life
@@marilynmonheaux6356 Crime went up so people moved to the county and surrounding suburbs leaving far less people and tax revenue in the city.
I wanna know what happened why many people left their homes
The quality of life in the area diminished to the extent people sought out better horizons elsewhere. It took many decades of decline to get this bad, yet there are still lots of good people who stay here and keeping striving to turn it around.
@@Dozenspeed The quality of life diminished because the population of the whole city dropped. When people left the city because manufacturing and other jobs were gone there were no buyers for these homes. The city is underpopulated. People who are looking for music, food, the arts, universities, will find a city that needs them and increasing the population will bring back all that was lost.
Both of these responses are true but missing something very important that people don’t know or don’t want to talk about because it brings of race and St. Louis’ history of racism. St. Louis, like the rest of Missouri fought very hard against integration. When St. Louis was forced to desegregated in the 50s because of federal laws, it fought back by enacting a red-lining systems like a lot of American cities. What became known as red-lining started from maps drawn up of cities where areas were marked in colors such as red, green, yellow or blue. Red meaning unsafe or undesirable for economic or real estate development, green meaning the best choice. Even on the original maps you can see hand written notes that made it clear the colors where just stand-ins for racial groups. Between the mid 50s to 70s racial groups were steered into some areas and away from others. This is what caused White Flight as well as the drop in population in the city. People left and so did a lot of the big factories and generational jobs. People who didn’t want to integrate or didn’t want their kids going to integrated schools or even people who were steered away from “dangerous” area that were filled with middle class Black and Brown people moved to the county. St. Louis Public Schools also didn’t help. They actively fought against promoting programs that would have kept students in place or brought back students from private schools (who were not forced to integrate) or charter schools who were also basically private schools. The highly segregated neighborhoods did well for about 15-20 years before the full impact of red-lining hit. Because the areas were marked as not safe for development, banks didn’t have to lend in those areas. Even now, they can’t really lend in those areas because the property values are so low, it goes against the bank’s policies because it’s considered a risky area to lend. A lot more can be said but I don’t want to make this long comment longer. Just know that once the banks devalued the neighborhood, the good hardworking people couldn’t get the funding they needed to fix up these old homes or start businesses in the neighborhoods. Some of them were sold homes at very high prices with Adjustable Rate Mortgages that would jump higher and higher every year. The people who could afford to move, moved to North County and the cycle continued until red-lining became illegal but the damage was already done.
@@ntakovacj3644first you got to get all the crime out of the area do you have to get jobs back in the area then you have to get a lot of people to start rehabbing and taking care of the property if you don't you're just spending money that you'll never get back
white flight
Wrong.
@@markomara9256 i am right you are wrong i'm from north st louis [ hyde park ] nieghborhood [ white flight ]
@@ragtagarmy8428 I am right, you are not right.
The rest of the county used to also be part of the St. Louis city limits.
Residents voted to break away from the City decades ago because of City corruption and lost heaps of taxpayer income that resulted in much lower services, including less policing.
Thus, white flight was caused by City corruption